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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: ^^UnDiSpUtEd^^ on Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 13:55:24 PM
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Hey guys, Many people considering about knife:) Also asked me to post here about this. Knifes back on AA?
In real army soldiers do use knifes it would be old fashion :) I remember when there was knifes it was uselful, i quess there was I can't remmeber but please bring this into discussion.
Thanks
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I don't think it's possible to add new weapons to 2.5.
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I don't think it's possible to add new weapons to 2.5.
How?
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How?
You would need to change the game code, something we obviously don't have access to.
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I remember this being a huge discussion on the official america's army forums a long time ago.
It's not going to happen.
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Why are you guys so negative? Of course it's possible! It's actually quite feasible as well if we had a coder, modeler and basic animator. People made new weapons all the time for UT2004...
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Why are you guys so negative? Of course it's possible! It's actually quite feasible as well if we had a coder, modeler and basic animator. People made new weapons all the time for UT2004...
I thought you needed the game code, especially for something like a knife. Hell, the shotguns are just reskinned snipers.
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Becuase I have no idea how to do animation lol.
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It can't be too difficult for a knife. Even if it's basic implementation like having a directional frag in your hands that doesn't move when you stab someone.
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Alright fine. Spanky convinced me to try. But we still have to do the essentials first before we make knives.
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*sits back, lets blue do all the work*
I'm such a motivational speaker.
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It can't be too difficult for a knife. Even if it's basic implementation like having a directional frag in your hands that doesn't move when you stab someone.
I don't want it to end up being lame like the knife in CoD. That's just stupid.
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so what if it was made into a weapon that wasn't a one hit kill? i have to agree with killa that the knife in CoD is fucking annoying. what if the AA knife caused bleeding and made them go down a color level (therefore 3 knifes = death, 1 knife from green = yellow, ect).
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That could be done, we can easily set the amount of damage a weapon does.
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blue have a try its worth it, we want knives !!!!:P lol i know u not gona do it but best is to throw it at enemy:P
Anyways have a try blue and others its very big discossion:) do it lame way if u cant do as a master:P
Thanks
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Frankly I'm against having knives. We got along perfectly fine without them, not to mention they would be pretty much useless. I would say to not alter the game much. Veterans could be turned off by it.
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I consider myself a veteran and I would fucking love a knife. Can't tell you how many times I've rushed an enemy to try and knife just to be disappointed into a karma ragdoll.
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yeah but i mean doesn't it suck when you run out of ammo and you have literally no way of doing damage to an enemy who's right next to you? IRL they would at the very least be able to punch each other.
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Lets bring back the fists.
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yeah but i mean doesn't it suck when you run out of ammo and you have literally no way of doing damage to an enemy who's right next to you? IRL they would at the very least be able to punch each other.
It's like next to impossible to run out of ammo in AA, You get so much.
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not saying you completely run out of ammo, just in a situation where you have to reload and you find yourself close to an enemy.
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I'm gonna be the first to fist Blue.
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i thought you'd already done it...?
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Look everybody! Sic can tell a joke!
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who said i couldn't? :)
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Hope you guys aren't serious...
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I call dibs on fisting Yahoo.
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Dev's never finished the h&K mp5, theres a HUD icon in the game and a 3rd person model in 2.8.x, I suggest mp5 as a new weapon, there are unreal engine games that have a mp5(like SWAT 4, it comes with Editor), is possible to copy the models and animations?
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I would use the mp5 all day
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mp5? Is that really necessary? Same with the knife. Is that even worth the time? I think time would be better spent on maps. The core gameplay in 2.5 is near perfect, which is why there are still people playing it. I don't think we should mess around with it much because then we have to do a bunch of balancing and what not. Not to mention that I don't think the Army even uses the MP5.
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But many people would like knives back to AA, yes shotguns would also good gun which many likes it, but why you all against it? I think for right now we have enough maaps on aa, why not getting on weapons now? Nobody is good at coding but in time it can be learned. This community has more work on other things than maaps now. We have enough of them:) Don't see bigs or glitches.
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go play cod if you wana have a knife...
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Thanks for contributing to the conversation elementx+, your thorough ideas will be considered by our dev team.
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Public relations at its best :D btw people please, if you don't like an idea as much as a concept related to new things that might get implemented, just go deeper than a 4 words sentence. It gets frustrating trying to get across a debate where people just doesn't appear to be willing at offering a meaningful contribute.
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go play cod if you wana have a knife...
I'm +2 on no knifes, the game design doesnt really allow you to sneak up on people and that is the idea of knifes. Simply learn how to reload without being shot or cod play cod which is designed for knifes.
Shotguns are ok for messing around.
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I'd support giving the knife a go after you finish up for the next release or whenever you find time, I'll beta test for it ;)
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i dont think knives belong in aao, agreed that they are for bf3 and cod.. the gameplay is the reason most people play aa 2.x series, if you add mods to game play your probably going divide the 2.x player base aswell (more) imo.... basically how aa3 changed gameplay, they also divided the players.
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Like someone said before in other topics, plz dev's make AA better, but plz don't change the gameplay too much. Knives would be a hige change in my view which will diide the number of player by 10 atleast. I bet 1 people on the 10 wants it ... But they could be funny in maps like urban or shipment. And yes good idea to make the shotgun better, cauz it looks pretty **** for now.
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It actually is. They just didn't bother creating a separate bullet for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_slug
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No knife's make tomahawks ;D
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Fantastic idea. I really miss a melee attack in aa2. There's this weapon kick in AA3, which is helpful, and a knife would be great in AA2. I really hate the situations where i must reload or my gun jams or the game bugs out and doesn't let me reload or shoot or anything. Please make a melee weapon!
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I really hate the situations where i must reload or my gun jams or the game bugs out and doesn't let me reload or shoot or anything. Please make a melee weapon!
Dude it's not about making the game easyer, it's yr responsibility to find a good place to hide or to run away or whatever. Knives don't match with AA, my opinion
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if you guys don't want to get a knife back.. why you guys can't think about a melee attack with a weapon?
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Why previous devs did it?????and people enjoyed it well. If like a weapon is bugged it is secondary one which would be knife...looking for a gun is faster to die than you would have a knife as a defence weapon, also it wouldn't piss off people if you would kill by hitting 3, 4 times tomes, also depends what health the enemy has, I don't know why you so negative about knifes, it wouldn't ruined the game, it would be more fun of the game, also it should be on couple maps, maybe on couple map it would be possible to make. If it does seem to be popular you can think of adding to more maps, it's just to improve game, This game is based on real army, real army soldiers do have knifes, or is it not based for a real army game?
Why you not to try also get some experience doing animation,coding, modeling? Some devs have all day on pc that would be a great idea learning things:)Just my idea:)
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ppl keep saying 'bring knives back' and the 'previous devs did it' ... wtfrly? what version do you have a melee or knife (fully functional)? cuz apparently i missed it.
and imo, melee is the same thing as knifing.... for bf3 and cod games, not aaos
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ppl keep saying bringing knives back and the previous devs did it... wtfrly? what version do you have a melee or knife (fully functional)? cuz apparently i missed it.
and imo, melee is the same thing as knifing.
Yes devs had bringed knifes long time ago about 2,3 years back:) It would be ok if current devs would do that too:P You can try at least to look how it goes:)
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^what version of aao?
edit: aao 2.5 currently has no knife or melee and aao 2.8.5 doesnt have melee or knife... what version of aao are you talkin about? hope its not 3.x
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^what version of aao?
2.5 i think my brain is gona explode!!
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I heard knife's was in version 1.7 to 1.9 but im not sure.
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lol what kind of troll history are you guys spewing here? Nobody here ever played with a knife because never was one.
You could punch the opfor though a long time ago.
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I heard knife's was in version 1.7 to 1.9 but im not sure.
I beleive it was in version 1.x and v2.x had them removed. Beleive Shotgun was also a normal weapon back then also..
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definitely wasnt any version from 1.7-2.5.... and i dont think there was knives even prior, ... i do know in the earlier versions, you could play on cheat servers and do 'mpcheat fist'...and it gives you some fists, but was weird anyways, your fists shot bullets..
edit:, did a little diggin, found this thread: http://battletracker.com/forum/america-s-army-2-x-forums/america-s-army-discussions/173815-knives-in-aa/
cant find anything relating knives in any aao version.. dont think it happened, seems more like a rumor.
but if you do find the exact version that had this, i'd be happy to download it to check it out.
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Don't add knives... Imagine situation when two guys are next to each other reloading their weapons or trying to throw flashbang. That's one of the fun things, that make America's Army the best online fps ever!
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Personally never seen them but have heard from old timers, may have been the very first version..
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as spanky said it could be like not moving knife something thata fist:P lets see when blue has time to try it by himslef:)
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I don't see this ever getting done and I hope it doesn't. It's an unneeded change. Much more trouble than it's worth.
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I'm not a dev but I can imagine there are more important priorities
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I'm not a dev but I can imagine there are more important priorities
Bingo.