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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: august on Saturday, February 07, 2015, 18:31:17 PM
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So how is the overall game population? How about the clan community?
Are there enough new/returning players to sustain clans?
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if you want to play with a clan, then certainly
don't expect the game to be how you remember it in its glory days but don't be negative
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I know that, but I was actually referring to overall numbers.
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I guess ELiZ can fetch the numbers if he has time.
We do get new players (or new accounts rather), however, a lot of them either don't play at all or play just a few rounds, it seems.
We also have quite a lot of accounts playing every month, but some of them again don't seem to play too much.
The number of players playing at peak times (and this is just an observation, not statistics) seems to be quite steadily on around 120-150 the last couple of months.
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Here is the amount of distinct accounts logged in each day in the last 30 days:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F209q4k4.png&hash=16d776863d564006b0c8cf286acd8eb2)
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Here is the same data for the last 180 days:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F29nff5j.png&hash=ce9913745265931913ee8c66fc0443b2)
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Looks like it's improving, i noticed some new people on the shoutbox aswell.
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Looks to me as if AA25 is beginning to get more traction. Eliz, can you get the same type of data per hour/time of day?
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Looks to me as if AA25 is beginning to get more traction. Eliz, can you get the same type of data per hour/time of day?
Not quite the same data, I can provide the number of played rounds the last 10 days, distributed on the hour.
The time is GMT-1
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F9h4eg2.png&hash=28f24573063efdc70bf08a945710de19)
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i think we need to bring back tracked FC servers. lot of people left and never came back due to normal guns only .
yes i know all the reasons it was made by people that DONT PLAY .
well any way population is at stand still so is recruiting
less you count new acc that were banned in 2013 but yet banned again in 2015 lol
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FC?
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i think we need to bring back tracked FC servers. lot of people left and never came back due to normal guns only .
yes i know all the reasons it was made by people that DONT PLAY .
well any way population is at stand still so is recruiting
less you count new acc that were banned in 2013 but yet banned again in 2015 lol
You can use any SF mod you like.
Nothing in 25Assist that stops you.
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ALL SERVERS MUST BE NORMAL TO BE TRACKED, YES YOU CAN FC EVERY ROUND ,
BUT WHY NOT HAVE SERVERS FULLY MODDED AND TRACKED ?
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As ELiZ said, you can have servers fully modded to have SF or whatever other gun every round. It just won't be tracked. But there's nothing stopping you from doing it. Most people claim not to care about their tracker anyway.
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thats the thing , ITS NOT TRACKED ,,,,,,
people will not log in your server and play all day if not tracked..
some people dont give a shit , but most do .
whats the big deal ? what do we lose from this ?
i see nothing but GAIN.
i know players that play less and or dont play because servers not modded and tracked .
i just want to know WHY we cant have TRACKED AND MODDED
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Because we like to keep the game as it is.
The US army actually didn't allow using mods either. In fact it violates the EULA (End User License Agreement) set by the US army and since we don't own the game, we can't change it.
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you guys are putting up polls and changing the game all the time.. " to only the needs and wants of your choice" ?
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Yes. Hence we don't need any more clear violations of the license.
"The more the merrier" doesn't really apply to breaking the rules.
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teddy this game is in Public Domain no metter what is writen in EULA.
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It still belongs to the US Army whether you like it or not.
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US Army is "Publisher" of the game, but they have no copyrights to this game. They should give us game sources, although Spanky said that they refused. It would be great if he show us official response from US Army.
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I've asked again one of devs:
http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9084&p=161353#p161353 (http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9084&p=161353#p161353)
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That "dfxrvfpu" is you?
If I understand this correctly, you sent the quote message as a PM to someone?
If that all is true, then you should know you will never get any results insulting people.
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Hi, unfortunatly I'm not US Citizen so I can not write normal petition.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9084&p=161352
You have writen that game is protected with Agrement with Epic Games.
There are two posibilities you are layer or moron.
Your work is in Public Domain and should be published on reqest. Even if there is some agrement with epic games it protets engine source, wchich you probably didnt get. If rely there is something in agrement it is inlegal due to US COpryght law bla balba somehing.
So please don't be moron share the game.
I genuinely think they will have a good laugh.
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Koden there are two ways. US citizen can write official petition, or if one of you know soeone with access to the sources can ask him to perform a leak.
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Despite your efforts Petrol, I'd just drop it, there's no way you'll get past their reply:
the AA source won't be released as open source because of our agreements with Epic Games. They own the intellectual property to their game engine and we just license it.
AA2 is created using the base Unreal Engine 2 but the source code is intermingled and there is no viable way to separate the two.
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Spanky you know that it is bulshit. I know it is quite lot of work but could you write official request tho the responsible people?
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Bullshit? We would be asking them to violate a license agreement for which they could be sued if they agreed. Yes, it's old but does that mean it's void? No. They cannot give out something to which they do not own (Unreal Engine).
I have asked in the best possible way and though there were promising prospects, it didn't go anywhere. I would put it to rest, it's not going to happen.
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Yea spanky bullshit. If license say what Law is saying it is inlegal. I,m quite sure that they don't have unreal sources. They probably just have API which I s protected by life cense but not like thy saying.
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You do get the source, we have a copy of what they had, just an older version. You can edit anything you want and recompile it, that is the engine in it's entirety. There's many spots where the AA devs added code into the core engine files to modify things or extend functions. They built upon what they licensed from Unreal. Just because they added to it doesn't mean it's theirs to do what they want with. They cannot legally give away something that is copyrighted by someone else.
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Every fucking life of code created by aao developpers is in public domain.
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Yea spanky bullshit. If license say what Law is saying it is inlegal. I,m quite sure that they don't have unreal sources. They probably just have API which I s protected by life cense but not like thy saying.
When the engine was licensed, they got access to Core, Engine and the rest of the native+uscript for the same. AA devs then started editing some and adding some more. So all the "AA code" is intermingled with the licensed material. I assume the license allowed the devs to modify the source to fit their needs, but I don't think they are allowed to publish Epic's code, witch accounts for, what.. 70%-80% of the game.
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So just ask epic if they let us get code from as devs and we will get from them their last ace.
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So just ask epic if they let us get code from as devs and we will get from them their last ace.
Go ahead, ask, but I seriously doubt you'll get someone's hard work for free.
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ok tweeted:
https://twitter.com/Testandroida1/status/565629333075918849
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I think that'll do more to stir up drama and potentially cause problems than it will to benefit the life of AA. That's just my opinion though.
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As I said. Two ways: strong petition of us citizen orcleak.
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I think that'll do more to stir up drama and potentially cause problems than it will to benefit the life of AA. That's just my opinion though.
I agree. When I said he could ask I imagined he'd send an email.
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l'd said that I am not us citizen and that the best way is to write official paper petition. Leak is good idea to.
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I think that'll do more to stir up drama and potentially cause problems than it will to benefit the life of AA. That's just my opinion though.
yes, also my thought.
maybe there would be a way to get a license from them ... for money. but i think this game is perfect like it is. and there are already a lot of others like pg you can play it you dont like this game here.
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I don't know to much about us legal system. What I know is that every work prepared by us goverment or by contract with us government is in public domain.
In Poland aces to information on like that is quite simple becausenwe have to make a petition to access to the public infornation and they have two weeks to give it to us.
It would be nice if some of you will write offical paper petition to them. Even if it not help we would have response with statment of responsible person not a moron developer.
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I don't know to much about us legal system. What I know is that every work prepared by us goverment or by contract with us government is in public domain.
How do you know that exactly? You just said you don't know the US legal system.
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Teddy read it until you will understood it.
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Teddy read it until you will understood it.
What I understand is that you assume that laws are the same everywhere. I'll assure you, they're not.
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Read again.
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Read again.
You're saying that's the only thing you "know". And I asked how you know that. By answering that with "just read what I wrote" you're basically saying you're assuming it.
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Dude you have writen: "You just said you don't know the US legal system" when I said: "I don't know to much about us legal system." Can you see diference?
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf (http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf)
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Right. There is a slight difference. And you're right, the document you provided says that "Works by the U.S. government are not eligible for U.S. copyright protection". And it still doesn't mean the Epic Games has any obligation to let the US Army release Epic Games' code.
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Mart you are right. Here is my interpreation, because in Poland if some point agrement says something diferent than law, it can be simply ignored as inlegal. Whole work of us army developers is in publc doman and if Epic Games gave them their sources to modyfy they moved to poblic domain because it is new entity caled in Poland "releated work".
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Mart you are right. Here is my interpreation, because in Poland if some point agrement says something diferent than law, it can be simply ignored as inlegal. Whole work of us army developers is in publc doman and if Epic Games gave them their sources to modyfy they moved to poblic domain because it is new entity caled in Poland "releated work".
Eliz already pointed out that the amount of code belonging to Epic in the game is at least up to 70/80 %, now that code is likely to be very close to the one used in games that are still being sold.
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How do he know?
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How do he know?
By reading much of it, and making an educated guess
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Much of what? Do you have acces to game sources?
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All of this talk of a new game is doing no good for Assist. Instead, think of how to get new players and AA veterans back to AA Assist
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All of this talk of a new game is doing no good for Assist. Instead, think of how to get new players and AA veterans back to AA Assist
AI would get me playing ALOT more...
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Much of what? Do you have acces to game sources?
Some. there is plenty of decompilations out there for the uscript's.
But most of those is incomplete, and even if they were complete, the native part of the equation is missing.
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AI would get me playing ALOT more...
I would like to see that as well.
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Thats what i was thinking. So you dont know that there is "amount of code belonging to Epic in the game is at least up to 70/80 %" Am i right?
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Thats what i was thinking. So you dont know that there is "amount of code belonging to Epic in the game is at least up to 70/80 %" Am i right?
That is not what I wrote.
Thats what i was thinking. So you dont know that there is "amount of code belonging to Epic in the game is at least up to 70/80 %" Am i right?
Have you ever looked into any unreal games Engine.
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Dosn't have to.
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Dosn't have to.
So you admit to talk from a position of ignorance?
If you had read any of them you would see that I'm right.
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Hmm wonder if you can tell us which two I am refering to????
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Hmm wonder if you can tell us which two I am refering to????
You are making No-Sense at all.
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Show us which posts I said you misquoted . That you said you are correct ??
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Show us which posts I said you misquoted . That you said you are correct ??
You are posting in the wrong thread.
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There is same brothel everywhere.
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Yes I did confusing that eh? :)