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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: Vanoke on Sunday, October 27, 2013, 16:25:02 PM
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Is understandable,
if ther is a poll than you must have a real majority ad least 65 ore 70 % to say yes ore no for that subject.
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i dunno how ur voting system is working?
But if its 51% 49%, the 51% wins... that how it works in the real world.
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i dunno how ur voting system is working?
But if its 51% 49%, the 51% wins... that how it works in the real world.
there are more than democracies in the real world XD buddy
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i dunno how ur voting system is working?
But if its 51% 49%, the 51% wins... that how it works in the real world.
Try to change important fundamentals of an organisation, for example the constitution. I can assure you that even if they can change it, they need at least 2/3d of the votes. A lot of associations got the same with their statutes (Not sure if this is the right English word)
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THX Bart good expenation thats around 66,6% i can live whit that. :up:
Try to change important fundamentals of an organisation, for example the constitution. I can assure you that even if they can change it, they need at least 2/3d of the votes. A lot of associations got the same with their statutes (Not sure if this is the right English word)
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Try to change important fundamentals of an organisation, for example the constitution. I can assure you that even if they can change it, they need at least 2/3d of the votes. A lot of associations got the same with their statutes (Not sure if this is the right English word)
Voting for a new president is a big thing, and there they use the 50/50 system.
And offcourse there are way more systems you can use!
But whatever system you guys wanna use: /care :cool:
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than 49 % is not happy
Voting for a new president is a big thing, and there they use the 50/50 system.
And offcourse there are way more systems you can use!
But whatever system you guys wanna use: /care :cool:
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than 49 % is not happy
so what?
life is unfair sometimes.
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In my eyes polls should be subject to contingent moderation and appropriation. Any poll, if it is to be held responsible for decision-empowering en-par the community desire and reflect accurately in its best interest should account for:
- 65/70% majority vote.
- The results should be kept private until the poll reaches its deadline.
- The options given should be accompanied with crucial information in the OP to help reflect assertiveness in the voting choice of the user-base.
An example would be:
- I open up a Poll.
- Provided information is to be found on the OP (Original Post).
- I set up a date after which the poll shall be closed and votes shut down.
- As this date is reached, the poll results are made public.
- An accurate (or the most accurate one can get) is reached.
Notes: Why keeping the poll results private? Simple. It will force users to opt for themselves as opposed to following the trend and/or letting the current polls (i.e:. Let's consider there's 10 Yesses and 2 Noes on an on-going poll) dictate what their decision should be inclined towards. If a user is met with the aforementioned scenario, he will hardly vote No due to its lack of momentum and votes. Instead, he may either choose to vote a different option and/or go with a Yes as long as new terms are introduced throughout the debate. Whichever way, the effect of "knowing in advance" will have played a substantial role in deflecting his/her vote decision making and will in turn reflect poorly on the poll's accuracy.
/Dan
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You hit the bullseye, :style:
Now how to reach the publiek
my first idear is everybuddy a personal invitation whit the subject.
any adder idears........................................!!
In my eyes polls should be subject to contingent moderation and appropriation. Any poll, if it is to be held responsible for decision-empowering en-par the community desire and reflect accurately in its best interest should account for:
- 65/70% majority vote.
- The results should be kept private until the poll reaches its deadline.
- The options given should be accompanied with crucial information in the OP to help reflect assertiveness in the voting choice of the user-base.
An example would be:
- I open up a Poll.
- Provided information is to be found on the OP (Original Post).
- I set up a date after which the poll shall be closed and votes shut down.
- As this date is reached, the poll results are made public.
- An accurate (or the most accurate one can get) is reached.
Notes: Why keeping the poll results private? Simple. It will force users to opt for themselves as opposed to following the trend and/or letting the current polls (i.e:. Let's consider there's 10 Yesses and 2 Noes on an on-going poll) dictate what their decision should be inclined towards. If a user is met with the aforementioned scenario, he will hardly vote No due to its lack of momentum and votes. Instead, he may either choose to vote a different option and/or go with a Yes as long as new terms are introduced throughout the debate. Whichever way, the effect of "knowing in advance" will have played a substantial role in deflecting his/her vote decision making and will in turn reflect poorly on the poll's accuracy.
/Dan
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i dunno how ur voting system is working?
But if its 51% 49%, the 51% wins... that how it works in the real world.
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/11/military-absentee-ballots-delivered-one-day-late-would-have-swung-election-for-romney/
unless of course your already president and are dirty as hell. Have a little look at how obama got in office this last time. Made sure these absentee votes, that were cast 8 months ahead of time, were one day late arriving and not counted. That's about as low as you can get, screwing over those who risk their life so you can this year, turn around and ask them if they would fire on your friends and family if ordered to.
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Well in a lot of organizations, 51% (or rather >50%) is considered enough to act.
However, there are often other things that need to happen. For example, sometimes you need to have have at least 2/3 of the people involved voting (which will never happen here I'm afraid) or sometimes you even need over 50% votes from the whole group that's involved.
All in all it's all about what's agreed upon beforehand.
But I do agree that the forum polls, to this day might have an inaccurate representation of the whole community, even though (as stated) those who don't bother coming here and voting probably just don't care enough.
I think someone mentioned integrating a poll to Assist, which could work well if implemented in a pleasant way (i.e not too pushy, yet still something everyone would notice).
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The integration of a voting/poll system into Assist is being discussed, yes.
I am a keen believer that users should be 'forced' to issue their vote upon entering the Assist. It shouldn't be all that hard to vote. If people aren't interested, they can always opt and click a "Ask Me Later" button of some sort. Again, this is but an hypothetical and theoretical discrimination of one of the possible ways polls/community headlines will work so don't take my word for it.
/Dan
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People don't like to be forced... Basic information about the polls should suffice.
BTW: 'majority' = 2/3 votes
...if not, the subject of poll should be re-discussed.
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People do not enjoy being forced. It is not a matter of liking, it is a matter of enjoying.
Likeness towards something concerns but is not exclusive to emotional satisfaction vs. logical consensus.
Whereas joy has solely to do with the emotional-side, that is, the emotional perspective/perception of things.
That aside, 2/3 votes on a percentage-level would represent 66.6%.
I agree with this. Somewhere the 65/70% percentage value constitutes a valid majority in my understanding.
/Dan
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People do not enjoy being forced. It is not a matter of liking, it is a matter of enjoying.
Likeness towards something concerns but is not exclusive to emotional satisfaction vs. logical consensus.
Whereas joy has solely to do with the emotional-side, that is, the emotional perspective/perception of things.
For most people the word 'like' is associated with 'fun' / 'enjoy' ...
Off Topic:
Chill out a little, because your post sounds like a quote from an encyclopedia. Besides, imagine that not only you have (..?) a good education - it was not necessary.