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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: rxcapitan on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:01:32 PM

Title: sound in win7
Post by: rxcapitan on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:01:32 PM
I cant reply to the other thread coz its closed,

My point was to get the old players who are on win7 and dont like the sound back.
i read that even  big_sergio didnt want return to aao because of sound at some point and i know few more who dont play aao because no sound.For some ppl aao2 became WIN XP Game


I dont want resolve where the fault is because i dont understand that and its not important i think.

i know that u can get xp sound{atleast little bit} in win7 back by using some alchemy or something.

What we can do to get more ppl back to aao is to atleast make link for win7 users in assit to some fix sound guide.

Of course that they can google it but some dont even get the idea that it can be fixed some are lazy ect.

Please ppl stay on the topic.If u want flame me make new thread pls.ty
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Jared on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:15:26 PM
From my understanding Vista, and Win 7 didn't copy/make the right dlls. There's a few fixes out there ( such and copying and moving dll files ). I tried in the past to edit my copy of openal.dll file in the aa/system folder, but couldn't get the game to load it would just crit.

Also try some modded drivers. I found a good set and when installed i noticed a big difference.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: BlueBlaster on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:16:08 PM
If anybody who has 7 and problems with sound, it would be advisable that they try out for themselves to fix it. It's understandable for 7 to have differences because it uses WASAPI primarily, but I do assume the solution is to find good and proper drivers.


I use 7 but do not have sound issues. And I can verify because I can swap back and forth between my laptop with 7 and desktop with XP.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Possessed on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:26:15 PM
interesting is that alot of ppl playing CoD MW and BF3 are using  win 7, usually when someone has a problem, they do search for a solution, help tips can be added to assist, but we cannot make assist fix the sound issue ("as in linux").
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Jared on Friday, July 20, 2012, 15:36:19 PM
Although the game maybe written in OpenAL, it may also default to DirectSound3D rendering. This happens because the game comes with an OpenAL library into the game directory, which is NOT the true OpenAL32.dll router (the file that will actually enumerate and select the native renderer), but wrap_oal.dll. This file contains the Software emulation and the OALtoDS3D wrapper. Now for compatibility purposes, the developers decided that when you select "hardware" in the game options it links to the OALtoDS3D wrapper and NOT the native renderer (This is a very concervative approach and NOT recommended by the OpenAL comitee themselves).
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: rxcapitan on Friday, July 20, 2012, 18:14:26 PM
Although the game maybe written in OpenAL, it may also default to DirectSound3D rendering. This happens because the game comes with an OpenAL library into the game directory, which is NOT the true OpenAL32.dll router (the file that will actually enumerate and select the native renderer), but wrap_oal.dll. This file contains the Software emulation and the OALtoDS3D wrapper. Now for compatibility purposes, the developers decided that when you select "hardware" in the game options it links to the OALtoDS3D wrapper and NOT the native renderer (This is a very concervative approach and NOT recommended by the OpenAL comitee themselves).

Does it mean that u can change something in the game to get the xpsound?

And what are the proper drivers for win7?since the one u dl at creative.com dont have even 3d sound rofl
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Jared on Friday, July 20, 2012, 18:17:40 PM
no. I tried to change a file in the game but it crits. Plus even if i did get it to work assist would delete the file.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Friday, July 20, 2012, 20:08:58 PM
I did had some issues when Win7 got out, even my micro wasn't recognized by the OS, i had to buy a new one USB so i could talk with clanmates at teamspeak, but in the meanwhile they updated drivers, i think it is exactly or near that of what it was with XP. And btw, Win7 has equalizer, at least my Creative drivers have.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: rxcapitan on Friday, July 20, 2012, 20:46:25 PM
i messed with sound in w7 althought it sounded similar i didnt hear as much or as far like in w xp..........

i might be wrong tho

Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Spanky on Friday, July 20, 2012, 21:37:02 PM
With a good sound setup, you'll hear as far as intended.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: WORLDCHANCELLOR on Monday, July 23, 2012, 12:33:20 PM
BTW, Utroda, I have the fix and just uploaded the zip file: http://www.gamefront.com/files/22024821/x64.zip   --

Make sure your Creative drivers are already installed:

1. Unzip the file (which is "x64.bat").

2. Put x64.bat into your System32 folder and click it.

3. Restart.

Took a long time to finally find the information to create this .bat file, so be thankful -- like I am.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: BL1NDSH00T3R on Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 06:35:12 AM
The download for the file no longer works anyone have an updated link??
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 14:13:04 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ormtgf5hxcggfb1/x64.zip
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: FLaK on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ormtgf5hxcggfb1/x64.zip


This really work ?

Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 10:10:43 AM
x64 into system32 - lol
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Dav3 on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 10:18:17 AM
Was something recently changed or something?

I have Win 7 pro 64, and havnt noticed anything. Granted my ears are still fked but I wasnt aware there were any difference between the sound in xp and 7?

Deets?
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
Was something recently changed or something?

I have Win 7 pro 64, and havnt noticed anything. Granted my ears are still fked but I wasnt aware there were any difference between the sound in xp and 7?

Deets?

For once, we agree on something. I've never once experienced any bad audio, volume drop or anything weird on several installs of Vista, 7 and 8.

I think it might be people missing the EAX effects that used to work in XP but hardly works in later versions due to Creative's technologies being obsolete.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Dav3 on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 12:39:15 PM
Perhaps this setting is messing with people:
Win7
Control panel > Sound > Communications - Default is 80%, I put on do nothing.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
Perhaps this setting is messing with people:
Win7
Control panel > Sound > Communications - Default is 80%, I put on do nothing.

Never touched that. Maybe it's because people use microphones and that might do it? Windows is perhaps lowering the volume of other applications when your mic is active?
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 02:31:33 AM
Perhaps this setting is messing with people:
Win7
Control panel > Sound > Communications - Default is 80%, I put on do nothing.
that only matters for other applications on the background.
Title: Re: sound in win7
Post by: FLaK on Tuesday, October 01, 2013, 13:27:07 PM
lol doesnt work