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America's Army => mAAp Project => Topic started by: JunK on Friday, March 30, 2012, 15:03:37 PM

Title: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Friday, March 30, 2012, 15:03:37 PM
Hey AA-Fans!

What i've seen in-game on 2.5 version the U.S Army soldiers is using the old camo, like the woodland and desert camo. Like you all guys know: the U.S army is using right now a new kind of camo called DIGITAL CAMO. Do you guys to vote on the poll? Maybe we can change the camo then in-game.

Hooah!

*EDIT* -Spanky
Quick and dirty, here's what the difference is in real life. Someone else feel free to find in-game images.
Digital:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Frf%2Fimage_982w%2F2010-2019%2FWashingtonPost%2F2012%2F03%2F02%2FStyle%2FImages%2F10001001H733544.jpg&hash=86d5e16a81e53f906ffce0b6501b84ed)

Woodland:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Ft%2FM-65-Field-Jacket-Woodland-Camo-US-Army-Marine-Corps-Air-Force-Navy-USMC-USN-LG-%2F00%2Fs%2FMTEyNVgxMTI1%2F%24%28KGrHqIOKpEE5Y%2BsEhqTBOYWVlfusQ%7E%7E60_57.JPG&hash=239ef0cdde040366d787622fdbbff3c3)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Friday, March 30, 2012, 15:13:43 PM
There is already a topic on this. You made it....
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Friday, March 30, 2012, 15:42:04 PM
yeah but without poll.. so right now there is a poll included. :)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Friday, March 30, 2012, 18:37:33 PM
I voted digital, even though it's more work. I'll make a news post on this so people can come here and vote.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Friday, March 30, 2012, 18:51:56 PM
There is already a topic on this. You made it....

I told him to make a poll.



BTW Junk, put images or screenshots in the first post with example of original camo, and digi camo. It's easier for people to look at a picture than to think :D
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: gRay^- on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 01:14:24 AM
The last few versions of AA2 had digital camo if I'm not mistaken. Looked pretty dope, I would be all for it if the devs felt up to it.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Jonnym on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 02:53:16 AM
I am really against changing anything core to the game in terms of skins. If I wanted to play with digital camo I would go to 2.8.5.

no you would'nt, its fucking dead.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 03:51:28 AM
I told him to make a poll.



BTW Junk, put images or screenshots in the first post with example of original camo, and digi camo. It's easier for people to look at a picture than to think :D

I don't know how to add picture's to my post. btw spanky edited my post and added some picture's about the digital camo and the woodland camo.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Koden on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 04:06:19 AM
Truth to be told, i like the "old" woodland/forest camo more than the digi one. On a second thought, there are many more camos available in this version than the woodland camo anyway (e.g. arctic).

P.s. i just noticed you wrote Woodland/desert in the poll description, lol.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Calevey on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
In-game pics would be better than those. If I have to choose from those pics - old school it is.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Koden on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 08:45:26 AM
In-game pics would be better than those.

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[img]http://www.sasfclan.com/forum/public/style_images/warrior/_backgrounds/americas-army3.jpg[/img]
Digi camo:

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sasfclan.com%2Fforum%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_images%2Fwarrior%2F_backgrounds%2Famericas-army3.jpg&hash=d8f9cb8af804269a187657fb283cfded)

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ngohq.com%2Fattachments%2Fgames%2F1905d1240667751-america-s-army-3-0-vs-2-x-comparisons-highres_screenshot_00005.jpg&hash=b26f4d5a5e43f2feff203849ec43580d)

Woodland Camo:

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpcmedia.ign.com%2Fpc%2Fimage%2Farticle%2F616%2F616010%2Famericas-army-20050518115130264.jpg&hash=f3545fd39f7979d98c3b7b1e4eed0ef3)

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_iCb5kw9O7hY%2FSzoDOVy0V1I%2FAAAAAAAACc4%2FAGBUT_Yzo6o%2Fs1600%2FAmericas%2BArmy.jpg&hash=71bd7e4cf6b85713f987755653b05073)

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftweakers.net%2Fext%2Fi%2F1022539587.jpg&hash=3633ca549cfda1bdab9ae1a8c3521bfd)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Calevey on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 10:10:30 AM
Thank you for the better pics. I'll stick to the old look, but I don't have any problems if you guys want to change them.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: ifingo on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 11:00:21 AM
I would go with the new. See, I'm all for "What if the DEVS instead of going all-new-gameplay in 3.x version just made a few adjustments in 2.x version with a new/old engine?". To make it fresh. To change the game (to make it better) instead of the gameplay.

I'm all for the new.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Koden on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 11:51:48 AM
I would go with the new. See, I'm all for "What if the DEVS instead of going all-new-gameplay in 3.x version just made a few adjustments in 2.x version with a new/old engine?". To make it fresh. To change the game (to make it better) instead of the gameplay.

I'm all for the new.

America's Army in its 2.00 version was released in November 2003, and last patched in April 2009. Considering that is a quite wide live support timelapse for a game, the game actually reached a certain maturity around 2.5 or maybe 2.6.

AA3 probably was in development at least since a couple years before, and by 2009 AA2 reached many limits due to its age. Also, AA2 has some technical limits that are bounded to the software age, and while the engine was probably a powerful tool back in 2003, as of today it's simply outdated in many ways (one of the most obvious ones is the higher load on cpu, due to a low use of the graphic processor power).

Lucky enough, what matters is not just how the game performs but how it actually feels when being played. So, i can't blame the Army for stopping developing AA2 (i would just blame them for stopping supporting it). Blaming over AA3 poor gameplay...well it's going to be 3 years old in July, something has changed, just not as deep as expected. Oh, they made the game actually playable, kudos for that [/sarcasm]

P.s. try take a look at AA3 poor characters animations, then look at the decent, AA2 ones. I can't find one animation that looks natural in AA3. The whole character body seems to be connected in a wierd way...
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Saturday, March 31, 2012, 22:39:40 PM
Skrewy, we have already established that it's possible a while ago, that's why there is a poll.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Koden on Sunday, April 01, 2012, 05:42:39 AM
I'm too hxc to read posts, and in the ones I did read u where all like screenshots from AA3 and AA3 this and I was like, aa2 that aa2 this and spanky wasnt online and I know he missed me, and then I was like aa2 digimon camo this

:D lolz.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Sunday, April 01, 2012, 06:06:31 AM
Truth to be told, i like the "old" woodland/forest camo more than the digi one. On a second thought, there are many more camos available in this version than the woodland camo anyway (e.g. arctic).

P.s. i just noticed you wrote Woodland/desert in the poll description, lol.

DIGI camo have also more colors what i've seen. The Dutch Army is gonna use in a few years a new digital camo color, here a link:  http://www.tangodown.nl/forum/thread-2218.html
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: bRn on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 14:46:03 PM
dont try to look the game better..delete useless maps like mountain pass SE, bridge SE, taiga, arctic, blizzard, village etc etc .. some of those maps have servers that nobody will play it anyday..if u delete them, they will have to pick maps that people play, making every1 addicted to AA again.

aa25assist was an awesome idea, GJ and now please, if u can control the game, then make what the dev's didnt...listen to community and improve gameplay and competition..

keep the good work, every1 will comeback for sure
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 15:14:41 PM
dont try to look the game better..delete useless maps like mountain pass SE, bridge SE, taiga, arctic, blizzard, village etc etc .. some of those maps have servers that nobody will play it anyday..if u delete them, they will have to pick maps that people play, making every1 addicted to AA again.

aa25assist was an awesome idea, GJ and now please, if u can control the game, then make what the dev's didnt...listen to community and improve gameplay and competition..

keep the good work, every1 will comeback for sure

If you really think those maps should be removed, start your own poll and get people to come here and vote. If it's popular, we will do it.

Personally I think it's a fucking stupid idea but let's see what the community thinks.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Calevey on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 16:22:22 PM
Wow, amazing idea to delete all "useless" maps and decide what ppl "want" to play. That probably keeps the community and AA alive.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 16:28:08 PM
If you really think those maps should be removed, start your own poll and get people to come here and vote. If it's popular, we will do it.

Personally I think it's a fucking stupid idea but let's see what the community thinks.
I think that is a terrible idea. I feel that as the people who ultimately control the fate of the game you have some responsibility to keep its integrity and not give in to the noobs who play nothing but Urban, WC, and IC. These suggestions shouldn't even make it to a poll.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 16:35:05 PM
Taiga is a pretty badass map. I'm willing to bet the people who don't like the other maps only looked at the screenshot.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 17:04:13 PM
Why would you even bother about thinking of deleting or making unusable maps content that aside of its quality also makes for variety? Content that already resides on your hdd once you install AA 2.5...

Quite a big nono.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 17:53:35 PM
I think that is a terrible idea.

I do too but we should be fair and democratic with suggestions from users.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: bRn on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 08:16:00 AM
i dont mean to decide what people wants to play but i often used to see servers empty on AA2 on maps like recon, taiga and when there was players playing on it it was a pub 3v3 or 4v4.. i like bridge SE, i like arctic, very good cenarios and briefings but will u ever see a TWL-I final on Arctic ? or blizzard ? they probably wont even show up in regular season map list..people like the oldschool maps..
have you ever been msged on MSN scrim account saying: scrim 4v4 recon?
HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 12:33:57 PM
not give in to the noobs who play nothing but Urban, WC, and IC. These suggestions shouldn't even make it to a poll.

Strange how u didn't mention Bridge, the most hated map by u all :D
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 12:34:29 PM
Strange how u didn't mention Bridge, the most hated map by u all :D
Bridge is a given though.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: bRn on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 13:53:01 PM
im not the one who is going to decide, nowhere near..we are a community..it was an idea, a thought, not appreciated by any of u
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 14:15:03 PM
im not the one who is going to decide, nowhere near..we are a community..it was an idea, a thought, not appreciated by any of u
Why would such a thing be appreciated? Getting rid of variety is not going to do anything. There are plenty of empty servers on popular maps. The maps aren't the problem.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 16:30:44 PM
Yes it really is a strange idea. I mean do you have problems with those maps? Do they scare people away? Perhaps they could be useless sometimes, but that's no reason for deleting them o.O
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: bRn on Thursday, April 05, 2012, 17:23:49 PM
major skrewup, ur trying to flame me but i am not going in ur wave.. aa2 was all about creating drama but if it depends on me, that won't happen again so stop acting like a badass inet gangsta
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
btw when you guys will upload to the game new camo?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Jonnym on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 08:39:10 AM
i'm up for updating the camo, if spanky knows how?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
I would have to investigate ripping the 2.8 player skins and importing them into 2.5 and seeing how they line up. It could be as simple as that or we might have to create skins in photoshop from scratch which would be a bitch.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Vanoke on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 14:58:28 PM
I look to the pictures i prefer digital camo, I'm curious how border will look in digital. however  in AA3 the visibility to find the enemy is more difficult than to find one in woodland/desert camo style. If it is nothing that digital hope we can vote to turn it back. 
greating Vanoke
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 16:41:08 PM
If someone can give me the utx texture files or the dds files for the character skins I can try it.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, April 07, 2012, 19:11:29 PM
Uploading the 2 T-Characters from 2.8 to dropbox dev folder now. It's 121MB o.O
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Monday, April 09, 2012, 04:05:54 AM
I'll get to it at some point, school has been keeping me busy.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Jared on Monday, April 09, 2012, 09:55:21 AM
if we need a custom one hit me up
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: JunK on Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 16:31:20 PM
some news about the camo guys? how's it going?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 16:45:21 PM
Havent touched anything AA related because I have a lot of other stuff to do first.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 17:04:06 PM
Havent touched anything AA related because I have a lot of other stuff to do first.

Same here except I probably won't work on AA for a while. I've lost interest. Life is keeping me busy enough, I don't need to spend time making things for a game I don't even enjoy playing.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: -puma- on Saturday, April 14, 2012, 14:58:06 PM
My vote goes for the new one 8)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Saturday, April 28, 2012, 20:23:51 PM
I had a quick look at this yesterday because I had the time. It is possible to quickly and easily change the current forest (maps like Weapons Cache, River Basin, etc) and desert (maps like Border, Urban Assault, etc) camo. America's Army 2.8 only had forest digi camo. I can add forest and desert digi camo.

Digi camo for SF maps need a little bit more work because they don't use the same textures and character models.

If I work on anything I'll add pictures here.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Archeh on Saturday, April 28, 2012, 20:49:42 PM
good to hear, this'll be interesting
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 00:40:59 AM
Not sure if I posted this already but it's highly relevant. Me, in AA, in a hawaiian shirt, in a mario map:

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2FImages%2FMe%2Fb8823b59684dc4fc3906a4ea57b521f8af97d147.png&hash=84facbbfa9a241dc96af5c6a25459664)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: pit-23 on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 02:47:02 AM
This is freaky stuff :-D.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
Not sure if I posted this already but it's highly relevant. Me, in AA, in a hawaiian shirt, in a mario map:

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2FImages%2FMe%2Fb8823b59684dc4fc3906a4ea57b521f8af97d147.png&hash=84facbbfa9a241dc96af5c6a25459664)

30 years old justin bieber ? :P
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: pit-23 on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:41:59 AM
30 years old justin bieber ? :P

That would be too normal :-D.

It is 30 years old justin bieber, who travelled back in time, then raped young michael jackson (that's why he later developed issues), then travelled forward in time, then killed chuck norris, ripped his face skin off, and put on his own head... That's what we see in this picture, this is really sick and nasty beast :-DDDD
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:44:33 AM
are tubes in the mario map usable lol?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:45:56 AM
wasnt this the beginning of the project with that voice lip movement and u had the guy singing the song?

lol yeah that was me

are tubes in the mario map usable lol?

They were usable :D
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:49:49 AM
lol yeah that was me

They were usable :D

I want to enter in these Spanky holes
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:50:01 AM
That would be too normal :-D.

It is 30 years old justin bieber, who travelled back in time, then raped young michael jackson (that's why he later developed issues), then travelled forward in time, then killed chuck norris, ripped his face skin off, and put on his own head... That's what we see in this picture, this is really sick and nasty beast :-DDDD

Where did you come up with a story like that? Someone needs therapy :P
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: pit-23 on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:53:36 AM
Where did you come up with a story like that? Someone needs therapy :P

I just invented it... OK, you won, i go to the therapy :-DDD
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 03:59:40 AM
I want to enter in these Spanky holes

When Spanky made the map we both thought a 2d platform map would be fun to play. We never made it. We always come up with ideas for puzzle based maps but never make them :P
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 15:50:54 PM
It is 30 years old justin bieber, who travelled back in time, then raped young michael jackson (that's why he later developed issues), then travelled forward in time, then killed chuck norris, ripped his face skin off, and put on his own head... That's what we see in this picture, this is really sick and nasty beast :-DDDD

I want to enter in these Spanky holes

You guys flatter me too much.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: -Dave- on Sunday, May 06, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
why i cant vote?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 06, 2012, 12:41:28 PM
Voting is closed. The majority voted yes, now we just need a dev that's not busy (lazy) to implement it.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Alex on Sunday, May 06, 2012, 21:14:22 PM
or a member of the community to do the texture work and then ask a dev to test/impliment it?
We already have the textures though.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, May 13, 2012, 19:51:55 PM
Partially complete. Left is woodland camo, middle & right are desert camo. Woodland and SF are not finished. The SF skins take more work.

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FB98SA.jpg&hash=8360c05a4fe9a43e4db496ae90db06a7)
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 13, 2012, 20:13:09 PM
Damn! Making me jealous with those skills :D Looks great.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, May 13, 2012, 20:19:32 PM
Nice work!
I have a question, this use a diferrent texture file or will update the existing one?
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, May 13, 2012, 20:20:42 PM
So far this has been updating T-Characters.utx.
Title: Re: DIGITAL CAMO or WOODLAND/DESERTCAMO
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, May 13, 2012, 20:24:40 PM
So far this has been updating T-Characters.utx.

ok, good lucky editing SF skins for 2.5 :)
hah, will take hours (2 or 3) to update assist here lol, internet was reduced :(