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Title: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: JonnyM on Friday, April 26, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Should something finally be done about modded server or are they the only thing keeping the game alive. IMO they are killing the game slowly and painfully.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Friday, April 26, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
wow, after 10 threads like this, and a dead game (atm it looks like it), you will finaly disable mods?

voted for stop tracking modded servers, tho they need to be disabled :P
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Calevey on Friday, April 26, 2013, 13:03:19 PM
Stop tracking.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Alex on Friday, April 26, 2013, 14:37:30 PM
I've been saying that modded servers shouldn't be tracked for a long time now, and each time the thread was locked by the admins. This thread will probably be the same.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Friday, April 26, 2013, 16:06:51 PM
Stop tracking


Similar way as SF forceclass server were handled since years.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Possessed on Friday, April 26, 2013, 16:50:04 PM
banning modded servers is teh same as shooting your own foot, we have discussed about it and the best we can do is get those modded servers untracked. we already have ways to do it (both auto and manually).
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Friday, April 26, 2013, 18:24:15 PM
BOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This vote is not representief for all gamers. just for against players  in ther small world,go play make a clan and don`t interrupt in adder clan s. how has fun whit it .
can t take you all serius enniemore really pathetic
THX from the bottem of my hart . :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Possessed on Friday, April 26, 2013, 20:10:58 PM
da fuk Vanoke lol! no one is going to ban/disallow modded servers, they will just be untarcked, no stats recorded while playing in a "non-default" modded server.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Alex on Friday, April 26, 2013, 20:16:10 PM
banning modded servers is teh same as shooting your own foot, we have discussed about it and the best we can do is get those modded servers untracked. we already have ways to do it (both auto and manually).
Yeah it's obvious that modded servers shouldn't be banned. AA 2.5 needs all the players it can get. But I do feel that they shouldn't be tracked.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Ilmari on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 02:39:40 AM
 :)LOL!  Stop Tracking !!! :rtfm:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 03:45:43 AM
]When do we get a yellow star on our chest !!!!! :down:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 03:51:43 AM
]When do we get a yellow star on our chest !!!!! :down:

Exaggerated.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 04:33:34 AM
Then think good aboud what here happends !!

Exaggerated.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 04:53:41 AM
Then think good aboud what here happends !!

It's about letting modded servers being tracked or not. You'll still be able to play on them if they stop being tracked. The 1st option obviously isn't going to be viable as anyone can host a server and set it up to their likings without the Assist. 
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 05:14:45 AM
good modded server hosters are a blessing for this game. and the players how like it.
Its supit to punish them .
And i see (FEEL)more unwilling talk about modded in this forum. ????
That yellow star is verry close becose  summ guys wanne make A difference.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 06:01:45 AM
Tracking of modded servers is absurd anyways.
The stats should be a comparison, but you can't compare apples and oranges.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: kMx on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 07:44:15 AM
disable tracking , but in my opinion the solution would be to sort a way out of stopping people to load mods into their servers , a update could solve this since many are able to bypass the system with file unblockers
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
Agan!
good modded server hosters are a blessing for this game. and the players how like it.
Its supit to punish them .
And i see (FEEL)more unwilling talk about modded in this forum. ????
That yellow star is verry close becose  summ guys wanne make A difference.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Agan!

-_-'' it's not like people completely avoid the 1st page posts.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
I REALY GET SICK ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION !!
do so - like adults do with the childrens. for sure i will start installing my old games like top gun or dod or....
stupid moves you are doing with that. realy stupid moves.

and i did not read the whole mist at all, for sure not.

btw: you all should start to play german's e-league. there you HAVE TO play on non modded servers. so stop this fukking talking about and go there - we need more players to kill at that tournament.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 13:31:57 PM
I find the Tracking/Not Tracking point rather amusing, but that might be from a perspective of not caring about my stats myself. If we as a community move forward, all mods should be counted as the same, there should not be ANY approved mods.

That brings up an issue with the amount of votes, the ~30 votes there is now is not a valid count, and I think a decision should not be made until % 50 of active accounts has voted.

And since all that play has a BT account, the vote should be made there, not here.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 13:56:55 PM
Just to clairify, the Vote would be on BT, but we here would make the change.
The only way I know of to be able to make a server untracked if running mods is if we(devteam) code that into the server software.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 14:15:55 PM
There's no point in having this vote on BT forums IMHO.There's far less active forum users on there. I visit it daily, but there's not a new post every day (I'm only talking about the AA side of it, but there doesn't seem to be much activity elsewhere either).

Now if you had a link from Assist to the BT thread, that could, of course, be whole different story as they wouldn't have to create an account here in order to vote.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [HT]-d0n-@-KeIIo- on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 15:02:17 PM
stop tracking
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 15:59:31 PM
@[SWISS]Merlin

Quote
and i did not read the whole mist at all, for sure not.
The excitement is mixing up the languages?
 :D



What makes me wonder is why the "pro mod" faction is so upset about if the mod server will be tracked anymore or not.
After all, if you ask them, the first class answer why they mod there server is for "FUN".

So if it's all about fun, why do you care about the stats so much?
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 16:05:29 PM
Do people still care about stats?
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 16:18:14 PM
As for me, sure!
The main purpose of playing this game was and will be the competition.

If no one would care about stats, why have a scoreboard ingame?
Who won how many rounds, OBJ points, kills, deaths... all irrelevant?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 16:51:40 PM
Summ guy s make a lot roe points here
and honor is far far away.

As for me, sure!
The main purpose of playing this game was and will be the competition.

If no one would care about stats, why have a scoreboard ingame?
Who won how many rounds, OBJ points, kills, deaths... all irrelevant?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: wickid on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 19:06:20 PM
should stop tracking all together and all the fr whores would leave this game
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 21:49:11 PM
yeah, cut the player base down from 20 players to 2.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: woopty121 on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 22:28:47 PM
funny how there is 30 somethin votes and only a few ppl on the forums hahaha !!!!! now thats a joke. plain and simple,,, you dont like modded servers,,, dont play there. go play elsewere. quit cryin about it. damn !!!!!
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, April 27, 2013, 22:58:37 PM
This discussion about banning one way to play this game is nonsense imo.
I personally prefer non modded servers, but the fact is that modded servers
are always at capacity, although non modded servers are up and running.
That means obviously that a lot of gamers prefer to play modded, am i wrong ?

In banning modded, do you really hope to "reeducate" those players by leaving
them no choice but to play on standard tracked servers ? Maybe so.
Considering that AA is for many of us addictive like smoking, modded freaks
would come back to play on standard servers if they have no choice, because
they need to play :D

I think the real question that should have been asked here a long time ago is :

"Do you naturally prefer playing on a standard or on a modded server ?"

According to the answer, we would then know how to handle the problem,
untrack or leave tracked that said.

My 2cents.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 01:55:57 AM
God, banning them is out of question... untracking is what we should discuss about... UNtracking.

we could make modded servers untracked for a few weeks to see what happens before a full implementation, if this is really going to be done.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: woopty121 on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 02:07:11 AM
I say leave it be and play what you want. period !!!!!!
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 02:19:05 AM
hey ppl, there's no honor in blasting(203's / RPg's etc) enemies at spawn (as in Pipeline), why should it give you honor points? -.-
is 30/0 with 203's really showing that you have the skills you pretend to display in your profile?

lots of ppl with high FR's aren't good as they pretend to be seen;
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 03:04:44 AM
Quote
is 30/0 with 203's really showing that you have the skills you pretend to display in your profile?

lots of ppl with high FR's aren't good as they pretend to be seen;
That is exactly what I'm talking about!
 :up:


If you force Special Forces weapons on a map which was build for infantry you kill all the requirements you would face normally.


Where is the final stroke:
If someone adds an "Drop the Nuke" mod?

The option to floor the whole enemy team by pressing one red button sounds interesting to me...
 :down:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 03:32:59 AM
hey ppl, there's no honor in blasting(203's / RPg's etc) enemies at spawn (as in Pipeline), why should it give you honor points? -.-
is 30/0 with 203's really showing that you have the skills you pretend to display in your profile?

lots of ppl with high FR's aren't good as they pretend to be seen;
+1
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 03:57:55 AM
@Vanoke

More exorbitant comparisons.


"I am tormented as the Jews were!"

"I am black and oppressed!"



What comes next...
"Mods for Feminism"?

Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 04:51:10 AM
Its difficult to talk if they don t listen en understand, ore only wanne hear themselves.

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg35.imageshack.us%2Fimg35%2F636%2Fstruisvogel2.jpg&hash=9a0186c6cc15340eb2e1df454de014fc) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/struisvogel2.jpg/)

 

@Vanoke

More exorbitant comparisons.


"I am tormented as the Jews were!"

"I am black and oppressed!"



What comes next...
"Mods for Feminism"?
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 05:19:18 AM
I see your point, nevertheless "liking" cant be taught.
It is subjective.

If you look at the poll, it already shows the tendency.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 05:24:45 AM
SICK
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 06:00:11 AM
this is my last entry in here for ever. this is realy bullshit.
bye

btw: hope I did write all correct, but I am sure, some idiots will find something about
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 07:11:28 AM
Don't you think you guys take this discussion to personal?
To sulk and get into a huff...
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: JonnyM on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 07:55:07 AM
this is a democratic vote, peoples opinion count for shit. only the votes matter.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 08:31:26 AM
aa1 to aa2.8.5 was designed without mods, originally, but you cant see the output of mods, all normal players left the game coz there is nowhere to play anymore, you still can play mods but not tracked, dont be stat victim..
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: rxcapitan on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 09:16:06 AM
In 285 the moded servers werent tracked at first.and stilll they were full all the time.and before mods admin were simply  foreclassing.i think that these ppl who play there dont care about tracker theyplay for fun.if u want pl who play normal weap back open some competition.when wl and esl were up tere were always some full normal weap servers up..and voting with 100 votes shuldnt be relevant...think...majority of players play moded...so if they all vote they ll alwways win..but they dont know about this vote...so just let it as it is
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [TBB]Captain[HUN] on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 10:04:15 AM
Ban all the modded servers. all of them are bulshit and some of them unfair.this is one of the army games and not a shit modded high jumped speed changed fucked game ! paly with the normal weapons if you wanna play with manny weapons and mods go and play COD
 :banned: :rtfm: :makemyday:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 10:55:32 AM
@rxcapitan

There were no mods in 2.5 / 2.6 /2.7 / 2.8 or any other version cause that was prohibited by the EULA of americas army.
The only thing allowed was Force Class.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: SilenceIKillU on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 10:56:07 AM
Well im all for modded servers its a choice guys. If you dont like them dont play on them simple as that. Ive been playing since the org. 2.5 and loved the mods in 2.5 and 2.6. bottom line is ....its your choice to play or not. Dont be like Obama and try to dictate our choices.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 11:01:15 AM
Sorry, I'm too drunkk to read, but could someone  tell me to do so when tomorrow?
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [TBB]Captain[HUN] on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 11:26:27 AM
Well im all for modded servers its a choice guys. If you dont like them dont play on them simple as that. Ive been playing since the org. 2.5 and loved the mods in 2.5 and 2.6. bottom line is ....its your choice to play or not. Dont be like Obama and try to dictate our choices.

yes you have right but the most servers are modded i guess there are more modded as normal.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 11:39:55 AM
I don't think that most servers are modded.
As I just had a look at the currently played only 4 out of 13 are running any kind of mod.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 12:18:09 PM
this is a democratic vote, peoples opinion count for shit. only the votes matter.

To me a vote actually represents an opinion. Still, opionions do matter. The way of expressing it does matter aswell.

P.s. i've added a note to the 1st poll option so it could be a bit more clear.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 14:23:02 PM
I miss my mandela how dit trow it out .!!!!????????????
[/b][/size][/color] :banned:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fscaled%2Flarge%2F690%2Fnelsonmandela2.jpg&hash=c14f5e272f5884c8eac86350abab1ea1) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/nelsonmandela2.jpg/)
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 15:20:24 PM
I miss my mandela how dit trow it out .!!!!????????????
[/b][/size][/color] :banned:


-____________-''''''''' how on earth does Mandela and apartheid discrimination possibly link to potentially stop tracking modded servers...there's no need to use symbols to express that you feel like being discriminated, discriminating players is not the point of the poll that has been proposed.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Choogelaar on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 15:41:32 PM
in the regular AA2 versions the moment there was a forceclass by admins the score diddnt count in the aaotracker and why should it be tracked now  to give people the oppurtunity to get higher rank and honor in the game ,,, just play the game how it came out instead of all the bs that been put on the servers afterwards , back in the day if you wanted a gun with a scope you had to join a SF map  if you wanted high jumping  you had to go bridge crossing and jump from the fukin BRIDGE   

AA2 is almost gone because of all the modderated shit that has been put on there cause some players like to , we had to host our own server and without honor if you wanted any of the crap nowadays,,
+ when you cheat or hack dont give them change after change after change just BAN them and keep the game clean
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Mixk on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 15:49:01 PM


In banning modded, do you really hope to "reeducate" those players by leaving
them no choice but to play on standard tracked servers ? Maybe so.
Considering that AA is for many of us addictive like smoking, modded freaks
would come back to play on standard servers if they have no choice, because
they need to play :D



This is kind of what they were thinking when we didn't all go play their buggy AA3. We will just quit supporting AA2 and drop the servers and then  the players wouldn't have a choice but to play AA3 if they wanted to play AA at all. Well we all see how that went over like a hot fart in church.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Choogelaar on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 15:58:37 PM
even if we would get money for playing AA3 i wouldnt even play that fcked up version anyway i never saw anyone in war getting a hs and a medic was able to heal him  wtf hey im a sniper i just gavethat guy a headshot hold on a have to secure him so anyone can see where i was possitioned  WTF  all they say is" we are making it more realistic"   well great job the only people i dont see jump is someone in a wheelchair  so AA3 Fck OFF  please
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Gizzzmo345 on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 16:13:42 PM
Keep on mod servers, everyone is free to play on it or not, its only a option of the geme.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 16:15:14 PM
It was a reaction for a guy (`s) that needed it. but how dit trow it out !!!!!!    :down: :makemyday:

By the way is it possible that players can vote 2 or 3 or more times on this stupit idea  !!?? :rtfm: :down:

To me a vote actually represents an opinion. Still, opionions do matter. The way of expressing it does matter aswell.

P.s. i've added a note to the 1st poll option so it could be a bit more clear.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Mixk on Sunday, April 28, 2013, 20:15:27 PM

By the way is it possible that players can vote 2 or 3 or more times on this stupit idea  !!?? :rtfm: :down:

Anything is possible if someone wants it bad enough.  :shock: :shock: But I would imagine your vote is a one time only.  :up:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Monday, April 29, 2013, 08:50:35 AM
I don't think modded servers should be banned, but I do think that you have an unfair advantage on modded maps towards the regular once.
To my mind these disreputable earned points ain't worth to be tracked.

If you like to play it cause it is fun... Here you are!


@Choogelaar

Quote
(...)if you wanted high jumping  you had to go bridge crossing and jump from the fukin BRIDGE
LMAO
The best comment on this topic ever!
 :D
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Monday, April 29, 2013, 13:03:06 PM
Way is the poll close i had several guy s how wanne vote for keep mod tracking !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Monday, April 29, 2013, 13:20:27 PM
You call 71% to 28% a close one?

Now I really understood why you need that scope upon your rifle...
 :D

*SCNR*
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: HellFire on Monday, April 29, 2013, 13:34:23 PM
You call 71% to 28% a close one?

Now I really understood why you need that scope upon your rifle...
 :D

 :up:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Mixk on Monday, April 29, 2013, 16:56:25 PM
You call 71% to 28% a close one?

Now I really understood why you need that scope upon your rifle...
 :D

*SCNR*
I am no genius but I can see he was saying why is the poll closed and not that it was close. :idea:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Koden on Monday, April 29, 2013, 17:12:50 PM
I am no genius but I can see he was saying why is the poll closed and not that it was close. :idea:

It's not closed, Jonny started it with no time limit, and we're leaving it run.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: rxcapitan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
its not relevant unless atleast 1000 ppl vote...and thats not going to happen.so admins just decide what do u think is best for this game.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 07:14:29 AM
Game will just keep going as it is, so please just stop posting Mandelas crap and stuff. Jonny isn't part of the project atm and as so none should assume this as official decision, it was just a freak-in pool. Guys just grow up a little please...

There might be some modifications in a future but you all will be warned about them before that really happen. And my bet goes that, almost everyone will be glad with what might happen ;)
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 10:18:54 AM
Still related with this, as some are still making movies on their heads...
So called pro players come here blaming modded servers because aren't real, aren't part of the game, other servers are empty.. Yes it's true. But is that the only reason?
Normal/regular servers nowadays are played by old players, that have been whoring those maps for such a long time, they are used to go on a server and pwning everyone, that there are no noobs out there to do it, only those that already know the map. So they do crap stats, people camp, none is rushing, the thrill of the game as gone for those. They are assuming that if we, Assist, stop tracking modded servers, the new players will have no other chance to start going to those servers/maps.

WRONG!!!

New players will have no fun playing this game, they will just be owned every round till they just unnistall the game. Our best hope is to let them know the game playing with a scope and stuff and some of those eventually will want more, learn other maps, join other servers, and so, that's how the game will grow...

Who are the so called Pr'o/s that will really come back to the game if we just stop modded servers? 4, 5? So we will do something that will take down around 80 players just to keep or gain back 5 old players?
Guys be serious... This is suppose to be a fun game, where people can relax, not something that makes you want to just kill yourself like i have seen on some posts by persons like Vanoke. Are seriously someone taking the game that real?

We have interesting news for you in a near future, until then, please keep playing and having fun, that's why the game was brought back, not to keep recruiting USA soldiers...
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
new players come and go, we were core players, anyway the game is dead as never, so have fun with "new players" that i doubt..
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 15:27:08 PM
@BiG_SerGiO

Quote
Normal/regular servers nowadays are played by old players, that have been whoring those maps for such a long time, they are used to go on a server and pwning everyone, that there are no noobs out there to do it, only those that already know the map.
(...)
Quote
New players will have no fun playing this game, they will just be owned every round till they just unnistall the game.

If this conclusion would be right this game would had been dead 5-8 years ago.
What you describe happened to everyone of us!

As I started playing this game, there were a lot of people who already played it before.
It's not like the so called "pro players" joined the first time with 10 honor and kill everybody in a row.
NO! They, we, I got lambasted over and over and over again.

But we didn't resign, we tried to stay alive and learn from our mistakes.

You don't start as the super magic hero in anything you do, that is not how life works.
You start as a lamer and get skilled by the time.


If someone quit for this reason, he/she has some more serious issues than dying in a video game.
Thats for sure!
(I bet everyone of us had been taught by his parents to never give up that quick long time before he even knew what a video game is)


BTW:
Why should someone have no other chance but to go to a none modded server if the modded once are not tracked anymore?



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Our best hope is to let them know the game playing with a scope and stuff and some of those eventually will want more, learn other maps, join other servers, and so, that's how the game will grow...
Twisted world.
There is a reason why you start with mental math in school and not with a calculator.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 15:49:11 PM
It's different from comparing what happen when you had thousands of players each day and a recent game with nowadays where you have a 10 years old game and only few players.
But hey, prove me wrong, if i'm doing such a bad job i will glad give me spot to someone else...
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 16:26:32 PM
Oh come on, we have enough soreheads in here.
Who said you are doing a bad job... ?

Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 16:41:12 PM
I can sleep now THX!

We  can grow whit mods and no mod servers  is a like my good m8 SilenceIKillU say its a Choice.
                                           (too many flavors that are delicious.)
         (To less players how are in game for now how knows we are just 1 year and 4 months online)   
 

I play this game in my clan and have fun whit the clan in the past and in the future

We try to give a group insite Assist  a good time,
you see that a lot players comming back, everytime that is saying that we as a clan do well.
We respect the players and we try to make the right choise

We are A section of Assist (MODS server) but we have the same feeling to this game like all players here.
Fun / Being A part of/ Yes competitsion / Rob yes for alot guy`s Points/ To muts time ad home so Assist safe us.

I will do the same reaction,when  i think they make A wrong decision for game and the players in it, I hope in the right proportions.

Someone say in forum to  me has this guy a normal live after Assist, i can ensure you YES i have enough familie friends, party s ,hollyday`s. ,work.  but if you run a clan and a server you have to puth time in it and sometimes to muts like now.

I hope the rest will be soon back so we can go further.
best regards
from just a guy with feeling

 
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: zoxee on Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 21:28:55 PM
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"We try to gif" "dowing well" "same fieling" "Summbuddie" "summtimes" "whit fielings"

mod your english skillz ffs
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
I cheance all !
I will make a topic special for my enlisch were all guy s can puth my misstacks for enlisch.LOL ! :up: thx for the help HooooooaH.


mod your english skillz ffs
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
Rob please ! think befor you talk. Assist is gowing well everyting is working ! the admin group can`t make all happy.
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg208.imageshack.us%2Fimg208%2F5416%2F25vanoketears.jpg&hash=6cd7ee637de74686665d3db5ac1bfffa) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/25vanoketears.jpg/)

 
 


Oh come on, we have enough soreheads in here.
Who said you are doing a bad job... ?
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 13:21:19 PM
I doubt you understood what I said at the excerpt you are referring  to.
I can't imagine your contextless post otherwise.
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think befor you talk
Well, this would improve the gibberish you call "English" as well.
 :D


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the admin group can`t make all happy.
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheesebuerger.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Fkonfus%2Fa060.gif&hash=7bcb6ba3bc8576f3e77d334d434b6100) (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilie.php)
Wait, let me remember what you said as you suspected the admins may consider to not track modded servers anymore.
Wasn't there something with the jews and racism?
Pffff.....I guess there is nothing more to say.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 14:00:18 PM
No nothing more to say .  close this topic thx !
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: CheeseyTron on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 17:28:09 PM
No nothing more to say

Thank God...as nothing you type makes sense anyways... :down:
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 19:38:58 PM
rumors say, few english teachers suicided while this thread lasted
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Alex on Wednesday, May 01, 2013, 21:57:16 PM
rumors say, few english teachers suicided while this thread lasted
How can you insult people's English with such a grammatically incorrect sentence? It seems a bit hypocritical.

You need a capital letter for Rumors. There is no need for the comma after "say". "English" needs to be capitalized. "Suicided" isn't even a word. Lastly, you need a period.


On topic, I feel that there is no point in not tracking modded servers anymore.  Those that think players will stop playing on modded servers because it doesn't count towards honor and stats are fooling themselves. The majority of players wouldn't even notice. The only reason this should have been done was to protect the stat system, but it's already been so long that it doesn't even matter anymore.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 01:45:33 AM
rumors say, few english teachers suicided while this thread lasted
How can you insult people's English with such a grammatically incorrect sentence? It seems a bit hypocritical.

You need a capital letter for Rumors. There is no need for the comma after "say". "English" needs to be capitalized. "Suicided" isn't even a word. Lastly, you need a period.
Plus, "few" in this context means "not many", but what he meant to say was "some" and he should have used "a few".
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 02:09:23 AM
what a total dork.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: krIz+ on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 04:14:42 AM
damn it was a joke, sure my english not perfect, but i speak few more :P, just correct me :)
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: RyanVDA on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 13:46:02 PM
there is no need to even have a tracker. this game is dead, stats do not matter. who gives a shit how much of a fr you have. most of the people just reconnect anyways so they can have a good fr.

modded or not, the whole tracker thing is useless.

anyone that sees someone with a 20 honor with a 3 fr automatically assumes they are cheating. half of them cant comprehend that the honor does not matter either.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: RyanVDA on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 13:48:51 PM


AA2 is almost gone because of all the modderated shit that has been put on there cause some players like to , we had to host our own server and without honor if you wanted any of the crap nowadays,,
+ when you cheat or hack dont give them change after change after change just BAN them and keep the game clean

aa is almost gone because the army said fuck it, not because of modded servers lol
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Yahoo on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 13:53:32 PM
there is no need to even have a tracker. this game is dead, stats do not matter. who gives a shit how much of a fr you have. most of the people just reconnect anyways so they can have a good fr.

modded or not, the whole tracker thing is useless.

anyone that sees someone with a 20 honor with a 3 fr automatically assumes they are cheating. half of them cant comprehend that the honor does not matter either.

I remember saying that last year, why should we discuss the end of mod servers when we could just get rid of tracker...
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Gizzzmo345 on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 15:25:25 PM
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Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Crusader on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 16:05:50 PM
It depends on what your definition of a server mod is. In my opinion installing any kind of software that changes the game, as it was originally designed by the game developers, in any way is a server mod.

Some other poeple define a servermod only as a servermod when it changes the gameplay.

In my definition everyone that is currenlty having a server that runs the 25assist has a servermod.  which would make this vote pointless because the tracking system becomes useless if no one is tracked, or when they all are banned.

Another points that i would like to make is that no matter how hard you try to ban a servermod. they will always find a way to bypass it.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 16:44:11 PM
I remember saying that last year, why should we discuss the end of mod servers when we could just get rid of tracker...
I believe this was also discussed earlier somewhere on these forums. If I remember correctly, it was said that they still need tracker to track honor at least, if not anything else. Making they're own system for this would, of course, be possible, but would require quite a lot of coding.

Now you might argue, that honor isn't important either and you'd be right to some extent, but honor is still a sense of accomplishment and high honor still shows you've been around for quite some time. All in all I'm pretty sure you'd have far more people complaining about losing their honor "stats" then there would over the kills stats.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 16:46:15 PM
Its now talk about MODs next we talk about tweaks  what next!!!!
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: wickid on Thursday, May 02, 2013, 20:22:37 PM
yeah, cut the player base down from 20 players to 2.

rather play with the 2 then the other frag rate little noobs out there
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: mamerize on Friday, May 10, 2013, 22:31:23 PM
I dont see this poll represent all players. For now only 65 votes. We have more than a 500 active players.
Best Score when playing a game is satisfaction, no score = no fun.
People will leaving, no more people = no donation. AA2.5 assist  = DEAD!.

This game now is a AA community, not developer.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: langy on Friday, May 10, 2013, 22:42:44 PM
We need to be growing community not killing it even more with too many rules, Make stronger guidelines for servers and maybe first focus on a better anti cheat before doing anything.

Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Saturday, May 11, 2013, 03:54:44 AM
Eventually the AAO25 project was founded to keep a great tactical game alive.
If we wanted to play a fun-shooter we just as well could have moved to one of the hundreds out there.


As it is now, this game is a shadow of his former self....
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: JonnyM on Saturday, May 11, 2013, 04:14:38 AM
Eventually the AAO25 project was founded to keep a great tactical game alive.
If we wanted to play a fun-shooter we just as well could have moved to one of the hundreds out there.


As it is now, this game is a shadow of his former self....

This is my point! but no one ever seems to get it.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, May 11, 2013, 14:38:08 PM
mods will have to wait till ELiZ come back from his 2nd vacation lol, as he had focus mainly in 2.8.5 stuff, he did not looked into this yet.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 15:19:03 PM
Looks like the Mod-discussion is raised to a new level.
I just got kicked and permanent-banned (via admin console) from the PUF/Kauto modded border after playing one round.

Seems to be some guys are unable to handle criticism.
 :D
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 15:24:18 PM
You don t like us , you don t wanne have mod points ,you kiss ass to make friends for your point .

And yes i don t like you anymore . you understand till never anymore rob



Looks like the Mod-discussion is raised to a new level.
I just got kicked and permanent-banned (via admin console) from the PUF/Kauto modded border after playing one round.

Seems to be some guys are unable to handle criticism.
 :D
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 15:30:46 PM
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you understand till never enniemore rob
You are right, I don't know if I will understand that "enniemore"...


Damn, I'm not even sure how to pronounce e-n-n-i-e-m-o-r-e...
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheesebuerger.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Ffroehlich%2Fc040.gif&hash=2ddca873c625425aa35bcb2ec3f89ad5) (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilie.php)
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 15:32:59 PM
Vanoke sounds English words out to type them. Much like Possessed does. Remember, it's not their first language.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 15:44:23 PM
Well, as far as I'm concerned he will have to handle this critique.
As he said, he don't like me anymore.
Nothing to lose on my side anyway.  ;)


BTW:
English isn't my native language as well and I know it is far from being good, but there is a difference between making efforts and just copy/paste text to and from a translation tool.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: CheeseyTron on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 18:11:19 PM
Vanoke sounds English words out to type them. Much like Possessed does. Remember, it's not their first language.

So that would mean....Hoked on fonix werked fer me??
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: insidiae on Sunday, May 12, 2013, 18:33:26 PM
Modding is just for those who lack.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, May 13, 2013, 08:12:39 AM
You are right, I don't know if I will understand that "enniemore"...


Damn, I'm not even sure how to pronounce e-n-n-i-e-m-o-r-e...
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheesebuerger.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Ffroehlich%2Fc040.gif&hash=2ddca873c625425aa35bcb2ec3f89ad5) (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilie.php)

you must be a teacher, i am sure about that, right?
and it looks to me like i am a bit more intelligent then you, because i understand almost everything from Vanoke.
but you can learn it, yes you can that. just give yourself a try :D :D
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Rob_LD on Monday, May 13, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
I guess you missed the punchline of vanoke's post which make me laugh so hard.
Actually it was not the misspelling but the fact that he told me "I will never understand" in such an awful English which made it indeed hard to comprehend.


See the brilliance of this context?
 :D


And no, I'm not a teacher.
Title: Re: POLL, Server Mods
Post by: Vanoke on Monday, May 13, 2013, 11:27:12 AM
Merlin   :up:  PSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssTTT  its oke !! 


you must be a teacher, i am sure about that, right?
and it looks to me like i am a bit more intelligent then you, because i understand almost everything from Vanoke.
but you can learn it, yes you can that. just give yourself a try :D :D