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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: hype on Friday, February 20, 2015, 18:20:50 PM

Title: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Friday, February 20, 2015, 18:20:50 PM
This community is far too small, especially NA, to be bullying players on your server to play whatever side you prefer, while stacking your clan on the other. Yes I understand it's your server but you keep doing things like this and soon enough, no one is going to even bother playing there. Not to mention this behavior is toxic towards the community.

For those that weren't there:
We were all having a good time playing on maps such as Urban and MOUT but as soon as a map like "Pipeline SF" was chosen (And I assume any map with assault/defense), their clan forced everyone to switch to Assault or be kicked. If refuse again, banned. I voiced my concerns by asking why we aren't allowed to play defense if we choose, and they muted me. I left the server after that.

I saw someone put in chat from their clan on MOUT about their ping being high (Someone must have asked why they all camp so much) and I'm guessing that's their reasoning for wanting to all be on defense. I play from Japan so if I can suck it up, so can you.

That is all, have a great day.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, February 20, 2015, 20:13:14 PM
play else where fuc k em
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Friday, February 20, 2015, 20:25:10 PM
Typical players, don't expect to be any better, you will find out soon what kind of community this is.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Friday, February 20, 2015, 20:54:39 PM
There's usually only one NA server going at a time lol, unless everyone goes elsewhere - no where else to go. Nevertheless, I did leave anyway.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Koden on Friday, February 20, 2015, 21:06:22 PM
It's nice that someone reaches the forum to point out things like this. On the other hand, people suck, sad that they can't realize what it looks like. I think that matches made of up to 15 rounds max. and forced map rotation at each match should be the average habit around (i played for quite a long time this way, maps never get boring and people don't make too much of a side preference).
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, February 20, 2015, 21:12:11 PM
That's why I love playing on lungs server. Map rotation after every set. Gets to be fun running around not knowing some maps lol. But I always have a great time in there TeamSpeak. . Some I leave needing a bottle of asprins. But we'll worth it
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Nick on Friday, February 20, 2015, 23:43:13 PM
That's why I love playing on lungs server. Map rotation after every set. Gets to be fun running around not knowing some maps lol. But I always have a great time in there TeamSpeak. . Some I leave needing a bottle of asprins. But we'll worth it

Hehe, always a good time on our servers :)
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
The reason clans "stack up" one particular side is usually because they're on TS and don't want to play against eachother.
And if half of the players on a server are from one clan, they will try to join one side. Sad that it has to be defense.
It's not the case always, but it is the case most of the time.

And I also kind of like IL server with it's mapchanges. However, I sometimes find it frustrating that I can't really get settled into a map before it's changed already :D
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Koden on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 07:03:03 AM
The reason clans "stack up" one particular side is usually because they're on TS and don't want to play against eachother.
And if half of the players on a server are from one clan, they will try to join one side. Sad that it has to be defense.
It's not the case always, but it is the case most of the time.

And I also kind of like IL server with it's mapchanges. However, I sometimes find it frustrating that I can't really get settled into a map before it's changed already :D

Cmon! Being on TS isn't an excuse, you can have Assault and Defense channels. And about clan mates, i think it would be wierd to me if i were to be in a clan, and all my teammates were to stack up in one team, making quite an unfair balance for a casual public match.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 08:31:33 AM
Cmon! Being on TS isn't an excuse, you can have Assault and Defense channels. And about clan mates, i think it would be wierd to me if i were to be in a clan, and all my teammates were to stack up in one team, making quite an unfair balance for a casual public match.

That's what I was thinking too. If you're on teamspeak, you probably have teamwork, better communication etc, so it would be cooler to actually play assault together, at least that's what we did in BLANKS :)

On another note Hype, if you've done cal-invite and twl and other comps, you are probably a better player than them so it shouldn't be a problem to kick their ass even on assault. Still I get it gets annoying to be switched.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
That's what I was thinking too. If you're on teamspeak, you probably have teamwork, better communication etc, so it would be cooler to actually play assault together, at least that's what we did in BLANKS :)

On another note Hype, if you've done cal-invite and twl and other comps, you are probably a better player than them so it shouldn't be a problem to kick their ass even on assault. Still I get it gets annoying to be switched.
Normally I would agree, however he just said he plays from Japan now, his ping will be a major disadvantage on those. With lower pings it's way easier to dominate others with prefiring and peaking.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
Cmon! Being on TS isn't an excuse, you can have Assault and Defense channels. And about clan mates, i think it would be wierd to me if i were to be in a clan, and all my teammates were to stack up in one team, making quite an unfair balance for a casual public match.
I wasn't trying to excuse it, I was merely explaining why it happens.
I didn't mean to say what's happening is good.
That's what I was thinking too. If you're on teamspeak, you probably have teamwork, better communication etc, so it would be cooler to actually play assault together, at least that's what we did in BLANKS :)
Ah, the good old BLANK times! :)
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
after a hard day of work, i do enjoy to play with my clan mates. and i also like to talk to them all.
this is why i try to put the clan members on one side. sure, on pipe it could be assault. but a clan is not only there to have a lot of players which do not talk to each other. the fun is when you can make jokes and to comment your team mate how bad he was :)
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: -Vegeta- on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 11:08:30 AM
Correct Merlin. We were always one side in old AA. And always on assault. Or you never got in the clan.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 14:18:19 PM
The reason clans "stack up" one particular side is usually because they're on TS and don't want to play against eachother.
And if half of the players on a server are from one clan, they will try to join one side. Sad that it has to be defense.
It's not the case always, but it is the case most of the time.

And I also kind of like IL server with it's mapchanges. However, I sometimes find it frustrating that I can't really get settled into a map before it's changed already :D
I am aware of the reasons for stacking one side. All I was pointing out was, as you said, having to be defense. I noticed their clan has a few "frag rate whores" one of which reconnected whenever I would kill him. From what I saw they don't enjoy challenge and just stack one side - the easier one - to improve frag rates. I'm not saying all of them do that but I also don't see any of them speaking up saying "no, let's not do that."
Not to toot my own horn but when I was in there most of them didn't ..improve...their fragrate but the less experienced/skilled players on my team were at a huge disadvantage. Mostly I was just aggravated because there are still new/newer players in this community and with servers like this it may turn them away or discourage them.

Normally I would agree, however he just said he plays from Japan now, his ping will be a major disadvantage on those. With lower pings it's way easier to dominate others with prefiring and peaking.

Yes, thank you for observing my ping issue lol. Normally if I were in the U.S. it wouldn't be an issue but nonetheless, it is still hard to crack a pipeline defense that is stacked + TS communication.

On another note I myself do enjoy being on my own team's TS and team but if I notice the teams are stacked and we are continually winning then I will step up and switch teams. There is one exception as Killaman would probably attest to where I was on a team with my buddies sh4dy and dickrobinson and we stacked on CSAR. That was purely because it was the first time we had all played together and were on TS in a very, very long time. Don't want to sound like a hypocrite so I will man up to that one.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 15:36:04 PM
There is one exception as Killaman would probably attest to where I was on a team with my buddies sh4dy and dickrobinson and we stacked on CSAR. That was purely because it was the first time we had all played together and were on TS in a very, very long time. Don't want to sound like a hypocrite so I will man up to that one.


And sf pcr :)
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 15:52:32 PM
And sf pcr :)
It was actually Mout, CSAR, and then PCR. I was thinking about bringing it up when I first read the topic but decided it wasn't worth it. My whole point was that you can still talk to friends on TS and play against them in-game at the same time. No need to ruin the game for the other team.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: dickrobinson on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 16:04:23 PM
was only csar and pcr for me. we've played on the same team a few times, although i'm rarely on TS with them anyway. difference is theres only 2 or 3 of us and we randomly choose a side. not 8 of us sitting in main pump room kicking everyone that refuses to swap teams and reconnecting for fragrates when they die
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 16:23:15 PM
was only csar and pcr for me. we've played on the same team a few times, although i'm rarely on TS with them anyway. difference is theres only 2 or 3 of us and we randomly choose a side. not 8 of us sitting in main pump room kicking everyone that refuses to swap teams and reconnecting for fragrates when they die
I realize it's not the same thing. I originally chose not to bring it up because it wasn't going to help the topic. Contrary to what some may believe, I don't like starting arguments in perfectly good topics. :) I was just correcting him since it was brought up.

I did find it a bit hypocritical to stack teams and then complain about stacked teams though. Sure it wasn't on the same level, but you still intentionally did it.

Back on topic though, yeah I don't like that, and it's the worst on Pipeline from what I've seen. It's just the same people, playing the same side and doing the same things over and over again. How someone can have fun sitting top CP all round is beyond me. I honestly prefer dual assault and random spawn maps for this very reason. There's more gameplay variety when both teams have to actively fight for the same thing.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 17:34:05 PM
I actually meant PCR - not CSAR, my apologies. Don't recall stacking anything else as I try to switch when it is obvious the other team is struggling. Regarding being hypocritical, yes and no. Yes because we did it once but no because it is not a re-occurring trend such as the Invisible Clan's habit.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, February 21, 2015, 18:19:55 PM
funny seeing them having a american server
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: -Vegeta- on Sunday, February 22, 2015, 04:24:53 AM
I went in last night just to see if its true and it is. And I told em as I always do. Hate injustice,stacking,point grabbing camping toe rags. Now I remeber why I got involved in so many fun roe wars.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: frajola on Sunday, February 22, 2015, 19:58:23 PM
hype,

I'm 'Invisible' member and please, sorry if we treat you with no respect any time  :up:

Now we have two server, one in Brazil and other in USA. We trying do the best for the AA community. Sometimes we make mistakes, is part of the game. I can guarantee is that when we change the team sides, is to keep the members of Invisible clan on the same side for TS communication.

And no, we don't play in defense or attack only. Usually we switch the team sides between matches.

All players are welcome to play with us. If you have any problems, you can join in our TS server. Try talking to 'branco' or 'blueskies'. I don't know all the members who speak english, but these two will be able to communicate with you  :D

Let's have fun  :style:
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Branco on Monday, February 23, 2015, 13:05:33 PM
Hi admins, Hi Players...
We are expanding and spreading AA2.5 in brazil. We try have no problem with some players, but during the sets in game it`s impossible due to the condute the some players in AA, unfortunately some players do not know how to respect the next. Now we have two server, one in Brazil and other in USA. We are trying do the best for the AA25 community. We are with a divulgation project to AA25 will soon launch up this.
We play all the time in ts3, and our members always play in the same team. We respect the all members of AA, including the new players, but our server rules must be respected, I hope.

Thank you everybody..
Peace to all!
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, February 23, 2015, 13:24:21 PM
We play all the time in ts3, and our members always play in the same team. We respect the all members of AA, including the new players, but our server rules must be respect,

lmao ur too funny
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Monday, February 23, 2015, 21:43:31 PM
Well, thank you for confirming you stack one side no matter what. And no offense Branco but you reconnect for fragrate so it's difficult to take you seriously.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, February 23, 2015, 23:53:20 PM
Well, thank you for confirming you stack one side no matter what. And no offense Branco but you reconnect for fragrate so it's difficult to take you seriously.

Yes forgot to say that. Got to love those type of players that reconnect after dying couple times lol
Wish they get rid of battle tracker all together
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Branco on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 00:05:14 AM
Thank you Hype and Wicked, Anything else?
Hype if you want play in our server you are welcome, If you don`t want, find other server, play in nexus server, I don`t care what do you think about i clan or about my fragrate. Each player is free to find any server in AA, but, If you will play in i clan server you will respect our rules. Like I said:

`` We are trying do the best for the AA25 community. We are with a divulgation project to AA25 will soon launch up this``.


Good week for you 2..

Peace to all....

..-branco*.*
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Possessed on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 00:42:41 AM
Reconnecting is well know in AA2 and it is higly disapproved by the community, supporting such toxic pratice isnt the best for the community, in case of exessive use, it becomes passive of a punishment, not to mention the system has changed and deaths are stored elsewhere before it goes to Battletracker, so you may not avoid a death on your stats by reconnecting. Spread the word, so ppl dont come here saying that they dont know why they got punished, we have been too cool allowing ppl to play Even when they Try to avoid previous bans, acting in a several way isnt never the first option but sure will be done when needed.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 00:56:56 AM
But poss I lmao when Branco or Lucas comes in a server and they die once or twice and do a quick reconnect. Lol

I can't understand how people really enjoy playing this 11 year old game if all there worried about is frag rate
Come on now it's 11 year old game it's nothing like it use to be. But still fun playing it...
And bronco don't flatter yourself I would never ever play on your servers I'll commit suicide before joining your servers

I Lung  American server is the best out there. .....
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Branco on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 06:38:52 AM
Anything else wicked ? I don`t care if you will play in IL server.. I don`t care what you think about my fragrate, If you want play in our server like yesterday, you are welcome, if you dont want.. go to IL server... I have no idea what do you talking about reconnect... I`m guess that you wants cause a problem... but I`m not here to have problem.. Possessed go hard, pay attention in player doing reconnect and punish, I have 11 years in this game and never had a problem.

Thank you...

Peace To ALL!
 :up:
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 11:39:34 AM
I have no idea what do you talking about reconnect... I`m guess that you wants cause a problem...

I'm not looking to cause a problem just merely stating what I and "Dickrobinson" noticed awhile ago in your server. (And that was you reconnecting each time you died, three times in a row if I remember correctly)

However, this is getting offtrack. Point is A) please don't stack the teams, if you notice one side keeps winning, move people around. B) If people want to play a certain side, let them do so and then swap after the first game or whatever. It's wrong to just kick, mute, or ban people just because you want to force them to play a certain side (assault/defense). If your argument is because its your "server rules" then you should probably re-think your rules unless you just prefer to play against clan mates all day. (If that's the case, may as well password your server)
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Branco on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 13:11:49 PM
Hype, I already said, and I will say again, Everybody is WELCOME in our server, i CLAN ALWAYS play in SAME TEAM. Be assault or defense. We always play AA game in TS. But, our server rules should be respected. If you dont respect, maybe we can invite you an exit. But not is only in our server, It is in ALL server of Americas Army.

This conversation finished here to me. I dont look at it more.
Thank you very much.

PEACE to ALL.
 :up:
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Possessed on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 14:47:19 PM
Days ago he was begging to play on defense in another server (while the owners were all stacked on Def), "visitors should play on def he said".
he doesnt care about reconnecting, if he said ur looking to cause problems, its because he knows something is wrong and he doesnt want it discussed. talking about respect , without truly respecting the community(supporting bad pratices, avoiding discussing and assuming it) and its most valuable members advice, sad haha.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 16:28:36 PM
Just because you pay for a server it doesn't mean you can be unfair and/or unpolite against everyone that doesn't belong to your clan...especially given that you're probably running one of the few South American servers.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 18:47:05 PM


However, this is getting offtrack. Point is A) please don't stack the teams, if you notice one side keeps winning, move people around.

I played AA since 10 years and I havent seen this happen very often. Is this a joke. All I see here are the majority run to hide on the easy side. Mostly def. Some times there are decent players who play ass. And then the point grabbers want to join Ass all of a sudden. I would go as far as to say 90% of players are selfish and only want whats best for them. Unfortunatly these players are still here. I banned most of the names in here for that very reason. There still point grabbing selfish players. Dont know why so many are getting on there high horse for this  clan doing what most of you do anyway. Feacking is a joke.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: frajola on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 19:59:39 PM
Ok, according with this thread we can conclude that is WRONG:

- Clan play on same side with TS;
- Move the side of the players side to prevent ghost;
- Move the side of the others players (not "i" member)  to get team playing together;

No others server does this. Ok, uhum... ok... roger.

One more thing, this thread is to talk about the server or branco?

Thanks

Come on, all players here just want have fun.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: dickrobinson on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 20:39:34 PM
it was to talk about the server and branco tbh
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: frajola on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 21:16:21 PM
You play with a clan. You have a server. You have a TS server for the T-E-A-M.

And... ... ... ... you play on different sides.

Congratulations. Yeahhh!

So, when we play on iL or nexus server on different sides, they call us 'ghosters'. It's ok?

Most of us have just a few minutes or hours per day and can't play together on our server. Funny, don't?

It's over, please. This game need more player, not little shits like this situation.

All of you are invited to play on our server. All.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: hype on Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 23:26:08 PM
I played AA since 10 years and I havent seen this happen very often. Is this a joke. All I see here are the majority run to hide on the easy side. Mostly def. Some times there are decent players who play ass. And then the point grabbers want to join Ass all of a sudden. I would go as far as to say 90% of players are selfish and only want whats best for them. Unfortunatly these players are still here. I banned most of the names in here for that very reason. There still point grabbing selfish players. Dont know why so many are getting on there high horse for this  clan doing what most of you do anyway. Feacking is a joke.


Comparing the game from 10 years ago to today doesn't work. Nowadays we have <150 players on at a given time typically a lot less than that. Stacking teams doesn't help the tiny community that is left, so yes although maybe most don't try to rectify that situation when it comes about I know I try to even it up myself.

You play with a clan. You have a server. You have a TS server for the T-E-A-M.

And... ... ... ... you play on different sides.

Congratulations. Yeahhh!

So, when we play on iL or nexus server on different sides, they call us 'ghosters'. It's ok?

Well I personally don't care which team I play on, I'm here to have fun and talk to people because I enjoy their company, not to just always communicate enemy positions and our strategies in a pub match. It isn't that serious. As far as ghosting, that would never be said while I am playing unless it is painfully obvious. If others happened to think you were ghosting then the fix is simple, switch you to same side. Doesn't have to be all dramatic.
Title: Re: Invisible Clan
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 16:03:14 PM
Are we adding KK clan here take a look at them just now pure stacking like I said . This tripe most are talikng in here is just that tripe. As much as I like Soul he s right there on def with all the decent memebers. and the worst two KK members on ass