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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: ELiZ on Tuesday, January 08, 2013, 00:56:27 AM
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Cast your vote.
Get your friends to come and vote.
Please free to post your opinion, it’s possible to change your vote after its cast.
Result will be made public in 7 days.
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Whatever the value will be, I can say I'm happy with it.
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I have a friend of mine who tried AA for the first time... first thing he said was crying over flashes ^^
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Was there only a time difference between 2.5 and 2.8.5? I mean they were stronger also in 2.5 right?
And can't u put a poll on assist itself? like u said "there will be update soon" "happy newyear" so everybody can vote? just an idea, cauz anyway I appreciate the effort you guys put in this fking game! :)
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Maybe this poll could be announced on Assist with a link so everyone who plays the game (and doesn't visit the forums much) can at least know there's a poll even if they don't care to come and vote.
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Actually, i adapted to the new (old) flashbangs, but i will base my vote on the fact how long real flashbangs have an effect. Sadly, i don't know the effect (blinding effect) lasts in real life. Another thing is that 2.8.5 flashbangs were pretty much useless in open field combats, that's what i don't want to be changed. So will the change only affect the time duration or also the efficiency of flashbangs?
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Was there only a time difference between 2.5 and 2.8.5? I mean they were stronger also in 2.5 right?
I believe the only difference is duration.
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Actually, i adapted to the new (old) flashbangs, but i will base my vote on the fact how long real flashbangs have an effect. Sadly, i don't know the effect (blinding effect) lasts in real life. Another thing is that 2.8.5 flashbangs were pretty much useless in open field combats, that's what i don't want to be changed. So will the change only affect the time duration or also the efficiency of flashbangs?
Let's just say that you don't want to experience the effects of a flashbang in real life. It would really wreck your day. :P
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I believe the only difference is duration.
They hah no effect outside on 2.8.5. So I like their effect now, just 15 seconds is more than enough for me
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And can't u put a poll on assist itself? like u said "there will be update soon" "happy newyear" so everybody can vote? just an idea
Good idea, I'll do that later today and let it stay up for 48 Hours
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Shorten time! yay! 2.8.5 was a great version!
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All i know is that current flashbangs wreck my headphones and give me a headache for like 10 min...
Either shorten their duration pls or just darken the screen but change the frequency of that awfull sound.
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flash time varied on your position , they weren't always 12 sec on 2.8.5 (wtf 12 sec??)
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It varies on all versions, at least one factor is distance from the flash.
We are voting on the maximum duration.
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I would be happy with any of them as long as something was done about what I am going to call here a couple of bugs with them. One is a few different times I have been hit with a flash near the end of a round which in itself isn't much, but when the black screen and the noise lasts until the start of the next round, that's a bit overkill. One day I sat through weapon choice because I thought game was still going on until I come out of the black screen and everyone has picked for next set of seven but me and getting told, "F2 pick F2 ." LOL I am like what is going on? And the other thing is not even being in the room when a flash goes off and getting collateral damage bad enough that over two and a half minutes pass in the round since the nade was popped and the ringing is just starting to go away.
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we will only change the Duration effect, but the flash still depends of the distance etc etc.
I vote for 12sec :) flash bangs are to be used inside rooms and for a quickly action, isn't meant for you to throw a flash from a long distance then run to the target, you must be sure you need to use a flash and be sure when to do. flashs aren't a lottery;
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Yes I agree, you made me change my mind :) As long as the effect doesn't change it's ok for me
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All i know is that current flashbangs wreck my headphones and give me a headache for like 10 min...
Either shorten their duration pls or just darken the screen but change the frequency of that awfull sound.
Get good headphones and don't blast your ears.
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I dont care, i have a flashack... right pit? :cool:
But serious: i think that the 285 settings are nice, but now im allready used to that long flash time from 25... im just lighting a sig or get a drink in the time im flashed :)
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LOL BOOLIE, FLASH HACK, LOL HMM
WANNA KNOW WHAT MY FLASH HACK IS????????
CALLED SUICIDE FOR ALL UR NOOBS NEED FLASHES, LMAO
would be nice gettn rid of the flashes all together lol
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LOL BOOLIE, FLASH HACK, LOL HMM
WANNA KNOW WHAT MY FLASH HACK IS????????
CALLED SUICIDE FOR ALL UR NOOBS NEED FLASHES, LMAO
would be nice gettn rid of the flashes all together lol
sorry the army put real life weapons, like flashbangs, into this army recruitment game. you're right, it makes no sense...
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LOL BOOLIE, FLASH HACK, LOL HMM
WANNA KNOW WHAT MY FLASH HACK IS????????
CALLED SUICIDE FOR ALL UR NOOBS NEED FLASHES, LMAO
would be nice gettn rid of the flashes all together lol
In case you do also get rid of the caps lock key.
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Wickid, you must be relly unhappy in your real life, when you take the game things so personally and seriously. Grow up.
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15 seconds IMO it's the fair thing to do.
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put this thread to front page in news...i couldnt find it here
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put this thread to front page in news...i couldnt find it here
already done
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Wickid, you must be relly unhappy in your real life, when you take the game things so personally and seriously. Grow up.
Blow me :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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12 seconds will be fine
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12 seconds will be fine
x2
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to be honest, i think the effect is too strong looking toward 285, but less time than 20s with same accuracy would be good for every1, for me 15-12 suit me
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12sec !!! the flash time from 2.8.5 was the best !!! yet i got flashed so long on urban :/ that isn´t real rly ..
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12sec!!
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Actually there is no question for this topic.
How can you like being flashed for 20sec, even more when people group up and flash a random spot 3 or 4 times.
You can use your flashed time for going to toilet lol
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I think all you guys are mad when tactical people like myself drop their weapon at the beginning of the round and rush your sorry ass with a flashbang.
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how about showing the current result from the poll?
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Nooo please don't show em I voted for 20 seconds cauz without flash im nothing ;(
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You can use your flashed time for going to toilet lol
:D :D :up:
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I use my tunnel flashed time to bring peace between Israel and Palestine - but I always fail :'(
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So I think 12 sec is enough
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What is a realistic standard?
I like the game because of realism.
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What is a realistic standard?
I like the game because of realism.
I would guess that AA v1.0 would have the most realistic value. After that, the arcade-style gameplay is demanded more and more by users. I have AA v1.0 but am too lazy to check because I don't think people would care. I think most everyone wants the 12 seconds 2.8.5 style.
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I Think AA is about realism compare to other FPS like games... 20 seconds can feel long but actually nearer to reality than 12 seconds. for fast unreal pace game go to Counter Strike! flashes there last 5 seconds you'll be happy and let AA still be as realistic as possible. thanks
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15 seconds sounds fine.
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12 seconds
but much worse then the flash time is the ringing duration time, after being flashed for 20 seconds you keep ringing for 30 more.
not being able to hear for the period of time you just sit there or rush in not hearing your opponent.
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not being able to hear for the period of time you just sit there or rush in not hearing your opponent.
I've had a firecracker go off mere inches away from my ear. I can tell you with utter certainty that 30 seconds is nothing. Compare a firecracker to a military device that's several times larger... I'd be surprised if you weren't deafened or heard ringing for 10 minutes or more.
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I've had a firecracker go off mere inches away from my ear. I can tell you with utter certainty that 30 seconds is nothing. Compare a firecracker to a military device that's several times larger... I'd be surprised if you weren't deafened or heard ringing for 10 minutes or more.
yes but this is a video game, if im deaf for 10 minutes what the point of playing the game.
if you want 2.8.5 flashes like the poll states the ringing ended shortly after being unblind
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At the moment we are just modifying the blackout of the screen.
We might take the sound aspect in concideration.
I've modified the Poll question to be clear about the issue.
If this changes your mind, please free to change your vote.
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I vote 12 seconds
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12 seconds is good
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150 votes so far.
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Nice ammount of players voting, but still not much compared to number of players playing. It means we have the vote of players playing often (which is most important) and maybe some people just don't care and will accept the decision
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2.8.5. flashes didnt make anyone happy. they didnt last so nobody wasn't even using them anymore except for some darker maps. Flashes are really nasty things in real life. They are there to mess you opponed up so you have the time to reach em. That's why I think they should stay like they are now. 2.5 Flashes rock!. It would be even more realistic if they even lasted longer then 30 seconds but then the gameplay gets messed up too much.
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I vote to for 12 sec its long enuf
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2.8.5. flashes didnt make anyone happy. they didnt last so nobody wasn't even using them anymore except for some darker maps. Flashes are really nasty things in real life. They are there to mess you opponed up so you have the time to reach em. That's why I think they should stay like they are now. 2.5 Flashes rock!. It would be even more realistic if they even lasted longer then 30 seconds but then the gameplay gets messed up too much.
+1 - Shortning the flash time basically made them useless and in 2.8.x using them outside had little or no affect at all. If you shorten them you may as well remove them from the game entirely. I vote to keep them as they are.
Unless you hit someone correctly which does take skill then the time your flashed is less and sometimes not flashed at all or just darkened. So there not always 20/30 seconds only if done correctly.
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I believe the only difference is duration.
2.8.5 They basically didnt work at all outside and inside it was near impossible to flash anyone around a corner in or a door to then go in and kill them. This wasnt just duration but strength or size of the hit zone I guess.
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2.8.5 They basically didnt work at all outside and inside it was near impossible to flash anyone around a corner in or a door to then go in and kill them. This wasnt just duration but strength or size of the hit zone I guess.
That doesn't necessarily rule out buggy gameplay. I remember frequent bugs resulting in flashes and grenades having no effect at all. Either way, I don't actually have the values, but I'm sure ELiZ or Posessed knows what they are.
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That doesn't necessarily rule out buggy gameplay. I remember frequent bugs resulting in flashes and grenades having no effect at all. Either way, I don't actually have the values, but I'm sure ELiZ or Posessed knows what they are.
Correct the bugs really started when they started changing the time ect in 2.8.x. Do we really want to see that again, so leave them the same.
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lowering the DurationEffect lowers the annoying sound after a flash;
nothing else than the durationeffect changes between 2.5 -2.8.5
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I dont know what game you guys are playing but currently flashes are over powered regardless if you turn away or barely are within view when they pop.
anyone who wants 20 second flashes and 20 additional seconds of being deaf afterwards needs to learn how to shoot bullets and not flash kill your opponents every time.
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anyone who wants 20 second flashes and 20 additional seconds of being deaf afterwards needs to learn how to shoot bullets and not flash kill your opponents every time.
What kind of a pussy uses a gun to kill people? What, you can't kill with your bare hands? Jeez. Some people are skill-less.
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What kind of a pussy uses a gun to kill people? What, you can't kill with your bare hands? Jeez. Some people are skill-less.
lmao i needed that laugh
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12 sec is long enough :d :up:
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yap, I prefer the 12 seconds from 2.8.5 too.
And a weakening would be cool either, when you get hit by it outside.
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What kind of a pussy uses a gun to kill people? What, you can't kill with your bare hands? Jeez. Some people are skill-less.
Agree with you Spanky looks like the modern era gamer have no skill.
Flashing someone certainly points that out and anyone wanting to disable flashes because they get flashed and dont like it obviously dont have the skills to avoid them either.
Maybe we should take away recoil next.
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if you do anything you should tone down the over powered grenades that are a bunch of bs
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Maybe we should take away recoil next.
Brilliant idea! I'm sure 2.5 players will love it.
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Brilliant idea! I'm sure 2.5 players will love it.
Noway, I prefer being the only one having it thx to hackzz :makemyday:
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And is it's been brought back to 12sec. because 20 do me really think of a headless chicken.
I don t put a youtube movie of that. its discusting but you know what i mean.
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You guys too tired of the message telling you to come here and vote, or can I have it active a few days more?
Poll closes the 15:th
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Well I only see it 50/75 times every day so for me it's no problem.
Heh jk it's boring but it has a positive effect, I guess sacrfices are needed ...
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You guys too tired of the message telling you to come here and vote of can I have it active a few days more?
Poll closes the 15:th
It helps a lot in driving more people to the forums :)
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Come on that one click is alright. Keep it up ELIZ!
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Flash them!
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As a moderator I see the vote result.. but do you as users see the amount of votes?
214 votes and counting, hopefully this will be a fair representation of the AA25 players.
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they may see if they voted.
edit:
poll settings are to only show the results after its end
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Well it's not half of players joining every day I guess, but if they don't come vote it means they don't care ...
And no we don't see
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no secret 12sec. gonna win it big time :P
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Nope Spanky's gonna hack the system and put alot of votes for 20
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Nope Spanky's gonna hack the system and put alot of votes for 20
New flash time is going to be 60 seconds.
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Now players on another server will be also flashed.
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I laughed so hard, damn I'm tired :(
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Now players on another server will be also flashed.
:P
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20 seconds is just too long.. Longer than you would experience in real life. Maybe bring the fade in back quicker, but make that last longer.
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Shorten time! yay! 2.8.5 was a great version!
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Can you guys also do something on the annoying beeeeeeeep after and while you get flashed or when a nade explodes near to you. :o
Otherwise I think 80 % of the aa players will be deaf in a few years :D
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Can you guys also do something on the annoying beeeeeeeep after and while you get flashed or when a nade explodes near to you. :o
Otherwise I think 80 % of the aa players will be deaf in a few years :D
The ringing ears effect is how it's supposed to be.
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If u get a flash or a 203 near your face in real life u'd be happy if ur ears aren't destroyed. The game is about realism
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30 seconds Flash is winning for now guys. :)
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You mean 20, not 30?
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I consider it as humour, right? :)
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12 sec, in real life flash bangs are shorter than 20 sec and it must be a fast action after flashbang someone...
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in real life people don't wait behind a door with a flashbang in their hand ...
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12 sec, in real life flash bangs are shorter than 20 sec and it must be a fast action after flashbang someone...
The ringing in your ears lasts for hours. You may not be "blind" for very long, but the bang disturbs the fluid in your ear and gives you a nice case of vertigo. I prefer a few more seconds of blindness in the game to having my soldier stumble around and fall over like a drunk.
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in real life people don't wait behind a door with a flashbang in their hand ...
in real life ppl flash others behind doors :)
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in real life people don't wait behind a door with a flashbang in their hand ...
In real life people dont sit in 1 spot with an RPG and wait for an enemy to come by hopefully after 14 hours.
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In real life people dont sit in 1 spot with an RPG and wait for an enemy to come by hopefully after 14 hours.
Yeah fuk modded server, lets change topic !!! :down:
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In real life people dont sit in 1 spot with an RPG and wait for an enemy to come by hopefully after 14 hours.
not rly :)
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Don't compare a game to real life :p
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Ofcourse we compare it to real life, it must be realistic, but you don't have to forget it's only a game.
You can compare it to real life but don't take it for real life
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Ofcourse we compare it to real life, it must be realistic, but you don't have to forget it's only a game.
You can compare it to real life but don't take it for real life
I get lag in real life.
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I get more kills in real life #badass
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2.8.5 (12 sec)
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just use a Suicide keybind and be done with it, they ain't doing shit about the flash time , and Suicide keybind work for who ever said it doesn't
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votekick and admin kick does work too, in case some dumb suicide cuz of a flash.
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Can you get some kind of voting percentage? 10-15%?
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A clear win with 151 votes (66.2%).for the 12 seconds option.
You will have to wait until next update, witch is planned to roll out on the 21:st this month.
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A clear win with 151 votes (66.2%).for the 12 seconds option.
You will have to wait until next update, witch is planned to roll out on the 21:st this month.
Can't wait man!
Please fix the sound too because when you on high volume your ears are likely to blow up from that noise...
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Then turn your volume down.
That's the effect of the flashbang - a flash and a bang. You're not supposed to hear after it goes off.
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66.2%,19.3%,14.5%
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66.2%,19.3%,14.5%
when u gonna fix them?
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when u gonna fix them?
A clear win with 151 votes (66.2%).for the 12 seconds option.
You will have to wait until next update, witch is planned to roll out on the 21:st this month.
I know what he said was hard to understand so I highlighted important details.
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Then turn your volume down.
That's the effect of the flashbang - a flash and a bang. You're not supposed to hear after it goes off.
I play high volumed so I can hear enemy how I'm supposed to turn my volume down when I need that..
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It's really simple. You have to figure out which is more important, your hearing or hearing the enemy. It's the same way for everyone.
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when u gonna fix them?
when you drop some money in my paypal.
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when you drop some money in my paypal.
ROFLMAO
I know what he said was hard to understand so I highlighted important details.
i didn't seen the post,ty for help
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A clear win with 151 votes (66.2%).for the 12 seconds option.
You will have to wait until next update, witch is planned to roll out on the 21:st this month.
Nice