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Title: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 10:10:22 AM
this one is for you Vegeta

Lord-of-War :style:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: voras on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 10:34:40 AM
Crazy boy :D
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 10:52:45 AM
Well funny you should ask that I was talking about him last night with Gun,
I think Trump went in thinking he could make America great again. I think America voted him in as they are sick of the same old circle of reprobates that normaly run the country and they get no return from them.
I think there is enough information out there that lets the people know there polaticions are mostly all corrupt.

I now think that since he got in with all his ideas of what he is going to try and do.
He now knows he cant do nothing. This is why he has not done what he said he wopruld. And obama never done what he said he would do.

So now hes in offeice he meet the men in black that tell him in no uncertian terms what is going to happen and what will not happen. He is a puppet like all the other puppets that have been in office since a very long time.
He now knows where his place is in the chain of life, and it is nit the boss or desision maker in any way shaoe or form.

He has less power than me.

But personally hes a clown. I would turn him inside out in seconds in any debate.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 10:59:50 AM
Now what I think of Putin is he has been the best leader in any country that I can think of.
He has turned russia round 180 degrees.
His planes are the best in the world.
He defence  is the best in the world.
with all americas and there puppet UN none of there santions has had any ill effect. In fact it all back foired. Ri=ussia is in a stronger postion than it has been in since the war. and They have the best rockets in the world as well.
And see that space shuttle america has. Russian had it long before the usa but never had the funds to finnish the whole project. Russian is in three countrys world wide by invitation.
America is in 147 countrys. and some are not by invitation like syria.

Putin kicked americas ass out of  syria. America was banging on about assad must go. lol. Clowns hes still there and america crapped it. Whats up Russia to big for ya. Yes they are.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5gL9LUKvM#)

I am sure everybody knows this one

Lord-of-War  :style:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 12:13:27 PM
all he cares about if he is gonna have golden showers  :D

Lord-of-War  :style:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 14:57:55 PM
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Well funny you should ask that I was talking about him last night with Gun,
I think Trump went in thinking he could make America great again. I think America voted him in as they are sick of the same old circle of reprobates that normaly run the country and they get no return from them.
I think there is enough information out there that lets the people know there polaticions are mostly all corrupt.

I now think that since he got in with all his ideas of what he is going to try and do.
He now knows he cant do nothing. This is why he has not done what he said he wopruld. And obama never done what he said he would do.

So now hes in offeice he meet the men in black that tell him in no uncertian terms what is going to happen and what will not happen. He is a puppet like all the other puppets that have been in office since a very long time.
He now knows where his place is in the chain of life, and it is nit the boss or desision maker in any way shaoe or form.

He has less power than me.

But personally hes a clown. I would turn him inside out in seconds in any debate.

I'm sort of surprised of the opinion you have about Trump, i thought it used to be kind of different...? For the matter anyway, even republicans voted against (several) attempts to eliminate the Obamacare. So yeah, it's not just hard to change things, even his own political party doesn't agree with decisions such as these.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 15:30:29 PM
How long is this modded thing for two years three years?
My opinion was different I wanted hin to win to sahke things up but he was always a clown in  my eyes. So All I had for him was I wanted him to win. But it will not hold up the elites for long as has already been seen
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 15:36:31 PM
[w].deskflyer7 would have a lot of good things to say about Trump  :D

I'm of the opinion that all, at least the major, world politicians are all selfish bastards! They only protect their own interests, with a bit of bias towards their nation's people, but they can also do things to hurt them like setup terrorism at home (911 being one of the major conspiracy theories in this case).

Life ain't fair - NOBODY gives a sh*t about you... (as I recently came to realise)
Now you have two choices, play this immoral game and by making the right moves you can get rich (poor Chinese factory workers) at the expense of other human beings in order to thrive and prosper OR you can try to fight the immorality, by acting morally and fair, but you will be playing an unfair game, it will cost you money from your own pocket and you have very slim chance to survive :/

Trump or Putin only matters for a certain group, they just have to make sure you have majority of population happy enough so that they won't start a revolution - small details don't matter, YOU DON'T MATTER :/

I love this 'The Inconvenient Truth' video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s)
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 15:41:19 PM
Great post man agreed on all things apart from oone. I really believ putin has a heat for the people I have been looking at him for about two years now. I am sure you know not to listen anything that is on the world media.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Wednesday, January 03, 2018, 18:40:27 PM
The only reason it 'seems' so is because he made himself the one and ONLY KING - by making the right moves in political and social aspects in order to satisfy the 'majority' (as I explained before). The Russian media is biased and are practically licking his balls - no opposition exists  :censored:

A guy called Navalny exposed via YouTube (but masses and minds are controlled by the TV, not internet yet - read 1984 by George Orwell, exactly that) the corruption of Medvedev by making the highest rated documentary about it on Russian movie database, and straight away he was being oppressed by a number of lawsuits in order to "shut, him, up". He applied to run for president, but was denied because of ongoing lawsuits. Putin just eliminated any competition  :makemyday:

I have many Russian friends and I ask them, who will you vote for in 2018?
 - to what they reply "well PUTIN of course, there's nobody else......" (not as if they had a look around, they are just brainwashed to think he's the one and only)  :shock:
Besides, for 'majority' life is stable, and any change of power could bring unwanted problems, so people simply choose to stay in the current comfort zone, rather than risk bringing more problems for them.

But as I said before, it don't really matter, this political game is just made to take away our time, to prevent us from realising the real issues of society and prevent any unscheduled revolutions  :style:

P.S. I wouldn't vote for Putin - he betrayed my home of Donbass (East Ukraine). When the conflict in Ukraine started, Putin had a conference and reporter asked him:
Reporter "Are you not afraid that war will break out?" (Russia Vs Ukraine)
Putin "No, we will not fight with Ukraine. And just let someone from the Ukrainian military try to shoot at their own people, the Russian military will stand behind the people, not in front, but behind"
 ^ after this I, and everyone in East Ukraine, thought that they had his support in 2014 - but boy were they wrong, barely any support came from official Russian military, and there was hardly enough unofficial and volunteers. My home region is now buried in ruins, mines and bodies - f*ck PUTIN!
(source in Russian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoQXvPsBBn8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoQXvPsBBn8))
In a way, what he said was actually the inconvenient truth! Russian military stood on the border and watched my region burn...  :cry:

I highly recommend this video by David Icke, a British Conspiracist, at Oxford if you believe you understand politics... watch half of it definitely, but then it gets a little crazy, even for me  :up: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rknWU-IfdoA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rknWU-IfdoA))
I find David Icke's theory most realistic, it's impossible to prove, but I don't find and logical argument against it - therefore it feels like the unfortunate truth to me :(
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 07:01:32 AM
IMHO Trump is a monkey. Having been in office for a week, he was reported saying something to the effect "I didn't know it would be this difficult". A man like him should not be in public office. I even read this week that because of him the EU and US relations are slacking.
He's supposed to be a role model for his citizens and represent his country on the international stage, but if the US people have such a role model, I really don't want to see their next generation. Additionally, with his unpredictable behavior and statements, it's very difficult for other countries to take him seriously.
He acts like a bully, but a man of his position should not do that.

Just my opinion, though. Feel free to disagree.

As for Putin, I'm fairly certain he knows what he's doing fairly well. He's got his KGB training, after all.
For the passed decade (at least), he's been trying to grasp the lines he is allowed to cross within the international community. He's invaded a number of countries with little to no real fallback, for instance. It is no secret that Russia wishes to regain their federation (i.e most of Eastern Europe). This is their clear goal, but they cannot achieve it in a few years like they did with the 2nd world war.
As for the people in Russia, given how easily they're manipulated if the government controls most of the media they trust, it's not a real surprise to see little to no initiative towards change of regime. The propaganda engine developed within the Soviet Union has not died and is still hard at work there. It's probably not as bad as in North Korea (which - as I've heard - showed a football match between them and Brazil which they lost 1-2 as if they'd won it 1-0), but there isn't really room for doubt in the kind of news they produce.

Just my $0.02
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 07:23:54 AM
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It is no secret that Russia wishes to regain their federation (i.e most of Eastern Europe). This is their clear goal, but they cannot achieve it in a few years like they did with the 2nd world war.

Excuse me, but most of Eastern Europe is RUSSIAN! It was part of Russian Empire for at least 300 years before the USSR was even formed! It's Russia's land!
Now, I don't want them to take it by force! But if, in the case like Crimea, vast majority are Russian speakers and are Pro-Russian, and they vote on it (you can argue that they were forced on, but that's bull - visit Crimea yourself and ask around, I did), then I see no reason for all the Russian lands not to unite again. Slavs are Slavs and should be united, maybe not under Putin, but united never the less.

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As for the people in Russia, given how easily they're manipulated
Ahem, you think American's or some other nation ain't as susceptible to being manipulated?
Look at how much media time Trump had during USA election - and guess who got into power? (https://www.quora.com/How-big-of-an-impact-did-the-mass-media-have-on-the-2016-presidential-election (https://www.quora.com/How-big-of-an-impact-did-the-mass-media-have-on-the-2016-presidential-election))
"Seeing is believing" - and with the wide spread of TV it's easier than ever to force people to believe in anything you want, no matter how bizarre it might sound.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." ~ Joshep Goebbels
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 08:16:33 AM
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Now what I think of Putin is he has been the best leader in any country that I can think of.
He has turned russia round 180 degrees.
His planes are the best in the world.
He defence  is the best in the world.

And yet the living standards for avg Russians haven't risen a single bit! Now that's not a very good statistic. Military is good for world domination, but the people are living on small salaries with poor infrastructure if you don't take into account Moscow and St. Petersburg, the rest of Russia is all still from the Soviet Era.

How's this for a statistic?  :rtfm:
Avg Annual Salary Russia 8,400$  (https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/wages - MONTHLY)
Avg Annual Salary China 10,400$ (https://tradingeconomics.com/china/wages - ANNUALLY)
Avg Annual Salary USA 75,000$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States)
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 09:45:43 AM
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Excuse me, but most of Eastern Europe is RUSSIAN! It was part of Russian Empire for at least 300 years before the USSR was even formed! It's Russia's land!
Now, I don't want them to take it by force! But if, in the case like Crimea, vast majority are Russian speakers and are Pro-Russian, and they vote on it (you can argue that they were forced on, but that's bull - visit Crimea yourself and ask around, I did), then I see no reason for all the Russian lands not to unite again. Slavs are Slavs and should be united, maybe not under Putin, but united never the less.
Most Eastern Europeans might be Slavs, but they're not all Russian even if they are similar.
And that's to say, not all Eastern Europeans are Slavs. I can assure you, I'm not a Slav, I am a proud Eastern European, however.
The fact that the Russians have occupied the land of our people for centuries doesn't give them right over it.
There's a rough 25% of Russian population here (plus around 3% other Slavs), Russians were given the possibility to go to their mother land when we regained independence (many did, but majority stayedsource (http://entsyklopeedia.ee/artikkel/rahvuskoosseis_eestis)).
And we've already had this vote back in 1991. 82.9% of population turned up, 78.4% voted to get out of the USSR. That included a portion of the (then roughly 30%) Russian population.
If they want to be united (and not all of the ones living here do - I've asked), they can do that elsewhere.

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Ahem, you think American's or some other nation ain't as susceptible to being manipulated?
Look at how much media time Trump had during USA election - and guess who got into power? (https://www.quora.com/How-big-of-an-impact-did-the-mass-media-have-on-the-2016-presidential-election (https://www.quora.com/How-big-of-an-impact-did-the-mass-media-have-on-the-2016-presidential-election))
"Seeing is believing" - and with the wide spread of TV it's easier than ever to force people to believe in anything you want, no matter how bizarre it might sound.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." ~ Joshep Goebbels
That's not what I meant. I agree, the people in the US are just as easily manipulated. The difference is that there is a significant portion of the US population that does not (fully) go along with all the bullshit that's out there.
And let's be honest, it's not the TV that's the problem, it's social media and the Internet. Anyone can make a half-professional looking news site and post "The Marsians came to Earth and landed in North Carolina" or something else equally as ridiculous and have a bunch of people believe it. Adding believable pictures or even video of things that did not happen is not really a problem nowadays.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 09:59:33 AM
Shine some light on - are you from the Baltics?
If yes, then why don't you treat your own Russian citizens as equals? From what I know, if you have Russian heritage you cannot receive an equal passport to that of a native Baltic one - is this western beloved equality and democracy? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_the_Baltic_states)
Russia has given everyone equal rights in Crimea, all can get equal Russian passports and in all Russia's region's there are multiple recognised languages, so your native language, like Russia/Ukrainian are never oppressed unlike Russian is in the Baltics

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And let's be honest, it's not the TV that's the problem, it's social media and the Internet. Anyone can make a half-professional looking news site and post "The Marsians came to Earth and landed in North Carolina" or something else equally as ridiculous and have a bunch of people believe it. Adding believable pictures or even video of things that did not happen is not really a problem nowadays.
No I don't agree, for the vast majority TV is still the top source of News information. It don't really matter though, cause the same TV news propaganda leach into the internet by setting up websites and it don't matter if people watch TV or see same crap on Net.
Everyone has a TV at home, not every voter can use the internet. You're only think <30 years of age, you have to realise that a lot of the voters aren't as technologically advanced as you think they are. What about the farmer in the country side, he ain't got a fricken clue what YouTube is :/

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The difference is that there is a significant portion of the US population that does not (fully) go along with all the bullshit that's out there.
I don't agree with this either, how are you possible able to quantify this statistic?
And even then, they're still a minority that have no power on the world stage.

People don't have enough time to play political games, they barely have enough time to get enough money to survive, never mind thinking about political mind games, so all this we are more moral than yous is nonsense :/
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 12:30:34 PM
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Shine some light on - are you from the Baltics?
If yes, then why don't you treat your own Russian citizens as equals? From what I know, if you have Russian heritage you cannot receive an equal passport to that of a native Baltic one - is this western beloved equality and democracy?
Yes, I am indeed from Estonia.
Any Russian in here has the opportunity to become a citizen - just as does everyone else in the world if they take the necessary steps.
We did not give our occupiers automatic citizenship after regaining our independence, if that's what you meant, however. In fact, there's around 6% of people in Estonia who've got an alien passport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_alien%27s_passport).
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Russia has given everyone equal rights in Crimea, all can get equal Russian passports and in all Russia's region's there are multiple recognised languages, so your native language, like Russia/Ukrainian are never oppressed unlike Russian is in the Baltics
When there's an election, a lot of the adds have both Estonian and Russian on them. Same with street names in areas with high Russian populations. The law states the Estonian version cannot be less prominent, however.
There's been quite a lot of backlash on the recent change where there are no fully Russian schools anymore (mind you, a lot of subjects are still in Russian) - this is not because we want to get rid of their language or culture but rather because of the lack of qualified teachers. I'm sure some other fields will are more problematic, but it's still Estonia and not the USSR.
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I don't agree with this either, how are you possible able to quantify this statistic?
And even then, they're still a minority that have no power on the world stage.
I didn't mean the majority, just a lot of people. Call it wishful thinking if you like.
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People don't have enough time to play political games, they barely have enough time to get enough money to survive, never mind thinking about political mind games, so all this we are more moral than yous is nonsense :/
I mostly agree. It's different in different countries, but in western countries there are plenty of people who have enough time to "play political games", but - as you stated - since it's largely simply BS, it doesn't really matter much either way.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 13:17:07 PM
Sorry but I don't see Estonia on the map from the 300 years before Estonian SSR -
 you're RUSSIAN! You've just been taught to think you're not,
 and that's why you think you're some unique Estonian whom didn't exist until a millisecond ago on the universe scale. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/The_Russian_Empire-en.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/The_Russian_Empire-en.svg)

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"We did not give our occupiers automatic citizenship after regaining our independence"
Only to join NATO and EU and lose your 'independence' and then get out of the country to work as a slave elsewhere in Europe and forget your beloved country  :?

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occupiers
So the generation of people whom lived their for 300 years are occupiers - or maybe you're the occupier.
Besides, the way borders are made is nonsense, like Crimea is Russian speaking and everything yet was part of Ukraine for 50 years (Russia gifted it to them in 1950s). So just because some part of modern Estonia has a large Russian population doesn't mean they're occupying your land  :o

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Alien Status
Knowledge of the respective official language and in some cases the Constitution and/or history and an oath of loyalty to established constitutional order was set as a condition for obtaining citizenship through naturalisation. However, the purported difficulty of the initial language tests became a point of international contention, as the government of Russia, the Council of Europe, and several human rights organizations claiming that they made it impossible for many older Russians who grew up in the Baltic region to gain citizenship. As a result, the tests were altered,[citation needed] but a large percentage of Russians in Latvia and Estonia still have non-citizen or alien status.

Care to explain why these Estonian citizens, who's lands you took over - have alien status yet they pay the same taxes as you?  :rtfm:

Did you watch "The Lie We Live" video, it's only 10 min, highly recommend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s)  :up:

"I'm a Russian Occupant" - video worth a watch, summarises my position on modern brother's and Slav hatred in recent times. This was never the case during the Russian Empire or USSR (at least mid way) was it? 3 min, turn on English subs --> https://youtu.be/mmmFL594iL0  :cool:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, January 04, 2018, 14:17:12 PM
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Sorry but I don't see Estonia on the map from the 300 years before Estonian SSR -
 you're RUSSIAN! You've just been taught to think you're not,
 and that's why you think you're some unique Estonian whom didn't exist until a millisecond ago on the universe scale.
Up until a certain point, there were no countries on the map. Estonians have lived where we do now for thousands of years (around 5), however. Our language belongs to the belongs to the Finnic branch of the Uralic language family. That's not Russian, it's not even Slavic.
I'd understand your point if we had similar culture and/or language, but that's simply not the case.
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Only to join NATO and EU and lose your 'independence' and then get out of the country to work as a slave elsewhere in Europe and forget your beloved country
We've benefited quite a lot from joining both. Sure, we might have lost a part of our 'independence', but the gain has been greater. To each their own opinion, of course.
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So the generation of people whom lived their for 300 years are occupiers - or maybe you're the occupier.
A lot of the Russian population was moved to Estonia during the Soviet occupation. They wanted 1 unified Soviet nation and therefore needed to mix things up. And even if that wasn't the case, 5000 years > 300 years.
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Care to explain why these Estonian citizens, who's lands you took over - have alien status yet they pay the same taxes as you?
They've come to our land, not the other way around. And if they don't want to work for our citizenship, we can't force it on them. They had the opportunity to go to their homeland, they didn't.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 21:20:22 PM
They've come to our land, not the other way around.

Your land? Since when do you, own any part of Earth? Don't want to get all religious, but technically, its God's property and we're just his toys.
People go where there is job and prospects, I see nothing from with other coming over to work on a different patch of land which would yield higher income to them.
It's the same with the time of Industrial Revolution, people moved from countryside into cities, and I don't see the city people claiming the 'city' as theirs and telling the country folks to "f*ck off" - that's just night right. We're all Gods people - technically ;)

Also, out of curiosity, from your drive of Estonian Independence and nationalistic view, are you currently living in Estonia, or have to emigrated elsewhere into EU?
Because the trend that I witness in the EU, is that Eastern European cheap labour is welcome in prosperous country's like UK. So you, foreign people, come over while leaving your beloved Independent home... what's the point of independence if the first thing you do is get as far away as possible? :O
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: svyatonmac on Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 21:32:56 PM
As far as borders, randomly drawn lines on a map, are concerned, to divide your, and my land...

https://www.facebook.com/IsraelWC/videos/1327253580698793/?hc_ref=ARSrEozDWFcd4Ic80BBYrvN0WCf0QMNJVa2pVttotaPq2JLob5QSFiDilaeS5kIs8bI (https://www.facebook.com/IsraelWC/videos/1327253580698793/?hc_ref=ARSrEozDWFcd4Ic80BBYrvN0WCf0QMNJVa2pVttotaPq2JLob5QSFiDilaeS5kIs8bI)
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: -Vegeta- on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 03:01:59 AM
Y Don't want to get all religious, but technically, its God's property and we're just his toys.


what god is that your talking about? For its not the God of the universe?
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 03:52:50 AM
Your land? Since when do you, own any part of Earth? Don't want to get all religious, but technically, its God's property and we're just his toys.
People go where there is job and prospects, I see nothing from with other coming over to work on a different patch of land which would yield higher income to them.
It's the same with the time of Industrial Revolution, people moved from countryside into cities, and I don't see the city people claiming the 'city' as theirs and telling the country folks to "f*ck off" - that's just night right. We're all Gods people - technically ;)
This is a very odd paragraph. What god are you talking about? Christian god? Muslim god? A god of another religion?
You say, the land "technically belongs to god", but where do you get this technicality? From your religion? I don't know of a credible "guide to the world" written by "the god(s)".

Also, out of curiosity, from your drive of Estonian Independence and nationalistic view, are you currently living in Estonia, or have to emigrated elsewhere into EU?
Because the trend that I witness in the EU, is that Eastern European cheap labour is welcome in prosperous country's like UK. So you, foreign people, come over while leaving your beloved Independent home... what's the point of independence if the first thing you do is get as far away as possible? :O
I do still live in Estonia.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 04:41:27 AM
off the subject  :D

Lord-of-War  :style:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Scorpy on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 04:59:02 AM
no need to think about him, he will soon be gone  :cool:
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 10:00:04 AM
no need to think about him, he will soon be gone  :cool:

Never he will get another 4 years =-}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
least he is doing something
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 11:56:44 AM
I don't think he is the problem - just another asshole crawling up the deep
state's ass - (how do you like the view?  :shock:)
This is the real problem everybody should think about - everything else will solve
itself if the world can tackle the damn overpopulation

Lord-of-War  :style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Alex on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 21:59:13 PM
The piece of shit just said he won't ever visit the UK, one of our biggest allies, unless protests are banned. I feel like that right there says it all. He's a not just a terrible president, but a terrible human being as well. He doesn't care about freedom, just his own personal wealth.
/rant
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 22:13:45 PM
The piece of shit just said he won't ever visit the UK, one of our biggest allies, unless protests are banned. I feel like that right there says it all. He's a not just a terrible president, but a terrible human being as well. He doesn't care about freedom, just his own personal wealth.
/rant

At your young age why do you care to get involved with politics??? 

Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Alex on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 22:22:51 PM
At your young age why do you care to get involved with politics??? 


What kind of bullshit question is that? It affects my life. How old do you even think I am and why should that change anything?
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 23:39:48 PM
What kind of bullshit question is that? It affects my life. How old do you even think I am and why should that change anything?

No older then 23, at 23 I wasn't worried about no dam politics that's for sure, getting laid and school was more important!!!!!

Enjoy your youth let the old timers stress out on politics , you youngsters don't have a clue
And stop being so God dam uptight
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Alex on Friday, January 26, 2018, 00:09:35 AM
No older then 23, at 23 I wasn't worried about no dam politics that's for sure, getting laid and school was more important!!!!!

Enjoy your youth let the old timers stress out on politics , you youngsters don't have a clue
And stop being so God dam uptight
Well you're now 0-2 on your post. l I am older than 23 and your post is so ignorant is hurts to read. Congrats.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, January 26, 2018, 01:34:37 AM
The piece of shit just said he won't ever visit the UK, one of our biggest allies, unless protests are banned. I feel like that right there says it all. He's a not just a terrible president, but a terrible human being as well. He doesn't care about freedom, just his own personal wealth.
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I feel like all people who think with something other than their ass should reach this conclusion. Sadly not the case, however.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, January 26, 2018, 10:20:41 AM
Well you're now 0-2 on your post. l I am older than 23 and your post is so ignorant is hurts to read. Congrats.

wooo hooo off by 1 year, how's my post so ignorant?????
why cause I'm a strong trump supporter and i love every thing he's doing?? specially trying to get rid of the illegal immigrants and making are borders better
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Lord-of-War on Friday, January 26, 2018, 13:39:25 PM
Trump is Helping to Make the Region a Crueller Place
 
 A presidency built on such weak foundations will do little to help little to help any negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians and has already made things worse

By Robert Fisk

There really is no point any more in talking about   Donald Trump  or US foreign policy. They do not exist. Indeed, the Trump “presidency” is about as real as “Palestine”. Both deserve inverted commas although the first fantasy would clearly represent white and largely Christian Americans trying to make their country great again at the expense of lesser creatures, while the second – which is not even a state – obviously qualifies as a Trump “s***hole country”; its people are not exactly white, they are largely Muslim and many seek asylum from the enslavement of the longest military occupation of modern times. For Norway, of course, read Israel.

So in the crazed mind of the booby who thinks he’s running the United States, there’s not much point, surely, in peace between a modern and much loved ally and the third world people forced to live in the manure pits further east and south. Jerusalem is thus the capital of Israel, the Oslo of the Middle East, built on the “green hill far away” – though in the hymn it is supposed to be “without a city wall”. But what the hell? Trump likes walls, and Cecil Frances Alexander, the 19th century Irish hymnodist of “There is a Green Hill Far Away” also wrote “All Things Bright and Beautiful” which surely appeals to the crackpot in the White House who speaks so eloquently about “beautiful babies” (in Syria, when they are dead) and “beautiful weapons” (in Riyadh, before they have killed any babies).

In fact, to talk about Trump’s Middle East, it’s necessary to enter the lunatic asylum. After all, “Palestine” does not qualify as a state and Israel, which does, has not the slightest idea where its eastern border lies geographically. In the middle of Jerusalem? Halfway across the Palestinian West Bank? Along the entire length of the Jordan river? And what about poor Gaza? When the Israelis bombed the place to bits in 2008-2009 (they did the same again in 2012 and 2014), they dropped munitions on the Palestinian sewage system and contaminated both drinking water and the sea with … Oh well, yes, of course, they turned part of Gaza, quite literally, into a s***hole.
Not even Jared Kushner, the beloved son-in-law and real estate magnate and dealmaker supreme – a woeful Dickensian hero, if ever there was one – can work out the dimensions of this particular Middle East property or, for that matter, either part of it. Since, along with the US ambassador to Israel, Kushner supports the Jewish colonisation of the Arab West Bank – and, believe me, there are no s***holes on those hilltop settlements – even he will not be able to tell us exactly where the eastern border of Israel runs, or may run or will run, eternally and forever and ever, Amen.

And that’s the problem, I fear, for the crank in the Oval Office. Much of the world is a land of “vapours” – the kind that supposedly affected your brain (Trump might consult Caliban about this) – and apparitions. The Middle East, as we all know, is a place of djinns, ghosts, Crusaders, Saracens, Apocalypses, 12th Imams and Christ figures and bearded men in caves. But all of them have a greater chance of appearing or reappearing in the second year of Trump’s “presidency” than a peace between two states whose physical dimensions are way beyond the comprehension of Jared and his “Kushner Companies”.

Acknowledging all this has a price, of course. Several times, most recently in Dublin, I have pointed out – in discussions about the Middle East, especially after the US claim that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel – that Donald Trump is mad, insane, crackers, and should be in a mental institution. And on each occasion I’ve been reminded – by presenters or producers – that I am not qualified to say this since I am not a medical doctor. I find this strange. If, for example, I had stated that Trump was utterly sane and level-headed, I don’t think I would have been reminded of my lack of medical qualifications. Nor would this have happened if I had described (as I have) Muammar Gaddafi as a lunatic, which he was.

But you have to watch out for those Trumpites who pop up to call you “fake news” and who frighten radio station editors. The media’s continuing respect for “fair play” when discussing a president who is self-evidently a dangerous and racist xenophobe (as opposed, for example, to the Arab variety) should one day be examined. Gaddafi, mad. Ahmedinejad, mad. Abu Nidal, mad. Saddam, mad. But try that on Trump and, hem hem, you’ll have to produce your general practitioner’s certificate to make any such aspersion abut this infantile person.

So let’s not be fooled. Trump, in whatever fantastical, delusional form, is making the Middle East a more brutal and cruel place, and will continue to do so, aided by his ever-smiling, ever hopeless son-in-law and his clutch of generals – “Mad Dog” Mattis did not earn his nickname because of his military wisdom, and his conviction that Iranian Shiites rather than Iraqi Sunnis messed up America’s plans in post-invasion Iraq suggests that he is dangerously emotional rather than professionally rational. It’s easy to convince oneself that very odd soldiers – chaps who ride across the Rubicon, capture Moscow when it’s on fire or wear moustaches after serving as Unteroffiziers on the Western Front – don’t really have much influence on history.

The Arabs know all about the power of soldiers. Remember Colonel Nasser and Colonel Gaddafi, Colonel Ali Abdullah Saleh, Air Force Commander Assad and Air Chief Marshal Mubarak and former Second Lieutenant Sadat and Field Marshal al-Sisi? Three were assassinated, two died of heart attacks and two more are joyfully still with us. Of course, they all live or lived in nations which Trump would presumably categorise as “s***hole countries”. But at least they weren’t all fantasists.

This article was originally published by  The Independent  -
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Koden on Friday, January 26, 2018, 18:36:28 PM
wooo hooo off by 1 year, how's my post so ignorant?????
why cause I'm a strong trump supporter and i love every thing he's doing?? specially trying to get rid of the illegal immigrants and making are borders better

Look...i understand illegal immigration is a problem...but the wall doesn't seem to be the solution. It won't help these people, it's going to cost a fortune, and...do you realize how much 3145kms (1954 miles) are? How are they going to actually patrol the whole border 24/7 any better than they already do? The border currently already has wall-like structures for most of its length. Building a taller and tougher wall will not stop people from trying to get in. Perhaps it will slow them down, but at what cost...

Besides, has Trump ever heard about the Berlin wall?
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Alex on Friday, January 26, 2018, 19:03:58 PM
wooo hooo off by 1 year, how's my post so ignorant?????
why cause I'm a strong trump supporter and i love every thing he's doing?? specially trying to get rid of the illegal immigrants and making are borders better

No, I was not talking about your support of a piece of shit human being. Your post was ignorant by suggesting that younger people shouldn't care about politics. That would definitely be convenient for all the old republicans trying to screw over as much of the younger generation as they can to fill their own pockets.

Trump is quite literally anti freedom. He's gone after the media like no other president (of course aside from the media that he agrees with), he tried to fire someone who is investigating his shady dealing with Russia. He won't even visit allies because their citizens would protest how big of a piece of shit he is. Yes, he is not going to visit an ally (the UK in this instance) due to peaceful protests. He even said so to the British PM. What a fucking joke. Leader of the free world my ass.

And I'm not even going to get into the sexual assault accusations, the paying off pornstars and strippers, his 3 bankruptcies while being all about "business", his speeches of absolute nonsese, his constant lying, his failure to broker a deal to prevent the government shutdown, his lack of condemning nazis and racists, the list goes on.
And what about how he goes golfing every week or on vacation to his own properties LITERALLY siphoning millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars into his own companies?
or what about his random Twitter tantrums attacking other people? What kind of president attacks his own citizens?

But sure, feel free to continue to worry about latinos sneaking into our country and "dreamers" who contribute more to our society than Trump ever will, and just ignore the moron in the white house trying to tear the country apart. That's exactly what he wants you to do. Wikid's post even proves this, he mentions only illegal immigration (which  is essentially not even a real problem in terms of how much it costs the country) but fails to mention all of Trump's attacks on our freedom. Guess who signed the renewal of the NSA warrantless surveillance bill? Your man boy infant Trump.

It is absolutely baffling how he has somehow conned a large group of people into thinking he's serving in their best interest while fucking them over in broad daylight. He plays on racist and nationalist pride so they ignore how he's actually screwing the working class over.
Title: Re: What you think of Trump just curious
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 06:02:25 AM
Lives in a small world. need help all the way till end of presidential period :)
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