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Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Lag on Servers
« on: Thursday, August 15, 2013, 08:10:31 AM »
I do not really like players coming on a server and start to cry out
"what a noob laggy server this is"

as you can check by yourself below, not the server is the problem - it is the internet by playerside. this shows you exactly the hops and the time (dos command = tracert). so from Switzerland to Ungary all good, and then it goes to finland and - over with good internet connection...

  1    25 ms    27 ms    27 ms  134-220-3-213.bluewin.ch [213.3.220.134]
  2    29 ms    27 ms    27 ms  i79zhb-025-hun0-8-0-0.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.17]
  3    35 ms    35 ms    35 ms  i00ffm-015-hun0-6-0-0.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.29]
  4    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  ae2-0.ffm2nqp1.de.ip.tdc.net [80.81.192.16]
  5    73 ms    72 ms    73 ms  xe-0-0-0.pos-pe2.fi.ip.tdc.net [62.236.2.156]
  6     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
  7    77 ms    75 ms    78 ms  hg24.netikka.fi [81.209.123.24]

so if you are not sure where the problem could be located, just run in a dos box the "tracert" command. then you know, that your sever is not the problem at all.

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, August 15, 2013, 08:36:47 AM »
When I die: fucking lag!
Dont care where its from ;)

Offline Rob_LD

Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #2 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 01:59:02 AM »
Actually tracert show you the path and time of an ICMP echo request.
Cause those packets have lower priority to "real traffic" they will get in line or send detours if the router is busy handling high priority packets.

So the round-trip time reflected by tracert can differ to those of TCP.

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #3 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 02:19:03 AM »
25ms first hop is not good merlin is that ADSL? Here in the UK on fibre broadband you can get your first hop down to 8ms. Our dedicated with server has a 2ms first hop. Its an indication of how far you are from the core of the internet.

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #4 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 02:31:30 AM »
The first hop from my home PC is ~20ms.
And there is no doubt, my connection is horrible.

Thats what my dedicated server looks like:
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1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  85.214.1.2
 2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  85.214.0.100
 3     1 ms     2 ms     3 ms  62.157.250.33
 4    11 ms    10 ms    10 ms  217.239.37.154
 5    12 ms    16 ms    15 ms  80.157.130.222
...

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #5 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 03:11:00 AM »
39 ms 1 hop, I pwn.
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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #6 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 03:14:00 AM »
39 ms 1 hop, I pwn.

That's to your LAN server isn't it?
It's like shaving your pubes to make your junk look bigger.
Might look bigger, but it aint.....

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #7 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 08:11:23 AM »
That's to your LAN server isn't it?

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Rastreando a rota para aao25.com [199.231.210.200]

com no m ximo 30 saltos:



  1     *        *        *     Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido. //This is the router, can't ping, internal firewall rule :)

  2    39 ms    41 ms    39 ms  200217090103.user.veloxzone.com.br [200.217.90.103]

  3    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  200164013165.user.veloxzone.com.br [200.164.13.165]

  4    40 ms    40 ms    39 ms  ge-13-3-0.100-arc-rj-rotn-j01.telemar.net.br [200.223.46.86]

  5   144 ms   145 ms   146 ms  xe-6-1-0.0-nyc-us-rotb-j02.telemar.net.br [200.223.46.130]

  6   168 ms   169 ms   169 ms  63.243.128.77

  7   168 ms   167 ms   167 ms  63.243.128.70

  8   171 ms   169 ms   169 ms  be3011.ccr21.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.17]

  9   170 ms   174 ms   164 ms  te0-6-0-4.mpd21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.249]

 10   188 ms   181 ms   186 ms  te0-5-0-0.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.82]

 11   186 ms   186 ms   185 ms  te0-1-0-4.ccr22.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.78]

 12   178 ms   183 ms   184 ms  te3-1.mag01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.182]

 13   185 ms   186 ms   186 ms  te2-2.ccr01.ord12.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.86.166]

 14   185 ms   184 ms   185 ms  10.42.88.38.in-addr.arpa [38.88.42.10]

 15   179 ms   176 ms   179 ms  dc02r02cr01.scalabledns.com [192.80.184.14]

 16   183 ms   181 ms   183 ms  138.208-231-199.rdns.scalabledns.com [199.231.208.138]

 17   183 ms   177 ms   183 ms  200.210-231-199.rdns.scalabledns.com [199.231.210.200]



Rastreamento conclu¡do.
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
John 16:33


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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #8 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 08:11:33 AM »
And for about two weeks now there is off and on severe lag on a bunch of servers, it's not just one or two. And has nothing to do with people joining servers they are to far from, there is an actual problem.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #9 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 10:27:54 AM »
And for about two weeks now there is off and on severe lag on a bunch of servers, it's not just one or two. And has nothing to do with people joining servers they are to far from, there is an actual problem.

yes, this is probably another reason for some lag. but look at this guy coming from Tel Aviv, it is for sure a internet connection problem on his side:

Player -.BuLLeT.- (one of our Isreal friends), IP: 2.55.135.48 and the result of "tracert":

 7 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms 134-220-3-213.bluewin.ch [213.3.220.134]
 8 30 ms 27 ms 27 ms i79zhb-025-hun0-8-0-0.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.17]
 9 44 ms 43 ms 44 ms i00lon-015-ten4-2.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.194]
 10 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms edge.lon-01012.net.il [195.66.225.114]
 11 54 ms 49 ms 49 ms EDGE-FRA-02-ge-4-0-0-126.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.170]
 12 57 ms 55 ms 55 ms EDGE-FRA-01-ae3-51.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.163]
 13 56 ms 64 ms 64 ms EDGE-FRA-02-ae0-0.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.82]
 14 55 ms 56 ms 56 ms 80.179.166.54.static.012.net.il [80.179.166.54]
 15 158 ms 116 ms 117 E-MR-so-9-1-0-0.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.30]
 16 118 ms 119 ms 117 ms CORE-1.MRK-gig4-6.bb.012.net.il [212.199.5.158]
 17 118 ms 117 ms 117 ms 82.102.133.173

this shows me, that the internet connection from TelAviv to -.BuLLeT.'s-home is not really good. and this is not a problem of the server.

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #10 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 10:33:54 AM »
@Possessed:

this is really the big problem of the internet, right?
your route from your home to the server at Chicago is

Brasil - Montreal - San Francisco - Kansas - Las Vegas - Chicago

lol. but do not tell me you have no lag at all :D

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #11 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 10:38:06 AM »
25ms first hop is not good merlin is that ADSL? Here in the UK on fibre broadband you can get your first hop down to 8ms. Our dedicated with server has a 2ms first hop. Its an indication of how far you are from the core of the internet.

yes Jonny, that's VDSL with the max. speed of copper cable (50000/5000). I could have fibre broadband too, but only in about 3 month; not at the moment.

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #12 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 19:37:56 PM »
yes, this is probably another reason for some lag. but look at this guy coming from Tel Aviv, it is for sure a internet connection problem on his side:

Player -.BuLLeT.- (one of our Isreal friends), IP: 2.55.135.48 and the result of "tracert":

 7 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms 134-220-3-213.bluewin.ch [213.3.220.134]
 8 30 ms 27 ms 27 ms i79zhb-025-hun0-8-0-0.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.17]
 9 44 ms 43 ms 44 ms i00lon-015-ten4-2.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.194]
 10 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms edge.lon-01012.net.il [195.66.225.114]
 11 54 ms 49 ms 49 ms EDGE-FRA-02-ge-4-0-0-126.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.170]
 12 57 ms 55 ms 55 ms EDGE-FRA-01-ae3-51.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.163]
 13 56 ms 64 ms 64 ms EDGE-FRA-02-ae0-0.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.82]
 14 55 ms 56 ms 56 ms 80.179.166.54.static.012.net.il [80.179.166.54]
 15 158 ms 116 ms 117 E-MR-so-9-1-0-0.ip4.012.net.il [80.179.166.30]
 16 118 ms 119 ms 117 ms CORE-1.MRK-gig4-6.bb.012.net.il [212.199.5.158]
 17 118 ms 117 ms 117 ms 82.102.133.173

this shows me, that the internet connection from TelAviv to -.BuLLeT.'s-home is not really good. and this is not a problem of the server.
Oh I am not disputing your findings. Sorry if it came across that way. I was just trying to add about what I have been experiencing, and what I have been hearing from others for around two weeks or so.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #13 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 19:39:55 PM »
thank you very much Mixk. I did not know that with the other lags :)

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Re: Lag on Servers
« Reply #14 on: Friday, August 16, 2013, 20:51:20 PM »
@Possessed:

this is really the big problem of the internet, right?
your route from your home to the server at Chicago is

Brasil - Montreal - San Francisco - Kansas - Las Vegas - Chicago

lol. but do not tell me you have no lag at all :D
I have a Great ping in Cyba Canadian servers than in anyother USA Server lol.
I tought every international route from BR passed by Miami first., almost no difference when I join Chicago or Atlanta Server(Atlanta is near and near miami )
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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