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« on: Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 13:06:59 PM »
I think I'm done with this thread now, I'll lurk if others want to continue it but this post has to wrap up everything I think about the topic. Vegeta I agree with a lot of what you just said, but nonetheless I still think climate change is occurring rapidly and needs global response. I don't care if it helps the bankers, let them have their fun capitalist game I don't give a shit really. I want the Earth and humanity to survive through the future that climate models predict. If that means bankers get richer for a while, so be it. Lemme let ya in on a little secret though: Climate change response is in many ways about sustainable actions at all scales, individual to corporate and national. When I FIRST introduced climate change to this thread, I said that a proper response would solve countless social problems and it seemed Koden didn't believe me. I'll get to this in a minute, but capitalism as it plays out now is simply not sustainable or logical and everyone knows it (ESPECIALLY the bankers, why would they want people to believe in climate change?)
A proper response to climate change means a strengthening of community ties and community sustainability, to minimize energy consumption for such things as transportation and mass production. It means that we must reconsider, globally, urban and rural zones and their interactions. I am not a techno-optimist (I like cyberpunk but don't really fear a dystopian future cuz for billions of people this is already the dystopian future) so I don't think our factory farms and GMOs can feed the world, I don't think robocops can patrol the world for carbon footprints, and I don't think we can escape to live on a distant exoplanet in a galaxy far away when the Earth dies. That's a lot of "if"s to me, so I'd rather build a windmill, cover cities with solar cells, farm locally and sustainably, build up ties and connections to my neighbors, and CRUSH CAPITALIST PIGS, COMRADE (sarcasm but capitalism and state socialism are both not the answers, and I don't think there's any amount of philosophy or political theory that can find us a solution so everyone needs to change themselves and that'll grow outward). I think the hardest question humanity, and all of us as individuals, face today is the proper way to act and reconciling moral questions with environmental issues. But then again that's kinda my field of study so I guess that WOULD be the hardest question to me.
Goodbye, Drama and Spam section.
It was fun. I trolled a lot, I posted seriously a lot, and maybe it wasn't clear which was which. But I'm done posting now, and this post was serious except for the capitalist pigs part.