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Offline Alex

New motherboard and case?
« on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 19:04:17 PM »
I finally have the $140 I need to buy a new motherbord and case. For those of you who aren't spanky, I need a new motherboard because right now my OEM doesn't allow overclocking and I need more performance out of my processor (would overclock from 2.5GHz to 3.0GHz.) I also need a new case because almost every piece of hardware in my tiny case is running at above average temps. So I have the money to buy it, but I'm not really sure that it is worth it. I don't play games all that often anymore, I still do weekly, but not daily like before. And I'm not really sure that the performance increase will be worth the price. Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not to do it?

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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 20:39:57 PM »
Try modding your case to get better airflow before buying one. And if you do get a new motherboard but not a case make sure the OEM case you have will fit it. I know HP likes to use BTX and its quite annoying. But honestly the biggest performance boost you can get with 140$ would be an SSD. You will crap your pants when your in windows in less than 20 seconds. Seriously, even if you manage a 100% OC (not going to happen) you will still see a bigger boost from an SSD.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 20:53:27 PM »
Try modding your case to get better airflow before buying one. And if you do get a new motherboard but not a case make sure the OEM case you have will fit it. I know HP likes to use BTX and its quite annoying. But honestly the biggest performance boost you can get with 140$ would be an SSD. You will crap your pants when your in windows in less than 20 seconds. Seriously, even if you manage a 100% OC (not going to happen) you will still see a bigger boost from an SSD.

I don't think Dell uses ATX for their cases either. Also, even if I modded my case, it has one 80mm fan and everything is crammed in (could barely fit my GPU) so even if I opened it up a bit, it would still get too hot. How will an SSD help my games run better? My crappy CPU ( Intel Pentium E5200 Dual-Core @2.5GHz) holds me back in a lot of games including Bad Company 2. I just don't know if I will see a $140 performance increase.

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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 21:24:39 PM »
And you have tried setfsb? Also pics of case are required.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 21:25:12 PM »
But honestly the biggest performance boost you can get with 140$ would be an SSD. You will crap your pants when your in windows in less than 20 seconds.

BORING!

FPS or loading times.... hmmmm tough choice... NOT.


Here's what I recommended:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-45-U3L&title=GIGABYTE-GA-EP45-UD3L-Core-2-Quad-P45-DDR2-1366-A-GbE-ATX-DES-Motherboard
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-43-UD3L&title=GIGABYTE-GA-EP43-UD3L-Core-2-Quad-Intel-P43-DDR2-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P43ES3G&title=GIGABYTE-GA-P43-ES3G-Core-2-Quad-Intel-P43-DDR2-1200-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard

Any will allow good overclocks with high FSB with fast and tight memory. Inside his budget and leaves room for a case.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 22:20:34 PM »
He said nothing about FPS increase simply a performance boost. And and SSD will give you the best all around performance boost.

In fact he states he doesn't even play games that often so... Knight 1 Spanky 0.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 22:23:39 PM »
He said nothing about FPS increase simply a performance boost. And and SSD will give you the best all around performance boost.

In fact he states he doesn't even play games that often so... Knight 1 Spanky 0.

Well, I said that I didn't play them all that much as a con to getting the motherboard. I guess I should have been clearer.

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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 23:18:06 PM »
Hi.

Just get a mobo. Your probably not going to do much on the comp anyway and an SSD isn't going to increase your FPS. If you have money left, you can get a nice case, or even a really cheap SSD and install only Windows on it. You can always try what I do and load the case up with fans on the front and back with duct tape to get air to pass thru nicely.



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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011, 23:18:49 PM »
Whole system performance with CPU, FSB & Memory speed boosts > SSD

Load times are nice but he'd get what, 60-100GB for that? Not worth it yet.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 15:05:15 PM »
Bought the awesome Antec Three hundred Illusion Case for $55 free shipping, which is a steal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
Had to buy it today because it was on sale. I'm going to wait until Friday to see if the motherboard spanky recommended comes in stock.

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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 15:13:22 PM »
Something I forgot to mention is that you'll probably want to/have to replace the fans in whatever case you buy. Just like cases that come with PSU's, they're garbage. They might last 6 months or a year or if you're lucky, longer. Look up some nice ball bearing, SSO or whatever fans. Stay away from sleeve (which I'm 98% sure that's what's in the case). Masscool makes great ball bearing fans. I bought 5 80mm ball bearing fans (which also happen to be one of the most fastest 80mm fan) and they're still going strong almost 2 years later.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 15:27:42 PM »
Something I forgot to mention is that you'll probably want to/have to replace the fans in whatever case you buy. Just like cases that come with PSU's, they're garbage. They might last 6 months or a year or if you're lucky, longer. Look up some nice ball bearing, SSO or whatever fans. Stay away from sleeve (which I'm 98% sure that's what's in the case). Masscool makes great ball bearing fans. I bought 5 80mm ball bearing fans (which also happen to be one of the most fastest 80mm fan) and they're still going strong almost 2 years later.

I'll buy some when I get some more money. The ones in the case should be fine for now.

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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 15:48:11 PM »
Quality case fans are an investment. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185005

When you consider 3 or 4 of those, you've passed the $50 range easily. Or these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608009
3 and you're at $75 which is half your current budget. Pain in the ass hidden expense but it's better than buying shitty ones that you have to replace frequently (waste & cost) that requires you to open your case and undo whatever wire routing you had.

Maybe it's just me but I always forget about fans. I'll source parts for someone and push their budget to get quality parts then think that I forgot case fans that I gotta find $30-$60 for somehow.
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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 15:50:18 PM »
You can also recycle fans from other parts = free fans. But that only works if youve got a lot of computer parts lying around.



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Re: New motherboard and case?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, January 05, 2011, 16:02:17 PM »
Good job on the case Killaman, it just now showed up on Slickdeals :)
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