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Title: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Saturday, November 27, 2010, 18:10:18 PM
When I play CoD 4 I get these frequent stutters, kind of like lag spikes. I usually have good internet so I tested it on two other games, STALKER Call of Pripyat, and Alpha Protocol, both singleplayer games. Both get the same thing. So it may be a problem with my graphics card. Are there any tests I can run to see if it is?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, November 27, 2010, 18:27:16 PM
OCCT is a all-in-one stress test. Run the GPU test and the CUDA memory test too. If I were you, I would whip out Task Manager and GPU-Z to see loads and determine if your CPU is holding you back or something.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 00:48:05 AM
Sounds like you're dropping fps. I use to get the same thing. The settings might be to high for your gpu. Pull up fraps or some thing to see your fps when it happens versus your fps normally.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 01:57:03 AM
How frequent are these stutters?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:31:08 AM
Sounds like you're dropping fps. I use to get the same thing. The settings might be to high for your gpu. Pull up fraps or some thing to see your fps when it happens versus your fps normally.

nope, CoD4 only uses about 30% of my GPU. The FPS does drop when it stutters though.

How frequent are these stutters?
Pretty frequent.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 14:52:21 PM
I dont know. This problem is weird. Maybe something is on that shouldn't be on.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 15:31:01 PM
I dont know. This problem is weird. Maybe something is on that shouldn't be on.

One as in programs running or a setting in-game?

I also tested it on STALKER Call of Pripyat and it still only uses 60% of my GPU. The CPU usage was pretty high, not 100% though. It is a weird problem. I'll try to turn down the settings next time and see what happens.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 17:21:57 PM
I was thinking something is running in the background spiking the cpu from time to time dropping the fps. Games these days still use GPU and CPU so if the cpu spikes, then the game can stutter or temporarily stop depending on how hard the cpu was hit.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 18:09:08 PM
I was thinking something is running in the background spiking the cpu from time to time dropping the fps. Games these days still use GPU and CPU so if the cpu spikes, then the game can stutter or temporarily stop depending on how hard the cpu was hit.

I tested CoD 4 without any other programs running.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 18:45:20 PM
It could also be your harddrive.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 18:57:04 PM
It could also be your harddrive.

Any way to test that?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 19:24:45 PM
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/f/testharddrive.htm
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 20:15:57 PM
See, I would think it's his hard drive if he was low-ish on RAM and the game was hitting up the paging file frequently but that doesn't really sound like the issue here. I'm stumped to be honest. We went through anything I could think of on X-Fire. Did you ever defrag Killaman?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 21:09:26 PM
See, I would think it's his hard drive if he was low-ish on RAM and the game was hitting up the paging file frequently but that doesn't really sound like the issue here. I'm stumped to be honest. We went through anything I could think of on X-Fire. Did you ever defrag Killaman?

I forgot to, I'll do that tonight.

EDIT: What  program should I use? I some how lost the one I used last time.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 21:36:37 PM
Defraggler is good.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Sunday, November 28, 2010, 21:41:44 PM
windows default defrag not good enough?

nope.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Monday, November 29, 2010, 00:09:14 AM
MyDefrag. 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Friday, December 03, 2010, 21:53:42 PM
Well, it must be CoD 4. I don't get the stutters in BC2 multiplayer (a MUCH more demanding game) I have tried screwing with the settings with no result. I am getting 100 FPS but it still stutters every damn minute.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Friday, December 03, 2010, 22:02:11 PM
100FPS? Maybe try VSync?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Friday, December 03, 2010, 22:04:53 PM
100FPS? Maybe try VSync?

I always use Vsync. I tried turning it off to see if that was the problem. No good.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Friday, December 03, 2010, 22:22:16 PM
So you're on a high-end CRT then? I don't see how you get 100FPS and still have VSync on unless it's a bug or something. VSync should cap FPS at your monitors refresh rate which is most likely 60hz so 60FPS would be max. Although there seems to be 1 exception: BF2. I always get 100FPS there...
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Friday, December 03, 2010, 22:24:26 PM
So you're on a high-end CRT then? I don't see how you get 100FPS and still have VSync on unless it's a bug or something. VSync should cap FPS at your monitors refresh rate which is most likely 60hz so 60FPS would be max. Although there seems to be 1 exception: BF2. I always get 100FPS there...

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. I turned off vsync and some other settings to see if it was that. I was getting 100FPS with the stuff off, including vsync.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Friday, December 03, 2010, 23:05:09 PM
Ah, ok :P 100fps then must be the engine cap or something like BF2.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 06:50:27 AM
Cod4 uses the hard drive a lot more than most games. I'm not sure why (I use to know and forgot) but it does. Its probably a hard drive issue.

(Keeping in mind I have over 2000 hours played in cod4 :P)
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Well I tested my hard drive with SeaTools and it failed both the short and long self tests. It failed the tests rather quickly, which leaves me to wonder why everything else but CoD 4 works perfectly fine on my computer....

Doing some more tests. It passed the short generic test and is still doing the long generic test.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 18:38:54 PM
I would be cloning that hard drive as soon as possible just in case it fails.


Done. I don't have that much important stuff anyways.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 18:41:03 PM
Get Speedtest and there's a button that shows something like "get more information from an indepth online test" or some crap. Click it and down towards the bottom of the page there's a link to share, paste that here :) Then run chkdsk and force recovery of bad whatnots.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Knight on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 18:53:01 PM
CoD4 accesses the hard drive far more than any game Ive ever seen. Its some thing with the engine. I had the same stuttering when I had CoD4 installed on my variable speed drive.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 19:21:47 PM
CoD4 accesses the hard drive far more than any game Ive ever seen. Its some thing with the engine. I had the same stuttering when I had CoD4 installed on my variable speed drive.

but if it was failing wouldn't I see other signs?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 19:45:44 PM
It greatly depends. If it's a motor or head going out, failure would be all over the place. But if it's a couple bad sectors then it depends on where those sectors are and what files are in there. Doing the indepth test that Speedfan has (did I say speedtest?) will tell you info about it. Running chkdsk will attempt to recover bad sectors with the spare ones every hard drive has.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Alex on Saturday, December 04, 2010, 19:58:03 PM
It's weird. I don't get any errors when doing the drive self check, it just says failed. and now it always fails without the bar going up, when before it would go up. Why is it failing without giving me any errors?
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 13, 2011, 05:59:12 AM
The graphics card will definitely do that wont it skrewy

Someone failed to see the discussion turn towards hard drive problems.
Title: Re: Graphics Card tests
Post by: BlueBlaster on Sunday, February 13, 2011, 14:42:09 PM
But I like lemons.