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Jonny, I know you're busy fixing bugs and making sure Auth is running properly but I wanted to make a list and a poll for everybody to see the positives and negatives for merging modes. It seems like to me that regular non-Assist servers aren't being used and there's only 3 or so of them but I know you do want to make it so anybody can play anywhere. Feel free to edit this post to add your positives & negatives.

Keep in mind that we can do most of the positives already but they would only be available in mAAp mode, the reason why it hasn't been done is that a lot of people don't play mAAp mode but regular mode.


Positives:
Customize the game in depth: AA3 weapon sounds, higher resolution HUD icons, custom loading screen.
No need for duplicate files like the modded T_UI2
Trim down installation size by removing useless textures/meshes/code
Custom in-game icons like those for 100+ honor or developer icons
No moving files before joining a server, get in the action faster

Negatives:
Can't play on non-Assist servers such as DNAF.

are we able to increase/decrease certain sounds, so u cant sound camp as effectively, (pipe being a huge sound camping dream and a perfect example of how super human the hearing is) lowering footsteps so they can be heard at a much smaller radius. ja ja ja ja, Salat Flugzeug beischlaf U-Boot; skrewy verfolgen riesig Rute dicke Mann

Anything is possible. That would require coding though.

Here's how things are in AA:
-You have a class called pawn
--Inside this class defines the basics of all players/pawns.
--Things defined include animation, sounds they make, skins, etc.

Lets take the footsteps example:
-Class pawn
--Depending on what surface theyre in contact with they create certain sounds
--If the surface is metal, select one sound to play from the 'metal footsteps' array
---The player takes a step and that sound is played. Sound radius and volume are already set.
--If the surface is wood, " "
---The player takes a step and " "

 and so on and so on.

There isn't really a way to reduce the volume or radius of footsteps on a single map. You can't really make an efficient exception for a certain map either, the game doesn't understand the concept of a 'map.'


We can look into ways to reduce the volume or something per map, but I don't know how that works unless I have the editor pulled up.
What we can do is add more sounds into the map so its harder to listen for other players walking around.

I think its a good idea, cant people give those a nudge who wont use assist on their servers and convince them too

Here's how things are in AA:
-You have a class called pawn
--Inside this class defines the basics of all players/pawns.
--Things defined include animation, sounds they make, skins, etc.

Lets take the footsteps example:
-Class pawn
--Depending on what surface theyre in contact with they create certain sounds
--If the surface is metal, select one sound to play from the 'metal footsteps' array
---The player takes a step and that sound is played. Sound radius and volume are already set.
--If the surface is wood, " "
---The player takes a step and " "

 and so on and so on.

There isn't really a way to reduce the volume or radius of footsteps on a single map. You can't really make an efficient exception for a certain map either, the game doesn't understand the concept of a 'map.'


We can look into ways to reduce the volume or something per map, but I don't know how that works unless I have the editor pulled up.
What we can do is add more sounds into the map so its harder to listen for other players walking around.

Is it not possible to override class so that if PlayerX's Position  is > Distance to Player i  footsound not loaded. ??

I think it would be neat to merge maap and normal aa. As i was telling nate, once maap pipeline was finished I think it should be the new pipeline for 2.5. I think by doing this we can show that we are wanting to make progress for 2.5 it could be done like 2.5.2; Have the community vote for new maps, and we could fix bugs in the already made maps, to make 2.5 even better.

I would advise not to edits sounds, AA has a foundation that has been here for years and thats why we all like to play this game, if you start changing things people wont like it and most likely leave or not play.

Its 2012 and a sound card is like only $100.00 so go get one.

Jared, i think your idea is great... but most of the poele wont like you taking out a map to put another, is what i dislike of AA3 in the first place.

  i love map diversity most people like playing mAAp but the always go back to basic remeber that.

Killa then just like you said, don't play that way. simple.

Anyways most people with sounds cards don't play that way either unless they are the last ones alive and are trying to win or come in clutch.

@mister pipeline is still pipeline its just an updated the version nothing has been taken out. The only minus to this is that if competitive play was to come back the new pipeline couldn't be used.

so the person that put money into his machine or bought good headphones should be the one to get penalized? If you want to compete on that level then you should do the same, and not bitch about it.

If you don't want to use sound then don't complain about losing 9 times out of 10