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Assist Support / Re: Need my accounts activated please
« on: Monday, November 10, 2014, 12:43:00 PM »
BT usernames will do. Either that or the BTID number which can be found in your browsers URL, such as:

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http://battletracker.com/aao/THISNUMBERISYOUR_BTID

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News / Re: Welcome new/old users!
« on: Monday, November 10, 2014, 09:17:55 AM »
A warm welcome to every one of the new and old players of this game.

See you in-game hopefully!

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The Lounge / Re: Post A Picture Of You!!
« on: Monday, November 10, 2014, 09:11:55 AM »
A more recent image of myself:


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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Poll Suggestion - [285] maps
« on: Saturday, November 08, 2014, 21:52:18 PM »
I support Lord-of-War's motion to having all 2.8.5 maps available be tracked.

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News / Re: Shoutbox Usage & Moderation.
« on: Saturday, November 08, 2014, 21:46:25 PM »
Thread locked.

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News / Re: Shoutbox Usage & Moderation.
« on: Friday, November 07, 2014, 09:26:00 AM »
    Very good read and info... Good Job Dan!

Thanks. All we want is a peaceful environment.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Tuesday, November 04, 2014, 08:53:09 AM »
Nothing. Except that you were the man teaching other the rules, and playing big admin. People don't like that. You don't have support of the crowd behing you, so don't behave like a leader.

There is nothing to be taught here. There's no one to teach to either. I'm not playing into the 'big admin' act --if I were, I'd be banning people for their inconvenience, which I haven't. I haven't banned a single person in all the time I've been a moderator/administrator.

You and ACC keep on insisting I 'came out of nowhere' whereas truth of the matter is I have been around for longer than any of you has. I started helping Jhonny, Spanky, Assist and mAAp well before any of you showed up. I'm not trying to submerge into comparative reasoning here. If anything, I'm simply refuting (or attempting to) your insistent necessity to act as though I'm playing like a big-admin all of the sudden.

It was me who posted the announcement, yes. But it wasn't just because I felt like doing so. All of the admins/devs concurred that it needed be done. The SB was being abused too much for its own good and for all its worth, drama or no-drama, it's gone quieter and friendlier than before so in that sense our job is done.

At the end of the day, that is all I care.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 19:17:40 PM »
If you are so well behaving Assist Admins, then why did you ban that TheJohnny guy? He didn't seem to break any rule forum, didn't he?

Are you afraid of truth?


He isn't banned, not sure what you're on about. If he were, it'd show up in the logs.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 19:13:47 PM »
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You wrote an essay about how to behave on SB. In particular, not to spam it. Oh the irony... You are in no position to judge others in this matter, because (IMO) you post a lot of what could be considered spam.

I don't mind the spamming. Maybe you misread? The subject at hand is not spam but disrespect and general hostile behaviour towards and between other members of this community.

I'm starting to think none of that matters to you though as you seem to have registered solely to partake in this thread without having the slightest interest for what we are trying to achieve here.

I also find it rewarding that you seem so interested in dissing any one contribution/post/word I've put into this and other subjects pertaining to Assist. Do you hold a grudge? Are you an old familiar face? I really see no reason you'd be so insistent unless you're ACC's friend or have an unresolved quarrel with me.

Right as of now, if you as much as go back to both the OP and the subsequent posts, you'll find out that both my intention as well as that of the rest of the Devs/Admins are to make this a community where hostility and harassment is kept out. We had to remember people that is our aim and that we're willing to go ways to keep it so. What is wrong with that?

If you had a family and suddenly saw a killer walk right into your house, would you let him kill your wife and kids out of respect for freedom of expression, speech, action, or any other? I don't think you would, naturally.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 16:22:15 PM »
We got consent from more than just the developers. Spanky (Nate) has mentioned this more than once, too. Their stance is simple: So long as we keep their values and do not in any way or form commercialise Assist, we are in the green-zone.

Your post, unlike ACC's, is well-written and more importantly, well justified. I am slightly disappointed that you'd resume what I wrote to 'almost pure spam' but for each its own.

Your feedback was constructive so it is well welcomed. This thread turned into a-rather-obvious-flame-throttle but the intent still remains; to remind people our aim is to nurture a friendly community and not the other way around.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 15:34:07 PM »
Bendawich is always so cool. Damn I wanna be just like him : )

Thanks for the input, though.

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Drama & Spam / Re: SB Drama
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 15:06:46 PM »
Challenge accepted. I will parkour into some constructive debate with you since it seems that is the only fuel you seem to be running on right now. Why? Because I'm in a good mood -- I just quit my job.

This will be fun. Get your popcorns ready fellas.



1. You are running assist illegally, the project is illegal and you can hate me for saying that, I have been in RM board for a while to know that.

You can throw the word illegal as many times as you would like and that still won't make Assist illegal. If this case were to go to court, we'd be at most charged on any conventional manners by the unauthorised distribution of America's Army 2.5...which would become void as soon as previous Developers and the respective authorised owner/stature expressed their consent for such actions.

Illegal no more.



2. You implemented features to the game illegally, you have made your ''own'' rules illegally since it's not your game. Where do I stop?

No features have been implemented to the game that weren't already in the AA2 franchise (the SAI, for instance, was ripped off from 2.8.5 so technically it already belonged to the game). Any other features you may take notice of have not been implemented directly into AA as we simply do not have access to the source code of the game.

Furthermore, no rules have been created in regards to the usage of the game itself -- all the rules we have created and currently enforce are directly connected to Assist and its subsequent derivatives such as the forum, shoutbox and the likes. We own all of these. Simple as that.



3. You are planning to ''force'' use to ban us from shoutboox. You have made bunch of rules on your ''own''.

We are not forcing anything onto you. We do not force you to be active on our shoutbox, we do not force you to disrespect others and we do not force you to complain once you've failed to adhere to the ToS to which you agreed to upon registration.

Also, force (as a means and not per-concept) is only applicable either in RL or through reverse psychology --none of which we currently possess the tools, desire, liberty or interest in practising.



4. If you saying freedom of expression, opinion or speech doesn't exist on internet so that means rules and any other ''legit'' stuff doesn't exist since it's internet.

Freedom of expression, opinion or speech (they're all different kinds and entail different concepts within, henceforth rendering your argument fallacious from the get-go) all depends on social contexts, norms, conceptions and ultimately an opposing regime/utopia.

The internet sadly offers none of the aforementioned nor are its various conceptualisations consensual at best. It is therefore impractical to demand any such civilised right unless any one structure has been created to reflect the aforementioned values and contextualising items...which Assist has and does to this day.



5.  6.  (I can put more bullet points how my freedom of speech is protected, how I can criticise the system of form and so on, don't start throwing your fucking rules that are not legit.

Some clarification is in order:
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The most basic component of freedom of expression is the right of freedom of speech. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without interference or constraint by the government. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech. A less stringent test is applied for content-neutral legislation. The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence.

Your bullet points where coherent, your argumentative skills are stable and very pro-keen (perhaps too much?!) on the defence of your truth --one you evidently believe to be final-- you just missed the point and its veracity entirely though.



7. Every country has it's own rules, it's own protection of speech, think about where you live and have a read about it.

Assist is hosted in America. Assist was created in America. Assist abides by the American Law. America's Army is a trademark from America. No matter where you look, left or right, America will always pop up --it's almost scary! We euros need to retaliate! Let's unite comrades!-- therefore it is only natural we operate by the American Law.



8. If someone can't handle what I say, they can call a layer and I would still win.

Let me be honest -- you speak too high of yourself. In fact, your facades are becoming increasingly contrasting. First you were no-one and badly even wrote English, then you became a RM (you were quite helpful back then, I have to add. I'd know, I was the one that added you onto the boards and hand-picked you!), then you went shenanigans on the game and community and now you act like the all-knowing all-mighty hotshot. It's confusing to say the least.

I want you to understand this; I desire no malice towards you. In fact, the only thing I desire is that you may live a happy and prosperous life. Being humble often helps achieving a middle-term between the two and getting ready to take that big leap. Why is it that you can't seem to come to terms with this?!



9. You throwing your ''strong basis, I will throw them back, like I told you, I know what I am legit to do or not and I know what you can do or not since In talk to all (admin team that runs this game).

Off we go again:
legit - legitimate
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adjective
1. according to law; lawful:
2. in accordance with established rules, principles, or standards.
4. in accordance with the laws of reasoning; logically inferable; logical:

In accordance to law, your recent attitude towards this community could be treated/considered harassment. Legit = Negative.

In accordance to established rules, principles, standards (we established ours), you're a far-cry from anything legit-related.

In accordance with the laws of reasoning; logically inferable -- I haven't seen a coherent proof-guided argumentation from you. Just a bunch of stuff picked out of nowhere with no real co-relation bundled together to form this impenetrable opinion of yours.



10. Your own rules and TOS does not stand above the law.

Precisely. And you don't stand above our ToS, simple as that. If you don't like our ToS, don't use Assist. You can still play America's Army manually without the interference of a third-party such as ourselves. Otherwise, yes, you need to follow our ToS especially given our ToS replicates the American Law.



11. Internet is virtual life and should not be taken seriously, this is not physical attack by any means nor I integrate with anyone here.

Not being physical does not mean it isn't personal. Internet isn't virtual-life either. If anything it is the virtual expression of very true and real life personalities and emotions alike. That the internet shouldn't be taken seriously is yet another drawn-from-god-knows-where conclusion just there to strengthen your un-strenghtable set of arguments.



Think about what you are doing ''legit'' and what you are doing now to prevent us from saying whatever we want.

I have. We have. We've discussed endlessly about it and even looked for help. Maybe it is you who needs to think the extension of your self-proclaimed legitimateness. To conclude, we're not preventing you to say what you want. We're preventing you from saying stuff that might get you to violate our ToS and therefore American Law. We're being your friends here -- it is only you who don't seem to understand this.





...And that's that! Phew, that took some time, eh? If I may, a little advice; It may be wise to not misjudge/pre-judge others by what you've seen, figured to know or conclude to be certain of.


A wise man once said:
"Trust nothing you hear and trust only half of what you see."


Respectfully,
/Dialects

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News / Re: Shoutbox Usage & Moderation.
« on: Monday, November 03, 2014, 04:43:29 AM »
Glad you enjoyed it Vanoke!

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Support / Re: Shared IP because of NAT
« on: Sunday, November 02, 2014, 23:49:11 PM »
ELiZ beat me to it, damn it.

I was about to post saying it had been activated!

Well, happy frags.

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News / Shoutbox Usage & Moderation.
« on: Sunday, November 02, 2014, 23:28:44 PM »
As of lately, the Shoutbox has been seeing an overwhelming increase in disrespect, hostility and generic spam-like behaviour. We have decided to remain partially silent on this matter for quite some time now but it has come to a point where a fair warning along with some brief reminders are very much due.

I'll do this in a FAQ-style:



Why was the Shoutbox created for?

When we first introduced the Shoutbox, it was meant for the community only. We later on decided to add it to Assist so all our member base could benefit from it. Our intent in creating and integrating the Shoutbox into Assist was to allow the community to come together with ease; new and veteran players alike. It is an important tool to keep the community alive and in good spirits -- emphasise.



What are the do's and don'ts?
For the most part common sense seems to answer most of these. For the sake of clarity, however:

Do's:
- You can joke around.
- You can say 'noobz' and such other childish/playful words.
- You can express yourself. In freedom.
- You can share how drunk you are, how high you are.
- You can even throw a 'shit' or 'fuck' every now and then. Every now and then.
- Ya'know?! You can pretty much do anything so long as you don't do any of the things I'll list below.

Don'ts:
- You can not disrespect other players.
- You can not be offensive towards others.
- You can not harass others in any way or form.
- You can not act like you're AA's hero. You aren't.



Will I get banned if I push it too far?

Yes you will. I might not even be the one to ban you. It is important you all understand the Administrators all have a common ground for things like this. There are things we discord about though they're mostly kept private, in which case they won't be target to moderation until we've come to a fair agreement. Shoutbox, its usage and the general feel/environment we'd like for Assist is one of those things we're all pretty certain about. We'll ban to preserve a friendly environment, yes.



Oh, oh...but what about my freedom of speech?!
Your freedom of speech is there. We have not robbed you from it nor would we be able to even if we wanted so. Additionally, if you look up for the definition of freedom of speech itself, you'll understand we're far from being against it or even at the slightest keen to censor it. Here's why:

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Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas using one's body and property to anyone who is willing to receive them.

...we're not willing to receive your 'Fuck you' or any of its kind. It is the choice we made and we'll keep it that way. Plus, you agreed to this upon registration so in both theoretical and pragmatical terms, you're the one doing wrong, not us:

Terms Of Agreement, Line 1.
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You agree, through your use of this forum and its variations, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law.



Wait, but I didn't do anything wrong!

Well then this warning isn't meant for you : ) This is simply a reminder to all those who have acted against our ToS as well as ignored the several warnings we've been issuing on a daily basis. Since all of the previously mentioned have been ignored we're being forced to take note of the seriousness of this and act accordingly.



Who's this Dialects guy? He's a new Administrator and already thinks he can ban people?!

A few things you should know:
- Date Registered: Thursday, December 03, 2009, 22:35:43 PM
- I'm not new. This is not the first-time I'm an Administrator.
- I'm actually the most liberal out of the bunch. Go figure. You're just getting unto the wrong side of me.
- When in doubt, look at my post count. It'll tell you I'm active.



I hope that's clarified what the correct usage of the Shoutbox should be. We're not ban-happy admins and have absolutely no desire nor enjoy being forced into acting this way. So, don't make us. Is that too much too ask?

Surely, if we all do our part right and keep the abusive/hostile talk to ourselves or otherwise express it privately through the use of PMs, I'm sure we'll all get along pretty nicely. The ban-logs will thank us all too.


Respectfully,
Dialects | Dan


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