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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, April 12, 2014, 16:45:34 PM
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maybe we should start talking about only 1 account, this would be good.
I would vote for that.
no more tricks and others, only ONE account for aa2assist. the beginning of a good time it would be.
no more changing accounts when banned. no more second and third player names to join more the one clan. no more hiding with clan members to help for advantages. no more, just one account and with that you are responsible like the most of the players in here are.
as you maybe know, players with "old" accounts like me ([SWISS]Falcon) do have the possibility to join maps as "hidden" players. no one would know who this players is. it is used for watching clan members doing play, it is used for (in the sad way) helping clanmembers. it is used for being proud to have more then one account. it is used for unfair behavior.
it should not be like this. only 1 account - stay for it and play with it. I guess it is time to discuss this at the front line. same guidelines for all or none for all. this means 1 account for all or more then 1 for all.
my 2 cents about this "old" fact.
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Long live to the revolution !!
How is this gonna happen btw?
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How about we leave it like is it.
A lot of old players, almost all, has more accounts.... so what...
Merlin go find some real issues/problems, cause this is a non issue in my opinion.
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Merlin go find some real issues/problems
Trust me, he's tryng his best to find problems that aren't problems at all.
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For what it's worth, I wholly agree. No more bypassing with secondary accounts. I've seen players have over 10 when doing background checks.
Shared an account with a friend? Too bad. All of them would be banned anyway if there was questionable activity.
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That's already our policy... I don't get exactly what you want.
Unless you want us to go and ban everyone who already has multiple accounts (we can't actually delete them) but that is way too much work and would be impossible to do.
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good to see u back spanky : )
Don't get too excited. I get bored sometimes and want to see if you kids are still here.
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That's already our policy... I don't get exactly what you want.
Unless you want us to go and ban everyone who already has multiple accounts (we can't actually delete them) but that is way too much work and would be impossible to do.
And by the way Merlin, you were the one whoring SF Extraction 2 days ago with your noob account ...
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Agreed.
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How will you determain who has several accounts, and who has it like me, I sometimes play on my brothers pc, and him on mine, his account aegdskitan and mine SaM.se are therefore conneted on the same ip, same mac and all that. So 2 is the limit to be able to come around the problem of not letting people play on other peoples computer?
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yes, this might be the problem, true.
but if there would be a way it would be very nice. maybe when the showdown with bt comes and aa25assist is using its own tracker, could be a way maybe.
@ganja: sure, I have a 2nd account (and a 3rd, 4th but I don't remember the passwords). and this is not good at all having the possibility doing this. therefor I do make this thread to avoid things like this, because its bullshit (btw didn't camp, just killed you to much then you left as always :))
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I honestly don't see a problem with people using their 2nd accounts or whatever. You're creating a chicken out of a feather.
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I honestly don't see a problem with people using their 2nd accounts or whatever. You're creating a chicken out of a feather.
That's already our policy... I don't get exactly what you want.
as you can see, this is not a feather, this is the policy. ganja for example do cry about teamspeak users when misuseing it while on different teams on battlefield, helping each other. this is much more bad using 2nd accounts on different teams to help each other.
so maybe the tracking should also be stopped for frag rates, not for points at all, but for frag rates. a lot would stop then I guess.
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Just please Merlin stop using my name in every sentence of yours. I have Ares already, it's enough.
And as far as I know, people ghost when they want the round to end faster, not to higher their fragrate, but seems like you don't understand this. You have some kind of obsession with that the last few days ...
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ganja, stop that please, its ridiculous.
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Let's just clear something up, when on the same team, and on teamspeak. Me telling my friend on teamspeak, which is on the same team where the enemy is, ain't ghosting. Same shit as people asking for what their ping is. wtf is wrong with you people.
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Let's just clear something up, when on the same team, and on teamspeak. Me telling my friend on teamspeak, which is on the same team where the enemy is, ain't ghosting. Same shit as people asking for what their ping is. wtf is wrong with you people.
Exactly, if he's on the same team as I am, and I tell him where he is, it is communication, if I tell him what we see from another teammates POV, it is not ghosting either, it's just making up for his lack of communication.
Being on the opposing team and telling the opponent where your teammates are, THAT is ghosting.
About the 2nd account part: the policy is already 1 account per pc. For existing accounts we do not see the problem big enough to take all the effort to ban every second account. It should already be enough that they can't make any new one anymore.
Besides, I don't see why people ban others when they aren't hacking, unless they deliberately teamkill of course. They have a big mouth? so what? It's a game, not a professional job or anything.
Sometimes it is not needed to get upset so easily.
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good words Bart!
I agree. but always complaining about bad pings - this to other players - isn't that good and should be stopped. I did that now.
and for the record: I have now 18 servers on aa2, 1 aa4pg. and I do ban only players on 8 of those servers, the one's with a fair play flag. this is my answer to unfair players which can not be catched at all. I guess this is my right. and I do not ban players like an idiot, only with passion when I got some messages about them - by teammates or others.
so still 8 servers for everybody to play, except ganja.
I will now go back and relax, with emotions for sure, but relaxed. hope I can help further to get players happy and free from unfair players. again sorry for some words I should not have say - you know me know. have a good day all!
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Ganja and merlin you should stop this war between each other, you're a RM after all.
Either way i dont see this as a poblem... I dont see any problems in this thread.....just a little war which shouldn't be happening. You all already causing disease to a community with your fights... there should be respect for each other no matter what that person did.
I guess topic can be locked or we can go on spamming more.
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Unless you want us to go and ban everyone who already has multiple accounts (we can't actually delete them) but that is way too much work and would be impossible to do.
This.
And Spanky, we will still be here next time you visit as well ;)
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:lock:
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Let's just clear something up, when on the same team, and on teamspeak. Me telling my friend on teamspeak, which is on the same team where the enemy is, ain't ghosting. Same shit as people asking for what their ping is. wtf is wrong with you people.
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Unless you'r dead even on same team and you help you'r m8's looking at corners and such is ghosting.
Dead people can't talk.
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Unless you'r dead even on same team and you help you'r m8's looking at corners and such is ghosting.
Dead people can't talk.
There is no way you can tell that, and that's why SAs complaining about that should just turn first person view only.
If they are on the same team, it won't be a problem in that case.
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good idea.
I will put some servers on first person view only.
let's try this. and without open slots. but if no one will join, I will put them back again.
edit:
Airfield, Alley, Bridge and Impact on "first person view only". lets try impact how it works.
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I sometimes play on my brothers pc, and him on mine
Good way to get both banned. Sharing accounts is stupid and will lead to trouble sooner or later.
On the same note, from what I've seen, the vast majority of Israel would be banned since it seems everybody over there shares accounts with everybody else.
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Good way to get both banned. Sharing accounts is stupid and will lead to trouble sooner or later.
On the same note, from what I've seen, the vast majority of Israel would be banned since it seems everybody over there shares accounts with everybody else.
Banned for what? If you're gonna start banning people based on the accounts linked to their pc's, with no cheating history. You're fucked m8. And this game will die, completley within 3 months. I've stuck around for longer than i care to admit, but that'd be the nail in the coffin banning accounts based on your twisted aspect of "fair play"
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Banned for what? If you're gonna start banning people based on the accounts linked to their pc's, with no cheating history. You're fucked m8. And this game will die, completley within 3 months. I've stuck around for longer than i care to admit, but that'd be the nail in the coffin banning accounts based on your twisted aspect of "fair play"
What he's saying is if one of you cheats, both will get banned.
He's talking hypothetically, he's not going to ban you for nothing.
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Banned for what? If you're gonna start banning people based on the accounts linked to their pc's, with no cheating history. You're fucked m8. And this game will die, completley within 3 months. I've stuck around for longer than i care to admit, but that'd be the nail in the coffin banning accounts based on your twisted aspect of "fair play"
lol. Start? That's been our banning policy ever since Assist started. When one of your accounts get banned, all of them get banned. Needless to say, it's lasted for a lot longer than 3 months.
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lol. Start? That's been our banning policy ever since Assist started. When one of your accounts get banned, all of them get banned. Needless to say, it's lasted for a lot longer than 3 months.
If one of cheats, yes ofc. We don't even share accounts tho, we play on eachothers computer from time to time, with our own accounts. I thought he meant they'll start banning every 2nd account that is linked to another one. Which is what he pretty much wrote.
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We're not going to ban any 2nd accounts, just because there are so many and it would be too much work.
The rule is, and to my knowledge has been that way since it was introduced, that you're not allowed to create a new account if you already have one.
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If one of cheats, yes ofc. We don't even share accounts tho, we play on eachothers computer from time to time, with our own accounts. I thought he meant they'll start banning every 2nd account that is linked to another one. Which is what he pretty much wrote.
It all depends on how often. Normally we can tell who actually owns what account and who is just playing on their friend's/sibling's PC. However, if you do it often enough it gets more difficult to tell and a blanket ban might occur. We haven't really had such a situation though.
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I haven't played for quite a few months but i do have a lot of accounts.
The rule was imposed in a period with a few cheaters that created accounts every minute. We have created that rule, forced as requirements to complete trainings and that's good in a way, but bad in others. Nowadays we don't have all those issues and even if i like trainings i do think they make us loose more players because not everyone that starts playing the game don't want to spend time training, they just want to shoot people.
Not being able to play undercover so that others don't known them is also bad, imo, i did enjoy to play without none knowing you i was, i could spectate possible cheaters, i could play freely and it felt good.
I do realize this is my opinion and many others may disagree with me, just stating that second or third account not always have to be bad... Maybe with the release of the public background tool, one day, will solve this ;)
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Hazard ACI tool shouldn't have ever been released to the public just for the fact that most ppl didnt have a fucking clue how to do a proper background check. "oh you have a red linked account, you're banned". Unless you release a watered down version and is not akin to aci's tool. I wouldnt even bother releasing it. Will turn everything into a witch hunt. It doesnt really serve a purpose for assist users anyway, as all banned accounts are barred from making a new account anyway. So it will just show flaws (if any) in your background checks on ppl making new accounts, basically the only upside i can see is that some ppl may be able aid the admins on users that have slipped through the net. If ppl want to play anomymous that should be thier choice. But seeing as if someone asks on this forum for "who is this player linked too" you post it here anyway, which again i dont think is anybodies business unless they are breaking rules or hacking/cheating.
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Exactly what I thought Bendawich, releasing ACI tool was the worst decision the organizations ever made, a lot of incompetent admins thinking they can check whatever they want (playing on the "same IP" when the banned guy already had another IP for 3 months, overlapping logins via different IPs etc. They do not watch it because they think red=bad)
EVERY cheater has ALL their linked accounts banned, simple, if he isn't banned, he isn't caught cheating. Simple as it is, no BG check needed.
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hey Bart!
some people may be so stupid, but its not the majority :)
most of the admins do know how to read ACI
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Experience about the past showed otherwise.
However now there are less admins maybe some will know. Still I think it is not needed since every linked account of a cheater is banned instantly.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
but ok, it was discussed here. all I did want.