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America's Army => mAAp Project => Topic started by: Spanky on Saturday, January 28, 2012, 18:57:56 PM
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Just a little something we're playing with right now;
http://youtu.be/lPjHFQracC8?hd=1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjHFQracC8[/youtube]
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I don't really like it. I'm not a big fan of using bloom effects in general. Most games with them I turn them off. It makes everything seems too bright and unrealistic sometimes.
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I like it. Even if it's not an accurate lighting, it makes things appear less "flat" . Everything seems to be enlightened in a more soft/progressive way.
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Of course we're not noob enough to plop it on everything without tweaking it.
It seems on big budget games that devs are lazy or dumb or something (or maybe don't have time) and don't refine the game's look. I'm pretty sure this has lead to opinions like killa's which is perfectly valid.
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I don't really like it. I'm not a big fan of using bloom effects in general. Most games with them I turn them off. It makes everything seems too bright and unrealistic sometimes.
Oblivion? That game featured an heavy use of bloom. Nowadays bloom is an old tecnique i guess.
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Oblivion? That game featured an heavy use of bloom. Nowadays bloom is an old tecnique i guess.
Never played Oblivion, but games like Crysis 2 have huge problems with it. Like Blue stated, it's mostly lazy devs trying to cover up shoddy texture and lighting work by over blooming the game. It's used a lot in console games due to the console's limited capabilities.
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Things like bloom though are artistic mostly. A game like Oblivion can use it because it more fantasy than real. Having bloom then is valid because it gives a dreamy look.
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Never played Oblivion, but games like Crysis 2 have huge problems with it. Like Blue stated, it's mostly lazy devs trying to cover up shoddy texture and lighting work by over blooming the game. It's used a lot in console games due to the console's limited capabilities.
Ah yep Crysis 2. Yeah, they make textures for both pc and consoles, no wonder they have to blur the view to cover the mess, lol. I remember, back then fog was also used to visually put a limit over the area that had to be rendered. By today they just let you set the degree of visual distance that you want - or can - render.
Things like bloom though are artistic mostly. A game like Oblivion can use it because it more fantasy than real. Having bloom then is valid because it gives a dreamy look.
yeah, i used to disable bloom and run the shaders. It was a bit too dreamy for me.
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I like it. Even if it's not an accurate lighting, it makes things appear less "flat" . Everything seems to be enlightened in a more soft/progressive way.
This. It just makes things look more faded and blended. It almost hides polygons. It is a bit bright but there's craptons of settings for this thing. This was just default.
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I like it.
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I like it.
I don't think you do :) It's a DirectX modification. No OpenGL :(
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An update on the bloom, VendorX found out how to prevent AA from crashing on most maps with it so I loaded Pipeline:
http://youtu.be/tSwilTDJ86A?hd=1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSwilTDJ86A[/youtube]
Here's some with and without screenshots as well:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2Faac_maap%2Fscreenshots%2FArmyOps%25202012-02-02%252000-43-17-25.png&hash=885cb157689bc313cb954825a9a2b30c)
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2Faac_maap%2Fscreenshots%2FArmyOps%25202012-02-02%252000-43-12-76.png&hash=c616175be3c489c1bfcb504a2ab8a66d)
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2Faac_maap%2Fscreenshots%2FArmyOps%25202012-02-02%252000-44-13-61.png&hash=3059279f28b4fa2bf97b296d9f67d7c9)
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2Faac_maap%2Fscreenshots%2FArmyOps%25202012-02-02%252000-44-15-69.png&hash=fcd4b3bd6cb0ce0d844aef66ec65abec)
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F464376%2Faac_maap%2Fscreenshots%2FArmyOps%25202012-02-02%252000-46-29-47.png&hash=2edebc83d29450078e03da5bf52957cd)
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Me Encanta! Good work love how that map looks with the bloom in it....
this will make the maps look so much better and diffident.
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Would there be a way to turn it off?
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Would there be a way to turn it off?
Party Pooper Killaman is back. It's just a copying of files. I'm not even sure it will make it into Assist. There's issues with Distance Fog cutting in and out as well as the fact that Linux and Mac users can't use this. On the positive side, VendorX e-mailed the original dev since he's still active. Maybe he'll make a custom DirectX and OpenGL version that is less buggy :)
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Party Pooper Killaman is back. It's just a copying of files. I'm not even sure it will make it into Assist. There's issues with Distance Fog cutting in and out as well as the fact that Linux and Mac users can't use this. On the positive side, VendorX e-mailed the original dev since he's still active. Maybe he'll make a custom DirectX and OpenGL version that is less buggy :)
Party pooper? That was a legitimate question. Most games you can turn bloom off. I wasn't sure how it was going to be implemented in AA. I do think it looks bad though. It lightens everything up and blurs a bit for no reason at all.
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You're more than welcome to make it look more realistic:
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um, not sure why you posted that. I never said I could do anything about it. I also never said you should make it more realistic, just that I didn't like it and wanted to know it you could turn it off in the settings.
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On my screen all of the images looks nice except for Urban Assault where the sky is kinda blinding me...but the fault is part due to my RF511 laptop screen which is unbalanced for brightness against contrast (poor manifacturer practice by Samsung).
lol, i think Killa just asked a legitimate question, visuals are made of a share of personal taste, so e.g. probably my finer more subtle details settings might not everyone else's ones.
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My point is that there's tons of options to try. I can supply you with the mod and instructions if you want to help find something you think is enjoyable. As for turning it off and on, it could easily be a checkbox in Assist.
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As for turning it off and on, it could easily be a checkbox in Assist.
That is exactly what I wanted to know. :)
As for editing the bloom mod, I have no idea what 3/4 of that stuff even means. :P I'd be changing random setting and putting in random numbers.
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As for editing the bloom mod, I have no idea what 3/4 of that stuff even means. :P I'd be changing random setting and putting in random numbers.
Then we have the same knowledge because that's about all I can do :)