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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: JonnyM on Saturday, August 10, 2013, 17:09:14 PM
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Me and pit have come to an arrangement, Pit has agreed that he will no longer be using his cheats in this game and i have agreed to give him back his main account 'pit23'
I understand this will come as a shock to people and this is most defiantly an exception to the rule, Pit has been an assist admin and was the lead coder for a while, he has seen the source and knows exactly how the auth system works, We therefor have no realistic chance of keeping him out of the game. so unbanning him and welcoming him back is they only way he can stop him hacking our game.
Please allow him to play and do not kick him from your server, I will personally guarantee he will not be cheating.
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Despite what people say, he is a good guy. I'm not kissing ass or bullshitting either. Personally, I understand why he did what he did but now there's less of a need for it since the hackers are (mostly?) gone. There was a time where he was admin and had his own server that was pretty popular. Hopefully we can go back to that and maybe he can give the 82nd guys a run for their money :)
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Welcome back pit,
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I don't see this ending well. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Now unban Ronny.
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I don't know Ronny?
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Then UNBAN all the rest of them Jonny...you can't UNBAN one and not the others.This is getting to be a real joke! :down:
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That's a fucking bullshit!
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That's a fucking bullshit!
They don't care Yahoo....they're obviously scared shitless of Pit....Congrats on screwing this game once AGAIN!!!!!
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Someone said this once:
What's the point of having a zero tolerance policy if we're not going to support it? We look like hypocrites.
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Please allow him to play and do not kick him from your server, I will personally guarantee he will not be cheating.
No chance in hell that he's playing on my server....
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assist admins have no idea which make the game broken
especially clean player ban and unban the big cheater PIT23
very GJ admin
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welcome back pit.
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They don't care Yahoo....they're obviously scared shitless of Pit....Congrats on screwing this game once AGAIN!!!!!
Yea, that's it, we're scared. Fact is, with his current accounts banned and the ability to make new accounts disabled, he couldn't play at all. Another fact: he didn't hack to fuck up the game, he only hacked to own other hackers/glitchers/tweakers.
If you think we screwed up this game, you're welcome to leave. Nobody is forcing you to use Assist. Better to leave and let the people that appreciate the game and our efforts have the fun.
Yahoo, there are many grey areas. Pit isn't black and white. Let's take a look at iBad. He recently posted a ban appeal on here. Now, we caught him with a custom private script that basically shoots for him (he doesn't have to click as much). He gave us the file, gave us the source and said it was never released and all the evidence is there to make that believable. Now, he wasn't using a no fog hack or radar or anything that serious but he was still caught. Does he deserve to be banned forever? Look at all the people that bought paid hacks just to cheat, they got caught and they know they did wrong and they don't bother coming here for an appeal. Where do you draw the line on the tolerance policy? If it were up to me, the game would be so locked down and anyone that touched brightness would be permanently banned. We have to weigh each case and the decisions aren't always easy.
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so will pit be joining the admin team again in the future?
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Another fact: he didn't hack to fuck up the game, he only hacked to own other hackers/glitchers/tweakers.
I'm not (was not) one of them and it hit me also.
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so will pit be joining the admin team again in the future?
Anyone that has something to contribute to this project is welcome to help.
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let the people that appreciate the game and our efforts have the fun.
Those efforts have just been deminished with allowing Pit back....Plain and simple Nate.Who are you trying to kid????
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Anyone that has something to contribute to this project is welcome to help.
I'd be more than welcome to help,but Pit has to be out of the project.
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guys, u can all come in here and talk all the shizznit u want. Its not gonna change the minds of Jonny and the other admins. A hard choice was made, and im sure the decision is final no matter who comes in here raising hell :D
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if you unban PIT then the other player must also unban if a second chance pit to get the others a second chance I see the opportunity to get or wrong
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:D unbelievable pit whas hacking acc he cheat in game and np pit come back unbelievable :up:
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Those efforts have just been deminished with allowing Pit back....Plain and simple Nate.Who are you trying to kid????
You just said he's banned on your server and that's completely your choice. But, if he can't play on your server, how is this going to affect you?
We are mature people here that are often compassionate, understanding and willing to give a second chance. If you have had a talk with Pit, you would see that he's not the kind of person that runs around purposely ruining people's fun.
I'm afraid playing only legit is not an option for me anymore. Even when I do, idiots start talking to me, kicking, etc., so I rage, turn it on, and go after them... Not to mention when I meet some "pro" players.
But it's not important anyway, as I'm not planing to play this game in the long run.
Perfect example from just minute ago: i played legit, had some pleasure in it. Then [removed] and his idiot friends started pb_kick-ing me. It's how it goes.
Cause or effect?
I haven't seen the discussion between Jonny and Pit (and I don't need to) but Jonny is a tough SOB that doesn't take shit. If he believes Pit and is willing to give a second chance then I stand by his decision.
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:D unbelievable pit whas hacking acc he cheat in game and np pit come back unbelievable :up:
I guess the rest of the community are so-called TWATS Don....too funny!!!
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I'd be more than welcome to help,but Pit has to be out of the project.
You've had plenty of time to contribute something. Pit's been out of the project for quite a while.
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oh lawd guys Cry Me A River. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!!!
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Wow. what a low blow to the whole community. Thats extremely sad, I never knew he was involved with assist. That makes it even worse!
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We are mature people here that are often compassionate, understanding and willing to give a second chance. If you have had a talk with Pit, you would see that he's not the kind of person that runs around purposely ruining people's fun.
than give the ohters all hacker and chetar players the second change
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Wow. what a low blow to the whole community. Thats extremely sad, I never knew he was involved with assist. That makes it even worse!
That's been public for a long time. He had total control over the project when Jonny left a year or so ago. Then Sergio took over Pit and then ELiZ and now Jonny's back helping.
than give the ohters all hacker and chetar players the second change
The AHK guys get a second chance. Again, it comes down to where do you draw the line? Obviously the guys caught with the UnrealBot don't deserve a second chance.
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If you have had a talk with Pit, you would see that he's not the kind of person that runs around purposely ruining people's fun.
Obviously you don't play this game actively like the rest of us. :shock:
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Well, he made an opinion about himself and now he is just lost. He will not be respected as he is not respected now. The worst thing is that your (assist crew) reputation might go down also.
Whatever, for me he is not worth any attention. Just wannabe famous, that's all.
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That's been public for a long time. He had total control over the project when Jonny left a year or so ago. Then Sergio took over Pit and then ELiZ and now Jonny's back helping.
The AHK guys get a second chance. Again, it comes down to where do you draw the line? Obviously the guys caught with the UnrealBot don't deserve a second chance.
some were also banned although they have none used the same name I should write!
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Jonny unbanned, but I think we haven't to deal with Server bans/VoteKicks or PB_Kicks , your fault, deal with it.
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Obviously you don't play this game actively like the rest of us. :shock:
Bingo. I've never played with Pit. That's beside the point though.
You guys should realize too that if we catch him again, he will be rebanned right?
Well, he made an opinion about himself and now he is just lost. He will not be respected as he is not respected now. The worst thing is that your (assist crew) reputation might go down also.
Whatever, for me he is not worth any attention. Just wannabe famous, that's all.
Our reputation goes down with every choice we make. Everything we do pisses off SOMEONE. Just gotta keep pushing forward and eventually, the majority of players will be pleased.
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wondering when hes gonna release the Free hacks he mentionated on Shout Box early :)
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Bingo. I've never played with Pit. That's beside the point though.
You guys should realize too that if we catch him again, he will be rebanned right?
No,that IS the point Nate and everyone else posting....Don't you get it???
Rebanned???? Hahaha....Nate made a funny again!!!
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Our reputation goes down with every choice we make. Everything we do pisses off SOMEONE. Just gotta keep pushing forward and eventually, the majority of players will be pleased.
Theoretically better society without official cheater, than with unbanned official cheater.
In first option you just have one player (player? sucker, non player) less. In second option, in long run, it can not bring anything good.
Pushing forward is good, I approve that way, but it must be like in krav maga philosophy- you destroyed your enemy and you go forward, but you must be sure that he will not stand up again at your back and he will not push you with knife without possibility to defence for you. You gave a lot on the poker table, now it will be nervous, really nervous.
He deserved to be destroyed. And he will be by pb_kick or in other way. He dig a hole under himself and he will fall down into it very often.
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No,that IS the point Nate and everyone else posting....Don't you get it???
Rebanned???? Hahaha....Nate made a funny again!!!
will be the 3rd or 4th time..
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yea the most plaers are happy now!!! :D
pit is back HOOOOAH
same rules for all players cheater hacker ban finish. :rtfm:
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the majority of players will be pleased.
The majority of players will quit and all the hard work some admins have been doing will be in vain!
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Yahoo, there are many grey areas. Pit isn't black and white. Let's take a look at iBad. He recently posted a ban appeal on here. Now, we caught him with a custom private script that basically shoots for him (he doesn't have to click as much). He gave us the file, gave us the source and said it was never released and all the evidence is there to make that believable. Now, he wasn't using a no fog hack or radar or anything that serious but he was still caught. Does he deserve to be banned forever? Look at all the people that bought paid hacks just to cheat, they got caught and they know they did wrong and they don't bother coming here for an appeal. Where do you draw the line on the tolerance policy? If it were up to me, the game would be so locked down and anyone that touched brightness would be permanently banned. We have to weigh each case and the decisions aren't always easy.
We are talking about Pit, a guy who did ban players on false assumptions, a guy who chased players who he thought they were cheating, a guy who toke advantage of assist code to bypass the anti-cheat system etc etc, like i said before that makes you all a bunch of hypocrites, i'm even surprise Jonny agreed with that, he proved to be a pretty wise guy.
Anyway it's your decision live with that, but you have no right to ask people to "forgive him" or let him play like he is/was a regular guy.
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admins if you unban a hacker then all must be unban
new update of PB and no manual bans only if you prove
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i could be wrong, but i dont see die hard AA players or even just reg players quitting AA over this.
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all the non-proof bans Pit have made while back were removed by Pit himself. cause the community bitched about.
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all the non-proof bans Pit have made while back were removed by Pit himself. cause the community bitched about.
How about when the chased Kari and even me over and over again cause he's is a fucking noob who has 100000 hours on hospital and he can't not even play it properly...
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I don't know what else to say to you Cheesey.
The bottom lines:
1. I've talked with Pit and he is a nice, rational guy. I believe him.
2. Jonny is a lot stricter than I am and whatever the discussion they had, he too believes Pit. I agree with, stand behind and defend Jonny's decisions. He's always been level-headed and done what's best for the project.
3. Pit can be re-banned if he's lying or tricking us.
i could be wrong, but i dont see die hard AA players or even just reg players quitting AA over this.
Every prediction about AA has been wrong thus far. I doubt most of the AA players even give a shit about this.
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How about when the chased Kari and even me over and over again cause he's is a fucking noob who has 100000 hours on hospital and he can't not even play it properly...
Oh no...not Pit...He's a NICE guy...Remember??? :wanker:
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How about when the chased Kari and even me over and over again cause he's is a fucking noob who has 100000 hours on hospital and he can't not even play it properly...
Who cares :up:, according to him Bollie the big fish :P
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welcome back.
and think about a unban for all players. let's start with a new time and forgive them once.
why not?
like presidents can, you can. maybe start a vote about.
I would say YES.
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I don't know what else to say to you Cheesey.
The bottom lines:
1. I've talked with Pit and he is a nice, rational guy. I believe him.
2. Jonny is a lot stricter than I am and whatever the discussion they had, he too believes Pit. I agree with, stand behind and defend Jonny's decisions. He's always been level-headed and done what's best for the project.
3. Pit can be re-banned if he's lying or tricking us.
Every prediction about AA has been wrong thus far. I doubt most of the AA players even give a shit about this.
I know Spanky...you're kinda caught in the middle of this cluster fuck,but it is what it is bud!
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Sry Johnny I respect you and all the guys behind Assist. Ty for what you guys are doing, but we will NEVER let pit play on our server again.
The reason is not only that he cheated, but he abused his admin power earlier on our server and thats a Thing we will neither forget nor forgive.
So in short words: he will stay banned on our server.
Greetings =]ES[=H3!!Y=]DE[=
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wft spanky other cheater are hacking or what ever =no come back!!!
it is not fair for all players.
it is to mutch bs no more comments...
and yes the same for ht server!!!
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pit is more than welcome on my 2 servers anytime.
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Unban Sly and his gay friend kebab. They used to use AHK because they were not able to fight with me on decent level, and they needed something special to raise their chances.
Tabula rasa for everyone or for noone.
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pit is more than welcome on my 2 servers anytime.
Better Host SF hospital :?
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Sry Johnny I respect you and all the guys behind Assist. Ty for what you guys are doing, but we will NEVER let pit play on our server again.
The reason is not that he cheated, but he abused his admin power earlier on our server and thats a Thing we will neither forget nor forgive.
So in short words: he will stay banned on our server.
Greetings =]ES[=H3!!Y=]DE[=
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yeah we do at times.
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The only thing that occurs to me right now, given your argumentation, is that you unbanned him because you can!
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1st layer > free
2nd layer> ppl make "Justice" with their own Hands
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wft spanky other cheater are hacking or what ever =no come back!!!
it is not fair for all players.
it is to mutch bs no more comments...
and yes the same for ht server!!!
:idea: :idea: :idea:
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Great sig Bigg...can I borrow it also??? :up:
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Great sig Bigg...can I borrow it also??? :up:
sure man
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You guys don't know about my history but you can pretty easily look it up on that account history site. I've moved since I've been banned but if you dig deep enough, you can find all my official bans with my IP address 64.126.161.69. I used to hack. A lot. I used to take down servers with Crusade. I used to fuck around and do all kinds of irresponsible jerk-level stuff. I've lost count of the number of chances I've gotten. I hated those people that banned me so I hacked to piss them off and fuck them over. Back in the day, that was the tU clan, The Untouchables. They were big with anti-cheat and had the most popular server on 2.3. I've been talking a little bit with a tU clan member, AgentStone via PM:
Sure I remember you, I may be wrong but was it the {DG} guys and yourself that used to come test your private hacks on our server? (I'll take it as a compliment, there was a time when we ran some very popular servers)
Point is, that's all a long time ago. I don't do that anymore. People change. It's up to you if you want to believe him or not. We're not removing bans that you admins place on your servers, you're free to do what you want as far as that goes.
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sure man
Thanks mate!
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Thanks mate!
np :up:
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You guys don't know about my history
There is a big difference spanky. You changed your mind and stopped cheating thats one point, but you never ever joined OUR server as admin. The server we pay for, the server we own.
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First off i am one the the the complexion players that was using unreal bot. we used it for a couple weeks, and mainly it was just to see what it was like cause i have never cheated in the past. You definitely caught us and our punishment was just even though it sucks lol. If Pit23 who used Aimbot, and many other cheats that made him nearly unkillable deserves a 2nd chance then myself(beyond), teekay, and intensity also deserve a 2nd chance. i can for sure tell you we would not use again because all we wanna do is play. plz no flaming we did what we did, now just trying to make a point. sry for any anger we caused and i hope you can understand that we were stupid and just wanna play.
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Point is, that's all a long time ago. I don't do that anymore.
I've a pretty good mind and i do remember why Pit left in the first place, and you know what, that wasn't a long time ago...
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Point taken Nate,and thanks for sharing,but in my view and many others,Pit brought it to a different level and should NOT be given a second chance!
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So as written when the pit is unban it is not fair to the other,
others were ban even though the admins could it prove anything without a reason was the ban
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There is a big difference spanky. You changed your mind and stopped cheating thats one point, but you never ever joined OUR server as admin. The server we payed for, the server we own.
I joined others as admin. Hell, you guys are probably forgetting when me & someone else, it might have been Killaman, we gave ourselves admin via Assist and TK'd people in their own server for stat padding.
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First off i am one the the the complexion players that was using unreal bot. we used it for a couple weeks, and mainly it was just to see what it was like cause i have never cheated in the past. You definitely caught us and our punishment was just even though it sucks lol. If Pit23 who used Aimbot, and many other cheats that made him nearly unkillable deserves a 2nd chance then myself(beyond), teekay, and intensity also deserve a 2nd chance. i can for sure tell you we would not use again because all we wanna do is play. plz no flaming we did what we did, now just trying to make a point. sry for any anger we caused and i hope you can understand that we were stupid and just wanna play.
are you a Waffle guy? if so I guess no, I think Sergio will not be any happy to see his bans getting overruled :D
I call this respect, don't touch my ass and I do not touch yours :P
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Dead people can not be bring back to life, dude. Pit is like Jesus, Possessed's idol- he died then he came back. Weird, impossible things. But there you must be weak enough to believe, here it's for fucking real.
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Pit brought it to a different level and should NOT be given a second chance!
:rtfm: :up:
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Dead people can not be bring back to life, dude. Pit is like Jesus, Possessed's idol- he died then he came back. Weird, impossible things. But there you must be weak enough to believe, here it's for fucking real.
why mad on me, I did nothing, ACAB;
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I joined others as admin. Hell, you guys are probably forgetting when me & someone else, it might have been Killaman, we gave ourselves admin via Assist and TK'd people in their own server for stat padding.
maybe we should ban you too then :D
Na seriously you never did that on our Server, if you would and if we wouldnt have been able to ban you we would have taken our server down once and for all.
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Not mad, low retarded polak provocation :-D I'm not myself without it, lol.
We have a assisT admins here, former cheater, haters, lovers. Polak must be also.
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Not mad, low retarded polak provocation :-D I'm not myself without it, lol.
look at a mirror, u will Pits reflex!
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but hey spanky maybe you should tell us the reason pit cheated, if you really know it.
maybe some of them would change their minds. In case of =]ES[= I made our point clear I think.
And that decision stands.
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Points from both sides have been discussed as far as they can be already. We will wait to see Jonny and Pit's response to this thread tomorrow.
In the mean while, please focus on our efforts to improve this game such as SAI, Player Skins, Maps and Training.
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pit-23
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812911/
Also:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/816090/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/836038/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/835694/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/835199/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/836062/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/836193/
So how many of these accounts does he keep????
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As said in the original post, he was given 1 account.
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Me and pit have come to an arrangement, Pit has agreed that he will no longer be using his cheats in this game and i have agreed to give him back his main account 'pit23'
I understand this will come as a shock to people and this is most defiantly an exception to the rule, Pit has been an assist admin and was the lead coder for a while, he has seen the source and knows exactly how the auth system works, We therefor have no realistic chance of keeping him out of the game. so unbanning him and welcoming him back is they only way he can stop him hacking our game.
Please allow him to play and do not kick him from your server, I will personally guarantee he will not be cheating.
U know what this must be the most shitty post I ever read in aa forums history, u allow him back u should unban all players that u ban for using a cheat, fair is fair u let one back, miss well let em all back, to think I tried to give my help, well we all know where this game is heading, not in the right direction that's for sure,
U know what this must be the most shitty post I ever read in aa forums history, u allow him back u should unban all players that u ban for using a cheat, fair is fair u let one back, miss well let em all back, to think I tried to give my help, well we all know where this game is heading, not in the right direction that's for sure,
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well thats funny and if he get back in the assist team i will lmao
btw u ban 1 from our guys for 1 week for using makro fws and pit was banned for? max 10 days for cheating ingame, hacking servers, hacking accounts from so much people, i think alone 4 from our clan.
gj
edit : i heard our hacked accs is not prooved if it was pit, forget that with our accounts
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well thats funny and if he get back in the assist team i will lmao
btw u ban 1 from our guys for 1 week for using makro fws and pit was banned for? max 10 days for cheating ingame, hacking servers, hacking accounts from so much people, i think alone 4 from our clan.
gj
Pit has been "banned" for much longer than 10 days. The problem was that he kept making new account all the damn time and they couldn't keep up with that level of dedication.
Now he promises to stop hacking for some reason and apparently that's good enough. I'm not buying it, and it seems that nobody else is as well, aside from the admins.
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This will be the last i have to say on this subject. for myself(beyond) and teekay, it has sucked not being able to play. maybe give us another chance after maybe another week or so of being banned. i promise we will make the most of our second chance if u saw fit. I only speak for myself(bey0nd) and teekay. have not talked to intensity. since, and had no idea about davis or format if they really were. again sry to the AA community and the admins that are working very hard to keep this game alive.
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I'm not (was not) one of them and it hit me also.
thats so much horse shit i ever heard spanky
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Anyone that has something to contribute to this project is welcome to help.
i will contribute to keep him off assist all together
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np :up:
lol i used it as well big, love ur sig now my sig as well lol
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Sry Johnny I respect you and all the guys behind Assist. Ty for what you guys are doing, but we will NEVER let pit play on our server again.
The reason is not only that he cheated, but he abused his admin power earlier on our server and thats a Thing we will neither forget nor forgive.
So in short words: he will stay banned on our server.
Greetings =]ES[=H3!!Y=]DE[=
lol funny u say that, he was playing in your server today under 1 of his noob accounts
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a guy who chased players who he thought they were cheating
At the time where he did what he did, private undetected hacks were on the rise,
so he made his moves knowing he could make some collateral damage.
He was sometimes right and he may sometimes have been wrong, that's true.
But at least he did something, in times where many players (also pretty good ones)
complained more and more about different weird players who used those private hacks,
(fucking Ginger) and scoffing at admins by saying "no proof, no guilt, fuck you".
I think things should be put into perspective before lynching someone.
If Pit had been in charge in the few last months and had banned the cxn guys without
proof, everybody would have complained. Thanks to Sergio and his knew ability to
detect private hacks, we now know they are scrubs. Pit didn't have that detection
possibilities at the time.
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At the time where he did what he did, private undetected hacks were on the rise,
so he made his moves knowing he could make some collateral damage.
He was sometimes right and he may sometimes have been wrong, that's true.
But at least he did something, in times where many players (also pretty good ones)
complained more and more about different weird players who used those private hacks,
(fucking Ginger) and scoffing at admins by saying "no proof, no guilt, fuck you".
I think things should be put into perspective before lynching someone.
If Pit had been in charge in the few last months and had banned the cxn guys without
proof, everybody would have complained. Thanks to Sergio and his knew ability to
detect private hacks, we now know they are scrubs. Pit didn't have that detection
possibilities at the time.
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At the time where he did what he did, private undetected hacks were on the rise,
so he made his moves knowing he could make some collateral damage.
He was sometimes right and he may sometimes have been wrong, that's true.
But at least he did something, in times where many players (also pretty good ones)
complained more and more about different weird players who used those private hacks,
(fucking Ginger) and scoffing at admins by saying "no proof, no guilt, fuck you".
I think things should be put into perspective before lynching someone.
If Pit had been in charge in the few last months and had banned the cxn guys without
proof, everybody would have complained. Thanks to Sergio and his knew ability to
detect private hacks, we now know they are scrubs. Pit didn't have that detection
possibilities at the time.
"He was doing it so I started doing it too!!!"
Who the hell actually supports that line of thinking?
If Pit actually gave a fuck about the game he wouldn't have spent his time trying to circumvent his ban, which was for exactly what he was supposedly against.
It's all bullshit though. One of the worst excuses there is and people are eating it up. It's pathetic.
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he wouldn't have spent his time trying to circumvent his ban
What is sad is that he got a ban in the first place for going after hackers with an aimbot,
while real hackers with aimbot lasted in this game much longer than him, just because a
bunch of hypocrits took their defense. That is pathetic.
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but hey spanky maybe you should tell us the reason pit cheated, if you really know it.
Am i the only one who remembers why he left in the first place?
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move to cs:go http://www.twitch.tv/santininha
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What is sad is that he got a ban in the first place for going after hackers with an aimbot,
while real hackers with aimbot lasted in this game much longer than him, just because a
bunch of hypocrits took their defense. That is pathetic.
There really is no arguing against such a moronic post.
Trying to justify hacking because he hacked against other hacks is stupid beyond belief.
That is even if you buy into the whole vigilante bullshit.
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Am i the only one who remembers why he left in the first place?
People were getting pissed that he was doing nothing with the game and banning on assumptions so he got mad and quit. That is essentially what happened.
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Quote from: pit-23 on Monday, November 12, 2012, 18:11:31 PM
Let's make it clear - the main reason were two recent events:
- Spanky "hijacking" the sourceforge project (by removing other admins and taking the donation account)
- Jared hacking down the aao25.com site (by stealing my password, removing some files, deleting all user accounts)
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Hahahahahahahaha I forgot about that :)
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There really is no arguing against such a moronic post.
Someone must be paying you big bucks to hate him that much...
You didn't apparently even read the first post i did and spank agreed upon.
I knew the guy / spoke to him before the whole thing went out of control,
and so did Spanky and Jonny :
I've talked with Pit and he is a nice, rational guy. I believe him.
I don't know if you ever talked to him personally or tried to get to know him better,
so stop judging people without putting things into perspective.
You behave like a carriage horse wearing blinders and that is moronic imo.
And finally, stop being a fucking insulting moron in your posts, it's really getting annoying.
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Someone must be paying you big bucks to hate him that much...
You didn't apparently even read the first post i did and spank agreed upon.
I knew the guy / spoke to him before the whole thing went out of control,
and so did Spanky and Jonny :
I don't know if you ever talked to him personally or tried to get to know him better,
so stop judging people without putting things into perspective.
You behave like a carriage horse wearing blinders and that is moronic imo.
And finally, stop being a fucking insulting moron in your posts, it's really getting annoying.
I'd bet if you talked to and got to know a lot of murderers they wouldn't seem like bad people. Anybody can sweet talk people if they want to. It's their actions, not words that define them. Unfortunately that doesn't bode well for Pit recently. I believe I covered this in the other thread. I don't believe in situational kindness. Either you're a good person or you're not. There is no in between.
Also, you have still failed to say why him hacking because others hack is good.
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I'd bet if you talked to and got to know a lot of murderers they wouldn't seem like bad people
Well if one of those murderers killed the guy who raped my wife i would love him, yes.
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Way to add nothing.
It's true though. A lot of people are good at talking to others. Someone may seem to be the nicest person in the world in a conversation but in reality they're not.
"He seems like a good guy" is a pretty poor reason, especially when you consider his actions, which were hacking and circumventing bans.
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Hahahahahahahaha I forgot about that :)
Make a new signature, maybe people would know what an hypocrite you are...
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Well if one of those murderers killed the guy who raped my wife i would love him, yes.
A pretty poor comparison. Hacking doesn't equate to rape. Not to mention you're using 2 different crimes in that scenario.
Do you really believe in eye for an eye? There's a reason most civilized countries in the world don't operate like that.
I can't believe people are buying into the whole vigilante bullshit.
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Way to add nothing.
Point is you were not in charge at the time when Pit was, so you're not in position
to make any point anyway. Criticize is so easy for bystanders.
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Point is you were not in charge at the time when Pit was, so you're not in position
to make any point anyway.
Nice dodge. How is that even relevant? Why do I need to be in charge to realize what he did after he quit the project was wrong? This literally has nothing to do with his time as the head of the project.
For the record though, I was an admin, and he had 3 admins quit under his "rule," 2 of which were because they didn't like how he was running things. I'm not sure why Spanky quit.
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LADY GAGA 23.
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Quote from: pit-23 on Monday, November 12, 2012, 18:11:31 PM
Let's make it clear - the main reason were two recent events:
- Spanky "hijacking" the sourceforge project (by removing other admins and taking the donation account)
- Jared hacking down the aao25.com site (by stealing my password, removing some files, deleting all user accounts)
Hahahahahahahaha I forgot about that :)
There's nothing amusing about that..... :down:
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This literally has nothing to do with his time as the head of the project.
huh ?? it's because he was so pissed that he couldn't prove anything against people
who did indeed use hacks and mocked him on the forums with the support of a lot of
hypocrits that he went berzerk afterwards. At least acknowledge it and don't be one yourself.
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huh ?? it's because he was so pissed that he couldn't prove anything against people
who did indeed use hacks and mocked him on the forums with the support of a lot of
hypocrits that he went berzerk afterwards. At least acknowledge it and don't be one yourself.
Wait, so you're changing your argument from "he was doing good by hacking against hackers" to "he went crazy after he left." ? Seriously? How are either of those situations good anyways?
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You said "he was doing good by hacking against hackers"
Stop misquoting, i never said it was good, i said i can understand his reasons.
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Hey everyone, let this shit rest.
OR I KILL THE KITTY
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F338%2F12%2F338-1229185609-cat-shoot.jpg&hash=b963012bde2624fb1930a0eb186582a8)
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Hey everyone, let this shit rest.
OR I KILL THE KITTY
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F338%2F12%2F338-1229185609-cat-shoot.jpg&hash=b963012bde2624fb1930a0eb186582a8)
ok, i'm out ;)
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Hey everyone, let this shit rest.
OR I KILL THE KITTY
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F338%2F12%2F338-1229185609-cat-shoot.jpg&hash=b963012bde2624fb1930a0eb186582a8)
You unbanned the biggest hacker we've had in a while. The same guy that was a complete dick on the forums too. What did you expect? Sunshine and rainbows?
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Make a new signature, maybe people would know what an hypocrite you are...
This signature is old and I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
Killa, you said let actions speak for a person, I agree. Let's see how Pit acts.
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This signature is old and I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
Killa, you said let actions speak for a person, I agree. Let's see how Pit acts.
We already did, and it was not good. We can't just give out second chances whenever the hell we feel like it. It's a bad way to run a project. "Zero tolerance!, unless we don't feel like it." If Pit's dumbass deserves a second chance so do a lot of other people caught hacking.
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I could go either way at this point. I see what you're getting at Killa but... *sigh*
I'd really like to see Jonny's view on all this.
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My view is you stand behind my decisions or you vote me off the project, see the leadership election post...