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Assist => News => Topic started by: ELiZ on Thursday, September 11, 2014, 15:14:16 PM
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We have made a big step in Anti-Cheat lately; detecting the use of mouse macros in America's Army to gain an unfair advantage.
For the last week we have collected data on who is using mouse macros. Even if you have used them and are not on the list yet, know that we have detected it and might just be waiting for more information to issue a ban.
All players that have been added to the banlist have been detected not just by the new detection but also by additional proof, such as a macro program running on your PC.
To make it perfectly clear; using any method, be it AutoHotKey, commander.exe, macro programs on your computer or macros built into your mouse will get you banned. It is an unfair advantage and there is no place for that in Assist or America's Army.
These are the accounts added to the Banlist today:
.Ba^La.Marrequinho
..Ba^La..Azulao^
..Ba^La..Cadu_171
..Ba^La..Calango
..Ba^La..Marreco._
..Ba^La..Petel
..Ba^La..Samuel.
.uC-Estev4m'
.uC-.;F;r;a;g;_
.uC-KaMi!
.uC-kokada;!
.uC-mane'-Chikinho
-mentirosO'
-RicskoK-[Hun's)
-xtina
=IGC=vanted
aVenue.funxii
aVenue.zOx+
X-Treme
ZoTya-[Hun's)
We do not tolerate gaining an advantage by means of secondary programs. Because of the unfair stats gain on these accounts, we have decided to permanently ban them. If the banned players would like to continue to play, they will have to create a new account, then make a topic in the ban appeals section asking the account to be activated. These accounts will be on the watchlist to make sure no macros are used in the future. There is no legitimate reason to use these scripts or programs. They only give you an advantage over other players and, as such, is a bannable offense.
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well done !
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Huge step indeed, and nessesary. This has been, and probably will continue being a problem, good idea to not completley ban people but having them apply again for a new account, keeping them on watchlist.
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Much respect to ELiZ for coming up with the detection method and investing his time in keeping this game clean. Let this be a warning for other tweakers/cheaters.
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Well I can continue playing then :)) gj, this shit will help normal players :)
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Much respect to ELiZ for coming up with the detection method and investing his time in keeping this game clean. Let this be a warning for other tweakers/cheaters.
Yup, very well done. Macros were a big problem and finally there is a solution for it.
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Wow never thought I would see this
great fucking work eliz
since I don't see his name on ur list I will be a man and apogize to ht-kore for accusing him to be a macro user . ..
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Also a. question since I dont see zibi name here either guess he wasn't a macro user either as alot of people stated ?????
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Also a. question since I dont see zibi name here either guess he wasn't a macro user either as alot of people stated ?????
I don't believe he played in the last week.
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Ahhh gotcha thx
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Oh one from IGC was using it too, surprised :))
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I don't believe he played in the last week.
having seen zibi's user.ini I can promise you that he used a double action keybind. i should know, i fucking made the one he was using like 5 years ago.
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good job :D
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Much respect to ELiZ for coming up with the detection method and investing his time in keeping this game clean. Let this be a warning for other tweakers/cheaters.
Cheaters? As well? This mouse macro and son and not cheater totally different :D!
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After much playing time and many hours lost will end my participation in this game that way, more .... Do what is an hour to solve another do this! Instead of trying to raise the game are looking for reasons to stop at once! Ate because the macro and very old in this game where almost everyone used nor that reason they led ban. More respect as such the decision that took all admins!
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The question is why the fuck you still playing for points man??? It is the old game and should be played in the fun way not for frag...who cares about stats and honour...
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Using ignorance as an excuse you only prove one thing.. your ignorance.
Come back in a week.
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Thx eliz gj ! Hope they all come back to play agan.
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The excuse "everybody else does it" and "it's been in AA a long time" is not valid. Do you really feel right using crap like this to gain an advantage? If so, GTFO.
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I will be making a $100.00 donation within a week on a job well done, it's not much for all the work you have done eliz but it's something to show my appreciation on what you've done to keep this game as clean as possible
thank you again
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I'd just like to comment about all the 'ban appealers' who are saying they never knew it was 'unfair' or that 'everyone' uses it.
Clearly, not everyone uses it, simply because not everyone got banned, about 95% of the people who play, never got a macro detection, so if all your 'friends' use it, doesn't mean everyone uses it and doesn't mean it's not an advantage.
If you didn't know gaining an advantage would not be allowed, I feel kind of sad for you. Why should you get a warning while any other cheater (and also AHK users in the past) got none? Are you that *special*?
Ignorantia juris non excusat
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is much unjust use the macro, for example I do not have much chance against the guy who uses the macro, I play wireless mouse, much advantage to use the macro.
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Much respect to ELiZ for coming up with the detection method and investing his time in keeping this game clean. Let this be a warning for other tweakers/cheaters.
:sign_x2:
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Well done Eliz, good catch there.
Urban Assault just lost 2 real heroes. RIP funxii and his dog http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/693469/aVenue.funxii/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/693469/aVenue.funxii/)
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Some players are having the question , macro' s are never dilivert whit software that belong to the hardware. Is it special extern software that you must downlode from a cheat ore hack site ?????
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Well there is mouse driver software that some mice come with that will let you create macros. However, the keyword here is create. You need to actually create one (or, you can probably download some somewhere).
Plus, there are a few mice that have double or triple click buttons on them, which is still kind of weird, but wont help as much as a macro would.
So all in all, you will not get a macro by accident.
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I think it unfair, pay an absurd amount on a gamer mouse and we can not use it many FPS games are allowed, sad to know that a "failed" game is going these things without "WARNING" my computer is not very current, my equipment are not good, ai who has a good computer, there does not enter the disadvantage huh ahaha, we have to laugh, miss the FPS games without murmuring where players struggled to be better than the other!
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sad to know that a "failed" game is going these things without "WARNING"
1. the game isn't failed
2. you can still play the game after 1 week so it is kind of a warning ...
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Just to finish understanding this:
I have Razor DeathAdder. It's comes with its specific software where you can control a bunch of things included macros.
I don't have macros configured.
Will this be detected as "macroed" just for having razor software controller, or not?
Thanks in advance.
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sure not, you have to create a macro like "while scrolling doing firebutton and adjust the level of impact point"
something like this, you know what i mean i guess, right?
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Just to finish understanding this:
I have Razor DeathAdder. It's comes with its specific software where you can control a bunch of things included macros.
I don't have macros configured.
Will this be detected as "macroed" just for having razor software controller, or not?
Thanks in advance.
What program is that?
In the next version of 25Asisst there will be a lock, so that 25Assist will not start if certain applications is running.
The detection we use now for macros is not based of what applications you have running.
We do however use running programs as secondary proof when our primary detections find something wrong.
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these "gaming mouses" you guys talk about have a on and off switch, if not a physical one, then within the mouse software to activate double, or tripleclick. So you might not have a macro per say, but your mouse does.
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Just to finish understanding this:
I have Razor DeathAdder. It's comes with its specific software where you can control a bunch of things included macros.
I don't have macros configured.
Will this be detected as "macroed" just for having razor software controller, or not?
Thanks in advance.
if not mistaken that mouse also controls recoil??? Like the blood v7 mouse so I'm guessing using that mouse will get players ban .or just for using mouse for there macro compatibles?????
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Just to finish understanding this:
I have Razor DeathAdder. It's comes with its specific software where you can control a bunch of things included macros.
I don't have macros configured.
Will this be detected as "macroed" just for having razor software controller, or not?
Thanks in advance.
No, as long as you do not create a macro to gain an advantage, you are safe to go. We detect the macro usage, and some of the programs.
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No, as long as you do not create a macro to gain an advantage, you are safe to go. We detect the macro usage, and some of the programs.
I'll clarify this a bit more; It doesn't matter if you feel like you've gained an advantage or not, ANY macro usage in the game will be detected and you will receive a ban. The detection has nothing to do with which program you use. Don't try to rename commander.exe, it won't help. We don't care if you use it in other games (though, that's still shitty on your part), just don't bring it to Assist.
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That's true, That use of macro, greatly benefits those who use it as weapon like m16 is automatic ... and our m16 who does not use it, out of 3 in 3 shots while the wearer goes out automatically, impossible to compete with someone who uses ...
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Just to clarify this whole mouse software/macro presets argument;
When you buy a mouse you're essentially buying a 'naked' piece of hardware. Most of the advanced mouses companies offer their own respective applications/software so that you can further enhance the usability and adaptability of the mouse to your liking --from changing mouse sensitivity on both X and Y angles, pressing sensibility, mouse acceleration...to having 5 or so buttons available to your needs.
Once you change these settings, they'll become an integral part of how your mouse works thus rendering them definitive changes. So far as I am aware the aforementioned is allowed and will not get you banned per say. I emphasise: Permanent mouse tweaks such as the one above should be tolerable.
In essence; having expensive mouses that come with a uber-software will not get you banned. Tweaking your mouse settings, saving them, opening AA and playing won't get you banned either. However, setting up macro actions, two-step tweak settings, key bindings and the likes will. It's as simple as that. No matter how hard you look at it, the only way you'll get yourself a ban is if you try too hard to tweak your mouse to adapt the lack of skill you may suffer from -- if you're smart enough to do that then you're smart enough to know that you're not being banned because of your mouse but because of your conscious actions.
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Couldn't have said it better Dan.
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Using ignorance as an excuse you only prove one thing.. your ignorance.
Come back in a week.
Ignorance? I? So I'm a little disappointed by this ban have taken that to me was unfair eliz, without even having been warned or anything! Ate because as far as I know no macro and xiter! or e? Because after so many years of AA so now decide to do this? without at least to consider the fact ate because everyone use configuration and a mouse and not do miracles! See much deny cries coming here saying this and that! If you look straight my longest playing time maps are in SF and not with M16 where it needs macro!
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Ignorance? I? So I'm a little disappointed by this ban have taken that to me was unfair eliz, without even having been warned or anything! Ate because as far as I know no macro and xiter! or e? Because after so many years of AA so now decide to do this? without at least to consider the fact ate because everyone use configuration and a mouse and not do miracles! See much deny cries coming here saying this and that! If you look straight my longest playing time maps are in SF and not with M16 where it needs macro!
get over it. Macros not allowed no longer case closed......
glad eliz worked so hard on this
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That's true, That use of macro, greatly benefits those who use it as weapon like m16 is automatic ... and our m16 who does not use it, out of 3 in 3 shots while the wearer goes out automatically, impossible to compete with someone who uses ...
And when playing with 2 accounts on the same server at different times, not elp you? Logico yes lucas! How do you or did not care and yet no one here has done absolutely nothing about it, and yes that anti-game!
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Ignorance? I? So I'm a little disappointed by this ban have taken that to me was unfair eliz, without even having been warned or anything! Ate because as far as I know no macro and xiter! or e? Because after so many years of AA so now decide to do this? without at least to consider the fact ate because everyone use configuration and a mouse and not do miracles! See much deny cries coming here saying this and that! If you look straight my longest playing time maps are in SF and not with M16 where it needs macro!
Macros are not and NEVER WERE allowed. It's just that now, thanks to ELiZ, we've come to a point where we can DETECT them.
As for not getting a warning warning:
Ignorantia juris non excusat
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I my opnion, the macro is not allowed, ok? correct? ok, but, in the first time, I think that, the admins of AA could have warned the players and after this, in second time, if the players don`t stop using this, then banned all that using this, but, the admin decided this, I love this game, but is a bankrupt game, you can say to me that no and etc, I ask to you, how many players play AA everyday? 50? 40? Have the many fps game that everyday beat records of players with 1500 players or above this, and admins from AA banned my members cuz 1 or 2 members used macro?! Spare me.. But, YOU will remembers when this game hasn`t more players. And this is next to happen. Alright, if you give a second chance to some uC members, I never user cheater or macro, I understood the view of point by admin, but in my opnion was very severe. Think about, and give a second chance to everybody, You gave a second chance to guys that used cheater 6 months ago... what is macro thereabouts? I don`t want press you, but if you don`t give a second chance, we will go to insurgency game...
Thank You everybody.
by BRANCO!
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I'd like to point out that you've had the opportunity to read what is and what isn't allowed by agreeing to the TOS when you first downloaded Assist and with every update that has occurred. That was your warning.
In case you agreed to it without reading;
The Assist Developers ("Devs") consider cheating through the use of "unauthorized third party programs" a violation of this TOS agreement. An "unauhthorized third party program" is defined, but not limited to, any alteration or add-on that:
(i) enables or facilitates cheating of any type;
(ii) allows users to modify or "hack" the AA graphical user interface, environment, and/or experience in any
way not expressly allowed by the Assist Devs in the TOS agreement;
The Licensee is considered violating the Terms of Service if you, the Licensee:
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(viii) Use or distribute "auto" software programs, "macro" software programs or other "cheat utility"
software program or applications.
Any violation of this License will result in a termination followed by a permanent ban without notice to the Licensee.
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Yes, I understood this, but 6 months ago, you admins from AA, gave a second chance to cheaters that exceed all rules, then now, by macro you banned the players, I can`t understood this, 2 months ago, the players(ba..lucas) that put the second account on game to see other players playing in other team, YOU applied the punishment of 1 week without play, and now by macro you banned forever this account of my members... Sincerely, I`m disappointed with admins.... In my opnion you admin before this ocassion, you can give a second change to my members... think about this, I will not tolerate this atitude of my members in the clan, could you think about? please?
Thank you.
by BRANCO!
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I my opnion, the macro is not allowed, ok? correct? ok, but, in the first time, I think that, the admins of AA could have warned the players and after this, in second time, if the players don`t stop using this, then banned all that using this, but, the admin decided this, I love this game, but is a bankrupt game, you can say to me that no and etc, I ask to you, how many players play AA everyday? 50? 40? Have the many fps game that everyday beat records of players with 1500 players or above this, and admins from AA banned my members cuz 1 or 2 members used macro?! Spare me.. But, YOU will remembers when this game hasn`t more players. And this is next to happen. Alright, if you give a second chance to some uC members, I never user cheater or macro, I understood the view of point by admin, but in my opnion was very severe. Think about, and give a second chance to everybody, You gave a second chance to guys that used cheater 6 months ago... what is macro thereabouts? I don`t want press you, but if you don`t give a second chance, we will go to insurgency game...
Thank You everybody.
by BRANCO!
You ask for second chance = You are given a second chance, come back after 1 week.
You ask second chance on the current account = No that doesn't make sense at all, because nobody knows how long you have used macro for which obviously has doubled your stats in which I am about to call you a (frag whore) that cares about his stats. Let's look back, cheaters never had a chance to comeback on their accounts, everyone that was banned on any case, whatever it was cheating, tweaking and so on had to start with fresh start so that doesn't makes sense to make macro users so special from others.
You want warning? What warning you talking about? Like spanky stated there is TOS that you should read. Cheaters and other kind of brake rulers that were banned never had a warning, lets look back, it was something like this, Eliz updated the anti cheat, made first post announcing the cheater list....so its the same situation, at least cheaters and others didn't cry about it, deal with it because it won't help you any further.
Your excuses don't make any sense, don't think you are so special from others who were banned. I would take that trash out of your mouth and I would not waste any time discussing dead thread about your pathetic excuses. Nobody had warnings in the past so don't complain and start your lame complainant being banned.
P.S I still can't believe people so desperate for stats, jesus, its an old ass game and you achieve basically nothing, play for fun with your friends...
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You ask for second chance = You are given a second chance, come back after 1 week.
You ask second chance on the current account = No that doesn't make sense at all, because nobody knows how long you have used macro for which obviously has doubled your stats in which I am about to call you a (frag whore) that cares about his stats. Let's look back, cheaters never had a chance to comeback on their accounts, everyone that was banned on any problem, whatever it was cheating, tweaking and so on had to start with fresh start so that doesn't makes sense to make macro users so special from others.
Guys, if this is applied for one, must be applied for everyone.. You talked about up stats using macro, but.. Up stats using 2 acounts ? It's not the case now, i known, but if serves for one, must be for everybody.
And Guys, 99,99% of the players didnt read the Terms of the game.. You all known this.. I think that one week banned is sufficient. And this isn't hack, that makes you see through the walls, weapon no recoil, those things that make the player a God. I respect admin decisions, but like another cases, one week was good.. And if the guy when returns, be catching using macro, you can ban indeterminately..
Thanks in advance,
Jesso
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Yes, I understood this, but 6 months ago, you admins from AA, gave a second chance to cheaters that exceed all rules
It was more like 2.5 years ago, when Assist was created. We ignored established banlists by anti-cheat groups and gave everybody the opportunity to start fresh. Our first hardware ban was in February of 2012 and since then, the banlist has never been emptied.
Guys, if this is applied for one, must be applied for everyone.. You talked about up stats using macro, but.. Up stats using 2 acounts ? It's not the case now, i known, but if serves for one, must be for everybody.
I'd love to catch all players using multiple accounts for stat padding. Problem is, we all have things to do in life, varying obligations. We can't watch servers 24/7. If you see someone abusing statistics, please, report them with evidence.
99,99% of the players didnt read the Terms of the game.
Not an excuse. Our TOS is pretty short and easy to read.
I think that one week banned is sufficient.
I'm glad we agree. We're just also eliminating the points/stats, gained from cheating, from the game.
And this isn't hack, that makes you see through the walls, weapon no recoil, those things that make the player a God.
If it doesn't give you any advantage, why do you do it?
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Just to clarify, because Barddal doesn't seem to understand this:
All the people who were banned are welcome to make a new account after a week of being banned and are then welcome to keep playing.
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Guys, if this is applied for one, must be applied for everyone.. You talked about up stats using macro, but.. Up stats using 2 acounts ? It's not the case now, i known, but if serves for one, must be for everybody.
And Guys, 99,99% of the players didnt read the Terms of the game.. You all known this.. I think that one week banned is sufficient. And this isn't hack, that makes you see through the walls, weapon no recoil, those things that make the player a God. I respect admin decisions, but like another cases, one week was good.. And if the guy when returns, be catching using macro, you can ban indeterminately..
Thanks in advance,
Jesso
You asked why we didn't warn, then we show we it is already in the TOS, and you excuse is that you didn't read, it, but you DID accept it. How would you want us to warn you then?
There are 3 ways you could've known it:
1. Reading the TOS which you AGREED to oblige to.
2. Seeing that people already got banned by autohotkey and commander.exe, just because you used an undetected program doing the same doesn't mean it's allowed
3. Common sense, you use external software to gain an advantage.
Yes, a wallhack is more severe, you are right, but that's why we allow you to come back after a week, we don't allow that for a wallhack, it's all perfectly in proportion. You decided to try getting better stats by using a macro, so those stats are faked, and you need to start with a new account again. It's very simple, and should be common sense.
Please tell me where I am wrong.
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Good job Eliz. We now need to tackle the excessive use of F12 on servers.
In my opinion this is equivalent if not worse than the use of macros.
My tip is to display message to all players "AdminX is watching PlayerX now!".
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very goood job ELIZ !!!!!
now give me SUPPORT MOFO!
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Good job Eliz. We now need to tackle the excessive use of F12 on servers.
In my opinion this is equivalent if not worse than the use of macros.
My tip is to display message to all players "AdminX is watching PlayerX now!".
sorry to bust your little bubble but assist can not control what server owners do on there servers they pay for
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sorry to bust your little bubble but assist can not control what server owners do on there servers they pay for
you are brain little bubble
ELIZ can do it if wanting he is best assist CODER
but he not doing SUPPORT and is sad
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you are brain little bubble
ELIZ can do it if wanting he is best assist CODER
but he not doing SUPPORT and is sad
the day assist controls what servers owners do far as booting and banning whom they want is the day people will move on to a different game, so very unlikely
if I pay for my servers I will not let no one tell me how to run it
so go hang yourself pit, what getting bored of aapg already lol
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the day assist controls what servers owners do far as booting and banning whom they want is the day people will move on to a different game, so very unlikely
if I pay for my servers I will not let no one tell me how to run it
so go hang yourself pit, what getting bored of aapg already lol
as said your brain is little bubble......
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I miss when the company PunkBuster defined what was the benefit program and not players that define a rule that can not be better, just know that crying! this game managed to destroy you, care about macro, and not even worry about cheaters and game bug - America's army went bankrupt!
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I miss when the company PunkBuster defined what was the benefit program and not players that define a rule that can not be better, just know that crying! this game managed to destroy you, care about macro, and not even worry about cheaters and game bug - America's army went bankrupt!
We are worrying about cheaters, which is why macros are now banned. Using macros is cheating.
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I did not come here to cry but because they did not give a warning before banning ? much as people purchase Gamer Mouse because of it.
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I did not come here to cry but because they did not give a warning before banning ? much as people purchase Gamer Mouse because of it.
A warning was not given because it's pretty obvious that it's cheating. You're using a 3rd party program to do something not possible in the game. It's cheating.
I'd also like to point out that this sort of is a warning in a way. You're not permanently banned from the game, so you can still play. It's just a 1 week ban and an account ban. Feel free to make a new account and keep playing. We even disabled training for you not too long ago!
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Estevam agree with you, people buy because of that mouse game it's really expensive here in Brazil, it was better to give the warning, if you continue with the macro, oh yes can banish, simple Killaman
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Did you guys even read the previous posts? We explained why you could've known it was illegal, and why you still get a second chance and how.
I do not see why we need to enter another discussion here, if the only excuse for getting unbanned is that the mouse is expensive.
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On the one hand it's great news, great job :up: tbh those guys who used macro didn't affect me much but anyways... any kind of cheating should be banned pernamently. No second chances, strait strong hand, hard policy, not like with this antiarmycheat boy who has rolled you my dear Admins. ;)
On the other hand I wish something like that could have been done in the competition days of this game...Pity.
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not like with this antiarmycheat boy who has rolled you my dear Admins. ;)
What you trying to say there? Do you have to bring me in every situation that includes cheating lol :)
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What you trying to say there? Do you have to bring me in every situation that includes cheating lol :)
you got banned for cheating, but got welcomed back under a diffrent name.
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you got banned for cheating, but got welcomed back under a diffrent name.
I get more attention than any on of you in this case lol :)) Yhe and thanks to admins :) I don't hack anymore so I keep my promise to everyone not to do it so anymore :)
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I get more attention than any on of you in this case lol :)) Yhe and thanks to admins :) I don't hack anymore so I keep my promise to everyone not to do it so anymore :)
You do so because you sit on your high chair pointing down to others who did the exact shit you did, you're on the side of this game with the people who cheated, always will be. Me and the ones who never cheated, are on the other side. And you also get attention because of the fact that you are utterly retarded and you talk alot of shit, with your backpack i'd shut up.
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You do so because you sit on your high chair pointing down to others who did the exact shit you did, you're on the side of this game with the people who cheated, always will be. Me and the ones who never cheated, are on the other side. And you also get attention because of the fact that you are utterly retarded and you talk alot of shit, with your backpack i'd shut up.
ARES please, the more you talk the more attention I get OP :)
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ARES please, the more you talk the more attention I get OP :)
WOLF please. Stop talking shit, and stop sucking admin penis on servers.
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WOLF please. Stop talking shit, and stop sucking admin penis on servers.
Its not shit, its common sense. I don't suck admins penises on servers, too expensive to do that.
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Perhaps you guys are rolling slightly off-topic? Keep the thread clean and tidy...as much as possible anyway --- please.
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You do so because you sit on your high chair pointing down to others who did the exact shit you did, you're on the side of this game with the people who cheated, always will be. Me and the ones who never cheated, are on the other side. And you also get attention because of the fact that you are utterly retarded and you talk alot of shit, with your backpack i'd shut up.
This post is hilariously ironic. Especially considering the thread we're in.
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This post is hilariously ironic. Especially considering the thread we're in.
explain plx
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Use your brain Ares. The admins discuss things together.
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The mouse macros weren't the biggest problem, the user.ini that players edited to take more shots and be more difficult to die were! That's what you have to fix (user.ini)! That ban was a total disrespect for those that use macros, because AA was never against macros, you can figure out it was permitted, and now you suddenly forbid macro use and ban many of the few remaining players from the AA.
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AA was never against macros, you can figure out it was permitted, and now you suddenly forbid macro use and ban many of the few remaining players from the AA.
BocaNegra, feel free to post the link where America's Army developers said macros are ok. Until you do, quit using that as an excuse. Is the game really worth keeping alive if it's full of cheaters?
The mouse macros weren't the biggest problem, the user.ini that players edited to take more shots and be more difficult to die were! That's what you have to fix (user.ini)!
I doubt you can edit the user.ini to shoot more often and even if you could, it will be detected. I also highly doubt you can make yourself more difficult to die in the user.ini. Feel free to prove me wrong with some proof.
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The mouse macros weren't the biggest problem, the user.ini that players edited to take more shots and be more difficult to die were! That's what you have to fix (user.ini)! That ban was a total disrespect for those that use macros, because AA was never against macros, you can figure out it was permitted, and now you suddenly forbid macro use and ban many of the few remaining players from the AA.
Do you know what you are talking about?
There is NO single way to edit something in the user.ini to die faster, and it's still a horrible excuse.
I still haven't found any valid excuse to use a macro other than to gain an advantage over others by means of a 3d-party program, instead of saying: "but it was always allowed", try to get on to the point.
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Use your brain Ares. The admins discuss things together.
haha well in that case :D
Although the diffrence is signigicant.
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Do you know what you are talking about?
There is NO single way to edit something in the user.ini to die faster, and it's still a horrible excuse.
I guess that brightness=0 might help :D
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I guess that brightness=0 might help :D
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :weed:
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I guess that brightness=0 might help :D
lol :D
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LOL. :sign_bitch:
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Great job Eliz!
bye bye funxxi... i knew it, you sad little prick!
who is laughing now whaaahaaaaahaaaa :cool:
All the fakers got their account banned :style:
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The mouse macros weren't the biggest problem, the user.ini that players edited to take more shots and be more difficult to die were! That's what you have to fix (user.ini)! That ban was a total disrespect for those that use macros, because AA was never against macros, you can figure out it was permitted, and now you suddenly forbid macro use and ban many of the few remaining players from the AA.
BocaNegra, feel free to post the link where America's Army developers said macros are ok. Until you do, quit using that as an excuse. Is the game really worth keeping alive if it's full of cheaters?
I doubt you can edit the user.ini to shoot more often and even if you could, it will be detected. I also highly doubt you can make yourself more difficult to die in the user.ini. Feel free to prove me wrong with some proof.
A few comments...
1) The original developers were neither for nor against macros. They were publically silent on the issue.
2) Macros do not equal to cheating, per se, but rather obtaining an unfair advantage, this is against the ethics of the game itself. Sort like bringing a gun to a knife fight... you can do it and nothing stops you from doing it, but is it really fair?
3) The ini file does indeed have some options that allow an unfair advantage... This is why CVAR checks were introduced in PB, so I don't get why Boca would even this this is a problem, because it is not.
4) The biggest problem in all games is the real-time injection of object code into the stack. Properly designed, even the operating system has no idea what it going on.
I could comment on "hackers" versus script kiddies and the like. In my opinion the latter are a scourge on gaming (as only an idiot would pay for "skilz"), the former I have respect for (as an engineer who has reverse engineered, i.e. hacked, both hardware and software in a former life). BTW: I use the term "hacker" in the traditional sense, not the new found post-gaming era definition... Hacking used to be an honored tradition, but alas, it is now viewed in a poor light due to the negative connotations with the art...
Bottomline, If someone wanted to get an undetected advantage, it is simplier than anyone realizes. I won't offer any guidance, but lateral thinking is all that it required (and a soldering gun). If someone wants to cheat badly enough, nothing will stop them. But ask yourself, is winning in a PC game so important that you are willing to cheat to get there? Seems like a substitute for self-esteem... maybe you should see a psychiatrist.
OIC!
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BocaNegra, feel free to post the link where America's Army developers said macros are ok. Until you do, quit using that as an excuse. Is the game really worth keeping alive if it's full of cheaters?
I doubt you can edit the user.ini to shoot more often and even if you could, it will be detected. I also highly doubt you can make yourself more difficult to die in the user.ini. Feel free to prove me wrong with some proof.
A few comments...
1) The original developers were neither for nor against macros. They were publically silent on the issue.
2) Macros do not equal to cheating, per se, but rather obtaining an unfair advantage, this is against the ethics of the game itself. Sort like bringing a gun to a knife fight... you can do it and nothing stops you from doing it, but is it really fair?
3) The ini file does indeed have some options that allow an unfair advantage... This is why CVAR checks were introduced in PB, so I don't get why Boca would even this this is a problem, because it is not.
4) The biggest problem in all games is the real-time injection of object code into the stack. Properly designed, even the operating system has no idea what it going on.
I could comment on "hackers" versus script kiddies and the like. In my opinion the latter are a scourge on gaming (as only an idiot would pay for "skilz"), the former I have respect for (as an engineer who has reverse engineered, i.e. hacked, both hardware and software in a former life). BTW: I use the term "hacker" in the traditional sense, not the new found post-gaming era definition... Hacking used to be an honored tradition, but alas, it is now viewed in a poor light due to the negative connotations with the art...
Bottomline, If someone wanted to get an undetected advantage, it is simplier than anyone realizes. I won't offer any guidance, but lateral thinking is all that it required (and a soldering gun). If someone wants to cheat badly enough, nothing will stop them. But ask yourself, is winning in a PC game so important that you are willing to cheat to get there? Seems like a substitute for self-esteem... maybe you should see a psychiatrist.
OIC!
I like your post. Thank you.
Where's the "Like" button when you need one? :D
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LOL. :sign_bitch:
You have to laugh at yourself, must be a weak player who can not play!
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You have to laugh at yourself, must be a weak player who can not play!
Come at me bro.
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BocaNegra, feel free to post the link where America's Army developers said macros are ok. Until you do, quit using that as an excuse. Is the game really worth keeping alive if it's full of cheaters?
I doubt you can edit the user.ini to shoot more often and even if you could, it will be detected. I also highly doubt you can make yourself more difficult to die in the user.ini. Feel free to prove me wrong with some proof.
A few comments...
1) The original developers were neither for nor against macros. They were publically silent on the issue.
2) Macros do not equal to cheating, per se, but rather obtaining an unfair advantage, this is against the ethics of the game itself. Sort like bringing a gun to a knife fight... you can do it and nothing stops you from doing it, but is it really fair?
3) The ini file does indeed have some options that allow an unfair advantage... This is why CVAR checks were introduced in PB, so I don't get why Boca would even this this is a problem, because it is not.
4) The biggest problem in all games is the real-time injection of object code into the stack. Properly designed, even the operating system has no idea what it going on.
I could comment on "hackers" versus script kiddies and the like. In my opinion the latter are a scourge on gaming (as only an idiot would pay for "skilz"), the former I have respect for (as an engineer who has reverse engineered, i.e. hacked, both hardware and software in a former life). BTW: I use the term "hacker" in the traditional sense, not the new found post-gaming era definition... Hacking used to be an honored tradition, but alas, it is now viewed in a poor light due to the negative connotations with the art...
Bottomline, If someone wanted to get an undetected advantage, it is simplier than anyone realizes. I won't offer any guidance, but lateral thinking is all that it required (and a soldering gun). If someone wants to cheat badly enough, nothing will stop them. But ask yourself, is winning in a PC game so important that you are willing to cheat to get there? Seems like a substitute for self-esteem... maybe you should see a psychiatrist.
OIC!
Well said.
Real hackers, who don't hack to feel better in a game, but to test vulnerabilities and seeing what's possible, I respect them. And I respect them a lot.
I totally agree with that.
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2) Macros do not equal to cheating, per se, but rather obtaining an unfair advantage, this is against the ethics of the game itself. Sort like bringing a gun to a knife fight... you can do it and nothing stops you from doing it, but is it really fair?
An unfair advantage is cheating. It cheats the other players out of a fun and fair time if nothing else.
4) The biggest problem in all games is the real-time injection of object code into the stack. Properly designed, even the operating system has no idea what it going on.
[...]
Bottomline, If someone wanted to get an undetected advantage, it is simplier than anyone realizes. I won't offer any guidance, but lateral thinking is all that it required (and a soldering gun). If someone wants to cheat badly enough, nothing will stop them.
I think you'd be pretty surprised/impressed with Assist's detection methods. Not much is possible these days without some form of detection. It's better than a lot of modern games and a far cry from what it used to be. Part of it is because we have a small user base and that makes it easier to administrate things.
Aside from my comments, I completely agree with the rest of your post.
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hello , good afternoon am .uC - mane_chikinho , and I wonder how do I get back to playing this game again , because I want to kill again ...
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hello , good afternoon am .uC - mane_chikinho , and I wonder how do I get back to playing this game again , because I want to kill again ...
Quit cheating, that's how. It's incredibly funny too, you asked me in-game if macros were allowed. I told you no and you were blatantly using them several minutes later. Of all people on the list, you deserve a permanent ban on all your accounts.
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YES , I AGREE WITH YOU SPANK , NOW THAT I'M WRONG , JUST HAVE TO HEAR ... BUT THEN YOU ALREADY CAN RELEASE MY NEW ACCOUNT ? ALREADY CREATED .. AND NOW THE PROGRAM THAT I blacked WEARING FOR MACROS ... THIS IS MY NEW ACCOUNT : http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=853498 (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=853498)
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are people really that stupid and don't understand what a week ban means. I mean come on use your dam brains
should make it 2 weeks for stupidity
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Great news, I have stoped play this game just because the people are using this macros, is ridiculous. Congratulations guys for ur perfect work, lets play cool and have a lot of fun again, GET OUT MACRORATS!!!
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ME LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF AMERICA BY THE ARMS OF USE MACRO BUT EVEN WITH THE MOUSE THAT HAVE BOUGHT DID NOT Dragunov MOUSE OF MISUSE COME HERE IF portray TDS BECAUSE LIKE MOST OF THE GAME AND DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY ACCOUNT EVEN HAVE YEARS OF WAITING GAME A RETURN ON TOPIC THANKS AND HOPE THE EXCUSE ME COMMITTED ERROR IN THAT GAME ARRESTED WITHOUT MUCH MORE ..Ba ^ La..Petel
soon as possible adimns gentlemen who can help me Thank you guys waiting tds !!!
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PETEL STOP MOANING. YOU GOT BUSTED AND NOW YOU LOST UR ACCOUNT FOR BEEING A IDIOT.
GET SOME TISSUES AND MOVE ALONG!
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ALWAYS BEEN SO STUPID OR SO WHEN A PERSON VEN recant VC BECOMES EVEN MORE IDIOTA ???
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yo capslock kiddo just accept the fact you got caught...
I feel so sorry for you :cry: :style: :D :cool:
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An unfair advantage is cheating.
Ok, I'll bite... and agree.
I recant my 2nd point, although I do not consider the USA having nuclear weapons cheating ... :)
And I am a person who will always bring a gun to a knife fight ... ha ha
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yo capslock kiddo just accept the fact you got caught...
I feel so sorry for you :cry: :style: :D :cool:
dude you are bad !!!! I no macro or macro kill you anyway, wore macro weapons only three shots, you're weak, I prefer a Brazilian player than any other part of you, players from other countries are horrible ! you speak very little and play!
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Come at me bro.
I'll soon be on the server of you, giving lessons how to play!
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dude you are bad !!!! I no macro or macro kill you anyway, wore macro weapons only three shots, you're weak, I prefer a Brazilian player than any other part of you, players from other countries are horrible ! you speak very little and play!
saying brazllian players are the best in aa game ??? Pffffffffff please look how many of those marco brazllian noobs got ban lmao
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dude you are bad !!!! I no macro or macro kill you anyway, wore macro weapons only three shots, you're weak, I prefer a Brazilian player than any other part of you, players from other countries are horrible ! you speak very little and play!
Come at a LAN and I'll prove you wrong any time :)
I've yet to see brazilian players hitting their first few shots constantly. If they could do that all the time, I would beleive you.
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ahahaha, the game face almost 7 years, I have macro to 3-4 at most messes you really think macro will affect me? sniper game, only used for burst weapons just to be automatic, I'll be teaching you more soon to play with only one free trial lesson ahaha
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dude you are bad !!!! I no macro or macro kill you anyway, wore macro weapons only three shots, you're weak, I prefer a Brazilian player than any other part of you, players from other countries are horrible ! you speak very little and play!
Keep dreaming boy.
For the rest i ignore you, cause ur a clown :D
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ahahaha, the game face almost 7 years, I have macro to 3-4 at most messes you really think macro will affect me? sniper game, only used for burst weapons just to be automatic, I'll be teaching you more soon to play with only one free trial lesson ahaha
IF you really where that good, I would've seen you at some LAN about 5 years ago. But for some reason, nobody knew you back then.
Stop talking as if you're better than you are, I don't like ignorant talk without being able to back it up.
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OK noobs the moral of the history :idea: is play normal like the rest of us and don't cheat! is that simple!
:banned: Now enjoy your week vacation! :D
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OK noobs the moral of the history :idea: is play normal like the rest of us and don't cheat! is that simple!
:banned: Now enjoy your week vacation! :D
just think you are late buddy, and macro is not cheating, it's just a gamer mouse, where all championships FPS are allowed, but here is america's army where there players who only know how to cry for everything!
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just think you are late buddy, and macro is not cheating, it's just a gamer mouse, where all championships FPS are allowed, but here is america's army where there players who only know how to cry for everything!
Dude it's so simple to get it.
You gain advantage by using it over players who don't. The game should be equal for everyone. PERIOD.
If you decide to gain this advantage ask yourself a question. Why?
I'll tell you why.
Because you're shit, plain and simple.
I've seen hundreds like you. People that brag over internet how good they are. When I check them on BT and see stats like fr 5 on HQ Raid...but when it comes to 4v4 on this map, I or someone like Bart and few other good ones have 22-2 and you 3-12. Helpless.
If you're so goddamn good back it up with something, if not... just crawl back under your stone.
Bart, I admire you that you're so nice to some idiots. I have no patience...
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Biggest downset with the competitive scene being gone is that people who are actually shit at this game value themselves as MVP's based on pubs and they're not narrowminded or anything, they just don't know how it really is. Like the ones beliving the earth was flat when there was nothing to prove otherwise back in the days. Pity fools.
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Haha and they have been saying that I'm dirty. GJ EliZ
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Haha and they have been saying that I'm dirty. GJ EliZ
Aliases[24]=(Command="Crouching| Stand",Alias="lolling") :(
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just think you are late buddy, and macro is not cheating, it's just a gamer mouse, where all championships FPS are allowed, but here is america's army where there players who only know how to cry for everything!
jeezes fucking christ this guy went full retarded, give him a medal
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just think you are late buddy, and macro is not cheating, it's just a gamer mouse, where all championships FPS are allowed, but here is america's army where there players who only know how to cry for everything!
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.troll.me%2Fimages%2Ffuturama-fry%2Fnot-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg&hash=8a03a8fe0d770edaf18bb4bc4a98668e)
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jeezes fucking christ this guy went full retarded, give him a medal
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2F476cc27b0a9589bb19518834791893b7%2Ftumblr_n6ohkuiu761srrdx1o1_500.png&hash=c966decba8c954b03a9c61ac3f37c62e)
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Dude it's so simple to get it.
You gain advantage by using it over players who don't. The game should be equal for everyone. PERIOD.
If you decide to gain this advantage ask yourself a question. Why?
I'll tell you why.
Because you're shit, plain and simple.
I've seen hundreds like you. People that brag over internet how good they are. When I check them on BT and see stats like fr 5 on HQ Raid...but when it comes to 4v4 on this map, I or someone like Bart and few other good ones have 22-2 and you 3-12. Helpless.
If you're so goddamn good back it up with something, if not... just crawl back under your stone.
Bart, I admire you that you're so nice to some idiots. I have no patience...
rmdzkc?? you are majestic poland?
wow i remember you from competitions old times 2006,2005...
you had gay friend dididiid then, no offense, u admitttted u are gays and community was ok with it then
if remember correct you was ban for mouse exploiting also why you writing in this topics wow
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Someone should just lock this, nothing positive has come out of the last few pages of this thread.
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Hahahahaha G1 roda :up: :up: This is too funny let me pop some popcorn!
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Lol@ all these shittys complaining about not being able to use a macro. God your all terrible just quit.
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Eliz Well done, you have all my respect .. :up:
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Much respect to ELiZ for coming up with the detection method and investing his time in keeping this game clean. Let this be a warning for other tweakers/cheaters.
Eliz Well done, you have all my respect ..
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I have tried to log in today into AA2.5. I was very supprised because I got a message with the following text: "BANNED! .. Reason: Mouse macro usage"
I know the rules and I always play legal way. I've never used macros (I do not know what is it).
Where can I ask to cancel my name from the banlist??
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I have tried to log in today into AA2.5. I was very supprised because I got a message with the following text: "BANNED! .. Reason: Mouse macro usage"
I know the rules and I always play legal way. I've never used macros (I do not know what is it).
Where can I ask to cancel my name from the banlist??
Are you sure you don't have a gaming mouse with some "special" features?
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I have A4 Tech X-718F http://www.a4tech.com/product.asp?cid=1&scid=1&id=299 (http://www.a4tech.com/product.asp?cid=1&scid=1&id=299)
But I dont use the official mouse software (driver) or any other software with it.
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So he got banned for having the gaming mouse software or for actually using the macro feature?
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So he got banned for having the gaming mouse software or for actually using the macro feature?
yea I thought the samething, I thought long as you don't make macros on mouse or keyboard ur able to install the software that come with that type of mouse
correct??
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We detect the usage of Mouse Macros.
So it doesn't matter if it's HW or software that is used.
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yea I thought the samething, I thought long as you don't make macros on mouse or keyboard ur able to install the software that come with that type of mouse
correct??
Correct.
We detected the usage of macros.
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thx for clearing it up
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and again: I dont use macros!!! I hate cheaters too.
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Hi
I cant login with another account. why?
thx
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The ban is a 1 week HW ban, after that you can post an ban appeal.
In the appeal we will need BOTH the old BT_ID and the new like this.
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/xxxxxx/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/xxxxxx/)
We will then remove the HW ban, and allow you to play with the new account.
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OK, thanks.
the old:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/407605/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/407605/)
the new:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/839116/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/839116/)
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OK, thanks.
the old:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/407605/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/407605/)
the new:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/839116/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/839116/)
New account activated
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"sry, old tread but its fit's to my querys"
currently i play in assist with an heavy old brocken mouse but i must change now my equipment (not for macros and stuff) so far.
nowadays the trend is that almost every mouse (even keyboards, headsets...etc.) uses some kind of "macros" build in "script's or software" and its a pain in ass to escape them and don't to get a disadvantage if i boycott this and buy a let's say a office-mouse with ball (:D) because i love the old aao2 gameplay. especialy if you play besides aao2 other modern fps games.
the point is i don't wanna use and need (this "macro" advantage) but i wanna use the newest technique (dpi, speed, report rate, response time, quality, and fits in my hand etc.) and to be uptodate at this point.
i got a new cracked "a4tech bloody v8m multi-core" mouse while ago but i don't use them in assist so far.
to Question:
did anyone play in assist with this mouse in core1 mode (standard without any macro function) but i'am not 100% sure if is true and i'am afraid of using the mouse while assist is running?
you can pm me if you don't wanna make it public!
howsoever how can i be sure if i'm save or not in this case, is ther a way i can keep the modern mouse for all games with the original software so i don't need to plug and play different mouse's
i tryed to turn "core 1 mode" to "on" via the software and tested this on my desktop (watched my mouse-curser) without assist. i tryed to shoot and switching to the other modis (via mouse) and it seems the macros realy gone but im not to 100% sure. and i don't wanna evoke a ban to lose "THE" game wich i support (love/hate) since 2003. :D
http://www.technologyx.com/pc-hardware/peripherals/a4tech-bloody-gun3-uc3-headshot-v8-gaming-mouse-review-40-for-the-ultimate-package/7/ (http://www.technologyx.com/pc-hardware/peripherals/a4tech-bloody-gun3-uc3-headshot-v8-gaming-mouse-review-40-for-the-ultimate-package/7/)
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While I'm not 100% sure, I don't believe most mice come with macros that are activated automatically.
With that said, your mouse can have macro capabilities as long as you don't use them in Assist.
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I guess the point is NOT to create macros like "jump & reload" and others like that.
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I've used that mouse for about a week threw it out the window piece of shit mouse. Now using g500 another shit mouse........