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Title: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:21:04 AM
We have an important announcement today!

After much consideration, we have decided it best to remove the training requirement for playing online. The training was originally implemented to retain the authentic gameplay and as a deterrent for banned users creating a second account before we had manual account activation.

Taking a look at the information we have as far as player statistics, it was shocking to see how many new accounts never completed basic training in order to play online. By removing the training requirement, we are hoping to boost the number of in-game players substantially. If you know anyone that has uninstalled or given up before finishing training, please encourage them to come back and enjoy the game.

A mass email will be sent out shortly to announce this major update.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:22:16 AM
ELiZ!

The problem is, newer accounts can't play.
It looks as if they're not activated.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: -NicK.! on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:23:59 AM
Great choice
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Zork on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:24:33 AM
My account is locked and I cannot play and it's my birthday and i'm sad :'(
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:26:39 AM
ELiZ!

The problem is, newer accounts can't play.
It looks as if they're not activated.

Give me an id
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Alex on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 AM
Give me an id
I already tried adding the accounts to the activated list manually, but it doesn't work. Teddy tried another one of his accounts and the same thing happened. BTID was 843335
It seems like all accounts made after activation was required are not being allowed to play. In other words, all the accounts that were manually activated can't play.
zork's BTID is : 840410
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Zork on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:30:03 AM
My account's not new though. I don't know. But this is my I.D. # 840410
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:46:08 AM
Try now.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Alex on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:48:36 AM
Try now.
Auth seems to be down now. Keeps timing out.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:53:03 AM
Auth up again.

Zork, can you try again
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Zork on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:53:24 AM
I'm on thnx <3
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:53:34 AM
I can log in with 843335 now, so all is well.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Alex on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:54:19 AM
Everything seems to be working. Good job.   :up:
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 02:55:18 AM
Sorry about that.

When I said that training requirement is disabled, there were also a rather radical change on the backend of the Auth server and how it handles accounts, that was causing the problems. I could not test the new component before we went live.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 03:03:18 AM
Sorry about that.

When I said that training requirement is disabled, there were also a rather radical change on the backend of the Auth server and how it handles accounts, that was causing the problems. I could not test the new component before we went live.
It's totally OK. It all works now so it's all good! :)
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 03:16:41 AM
Looks great. Step 1 of gaining users back is complete.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 05:24:29 AM
Looks great. Step 1 of gaining users back is complete.
:D
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 06:34:39 AM
Sorry about that.

When I said that training requirement is disabled, there were also a rather radical change on the backend of the Auth server and how it handles accounts, that was causing the problems. I could not test the new component before we went live.
I get another report of this from http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/843944/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/843944/) not being able to log in at this moment. I fixed it manually at this point. Please tell me if you got any issues
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:08:08 AM
If training is optional, does that mean that a non trained account can now join a
special map, like sf or mAAp ?
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:08:43 AM
If training is optional, does that mean that a non trained account can now join a
special map, like sf or mAAp ?
Sure, that's the idea.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:13:10 AM
thx again
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: WORLDCHANCELLOR on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:23:46 AM
 :up: :up: :up:  :D :D :style: :style: :style:

This is perfect.

And now, on top of all the other pluses that come along with this, when admins forceclass snipers, we won't get shot by an automatic weapon! Awe-fucking-some!
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:25:11 AM
thx again
Since all clients also thinks they are fully trained, you can also try the SF or Sniper training if you want too without being forced to do the lower levels first.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 07:49:39 AM
great job as always ELiZ !!!!
 :up:  :up:  :up:  :up:  :up: :P  :up:  :up:  :up:
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 08:02:46 AM
great job as always ELiZ !!!!
 :up:  :up:  :up:  :up:  :up: :P  :up:  :up:  :up:


Wasn't my idea, I just implemented it.

Idea and the following discussion was the other Admins and the people in the RM group.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 08:06:20 AM
yes I know :)
but you did change it now, so thanks a lot again.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Jared on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 10:27:45 AM
Congrats to the RM members, assist admins and Eliz for making this happen.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Dialects on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 11:01:04 AM
Congrats to the RM members, assist admins and Eliz for making this happen.

x2.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Vilkas on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
Great job:)
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 14:43:22 PM
Dum question by having it off they still have to work for the sf weapon right????
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Alex on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 14:47:23 PM
Dum question by having it off they still have to work for the sf weapon right????
No. Everyone will now be able to play SF maps without doing the training.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 16:18:39 PM
No. Everyone will now be able to play SF maps without doing the training.

sorry but that's stupid if u want a sf should have to work for it like we all had to
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Alex on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 16:21:05 PM
sorry but that's stupid if u want a sf should have to work for it like we all had to
We made a decision based on what is best for the game.
Seeing as the NA community seems to just love Pipe SF and that's typically the only server up, it was impossible for new NA players to rank up because the only map being played, they couldn't play. This is one of many reasons for disabling the training requirement.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Jared on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 17:38:55 PM
sorry but that's stupid if u want a sf should have to work for it like we all had to

Its not.

It took weeks to vote on this, and the data we have on player accounts, player accounts completing training, and player account playing with only completing basic training is uncompromising. This is a move to help this game grow, and stay active.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: WORLDCHANCELLOR on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 18:05:04 PM
sorry but that's stupid if u want a sf should have to work for it like we all had to

At least half the people who have their SF training complete (way before Assist) didn't even complete the SF training, bro.  And they do still have to 'work' to get the SF weapon. Don't forget how AA2 works. If you have 0 Points, and 10-20 honor, the person who is of higher honor and more points from the previous set will have weapon-choice priority. And you never really "worked" for it anyway. You endured 'training' that was mostly propaganda for the purpose of shaping attitudes about our American military and getting people to join the US Army. Is it going to make them better than you when they have an SF weapon? No. If the issue is really from such a vantage point, consider the fact that we don't really know if you or anyone completed that training anyway, especially if you made your account pre-Assist.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 18:36:28 PM
At least half the people who have their SF training complete (way before Assist) didn't even complete the SF training, bro.  And they do still have to 'work' to get the SF weapon. Don't forget how AA2 works. If you have 0 Points, and 10-20 honor, the person who is of higher honor and more points from the previous set will have weapon-choice priority. And you never really "worked" for it anyway. You endured 'training' that was mostly propaganda for the purpose of shaping attitudes about our American military and getting people to join the US Army. Is it going to make them better than you when they have an SF weapon? No. If the issue is really from such a selfish vantage point, consider the fact that we don't really know if you or anyone completed that training anyway, especially if you made your account pre-Assist.

yea i guess, well hopefully more get invloved now
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: WORLDCHANCELLOR on Saturday, August 09, 2014, 19:17:32 PM
yea i guess, well hopefully more get invloved now

Yes, indeed. HOOAH!!!
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Bart! on Sunday, August 10, 2014, 05:15:12 AM
Yes, indeed. HOOAH!!!
thats the goal of this decision.  Getting more people play this game.  We are keeping track of the statistics, while we add some extra advertisements, trying to contact other parties etc, disabling training,  adding videos on YouTube,  I will try to stream more often. We will see whether this will make a difference
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, August 10, 2014, 16:07:38 PM
Happy to hear a good decision.  :up:


We have an important announcement today!

After much consideration, we have decided it best to remove the training requirement for playing online. The training was originally implemented to retain the authentic gameplay and as a deterrent for banned users creating a second account before we had manual account activation.

Taking a look at the information we have as far as player statistics, it was shocking to see how many new accounts never completed basic training in order to play online. By removing the training requirement, we are hoping to boost the number of in-game players substantially. If you know anyone that has uninstalled or given up before finishing training, please encourage them to come back and enjoy the game.

A mass email will be sent out shortly to announce this major update.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Raider_Reaper on Sunday, August 10, 2014, 20:58:31 PM
now we just need to remove the half points for forceclass servers 
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Vilkas on Sunday, August 10, 2014, 21:06:59 PM
now we just need to remove the half points for forceclass servers 

Take the last breath of fun from this game.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, August 10, 2014, 23:07:25 PM
now we just need to remove the half points for forceclass servers 

I should remind you that the goal of Assist isn't to allow users to rack up a larger number on a 3rd party website. The goal is to keep America's Army 2 alive. The fact that forceclassing is allowed at all is something you should be thankful for (if you enjoy that kind of thing). It was never officially allowed.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, August 11, 2014, 09:06:48 AM
i do really think it is good like it is now. just play and have fun :)
and do welcome the new players with fairness and respect, then this game will grow again.
thank you!
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: Spanky on Monday, August 11, 2014, 16:20:43 PM
I have fixed both the Getting Started page and the YouTube video by adding an annotation.
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: M@dness on Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 14:04:17 PM
well done on finally putting it to rest . although  i wonder now if it means people will fill the shout box with help requests because they didnt do the training , hahaha,  lol joking  ,again ,another good job by the  dev team  hooah!
Title: Re: Training is now optional
Post by: tydek on Sunday, August 17, 2014, 05:37:56 AM
Well done  :style: