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Title: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 24, 2012, 20:28:31 PM
Since I'm loading up Hospital to try and fix that glitch, I'm wondering about the VIP. I've seen people comment about it that it sucks to have so little health. Should this be changed? He starts with 33 out of 100 health points which puts him at the top of red health. I don't think he should have more than 70 HP, I mean, the guy was just operated on and is missing an eye...
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Archeh on Friday, February 24, 2012, 21:36:16 PM
Yeah make it so his feet don't trust touch (edit: why did I write trust?) the ground and his legs don't move, he just kinda floats around with his mouth open in bewilderment.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 24, 2012, 21:38:10 PM
I say don't change his health. That's the whole point of the map. People still play the shit out of Hospital anyways. Don't fix what isn't broken. :P
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 24, 2012, 22:28:48 PM
I could try to strap him to a wheelchair so a teammate has to wheel him out.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 24, 2012, 22:36:25 PM
I could try to strap him to a wheelchair so a teammate has to wheel him out.
lol. Ambush gets to the VIP room much faster than escort though, so that wouldn't really work.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Yahoo on Friday, February 24, 2012, 22:43:46 PM
Please don't do deep changes on the game! There is a difference between make it better and loss identity.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Koden on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 04:21:50 AM
The issue here is that if you change his health status to a better one, he will also be able to move faster, and that's not really a good thing since he can already rush from the operating room to the helicopter roof in about 45 seconds. Ambush would start to have some problems if he can rush in 30/35 seconds, because that would mean that the vip would be already almost out of reach for every m203 drop shot they could afford and almost out of reach even if they were running towards him.

I could try to strap him to a wheelchair so a teammate has to wheel him out.

What a fancy idea :D
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Koden on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 07:01:15 AM
made inbetween rounds of league of legends
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F7352483%2FAmericas%2520Army%2Fhosp.png&hash=72b2c8632db4a1dc936a1e1ded1418cb)

lmao :D that would be epic
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 08:34:12 AM
Is there any way to give him more healh but keep him red?
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Koden on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 09:01:41 AM
Is there any way to give him more healh but keep him red?

Nope, as Spanky said he's at 33, top red health level. Actually he's not as close as death as many often say, he still has 1/3 of his health, he just moves slowly.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 09:51:29 AM
Ok cauz it's health is not really the point I think, if it ranges between 33 or 50, just his speed. Although I rarely play hospital i think he should stay red ...
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Go_Cat75 on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 08:16:32 AM
Please don't do deep changes on the game! There is a difference between make it better and loss identity.

For the love of God leave the Game play alone...
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Jonnym on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 08:20:25 AM
Dont worry, these guys like to share creative ideas but i'm the one who ultimately decides what gets released and i won't allow anything like this to get through. I'm here to protect the integrity of the game.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Jared on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 13:58:36 PM
no health but may 1 clip of ammo?
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Koden on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 14:15:50 PM
no health but may 1 clip of ammo?

? The vip currently has already an ammo clip along with the Ak74. Maybe you meant more ammo?
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 15:53:11 PM
*rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage*

Just a question... jeez.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 15:58:23 PM
That's why I don't participate in these kind of topics.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 16:01:05 PM
Quote from Skrewy on MSN that fits pretty good:
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skrewy: hey guys do u think vip should be changed? I could do it if u want, hey I'll create a poll for u guys if your interested
skrewy: * 1 day later
skrewy: FUCK U DONT FUCKING TOUCH VIP
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 16:02:15 PM
i won't allow anything like this to get through.

Even if the community agrees on it?
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Jonnym on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 16:06:32 PM
There would have to be a large turn out and the votes would have to be significantly in favor to start altering the 'sacred' maps in they way sugguested here.
tho fixing bugs is fine.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 16:09:40 PM
Ah, I agree with that then. I don't want to spend time changing something unless the people want it. I don't want to come here one day and read threads upon threads of people bitching and moaning about gameplay being changed. You know they will :)
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Alex on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:15:26 PM
Even if the community agrees on it?
AAO25.com users aren't even 1/6 of the current AA community. It would be stupid to use a poll on here as the decision of the community.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:19:38 PM
-_- well it's their own fault for not wanting to be part of the community and help improve things.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:21:23 PM
Their "clans" are too important to come here.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Alex on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:22:29 PM
In my opinion, which is pretty much worth nothing seeing as I don't do shit around here, you shouldn't edit any of the regular AA maps. Someone is always going to bitch about a change. They won't bitch about something staying the same though. :P
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:25:27 PM
Dem bugfixes.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Alex on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:26:33 PM
 
Dem bugfixes.
Fixing bugs isn't really altering the map.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:26:59 PM
Hooray!


I just noticed this was the VIP topic. I really need to stop using the recent posts block on the home page.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 21:40:55 PM
Funny to see people actually voted for 70 health.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Go_Cat75 on Monday, February 27, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
lol. Ambush gets to the VIP room much faster than escort though, so that wouldn't really work.
Not exactually correct and most times the answer would be no and at all times escort can always stop ambush from getting to the vip with the VIP's assistance if you know how to play the map.

AAO25.com users aren't even 1/6 of the current AA community. It would be stupid to use a poll on here as the decision of the community.

I think this has as much chance changing as K Rudd getting back in as PM,
So Just listen too me :) ..  The Map is 100% fine - both sides are well balanced and one of the most strategical map I have played where team work is necessary otherwise the round will end quickly with the VIP dying.  There are many ways to play this map from both sides to win.  It is finely balanced and tuned that allow multiple strategy's and counter strategy's to make this map exciting as it is.  Changing one thing could ultimately change the gameplay of this map for ever.

Just Don't do it: 

I can't say this for allot of maps but I can for this one as my Experience and Stats on SF Hospital kinda speaks for themselves.
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Koden on Monday, February 27, 2012, 12:44:52 PM
I've always felt both teams meet in that operating room at about the same time (within a second)
vip just has to find a nice comfy closet before then, or hide behind a nurse...
on that idea what about if nate finds a way to take the nurse's as human shields, just like hitman
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giantbomb.com%2Fuploads%2F0%2F1550%2F201623-hmbmx360pic2.jpg&hash=2f26dc7718a28c7b93544010d460512c)

Lol, the idea of using a person as a shield and making for huge loads of roe scores. Oh wait, campers do that already  :(

If the AI was working decently we could set NPCs (civilians) to avoid sticking in one place or to provide cover.

Yep the teams can theorically meet in the operation room (taking out m203 dropshots and letting them run to it).
Title: Re: Hospital VIP
Post by: Calevey on Monday, February 27, 2012, 19:11:02 PM
Nothing to add really - don't make any changes to VIP's health, it's good as it is.