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Title: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 16:59:05 PM
A frequent member of the AAO25 forums, Ganja, has created a how-to video on nade locations for Urban Assault. It's uploaded onto our official YouTube channel. Have a watch and maybe you'll learn something new!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBCeRaMXlXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBCeRaMXlXE)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: zoxee on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 17:43:26 PM
Mostly nothing new, but nice one for the newbies  :)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 18:42:25 PM
Mostly nothing new, but nice one for the newbies  :)

Levels the playing field. I didn't know any of these despite having been around AA for 8 or so years.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: zoxee on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 22:58:37 PM
The problem with those nades is that they are hard to throw as described on a crowded server,
as bullets are flying around and you can't afford to stand still and concentrate on a spot to achieve them.
Good for scrims though.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 23:00:30 PM
The problem with those nades is that they are hard to throw as described on a crowded server,
as bullets are flying around and you can't afford to stand still and concentrate on a spot to achieve them.
Good for scrims though.

Well I know them by heart now and can do them pretty fast I assure you. It's all about practise ;)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 01:18:40 AM
Very nice video Ganja!

Like I told you on TS, It's hard at times to do it on the go when you don't have a lot of time to position yourself as well as your hand correctly, but like you said, given a lot of practice one can master next to anything.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 01:42:08 AM
I'll practice in nading his nadespots :style:
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 01:43:52 AM
Btw, some of them are not doable when you use a widescreen resolution since your thumb then is invisible.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: rmcdzk on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 07:22:40 AM
Levels the playing field.

No. Thinking and ability to predict makes you a better player, not some funny nades. I know them all and few better ones but barely use them. No need on pub. In competitive game good teamwork is still 10 times more important than what we've seen on this video. Try to kill me more than once with any of these nades, good luck.  ;) 

Ganja  :up: , now you need to do SF Hospital tutorial, some awsome 203 shots for best aao players just to boost their skill up in the sky. Nowadays it would be more practical than some niche map like urban or mountain pass se. ;)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 08:01:25 AM
thanks Ganja, I didn't know that.
good job, nice done....and go on please.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
In competitive game good teamwork is still 10 times more important than what we've seen on this video.

Nobody said the contrary. Maybe you can make a video about some good teamwork and tactics and sh!t to level the game up? :*

I didn't make this video thinking every player would become good because they can to one or two useful nades, it's just that sometimes it's just "fun" to be able to nade at a difficult spot.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Dialects on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
Good video; informative and instructive in all senses.

In regards to the on-going argument; I'd like to think that what these type of videos do is open up new player's mentality to the complexity and learning curve AA offers. Not all new players figure this game can be as strategic and as complex as it is, resulting on a tendency to average their game style to the simplest/fastest possible.

Videos like the one Ganja said remind us all that there are several styles of gameplay one can choose from...or die from. The sole fact that new players have access to information like this will make them weary of unseen nades, less prone to camp at one spot and ultimately that'll make their gameplay adapt and grow into being more complex and complete.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Ares on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 12:21:19 PM
being the picky bastard I am, I miss a few good nades in there. And don't viewclassprojectile work anymore with grenades? Great for making tutorials. Good video tho, but the color shift made my eyes hurt, my colorblindness went a-wall.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 12:26:32 PM
being the picky bastard I am, I miss a few good nades in there. And don't viewclassprojectile work anymore with grenades? Great for making tutorials. Good video tho, but the color shift made my eyes hurt, my colorblindness went a-wall.
Viewclass works, but only offline and frags actually fly differently offline.

I'm pretty sure he left some nades out on purpose, though.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 12:33:17 PM
Viewclass works, but only offline and frags actually fly differently offline.

I'm pretty sure he left some nades out on purpose, though.

Exactly, it only works offline and those nades don't work ;)
Exactly, there's no need to put my supersecret nades out there, since now Bart already said he was going to nade my nading spots :D

btw what nades are you missing? :) Only ones I can think of to be honest are from yellow to central, yellow inside east or central inside east ...
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: rmcdzk on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 13:41:21 PM
Nobody said the contrary. Maybe you can make a video about some good teamwork and tactics and sh!t to level the game up? :*
Yeah I know, I just reffered to Spanky saying it levels the playing field, which is wrong :)
What for :) ? Publics on normal maps are pretty much dead, there's no league or cup alive atm, competitive game is dead and it looks like it'll stay like that. In desbl there is no need for tactics against some sfhospital clans, as you can see we win every match by 4 random guys with some random pubplay and teamwork on pub is just an illusion. So :D ? I can send you my 6v6  20 page MPSE tactics in msword from the good times... You'll have something to read to the pillow before sleeping :P

I didn't make this video thinking every player would become good because they can to one or two useful nades, it's just that sometimes it's just "fun" to be able to nade at a difficult spot.

I can understand this point of view, but it's clearly far from mine. Every moron can throw any of these nades, it's just about practice on empty server. I prefer to outplay my opponent in the way he feels helpless, the more helpless, the more fun. It's more about being smarter, faster, better without any doubts, not throwing some random granades on the most obvious places on the map  :poorguy:  :D

Nevertheless I appreciate your time spent on this video :up: :)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 13:50:41 PM
Blah blah blah competitive competitive competitive competitive competitive competitive competitive competitive blah blah blah.

What's wrong with playing the game normally ("publics"as you call it)? When all these little "tactics" (learning tiny details about a map) are known by everybody, it does level the playing field. For people that don't know they're possible, they have a disadvantage plain and simple. I never knew it was possible to nade into that one objective room on Urban Assault without using the doors. A lot of people don't piss away hours studying every square inch of a map offline. A lot of people just play for fun, and that's the way it should be. When you can knowingly avoid spam and shitty gameplay that ub3r pro comp league players use, it makes the game more fair and enjoyable.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Yahoo on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 14:45:32 PM
In life, if you want to be one of the best you have to work harder than anyone, either in sports, relationships, work... the same applies to gaming if someone spams or use nades better than it's because they worked harder at some point, practice leads to excellence, that's what they say...
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: rmcdzk on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 15:00:41 PM
For people that don't know they're possible, they have a disadvantage plain and simple.
Ask yourself a question does it takes a lot imagination to think that out by yourself.  It's not my fault that most of people are lazy and need being lead by the hand with everything in their lifes.

I never knew it was possible to nade into that one objective room on Urban Assault without using the doors. A lot of people don't piss away hours studying every square inch of a map offline.

If there's enough space, the granade should pass the boards. As you said it's plain and simple. It takes less than 10mins to think off the good and safe throwing position and learning the nade itself, not more. Probably it's less time than you waste everyday on Facebook, scratching your ass or hundreds other useless activities you do everyday.  I wonder when you'll learn that those nades thrown into objectives are mostly invisible for people who are in the objective. ;)   

A lot of people just play for fun, and that's the way it should be. When you can knowingly avoid spam and shitty gameplay that ub3r pro comp league players use, it makes the game more fair and enjoyable.

Haven't seen good players use brainless spam often, they rather prefer to use granades or flashes in certain purpose when they?re you sure of the effect it would do. I don't know what you mean by 'shitty gameplay' exacly. Better than yours, more efficient, smarter?... but it doesn't matter for me tbh.
Definition of fun is complicated and I believe it's different for everyone. I guess we differ pretty much from each other in this case and hey, it's fine. This is why world is beautiful and longer discussion doesn't make sense to me.:)
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 15:05:39 PM
Maybe I worded it wrong. My point is that spammers and map whores are what make the game boring. Teaching their tactics to everybody leads to fairer gameplay.

Fun is playing a map that's rarely played because people make up tactics as they learn what works and what doesn't. Playing Urban Assault or Pipeline gets insanely boring because you're up against map whores that have spent way too much of their life playing just that one map. As Yahoo said, practice makes perfect and map whores have way too much practice. It's sad to see that people don't branch out and move beyond their map whore comfort level to have some real fun in the game.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, August 07, 2014, 04:47:15 AM

Haven't seen good players use brainless spam often, they rather prefer to use granades or flashes in certain purpose when they?re you sure of the effect it would do. I don't know what you mean by 'shitty gameplay' exacly. Better than yours, more efficient, smarter?... but it doesn't matter for me tbh.
Definition of fun is complicated and I believe it's different for everyone. I guess we differ pretty much from each other in this case and hey, it's fine. This is why world is beautiful and longer discussion doesn't make sense to me.:)


Some aren't just spamnades. Like inside objective nades are very effective, it's not per-se spam. But I do perfectly get both point of views and I do understand sharing tactics would be pretty useless at this point of the game, I just had some time free and thought why not ;)

Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Jared on Thursday, August 07, 2014, 10:19:52 AM
Nice video Ganja, thanks for taking the time.
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: zoxee on Thursday, August 07, 2014, 21:48:38 PM
Every moron can throw any of these nades

most of people are lazy and need being lead by the hand with everything in their lifes

Step down of your high chair pls
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: Bart! on Friday, August 08, 2014, 01:45:07 AM
Step down of your high chair pls
Actually imo he's right, Ive seen so many people who just wont think of themselves and just do things they are told, not more not less
Title: Re: [Video Tutorial] How to nade on Urban Assault
Post by: zoxee on Friday, August 08, 2014, 17:57:19 PM
May be so, the way he said it just sounded a bit despising towards other players.
Any argument can be brought forward, provided it is done respectfully.