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Title: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jonnym on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 14:07:08 PM
I would like to take a back seat on this project, I have other intrests i want to pursue and don't want the distractions of running this project anymore, I would like Spanky or Blueblaster to take over from me. I will still be around to help and will still doing coding work for you when required, i just don't want to be in command anymore. I now need someone to handover the remaining donations money and the server hosting account, The donations moneys is 60 GBP and the server hosting account has a balance of 70 GBP so plenty of money in there for months to come. I can then handover control of the auth server, But I will still be around to help you run it. So who wants to take over the project?
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 14:55:36 PM
This was a PM that Jonny sent out to me and BlueBlaster. Personally, I've lost a lot of interest in AA and don't want to put any more time into it. But, at the same time, I don't want to see it die. I've got a lot of stuff going on with business and life right now, I know Jared, Killa and Blue are also pretty busy as well.

As far as I understand, this would be updating Assist for maps, content or security updates as well as managing payment for the datacenter rack slot.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jonnym on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:05:24 PM
I would ideally like to see someone who wants to move this project forward and actively develop it further, But anyone who wants to just maintain it and keep it running is good. If no one comes forward the project will eventually close down.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Alex on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:06:39 PM
Even if someone wanted to take it over, I don't think anyone here possesses the knowledge to update and fix problems with Assist itself. This is a tricky situation.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jared on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:12:10 PM
yeah my life has increasingly gotten busy and I really don't have the time anymore, im doing some huge projects on my end, shit i haven't even had time to login into twitter for the past 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:12:48 PM
If none comes up i rather maintain it and try to keep it running than letting it die now after all the hard work done by you guys.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:14:06 PM
I think 1 mAAp update and 1 security update could be done and then the project itself could just idle for a very long time without updates.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: soupcakes on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:22:02 PM
once had devs who also lost interest in this game, worked out great.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 15:28:01 PM
once had devs who also lost interest in this game, worked out great.

But we weren't paid nor fired :(
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 16:09:11 PM
I can help with coding and hosting the server.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Tshort on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 16:33:41 PM
Well time to move onto another game..This one is going to die once again.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Koden on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 16:37:27 PM
Well time to move onto another game..This one is going to die once again.

I beg to differ. It's the players that decide upon the game's fate. Today's donations amount will help running the structure for a few months more, then it will just be about the number of players making it worthy to theirselves or not.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jared on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 16:58:37 PM
Well time to move onto another game..This one is going to die once again.

The game wont die again, we just need some help to keep things going.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Possessed on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 17:42:07 PM
all I have to offer is help with honor claims, bans / appeals, questons about the game and how it works and maybe some UScript modding.

I'm online here whenever I can
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 18:09:02 PM
I beg to differ. It's the players that decide upon the game's fate. Today's donations amount will help running the structure for a few months more, then it will just be about the number of players making it worthy to theirselves or not.

Even donations don't have to be a problem. I have access to hosted servers with good connectivity in Europe (where most AA2.5 live servers are), and the master server could be deployed there at no cost.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 18:38:17 PM
Even donations don't have to be a problem. I have access to hosted servers with good connectivity in Europe (where most AA2.5 live servers are), and the master server could be deployed there at no cost.

Maybe Jonny could send you his server box then? Cost is a significant hurdle. Updates can be done later on with some instructions from Jonny. In fact, I don't mind doing the labor for 1 mAAp update for Assist. Jonny, is it possible you could write up a tutorial on how to go about updating files?
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 18:58:47 PM
Maybe Jonny could send you his server box then? Cost is a significant hurdle. Updates can be done later on with some instructions from Jonny. In fact, I don't mind doing the labor for 1 mAAp update for Assist. Jonny, is it possible you could write up a tutorial on how to go about updating files?

Box? I thought it's enough to install the auth server software on another machine, i didn't know it requires dedicated box. The number of total AA2.5 servers and players is quite low after all, therefore workload on the auth server should not be especially high.

Jonny, can you give some idea of cpu/memory/network usage of the auth server?
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 19:17:00 PM
There's a thread here where he bought himself a 4-CPU 2UU rackmount server and ran it out of his shed then moved it to a datacenter (centre :D) for Assist. The game servers aren't required but the master server and web server is.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BlueBlaster on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 19:30:58 PM
If pit can be in charge of the server box that would be pretty good. The game could go on for a long time. I don't tell people much about what's going on with me but I'm about to go to university of illinois for computer engineering in august. I've gotta relocate and bla bla bla, so I'll be busy for 2 years or so with that.

But I can still run stuff if it needs to be run. If pit can do the server box that would be awesome for everyone. Spanky, me, jared, and killa (and sergio) can run the other operations together. Skrewy can still continue to be the mustard and mayo.


Since this is quite a significant event, I think it would be good to see what we can each contribute to the project to keep it going.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 20:16:08 PM
There's a thread here where he bought himself a 4-CPU 2UU rackmount server and ran it out of his shed then moved it to a datacenter (centre :D) for Assist. The game servers aren't required but the master server and web server is.

Hmm, maybe I'm missing something, but I'd expect such machine to mosly idle when running the auth/master server + website, which handles the amount of clients we have in AA2.5 community (i.e. low).

I think Jonny just bought himself a rig to play BF3, and the whole assist thing is just a smoke screen ;-DDD.

But seriously, it would be much easier and practical to move just the software, not the whole box.

In the meantime I will talk to the guy who owns all the stuff at my place (Chicken Farm), to check what are the possibilities.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, April 19, 2012, 20:21:35 PM
Since this is quite a significant event, I think it would be good to see what we can each contribute to the project to keep it going.

Personally I'm mostly interested in coding, and that's the area where I can contribute most.

Hosting the server at CFC (Chicken Farm) is another possibility, but that's really up to the CFC owner (I don't own it, I just help to keep it running).
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jonnym on Friday, April 20, 2012, 03:03:59 AM
I would be happy for pit to take over the auth server.
Currently it is hosted on a VPS at a hosting company, Usage is around 1% so it is a very small load. The VPS hosting account has 80GBP credit on it, which cannot be refunded, so there is no point moving it yet, Best I sign the hosting account over to you, then it will have enough credit on it to run for 3 or 4 months, when the credit runs out then you can move it to another server. I will also sign over the aa25.org domain name which controls where the auth server is pointed to.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Friday, April 20, 2012, 03:28:47 AM
Currently it is hosted on a VPS at a hosting company, Usage is around 1% so it is a very small load. [...]

So it's not running on this one http://aao25.com/2-5-assist/new-beast-server/msg10139/#msg10139 (http://aao25.com/2-5-assist/new-beast-server/msg10139/#msg10139) anymore? That would clarify my doubts.

[...] it will have enough credit on it to run for 3 or 4 months, when the credit runs out then you can move it to another server [...]

Great, during that time I can familiarize with it, and also setup a second instance in advance.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jonnym on Friday, April 20, 2012, 05:11:22 AM
No its not running on that beast anymore, Its just on a rented VPS. PM me your real name and e-mail address and I will hand over the account. (its at eukhost.com) after a couple of days, just to see if anyone else has anything useful to say in this thread.

It will be great to see someone take this project forward. I think its the right thing to do, i don't have the time or energy to move things forward anymore, I think its only fair I should hand over to someone who will.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Ganja on Friday, April 20, 2012, 08:33:11 AM
Sad news, but awlays thought it would happen. Most of you guys don't play the game (anymore) and don't get paid or whatever so it seems logical u get bored or u have other priorities.

I hope this comunity will not die like 2.8.5.

First of all thank you for trying to offer the 'job' to someone else, so the game doesn't die (not like 2.8.5)
And then thank you for all the free work you've done here, it just saved a game ...

Now I could have taken the job, cauz I want AA to stay alive, i'm pretty active blablabla but like Killa said I have no idea about coding and how all this system works :D So forget it for me.

Good luck with all your real lifes budies, nice to have met y'all

(strange how it sounds as a goodbye)
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Yahoo on Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
Ganja it's not they will leave, they will be around helping with coding and all that stuff, they just don't have the time needed to keep things going, it's a wise decision by Jonny, it must be hard give your "baby" to another person  8)

Once again a big thanks to all admins for the excellent effort to keep the game alive, and good luck to the one who will keep the "baby" fed  :P
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Gekkou on Friday, April 20, 2012, 12:05:53 PM
If none comes up i rather maintain it and try to keep it running than letting it die now after all the hard work done by you guys.
Anyone if my advise is worth something, hand it over to Big Sergio I'm pretty sure he is capable of doing a good job and is a reliable person.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Friday, April 20, 2012, 13:33:43 PM
My vote would go to pits, he's pretty knowledgeable and has shown skill in the past with this stuff. Sergio is great for anti-cheat and moderation.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Friday, April 20, 2012, 14:22:04 PM
I just don't wanna see it going down now, and so will do whatever i can to keep helping. And btw, thanks for the support Gekkou.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Friday, April 20, 2012, 16:19:53 PM
Relax guys, this is not presidential campaign :-D, there is not much sense in choosing between me, Sergio or whoever. I'll do my stuff (coding + running auth server if needed), Sergio will do his (hunting for bad guys), others will do theirs, and everything will be just fine.

And I completely agree with Sergio - going down is not an option.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Maxbulldog_53 on Friday, April 20, 2012, 16:48:26 PM
Not really sure what I can do to help this situation but I'd be willing to do whatever I can to keep 25assist running.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Friday, April 20, 2012, 17:03:17 PM
going down is not an option.

Too many of my dates are ended when she says that.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Maxbulldog_53 on Friday, April 20, 2012, 17:13:50 PM
Too many of my dates are ended when she says that.


heartbreaker...
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BlueBlaster on Friday, April 20, 2012, 17:22:08 PM
Too many of my dates are ended when she says that.

That's why I've started using that line. Booyakasha.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: august on Friday, April 20, 2012, 19:35:06 PM
I would like to begin by thanking Jonny and the others for running AA2.5 and bringing back the excitement.
I also agree that we have to do all we can to get 2.5 going and growing.

Personally the only way I can help AA2.5 is with the site/forums. I am ready to fully admin the site/forums (add features, improve the current site and so forth).  I have much experience with SMF, the modules, administration and I am all about keeping the AA2.5 community alive and growing.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BlueBlaster on Friday, April 20, 2012, 21:04:38 PM
So far the first matter of business is to for Pit to get familiar with the auth server and such. Once that has settled down we can start on the other matters of business.

I believe the other matters of business include pushing the Assist name out more and centralizing the website and features.

August is still adamant about advertising Assist and administrating the community. When the dust settles and we get to focusing on the site I'll have August take some more charge with that stuff since he's been helping us out.


Now it's everyone else's turn to post suggestions.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Saturday, April 21, 2012, 13:53:48 PM
Jonny has just given me access to lots of stuff, so I consider the hand-over as complete. Thank you all for the trust - I can assure you I will rule the assist with wisdom and responsibility. I won't fail you.

My first decisions are:

1. I change my nickname to "His_Majesty_PIT-23". Calling me any other way (e.g. simply "pit") will result in a BAN.
2. I change my honor to 1000. Everyone else is limited to 110 (ok, to 120, I'm generous).
3. I assign myself a special in-game icon. I still haven't decided, but I will choose from one of those: http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA (http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA)
4. Killing me in game (or even flashing) will result in a BAN.
5. Failing to die when I shoot at someone will result in a BAN.
6. It will be _legal_ for me (and only me) to use god mode hack, when I feel like it. (Note that rules 4 and 5 are still necessary, cause I suck even in god mode...)
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Alex on Saturday, April 21, 2012, 14:02:48 PM
Jonny has just given me access to lot's of stuff, so I consider the hand-over as complete. Thank you all for the trust - I can assure you I will rule the assist with wisdom and responsibility. I won't fail you.

My first decisions are:

1. I change my nickname to "His_Majesty_PIT-23". Calling me any other way (e.g. simply "pit") will result in a BAN.
2. I change my honor to 1000. Everyone else is limited to 110 (ok, to 120, I'm generous).
3. I assign myself a special in-game icon. I still haven't decided, but I will choose from one of those: http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA (http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA)
4. Killing me in game (or even flashing) will result in a BAN.
5. Failing to die when I shoot at someone will result in a BAN.
6. It will be _legal_ for me (and only me) to use god mode hack, when I fell like it. (Note that rules 4 and 5 are still necessary, cause I suck even in god mode...)
;D
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: guily6669 on Saturday, April 21, 2012, 16:19:39 PM
I've lost a lot of interest in AA and don't want to put any more time into it. But, at the same time, I don't want to see it die.
Yeah, me too :(. I guess it's because AA2 is the game I have played more since ever, and the only true online game I played for too many years, and back then it was every days playing AA for long hours ;).

Now I kinda play AA and get tired soon, haven't played it for a while now.

Taking that out, I just wanna Thank All the good folks who helped AA25assist, and I really didn't wanted to see it die so soon again :'(. Hope someone can continue this good work (Thank You Pit-23).

ps: Thank you Johny! for making me remember the good old times! (I hope you have a good life there mate)

BTW: I just finally bought BF3 today hehe, for 32€, and could have bought it for 16€ 8). (Taking AA2 out, BF2 was also the only game I played online for long, but not as much as AA of course). Damn I have thousands and thousands of hours On AA since 2003, so much good conversations I had on the AA2 chat with the company of Microsoft SAM (Now I have ANNA which pisses me off. SCREW U M$);D.
Keep Cool
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Go_Cat75 on Sunday, April 22, 2012, 05:20:57 AM
Jonny has just given me access to lots of stuff, so I consider the hand-over as complete. Thank you all for the trust - I can assure you I will rule the assist with wisdom and responsibility. I won't fail you.

My first decisions are:

1. I change my nickname to "His_Majesty_PIT-23". Calling me any other way (e.g. simply "pit") will result in a BAN.
2. I change my honor to 1000. Everyone else is limited to 110 (ok, to 120, I'm generous).
3. I assign myself a special in-game icon. I still haven't decided, but I will choose from one of those: http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA (http://www.google.pl/search?q=crown+icon&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&hs=tC0&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZvKST4rIIen64QS-rcDQDw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785&sei=bPKST5-3PMTOsgauoP3EBA)
4. Killing me in game (or even flashing) will result in a BAN.
5. Failing to die when I shoot at someone will result in a BAN.
6. It will be _legal_ for me (and only me) to use god mode hack, when I feel like it. (Note that rules 4 and 5 are still necessary, cause I suck even in god mode...)

1. :(
2. My 110 can now be 120 :)
3. Recruit?
4. :( & :(
5. :(
6. Guess you now have a chance.

Thanks for what you have done with Assist guys and Pit for taking over. ( :( - Dam another ban)

We have a strong community in Australia still so if anything is needed you just need to hail us.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jared on Saturday, April 28, 2012, 17:39:38 PM
I'm not going to be on for a while, about 2 days ago, I just a job offer from a start up company in NYC. I have been in talks with them about taking the job, and while that was going I got another job offer from a different company in NYC.

Right now I need to spend most of my time on my work. I will no longer be playing, but if you need help with anything just let me know
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Saturday, April 28, 2012, 18:06:35 PM
I'm not going to be on for a while, about 2 days ago, I just a job offer from a start up company in NYC. I have been in talks with them about taking the job, and while that was going I got another job offer from a different company in NYC.

Right now I need to spend most of my time on my work. I will no longer be playing, but if you need help with anything just let me know

Good luck with the job!
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: august on Wednesday, May 02, 2012, 03:56:00 AM
So, where are we at with the handover?
Pit, have you taken full control of the server?

We need to move to the next steps of the handover, continue to develop and grow the community with both new and old players.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: pit-23 on Wednesday, May 02, 2012, 04:58:57 AM
So, where are we at with the handover?
Pit, have you taken full control of the server?

I think so.

We need to move to the next steps of the handover, continue to develop and grow the community with both new and old players.

What do you mean in particular?
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: august on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 23:20:04 PM
Are we ready to move on to the site administration and development into something a bit more professional/organized?

As I indicated in this thread, I am ready and willing to help with managing, developing and adding features to the site
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Alex on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 23:26:55 PM
Are we ready to move on to the site administration and development into something a bit more professional/organized?

As I indicated in this thread, I am ready and willing to help with managing, developing and adding features to the site
Not quite sure what you mean by making it "more professional."
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: august on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 23:44:00 PM
a few examples:

-professional is probably not the right word. what I mean is something of a front page that is attractive to new/old players who find out about AA2.5 and makes them to want to play.
-forums better organized, probably cleaned up
-adding more forum features. SMF has great modules to use

and so forth
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 23:51:22 PM
a few examples:

-professional is probably not the right word. what I mean is something of a front page that is attractive to new/old players who find out about AA2.5 and makes them to want to play.
-forums better organized, probably cleaned up
-adding more forum features. SMF has great modules to use

and so forth

The hand over of command is for Assist itself, not the website. Jared and me made this site and feel that it's "done" and running fine with all the features we could think of.

How would you organize the forums differently? What forum features do you suggest?
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Gekkou on Friday, May 11, 2012, 07:30:35 AM
PLZ fix the empty slot kick
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Jonnym on Friday, May 11, 2012, 11:36:52 AM
How can he fix slot closed kick? It is not a bug, it is a normal function of the game, it means...
Player has closed aa
Player has closed assist
Player has joined another server
Players pc has crashed
Players internet connection has dropped out
Players ip address has changed
Player has been banned by the assist team while playing
Player has hit the close slot button on assist
Player has hit the logout button on assist
Players firewall has blocked assist or aa
Someone has rebooted the master auth server

Or in other words its your fucking fault so stop asking us to "fix" it!
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Spanky on Friday, May 11, 2012, 13:02:57 PM
its your fucking fault

Jonny has now ascended into the final stage of devhood.
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: GoD-ICA- on Friday, May 11, 2012, 19:12:48 PM
/sign my self up! $3.50 bid on Jonnys Position!!

:D
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Alex on Friday, May 11, 2012, 22:25:44 PM
/sign my self up! $3.50 bid on Jonnys Position!!

:D
lol, did you not read the topic? Pit-23 has already assumed control of everything. :P
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: GoD-ICA- on Friday, May 11, 2012, 22:58:47 PM
lol, did you not read the topic? Pit-23 has already assumed control of everything. :P
I know, felt like being a smart ass tho :D
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Saturday, May 12, 2012, 06:29:55 AM
yes, you do that a lot ;)
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: GoD-ICA- on Saturday, May 12, 2012, 06:41:56 AM
yes, you do that a lot ;)

How rude!! I thought I was polite!!
Title: Re: Hand over of Command
Post by: Gekkou on Saturday, May 12, 2012, 13:38:41 PM
OK I'M SORRY I ASKED.