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Yes.

Neither Urban not Pipeline have random spawns. What are you on about?

There is a poll up asking whether people want randoms pawns or not. Surprisingly, most people seem to want them. The TC wants to know how it would be possible for competitive play.

I don't like the poll, especially since most maps are simply too small or the layout is too difficult to add in random spawns without effecting the balance of the map.

There is a poll up asking whether people want randoms pawns or not. Surprisingly, most people seem to want them. The TC wants to know how it would be possible for competitive play.

I don't like the poll, especially since most maps are simply too small or the layout is too difficult to add in random spawns without effecting the balance of the map.

I voted no on that one.
You can't just take all the maps and make them random spawn maps, it's impossible. If a map isn't built for random spawns, chances are adding them will just ruin it for most spawnpoints.

Which maps are too small?

The whole point is to randomize gameplay and make things more dynamic and fun. Right now, you know where you spawn, you know what slot spawns where and you know where the enemy spawns and which direction they're coming from. This creates 2 issues:
1. Predictable, stagnant and boring gameplay.
2. Non-realistic scenarios.

I think a bigger point is balancing.

Killa's  list of maps that wouldn't work well with Random spawns.
1. Weapon's Cache
   sure you could start defense on the second floor, but that would put assault at an even bigger disadvantage than before. The same goes for staring assault outside. Due to balancing issues, there is no good way to do it.

2. Bridge Crossing
This is pretty self explanatory

3. Mout Mckenna
Simply too small to do it and it would screw up balancing. What if one team starts in blue and the other at normal spawn? too much of an advantage.

4. Insurgent Camp
Just as self explanatory as Bridge. There would be no way to do it without starting assault closer to the building. The same thing goes for Farm Raid.

5. SF CSAR
No idea where the random spawns would be that wouldn't fuck up balancing. You can't spawn assault right next to the helicopter and you can't spawn defense there either.

6. Pipeline
Can't do it because of balancing. Where else is assault going to spawn? right next to the building?

7. Collapsed Tunnel
Pretty self explanatory.

Maps that I believe could benefit from random spawns.

Urban Assault
alternate spawns at delta and alpha alley.

Swamp raid
for assault only

SF Hospital
for VIP only. random spots inside the hospital. Must be careful not to break the balance.

SF Sandstorm
alternate spawns at outer objectives.

I give you much credit for all the work u guys done, keeping this game alive. I understand you want to create new maps, thats fine for me, bue for the love of god, dont fuck up the old maps. you have no right on that. its the original maps from americas army, the game we all love, please dont mess with the old maps. you dont like competition i get it, but theres a small amout of guys who does, if you random spawn the old maps youll fuck this up for us

I feel the majority of people will not like you changing the spawns in the old maps. It may sound like a good idea in practice, but if not done perfectly it could backfire big time.

There could be both.

Random spawns for pubbing and Normal spawn for scrims.

Only 1 set of spawn type is allowed per map, it's either or.