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To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 00:39:31 AM »
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Approximately 700 IP-addresses of BitTorrent users who allegedly shared a copy of ‘The Hurt locker’ have been submitted to the Washington D.C. District Court. The public court records show that nearly all IPs in the group were tracked from the last week of April until the first week of May.

Little more than a week ago the makers of The Hurt Locker filed a complaint against the first 5,000 ‘unidentified’ BitTorrent users. Helped by the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG), the film makers are requesting the personal details connected to the IP-addresses that allegedly shared the film on BitTorrent.

The first batch of IP-addresses (copy below) has now been submitted to the Court, linked to customers of over a dozen US Internet providers. Besides the IP-address and the time when the alleged infringement was recorded the document reveals very little evidence. It is unclear from the current details what file was tracked and whether the evidence gathering techniques will stand up to scrutiny.

The D.C District Court will now have to decide whether or not the ISPs of the alleged infringers will be ordered to hand over the personal information of the users associated with the IP-addresses. If this happens, the customers who are identified will receive a settlement offer of $2,500. Through this scheme, the USCG and Hurt Lockers’ makers hope to collect millions of dollars in revenue, beating their box office earnings.

It’s interesting to note that none of the IP-addresses in this first batch are linked to Time Warner customers. The ISP in question is the only one that is standing up against the money grab, as it went to court hoping to prevent a subpoena that will force them to expose hundreds of customers to the USCG. Time Warner claims that this process would prove too time consuming.

A problem that has been overlooked by most of the press and expert comments is the fact that there will be dozens of wrongfully accused people. Through similar cases in the UK we’ve learned that the evidence provided by the copyright holders is very flaky to say the least. We suspect that the USCG, which appears to be a two man operation, is simply out to collect as much money as possible through settlements and will avoid taking individual cases to court.

Besides The Hurt Locker, USCG is working together with smaller film companies in similar campaigns, and they are looking for new clients to expand their profitable business. This success story has not gone unnoticed by their UK equivalent ACS:LAW who have announced they will also enter the US market. In the UK this scheme has been labeled a scam by politicians, while its lawyers are accused of “harassment, bullying and intrusion” and “legal blackmail”.

http://torrentfreak.com/ip-addresses-of-first-hurt-locker-victims-revealed-100609/

Doesn't belong in the Art Lounge but I'll post it under movies. If you torrented The Hurt Locker and seeded it, I'd suggest checking the list in the link for your IP address. Gooooood luck, I'm not on the list. Maybe reset your router millions of times and hide under your bed with the lights off for a few weeks if you are?
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #1 on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 00:46:13 AM »
Expect a lot of the people to not be found because there are still a remarkable amount of people on dynamic DSL. Their IP would fluctuate throughout the day and it's a bitch to find them.



Hmm, actually looking at the list I just thought of something. This data would actually be useful in a way. We could organize the data to see what span of torrenters have certain ISPs. I saw plenty on Comcast, Cox, and Earthlink.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #2 on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 00:53:55 AM »
Haha. My thoughts exactly Blue. Like me, I have to pay to have a static IP but I would imagine everyone else on my ISP would have dynamic IP's. I would imagine most IP's are derived dynamically, it's a very effective way of managing them, IMO.

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Honestly, it’s not even worth downloading for free. Terrible film.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #3 on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 01:28:57 AM »
I'm still allowed to be scared though because I have no idea how IPs or the like work. Or anything else mentioned on this here.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #4 on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 02:11:37 AM »
They are going to be very lucky to get this any were near court. Its funny they are using scare tactics to try and scare people who may or may not have downloaded this movie into paying a 2,500 settlement. If it was me I would take it to court get it thrown out for lack of evidence and counter sue for all they are worth. Dirty rotten bastages.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #5 on: Friday, June 11, 2010, 02:27:50 AM »
I'll go on a bit of a tangent here.

I really see both sides of this. It is absolutely wrong for people to steal content. The film makers deserve and depend on the money they make and pirating cuts into that profit. Pirating will never kill paid content because there ARE honest people that may torrent and if they enjoy it, they will support it. Programs that let you pay what you want show this. Is pirating bad? You bet. Will it go away? Nope, and neither will the extremes on BOTH sides of the argument. If they really wanted to slow the damage that pirating does, they would go after the release groups. It seems like they go after individual downloaders which that's fine but for every 1 you fine/jail, there's easily another 100 to take their place. The bottom line, both sides need to calm down before the extremes go too far.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #6 on: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:27:23 AM »
The biggest problem is some thing like 90% of people who pirate wouldn't buy the content any way. So what they are loosing out on is potential sales.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 15:45:50 PM »
if they have the i.p and date of the seeding (as it states) they can work out who had that i.p during that time period

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Does anyone know if that open WiFi defense from awhile back still works?  Like back in the day when people were still on Kazaa and other shitty p2p, if you got a court summons or something, having a open WiFi access point in your home helped your defense enough to get some shit dismissed.

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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 15:52:12 PM »
I doubt claiming ignorance would work. It's your account, your equipment, your responsibility. If the WiFi thing did work, I would assume saying it was your 5 year old kid would work as well.
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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 18:27:55 PM »
No one can prove if you know or don't know how to keep your wifi public or private. I guess it would work if you say you only know how to connect the wires.

These days though, people can come up with almost anything in defense to computers. Theres some truly stupid people out there.



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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 19:30:31 PM »
I don't think it's enough for a criminal defense, where the plaintiff/prosecution actually want to go to court and whatnot... but for civil suits involving the RIAA/MPAA, I think it's enough to scare em off.  Typically, the RIAA/MPAA doesn't want to go to court and instead relies on scare tactics to scare money out of people.

But outside of empornium, I don't seed so I guess that helps.  Why is it that the industry that seems to lose the most from internet piracy -- the porn industry -- isn't the one going after people?  Like I know some people who still pay for music and movies, but NO ONE pays for porn.  Even back when we had to download a 1MB WAV file and fap to a animated gif.  (I can't be the only one)

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Re: To Seeders of The Hurt Locker
« Reply #11 on: Thursday, July 01, 2010, 14:02:23 PM »
I was roaming on Wikipedia and thought I would share this tidbit as a reply to Crunk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Piggybacking
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Recreational logging and mapping of other people's access points has become known as wardriving. It is also common for people to use open (unencrypted) Wi-Fi networks as a free service, termed piggybacking. Indeed, many access points are intentionally installed without security turned on so that they can be used as a free service. Providing access to one's Internet connection in this fashion may breach the Terms of Service or contract with the ISP. These activities do not result in sanctions in most jurisdictions; however, legislation and case law differ considerably across the world. A proposal to leave graffiti describing available services was called[by whom?] warchalking. A Florida court case determined that owner laziness was not to be a valid excuse.[52]

So, possibly against your ISP's TOS and may not hold up in court.
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