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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: Southofheaven on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 07:10:31 AM
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it is my impression or everyday we get less players playing the game? i see some people asking for account activation but i see less and less players... i dont have a great idea to call people out. the only thing that cross my mind is put only thoose maps that i now we all love but very rare to see playing.. think this that im saying in not new but we could try... there is too many discussions about cheaters and tks and banned players when we maybe should be speacking about new ways to increase the number of players. :up:
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There are more servers than players
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I guess I don't understand. Of the 130 servers online as I type this 89 of them are AA 2 only maps and not including any [maap] maps either. Out of the 89 there is 29 different original AA 2 maps available to play now and the 49 people on playing now are playing four different AA 2 maps. People seem to have their favorite and go to it more times than not. Currently pipeline, bridge, urban assault, and sf hospital seem to be what the majority want to play. I know what you mean but people are a creature of habit and tend to be more at home, or comfortable playing maps they think they are good at.
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I know what you mean but people are a creature of habit and tend to be more at home, or comfortable playing maps they think they are good at.
i think thats a bit what i think we could change... people are playing thoose maps all the time... what i think we can change is for example.. ate the begining of the night if we have 2 or 3 players in less used maps the rest will follow.. "if you bild they will come" :P i dont now.. im just trying to figure out some solution to people stay playing...
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There are more servers than players
Very true.. at least online at same time...
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I do every night around 20.00 CEST maps changes. like dusk, water, swamp, river, pcr and others.
and almost every time around 10-20 players. just for the one who would like to play something else :D
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I do every night around 20.00 CEST maps changes. like dusk, water, swamp, river, pcr and others.
and almost every time around 10-20 players. just for the one who would like to play something else :D
i now merlin... i also try so change a bit the maps but only once or twice i got people there.. just miss alot thoose maps whit lots of people... specially river basin :)
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The ability for everyone to put a server online (own or leased) killed the duck.
"Too much choice killed the choice" as they say in the business world..
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the summer is coming....
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the summer is coming....
So if God took out the Summer season, AA would then go bankrupt ? :P
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hey zoxee - true, a lot of servers out there, BUT:
look how many do set up the same map. that's a bit the problem. I also did hate to play other maps then mountain pass and extraction, but after a wile, I love it to play other maps. it isn't that much boring anymore then
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Redundancy over the total number of servers is not the problem.
The only way to make people play other maps would be that assist
only displays online servers with the same map for a day, then the same
with another map the next day and so on.
With this method, each of us would be forced to play 7 different maps every week ;)
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Redundancy over the total number of servers is not the problem.
The only way to make people play other maps would be that assist
only displays online servers with the same map for a day, then the same
with another map the next day and so on.
With this method, each of us would be forced to play 7 different maps every week ;)
Forcing people to do something is considered a dictatorship and in no uncertain terms will kill AA 2 faster than any thing else. Just look at what happened when the army couldn't get us to play AA3. They shut down all support for AA2 trying make us play their crappy, buggy AA3. That is why some quit AA altogether and why alot of us are here now.
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So if God took out the Summer season, AA would then go bankrupt ? :P
ik weis nicht was du da mit gott und der welt schnackst aber es war doch schon immer so das zum sommer einige leute auch ma nach drau?en gehn und bissel das wetter geni?en oder? :D
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forcing is not good, but u could motivate ppl to play different maps with a rewarding system.
my thesis is:
new people are old people. in ancient army-times every map had their own community. like mountain pass, hqr, radio tower, csar etc.
bigger communities like bridge and hospi still exist, cause the maps get played. i see a lot of these old guys come back and leave again, because their map doesnt get played. if certain maps get played regularly again, they come back to play.
so the aim should be to make sure, all these new "old" players get what they are looking for, the possiblity to play their map. all the new activations dont help untill u make them stay with the game.
with higher numbers of players its easier to provide that and we get in a win-win situation.
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Honestly, you guys don't even know how many activation requests we gets. It's a ton. At least 30 a day. It's ridiculously disproportional with the amount of players we have.
I don't know why we have all these activation requests and nobody playing, but this has been happening ever since Assist started. We have 30,000 Assist downloads and only like 300 players (not on all at once obviously). So I don't think it's training.
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What Saltuarius said has something... Here is a concrete idea :
I propose that aa25 admins open a special section in the forums called "Maps".
Inside of this section we could launch like 10-15 threads, each for one map.
Every fan / specialist of some map should then leave his Battletracker link in
the according thread, so after a while, we could maybe identify say 6 players
per thread / map. Once this is done, each squad of six would commit to play
on a server for like 1 hour a day on a regular basis.
Like this, all those old players who like a special map but never played it till
now because according servers were always empty would notice that their
favorite map is being played regularly once a day for an hour and would then
themselves show up more regularly an also bring over some friends.
Any volunteers ?
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forcing is not good, but u could motivate ppl to play different maps with a rewarding system.
What about double honor points for a specific map for a week? The map changes weekly. No forcing users this way, just encouraging them.
We have 30,000 Assist downloads and only like 300 players (not on all at once obviously). So I don't think it's training.
It could very well be training. Activation requests for users that leave once activated? Sounds like training to me. Don't get me wrong, I still think training is excellent for the game but it's always hurt the playerbase. Perhaps a "trial" period could be put in place where non-trained users are allowed to play 15 minutes per day until they qualify for the first level of training. Or let them play without training but only until they reach 11 honor or ??
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I think letting them play without training a little could be a good idea. This feature was added to the game later on as well if I'm not mistaken.
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same gameplay and training is a problem
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i dont think training is the problem.. that medic class is boring but if we facilitate the answers its fast... maybe if we do random maps each weak could work...??? pick 5 maps one week other 5 another week.. could work? dont now..
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seems sharing my idea had the same effect than filling up a pisspot :D
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i didnt read every post :) but if it is the same it means that maybe it could work :P or not :up:
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I agree with the double honor on specific maps. You could just trial it. Would be nice to see ppl playing on some of the more unusual maps both old and new. Good incentive, even if honor is pretty much useless it would still attract ppl to join.
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Is double honor even possible? Right now BT handles all of the points and honor and we have no way of changing it as far as I know. Unless a mod could be made and forced on all servers? Other than that about the only thing we could do is edit the maps to make the obj give double points but that would be a very large download for everyone each week so no viable.
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another thing we can do as players is pub about the game... i think there is lots of player that played the game and have no idea about assist.. if everyone brings back one player that means the double of what we got now.
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ik weis nicht was du da mit gott und der welt schnackst aber es war doch schon immer so das zum sommer einige leute auch ma nach drau?en gehn und bissel das wetter geni?en oder? :D
Hast recht. Ich gehe meistens am See un lasse mir einen blasen :D
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most ppl left for the obvious reason. AA3 BF3 etc. And as someone mentioned already maybe in this or the another thread. people have got good on a perticuler map and wont move. Removing trianing would help some player stay and give them an even platform. The other reason for server requests are because you have clans that stay on the easy side being def, and its difficult for new player to get a feel good factor whist being raped by experinced players. Man is selfish at his core. Its always about me. Most ppl are selfish and dont like a balenced challange. Pure selfishness is what it all comes down to. That is why the game is dead. And add to that cheats that you are all sure unsure of. Spend some time finding cheats.
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Is double honor even possible? Right now BT handles all of the points and honor and we have no way of changing it as far as I know. Unless a mod could be made and forced on all servers? Other than that about the only thing we could do is edit the maps to make the obj give double points but that would be a very large download for everyone each week so no viable.
Well Eliz was able to reduce points on Poolday, Square etc ..
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I'm pretty sure he changed the map for that
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i think honor doesnt have the riquered importance anymore. u could make a new classification though, where u need more points for a certain honor, so all the honor 110 are back to 70, 90 to 50, 70 to 40, 50 to 30... in this range....but i dont think that honor really works anymore.