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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: wickid on Saturday, February 23, 2013, 22:14:42 PM

Title: ww roof
Post by: wickid on Saturday, February 23, 2013, 22:14:42 PM
ever since u removed the railing, we now have nothing but a bunch of crybaby little noobs that all cry out roof exploit every time they die

seriously now can u put em back so these crybaby kiddie noob admins will stop cryn like little girls, there worst then my girlfriends crybaby's

HT SERVER , ATAS SERVER , ES SERVER,   POL SERVER, ALL THESE always crys about hti stupid ass roof bug, think they all need to learn how to play a dam free game
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 01:25:53 AM
Seriously? Everyone came crying about it and now want it back? I doubt it will ever be done again. At that expense we lost most of our mappers :/
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 01:55:45 AM
ever since u removed the railing, we now have nothing but a bunch of crybaby little noobs that all cry out roof exploit every time they die

seriously now can u put em back so these crybaby kiddie noob admins will stop cryn like little girls, there worst then my girlfriends crybaby's

HT SERVER , ATAS SERVER , ES SERVER,   POL SERVER, ALL THESE always crys about hti stupid ass roof bug, think they all need to learn how to play a dam free game

No. Sorry, but no.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: AlwaysDrunk on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 04:36:04 AM
hehe i don't care about the roof, but me and a great deal of players want 32 slot hospital back :) is it possible?
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: ]SFC[SerialCowKilla on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 05:08:49 AM
Maybe its possible to make both versions playable? Original SF Hospital and  the edited map with railings as [mAAp] Hospital ?
Problem solved ;)
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: rmcdzk on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 06:12:37 AM
ever since u removed the railing, we now have nothing but a bunch of crybaby little noobs that all cry out roof exploit every time they die

seriously now can u put em back so these crybaby kiddie noob admins will stop cryn like little girls, there worst then my girlfriends crybaby's

HT SERVER , ATAS SERVER , ES SERVER,   POL SERVER, ALL THESE always crys about hti stupid ass roof bug, think they all need to learn how to play a dam free game

You should try other maps, really.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: elementx+ on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 06:19:50 AM
just delete Hospital.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: amthje on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
just delete Hospital.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 14:00:52 PM
Maybe its possible to make both versions playable? Original SF Hospital and  the edited map with railings as [mAAp] Hospital ?
Problem solved ;)

I could see a mAAp version of Hospital in which there are 32 slots, however I would make a poll for railings vs no railings on ww roof.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 16:57:11 PM
I can always count on AAO25 for a good laugh. Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: KARI-30 on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 20:01:11 PM
Omg wickid. Original maps should stay untouched. Either play other maps or place yourself somewhere else on the roof if you must go there.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Alex on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 20:25:19 PM
Omg wickid. Original maps should stay untouched. Either play other maps or place yourself somewhere else on the roof if you must go there.
Oh OK. Then I guess we should put back the original Pipeline where defense at spawn could shoot 203's through the back wall towards assault spawn right when the round begins. Would that be better?
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: zoxee on Sunday, February 24, 2013, 20:28:10 PM
Oh OK. Then I guess we should put back the original Pipeline where defense at spawn could shoot 203's through the back wall towards assault spawn right when the round begins. Would that be better?

lol  :D
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: TICUS on Monday, February 25, 2013, 11:36:09 AM
HAHAHAHA Wic!!!  you are the man! you kill me!  :up: :up: :up: :up: true!
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Monday, February 25, 2013, 13:26:50 PM
Someone please explain EXACTLY what the roof bug is and how you do it. I'm going to try and fix it without the exaggerated player blocking volumes.

The modified version will be called [mAAp]SF Hospital
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Spanky on Monday, February 25, 2013, 13:39:26 PM
The modified version will be called [mAAp]SF Hospital

Which nobody will play. Don't waste your time man =\ AA players live on glitches, exploits and shit like that.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: ]SFC[SerialCowKilla on Monday, February 25, 2013, 13:59:25 PM
Someone please explain EXACTLY what the roof bug is and how you do it. I'm going to try and fix it without the exaggerated player blocking volumes.

The modified version will be called [mAAp]SF Hospital

Goose, u can read here --> http://aao25.com/general-chat/sf-hospital-roof-bug/
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Alex on Monday, February 25, 2013, 14:17:07 PM
Someone please explain EXACTLY what the roof bug is and how you do it. I'm going to try and fix it without the exaggerated player blocking volumes.

The modified version will be called [mAAp]SF Hospital
Good luck with that. Spanky and I couldn't even replicate the bug. It's difficult to fix something you can't see happen.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Monday, February 25, 2013, 14:28:12 PM
Good luck with that. Spanky and I couldn't even replicate the bug. It's difficult to fix something you can't see happen.

Exactly. I have never heard of this roof bug in all my time of playing this game. Never. I'd like to see a video or something, because the only information I have is "roof bug."

My best guess is that what people are referring to is that in this version of the game, the first-person eye level is higher than the third-person eye level. This means that, in some cases, you can go prone, peek over an edge, and no one can see you. It's a situation where you can fire on someone and they cannot hit you. There is a spot like this North Outside in Pipeline looking toward the west entrance.

If this is the "roof bug," then messing with the roof will solve nothing, because it's an element of the game and can happen in plenty of other places.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, February 25, 2013, 15:35:29 PM
I think I know what you mean.

Sometimes the enemy body isn't even drawn, but they can still see and shoot you.

For example, I was playing on SF Extraction, I spectated an enemy to see if he's idle or whatever, I saw him on Mr Feet's Rooftop. Then I spectated my own guy. Now I knew where the enemy was, but I still couldn't see him in my screen (even from a 3rd person spectate mode), but he still shot and killed my teammate.

I don't know what exactly makes this bug pop up every now and then, but I do believe it's a bug in the game, not the maps themselves.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, February 25, 2013, 16:22:20 PM
Someone please explain EXACTLY what the roof bug is and how you do it. I'm going to try and fix it without the exaggerated player blocking volumes.

The modified version will be called [mAAp]SF Hospital

It's hopeless. The ww roof bugs they are complaining about are _the same_ bugs that exist in the esc bld floors. There are spots in both sides, where you see distant opfor, but he cant see you.

The mistery is why people only complain about ambush side, while the escort side has the same characteristics.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Monday, February 25, 2013, 18:39:48 PM
It's hopeless. The ww roof bugs they are complaining about are _the same_ bugs that exist in the esc bld floors. There are spots in both sides, where you see distant opfor, but he cant see you.

The mistery is why people only complain about ambush side, while the escort side has the same characteristics.

With all of this in mind, here's what I have to say:

There are many glitches that players can do (like the prone glitch, and the less-commonly-known lean shot which does the same thing as the prone glitch). Anyway, the point is that this is a game glitch, not a glitch specific to the West Wing roof, therefore the railings are an unnecessary hindrance to player mobility.

All of this aside, I still intend to have a 32-slot version of Hospital available in addition to the original.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Possessed on Monday, February 25, 2013, 19:22:52 PM
All of this aside, I still intend to have a 32-slot version of Hospital available in addition to the original.
I could have asked for this before I rolled back hosp, but I did not wanted to bother ppl with hospital again :P
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: MothaGoosE on Tuesday, February 26, 2013, 04:48:41 AM
I could have asked for this before I rolled back hosp, but I did not wanted to bother ppl with hospital again :P

[mAAp]SFHospital is ready to go up.

Although, I forgot to copy and rename the briefings, but I need to sleep and I have class in like 4 hours, heheh.


Taken care of.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: ]SFC[SerialCowKilla on Tuesday, February 26, 2013, 07:40:06 AM
 :up:
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: wickid on Monday, March 04, 2013, 19:08:18 PM
Seriously? Everyone came crying about it and now want it back? I doubt it will ever be done again. At that expense we lost most of our mappers :/

sry late reply forgot about this post, lol

this stupid kiddie wanna be tough guy internet admins cant handle being killed by amercians on there own server so they always use the lame ass excuse exploting the ww roof, being i have a 45 ping i will camp my ass off on a euro server, and these noobs cant stand it i cant get alot of kills off ww roof,

it's pretty fuckn sad what aa 2.5 came down to havn kiddie noob servers owners, boot u for being better then them,

so if it was up to me yea put the railing back up atleast would see less kiddie noob admins whinning about roof exploit

too be fuckn honest i don't even know where the exploit lays in

i always go to roof the right side lay beside vents, i can clearly see some 1 when im playn on escort in the spot i lie in, i think they just get made cause i use single fire and get headshots, make em more piced when gettn shot with a pistol against a rpk lol

Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: wickid on Monday, March 04, 2013, 19:11:12 PM
With all of this in mind, here's what I have to say:

There are many glitches that players can do (like the prone glitch, and the less-commonly-known lean shot which does the same thing as the prone glitch). Anyway, the point is that this is a game glitch, not a glitch specific to the West Wing roof, therefore the railings are an unnecessary hindrance to player mobility.

All of this aside, I still intend to have a 32-slot version of Hospital available in addition to the original.

yes indeed i forgot to state too, but u won't hear me cryn 3rd fl exploiter, cause w sniper i blind fire the spots and i will alwys get the kill, and thats what makes em mad and calln me a exploiter
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: wickid on Monday, March 04, 2013, 19:12:07 PM
Omg wickid. Original maps should stay untouched. Either play other maps or place yourself somewhere else on the roof if you must go there.

u know kari i have tried that many time, and gets fuckn old gettn ban from a  bunch of immature asswipes that can't except being killed
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: KARI-30 on Monday, March 04, 2013, 21:21:44 PM
I am tired of all this crying. Wickid pro US player.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, March 05, 2013, 00:31:38 AM
That's pretty creepy if you're watching wickid cry instead of offering support for whatever emotionally difficult problem he's facing.
Title: Re: ww roof
Post by: B@lestra^ on Tuesday, March 05, 2013, 05:39:49 AM
Mothagoose, i appreciate it that you were at least trying to do something about this ww glitch. I can tell that there is indeed a glitch/bug where enemy players/bodies become invisible when they make a crouch action after climbing up the ladder. I've played several hours as Sniper on Escort and i think that it has to do something with the boxes (or are it vents? anyways thos objects standing in front of the ladder). The bug appeared mostly when players crouched to the left or right (but also between the boxes) of these boxes. I sometimes even manged to make blind shots and could thus kill an enemy player whithout seeing him. But that were lucky shots which i placed left, right or between the boxes. Wickid, these players are not crying like babies, it's a bug which gives unfair advantage, because you are not visible around these boxes as ambush. Maybe there is even a technique of going invisible, bc i couldn't reproduce the glitch while being on ww as ambush sniper. If you really want to investigate in this bug, you will need two players who test it, one on third floor escort building and one on ww roof.