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Community => The Lounge => Hardware/Software => Topic started by: eKC0mm on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 12:09:04 PM

Title: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: eKC0mm on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 12:09:04 PM
I'm looking at this budget sound card. I have heard many good things about it from other gamers looking for quality with a good price. What do you guys think? anyone have experience with this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132053

Theres also some info there about being able to replace the op-amp on the card. What does this mean? Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: KARI-30 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
I had shorty a ASUS Xonar and I had to return it because it didnt work correctly with AA2. But maybe it was just because of my setup.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 13:01:49 PM
I don't have a ton of experience with ASUS cards but I got one for a customer and it was good. I'd say to ignore the opamps for now. Unless you need 7.1 or DTS/Dolby then I'd highly suggest getting something external. There's not a lot of external products at the $60 range but that's not too far off, you could save a bit more and get a nice setup. It's been a while since I've kept up on audio products but as usual, http://head-fi.org has good info :) That said, I really enjoy my Schiit Modi for $100 bucks. USB power, small, simple circuit and it just works, no hassle. You could get one of these and a budget tube headphone amp on eBay.

Kari, if the card was defective, you should have tried a new one.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: KARI-30 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 14:00:13 PM
I didnt know if it was the card or the fact it was AA2 on W7. I went for Xfi to be sure.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 14:02:33 PM
I didnt know if it was the card or the fact it was AA2 on W7. I went for Xfi to be sure.

Either it did or didn't work for all programs/games. Just because you can't hear enemies across the map in AA doesn't mean the sound card is faulty :)
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: eKC0mm on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 14:26:56 PM
I didnt know if it was the card or the fact it was AA2 on W7. I went for Xfi to be sure.

It was W7. The competitive community pretty much stayed with XP because W7 had changed something, i dont know exactly what it was, but people were unable to hear as well.

Anyways, i know people who bought the ASUS Xonar but a couple also got external headphone amps. I just wonder why?
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 14:51:13 PM
Microsoft rebuilt the audio stack to make it better and add an API to allow direct access to the sound device to bypass the system. It absolutely boggles my mind how people constantly have problems with Vista/7/8 audio and AA.

External headphone amps are always a good idea. The reason being is that all drivers (headphones, speakers, etc) need power. They are a physically moving device. Without enough power available, that device cannot perform to it's maximum and that's when you get audio quality loss.

A reason for an external device is that computers are very noisy with many high-frequency sources inside and while there are quality power supplies, they are all switching types and that is very dirty power for analog audio. While the Schiit Modi unit I have is USB powered, it has a filter circuit in it that effectively isolates it.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: KARI-30 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:59:47 PM
Just because you can't hear enemies across the map in AA doesn't mean the sound card is faulty :)

I didnt return the card because I couldnt hear enemies across the map. The reason I returned it was that after every bullet being shot there was a high pitched clicking sound that wouldnt go away, which made it unplayable. And the soundcard has no effect on how far you hear. There are fixed breakpoints inside the game how far you can hear. So no matter what soundcard you have you hear the enemies on the same distance. You only hear clearer with some cards, but the distance is unchanged.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: [K][K].pcqdbt on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 16:19:50 PM
Maybe a second-hand sound card could be also an option. Mine has an EMU10k1 chip, and I bought it for less than 10$.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: 1m50ry on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 16:33:09 PM
kari porad scrimujete?nekdy bych si zahral ale uz ani nevim to ts co mate.jak de ta soutez
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: eKC0mm on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 16:44:24 PM
Spanky, im confused your Schiit Modi is external via USB? I'd almost want to find a creative way to mount it inside my case lol

Im guessing you have the Modi.Would that work well with my AD700's?
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 17:43:04 PM
I didnt return the card because I couldnt hear enemies across the map. The reason I returned it was that after every bullet being shot there was a high pitched clicking sound that wouldnt go away, which made it unplayable. And the soundcard has no effect on how far you hear. There are fixed breakpoints inside the game how far you can hear. So no matter what soundcard you have you hear the enemies on the same distance. You only hear clearer with some cards, but the distance is unchanged.
Ah, then it's defective. You should have given it another shot though :)

Spanky, im confused your Schiit Modi is external via USB? I'd almost want to find a creative way to mount it inside my case lol

Im guessing you have the Modi.Would that work well with my AD700's?
Yes, external. USB in, RCA out. No amplifier, it's just a DAC which is the core of a "sound card". You'd need an amplifier with it. I think Schiit calls theirs the Magna. Just one of many, many, many options. I like it for it's simplicity, driverless, powerless, and pretty low price.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: 1m50ry on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 18:04:34 PM
Spanky, im confused your Schiit Modi

Anything from Schiit cant be any good cmone its Schiit.......


want to find a creative way to mount it inside my case lol

I ll help you find Creative way....its called the X-fi







Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 20:21:04 PM
I ll help you find Creative way....its called the X-fi

Rumor has it that X-Fi stands for eXtremely Fucked Incompetence.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: eKC0mm on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 20:56:09 PM
I have the X-Fi Fatality championship but the card doesn't fit in my PCI slots for some reason.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 21:27:28 PM
I have the X-Fi Fatality championship but the card doesn't fit in my PCI slots for some reason.

+1 for external USB sound devices. PCI is outdated and while there's some nice high end cards for it, buying anything now is a waste of money. It's harder and harder to find motherboards with PCI slots. Seeing that USB 3's bandwidth is FAR from being taken advantage of, USB sound devices will be around a LONG time.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:18:51 AM
Kari, don't speak about sound, because you know nothing about it.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: KARI-30 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 11:05:10 AM
Kari, don't speak about sound, because you know nothing about it.
No one forces you to read what I write. If my tests that are made with multiple card, headphones, systems are not valid to you, I couldnt care less. You may return to your joyful, fulfilling real life. Hm, I guess its not that great afterall since you come here and stalk forums on a daily basis. A dead games forums. Make everyone a favour and take and hike. And one more thing:

What is Majestic?
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
You may return to your joyful, fulfilling real life. Hm, I guess its not that great afterall since you come here and stalk forums on a daily basis. A dead games forums.

You post more than him on this ''dead game forum'' and you talk about stalking and daily basis?

Neverless back on this topic, The only stuff you need is a soundcard, they change sound quality quite a lot and a good pair of headphones wouldn't hurt, they would even maximize the sound booster.
+1 for external USB sound devices. PCI is outdated and while there's some nice high end cards for it, buying anything now is a waste of money. It's harder and harder to find motherboards with PCI slots. Seeing that USB 3's bandwidth is FAR from being taken advantage of, USB sound devices will be around a LONG time.

Agreement.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: FilteredName1488911 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:58:11 PM
What is Majestic?

It's a well known White Power Krav Manga Pro E-SPORT Sound ExpertZ clan from Poland, haven't you heard of it?

I have the X-Fi Fatality championship but the card doesn't fit in my PCI slots for some reason.

Ya, I have the same problem: none of my superb sound cards will fit into my laptop.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:33:13 PM
If you want to speak anything, you need to have a basic knowledge on it.

If you tell that the sound device has no influence on distance hearing, you are discredited on the beggining and now you just should to stop your barking.

Why the hell you ask abou Majestic? We do not speak about it here. You tried to be spicy, but you shown that you are muppet.

Device no matters. Skoda is faster than BMW.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Possessed on Wednesday, October 02, 2013, 14:53:40 PM
I lol'd at Krav Manga, is this an Otaku self defense style?
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: FilteredName1488911 on Wednesday, October 02, 2013, 15:52:37 PM
I lol'd at Krav Manga, is this an Otaku self defense style?

If you want to speak anything, you need to have a basic knowledge on it.
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: Possessed on Wednesday, October 02, 2013, 17:47:54 PM
If you want to speak anything, you need to have a basic knowledge on it.
Sure, you meant Krav Magá not Krav Manga. I no krav magá very very well..
Title: Re: Sound for dayz - ASUS Xonar DSX
Post by: FilteredName1488911 on Wednesday, October 02, 2013, 18:24:10 PM
Sure, you meant Krav Magá not Krav Manga. I no krav magá very very well..

I repeat, stop acting like an arrogant incompetent person.