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Title: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 21:01:41 PM
Finally have all the cash in place. Making a long anticipated purchase. What do you guys think about these parts?

Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz LGA 1155 Processor (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388575)
ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0386886)
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0401989)
Corsair CX Series CX750M 750 Watt ATX Modular Power Supply (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0406089)
Western Digital WD Blue 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352164)
Corsair Vengeance Series 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359910)
LG 24x Super Multi Internal SATA DVD±RW DL Drive (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0407512)
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:06:16 PM
I'd switch memory, get something a bit better than 1600MHz. The Intel chip can handle it and will benefit from it. This is $5 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

Also, that PSU isn't that great, especially for the price. It's Corsair's low end and you'll regret getting it down the road. Check this guy out for the same price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
5 year warranty, better efficiency and it will probably hold it's output power longer than the CX series.

I'd like to suggest a better hard drive but there's not much wrong with the Blue if it's the best you can afford. Of course, a Black or SSD would be better but again, it's about cost and demand for capacity which are things only you know.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:17:54 PM
Bump down the i7 and get a better GPU. Games are way more dependent on the GPU and the i5 3570K easily maxes any game on the market. It'd be stupid to buy a 3770K while settling for a measly GTX 660. Go for at least a 660Ti, or 7950 (which is the better performing card).
Not to mention Nvidia is currently releasing their 7xx GPUs so I'd hold off for a bit to see how it will change prices.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:24:28 PM
noted killa. The only reason im going i7 is because microcenter has a good deal on it. Its pretty much the same price as most of the 3.6 ghz i5's. 660 Ti is alot more expensive. Thats the only reason i didint go Ti there. But I see what your saying.

I was gunna grab a small SSD too for the OS and some high end games. There so expensive. but i can squeeze a 100gig one in probably. I have steady income these days so no big deal really.

Any suggestions in that department? i feel like there mostly the same
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:27:50 PM
The Crucial M4 is suggested a lot. I think it's $130 for a 128gb one. Intel makes some good SSDs as well. But the GPU should come first, it's the most important component when it comes to gaming so if an SSD is going to keep you at a GTX 660, you should go without it and get a better GPU.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:35:44 PM
Honestly... i might just go balls deep and get both the Ti and the solid state. Yolo
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Saturday, May 25, 2013, 22:43:03 PM
Honestly... i might just go balls deep and get both the Ti and the solid state. Yolo
I'd definitely suggest a 7950 over a 660Ti. It's the same price, has a bigger memory bandwidth, more memory, and outperforms the 660Ti in most game benchmarks.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 00:04:37 AM
Save the $$ on the SSD unless you go Intel or Samsung 840 PRO. The Crucial M4's are getting pretty old now and have easily 1/4 the write speed of the Samsungs.

I have no comments on Intel CPU's and modern GPU's.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 00:23:56 AM
Save the $$ on the SSD unless you go Intel or Samsung 840 PRO. The Crucial M4's are getting pretty old now and have easily 1/4 the write speed of the Samsungs.

I have no comments on Intel CPU's and modern GPU's.
Looking further into it, you're right. I was just recalling stuff from the last time I was looking into getting one. I don't stay up to date on SSDs like I do on CPUs and GPUs.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 00:36:06 AM
I don't stay up to date on SSDs like I do on CPUs and GPUs.

I'm just the opposite :)
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Robin on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 06:46:36 AM
Get this:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
Or wait 1 more week and either get the new i5-4670K or buy the 3570k with lower price ;)
http://www.microcenter.com/product/365786/Enthusiast_Series_TX650M_650_Watt_High_Performance_Modular_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/387554/Z77_Extreme4_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/403013/R7950_TF_3GD5-OC_AMD_Radeon_HD_7950_Twin_Frozr_III_Overclocked_3072MB_GDDR5_PCIe_30_x16_Video_Card
Or get a MSI GTX670 OC 2GB, they should be cheaper now with the release of the new GTX770/780...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/401558/Hyper_X_Predator_8GB_DDR3-2133_%28PC3-17000%29_CL_11_Desktop_Memory_Kit_%28Two_4GB_Memory_Modules%29
http://www.microcenter.com/product/402603/840_Series_MZ-7TD120BW_120GB_SATA_60Gb-s_25_Internal_Solid_State_Drive_%28SSD%29
http://www.microcenter.com/product/386580/Z11_Plus_ATX_Mid_Tower_Computer_Case
I have that case but you can go for something like:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/366600/Carbide_Series_400R_Mid_Tower_ATX_Gaming_Computer_Case
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 07:33:26 AM
take the Samsung ssd. best price/power and .....lifetime!
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 13:23:29 PM
Don't get the regular 840 series Samsung SSD. It's slower speed and lower quality memory chips. You only want the PRO version. Low-end SSD's aren't worth the bother IMO, you're better off getting a platter drive with better reliability and more storage.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Jason on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 15:02:04 PM
scratch everything.

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491

Intel DX79TO Desktop Motherboard - Intel X79 Express Chipset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121708

HP 2250W DC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817292077

SilverStone Temjin Series TJ11B-W Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163178

OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 series 960GB SSD (Get like 7 of these)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742

COOLER MASTER Eisberg 240L Prestige CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103184

GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7990 6GB 768-bit GPU (might as well get 2...no 3, just incase)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125458

And just to make sure you see everything
Sharp PN-L802B 80" LED LCD Touchscreen Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA25V0PM7733

that should fit your budget easily
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 15:56:11 PM
Low-end SSD's aren't worth the bother IMO

Believe they do, ask anyone who have one or check online tests.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 16:11:26 PM
Believe they do, ask anyone who have one or check online tests.

Sure, they're faster than a platter drive but warranty period, reliability and speed compared to good quality drives it really isn't worth the hassle. You won't catch me buying a junky SSD. I'll stick with Crucial, Samsung and Intel. If you don't care about your data and time and want the cheapest piece of shit, be my guest.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 16:28:26 PM
Thanks Jason. Always shooting for more.

I think ill hold off on the SSD.

I did some reading and in agreeance with many comments made i like this combo

Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz
Radeon HD 7950 3GB

I was looking at the Gigabyte Radeon.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 16:41:01 PM
Gigabyte is good. I'd say avoid MSI for, well, pretty much everything. Gigabyte, Sapphire and XFX make pretty good AMD GPU's.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 16:42:11 PM
Thanks Jason. Always shooting for more.

I think ill hold off on the SSD.

I did some reading and in agreeance with many comments made i like this combo

Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz
Radeon HD 7950 3GB

I was looking at the Gigabyte Radeon.
The Gigabyte Windforce one? I have that GPU, although I think the current ones being sold are an upgrade from mine with a locked core voltage. Must be because I only paid $300 for mine and it's now $310. The locked core voltage isn't a big deal unless you plan on heavily overclocking the GPU.

Anyways, the card is quieter and cooler than any card I've ever had. Also comes with 3 games (Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, and FC3: Blood Dragon. $135 worth of games.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 16:59:05 PM
this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414

but i might go for the sapphier. Costs less and has a nice rebate and free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202030

So lastly i guess im still undecided about getting the SSD. The only reason im shying away from it is because i don't want it to crash in 2 years. Am i being completely paranoid?

Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, May 26, 2013, 17:07:45 PM
It won't, if you get a good one. I've been running a Samsung 830 for about a year now and have written about 3.7TB to it with a couple of installs of Windows and virtual machine installs, game installs and a bunch of stuff. Still working great. The 840 PRO series is even better and has been out long enough for any issues to be sorted out. I think Crucial is about the best with firmware updates but their M4 drive is pretty old now. It's still not a bad drive, just it isn't as fast as some of the more modern ones.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: eKC0mm on Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 17:28:09 PM
Do you think the onboard sound on this Asus is better than the my SB Fatality Championship sound card?
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 19:53:28 PM
Sell your Fatality, grab a Schiit Modi. $100, USB-powered and great sound.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 20:12:35 PM
just buy the things you like.
this is going to be a "look, how am I good, I know all that" crap thing.
almost everything is good.
sometimes the one or other a bit better, but not THAT much.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 20:29:56 PM
Merlin, there are brands that aren't worth the scrap they're made of. Marketing can sucker you into a crappy product and if you don't know any better, you'll keep buying a new power supply every year. i.e. you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 20:32:40 PM
mine soon to be

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233331&Tpk=corsair%20vengeance%2064gb%20%288%20x%208gb%29%20ddr3%201600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014
2 cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-181-032&Tpk=N82E16835181032
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 21:20:18 PM
Must be nice to have that much cash to blow on a computer.
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: Alex on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 21:30:52 PM
Must be nice to have that much cash to blow on a computer.
I'm pretty sure he's joking...
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Saturday, June 01, 2013, 22:10:05 PM
it's a great thing when ur able to get free computer parts from compusa
Title: Re: Building new computer v2
Post by: zoxee on Monday, June 03, 2013, 17:56:45 PM
mine soon to be

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233331&Tpk=corsair%20vengeance%2064gb%20%288%20x%208gb%29%20ddr3%201600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014
2 cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-181-032&Tpk=N82E16835181032

I have the exact same configuration apart that i have the 3960X installed.