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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: deniiz on Friday, January 25, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
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Hello AAO comm.
As i said i'm trying to get the AAO game back to the ESL for e compative league system.
I had some contacts with Admins form ESL, and they are in the deciding moments. Today i had an e-mail from an ESL Admin on the ESL page, i was checking it up.
The info there was, that they are going to Make a Test Cup, too see How many teams/players are able or avaiable, and they will decide afterwards.
So if the Cup is announced, please guys! SIGN UP AND LETS ROCK! :)
*edit*: Im trying to get the Cup moved into a tournament like you can remember from the ESL EMS Groupstage, so you can play 1 match each week, so every team finds a Time/date which fits.
Otherwhise in a Cup ( which is probably on Sunday ), there are not all teams who are able to play i guess :)
Regards,
deniiz
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Great!
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Great!
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Marvellous !
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ESL Wire :)
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Deniiz tell the admin to contact me if he wants -> [email protected]
So i can help on match disputes and stuff related with players playing for other teams, cheat using, etc. I will be glad to help them.
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now this need to be advertised, please Segio or Eliz make it in the assist popup when it needs.
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i hope that the admins ll have some balls to ban hackers....so we dont end up like last time 1 year playing vs nipples and freakin
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oh nice with sergio as admin we r safe :up:
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if someone make a good post about, with links and enough info I can post a News in the site and then put it on Assist client news(wich you see the Urban slots thing) but the space there is limited, thats why we should first have a news posted at the site.
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very cool even though I'm not EU this is very good news. Hope everyone takes this seriously, good luck guys.
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oh nice with sergio as admin we r safe :up:
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hes always trying to get more busy lol
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I'm not volunteering for admin there, only saying i can help ;)
And yes, more busy because at the end of the day i just keep loving this game :wub:
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i hope that the admins ll have some balls to ban hackers....so we dont end up like last time 1 year playing vs nipples and freakin
i like how bad those 2 actually were even with hacks. well u only noticed when u had played poolday against them ;)
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Deniz maybe they could already set it up or something and open it later then because then I could send an mass email from daily about ESL and then people will see it throught esl
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nice deNiiz :) :up:
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Hello Everybody!
Ok i got good news for the AAO Section.
Today i recieved the Final Mail with the decision, that the Test Cup well be outplayed soon!
I'm talking with them now about the Mappool and Rules etc.
I have a question to you, what do you guys think about a Matchsystem which is played in MR15 mode, like every other ego shooter?
Its like 30 Rounds Urban Assault, 15 per side, the match takes longer then, but i guess its better, and it can be more intresting.
If you disslike it we can play like we've played now the MR6 system. But i guess Mr15 would be cool :)
Otherwhise i guess we're going to play like we've played in the EMS Groupstage phase, like every Team will vote a map out and finaly you can choose one, and the last one is the OT Map.
I guess Mappool will be:
Collapsed Tunnel
Sf Sandstorm
Dusk ( maybe ESL Dusk if we can get it back, would be great! )
Mout McKenna
Pipeline
Insurgent Camp
Urban Assault
if you can't remember, its like this: http://www.esl.eu/eu/ems/season6/aao/groupstage/match/18350713/
What do you guys think?
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would be nice ..
I prefer MR6 ( my opinion ) MR15 is ab it too long, no?
don't forget Weapon cache...
otherwise good job
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would be nice ..
I prefer MR6 ( my opinion ) MR15 is ab it too long, no?
don't forget Weapon cache...
otherwise good job
maybe MR15 is too long, but mr6 is too short, i guess :D 1 team can have a bad start like 2 rounds, and the map is already won by the opponent you know
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maybe MR15 is too long, but mr6 is too short, i guess :D 1 team can have a bad start like 2 rounds, and the map is already won by the opponent you know
Maybe mr 8 is good?Cus MR15 and with 3 mins round and also if u include discard rounds and mission plannings 1 map takes like 1.30 hours or more even...
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yea mr8 would be perfect. just add weapons cache to that maplist and its fine
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Collapsed Tunnel
Sf Sandstorm
Dusk ( maybe ESL Dusk if we can get it back, would be great! )
Mout McKenna
Pipeline
Insurgent Camp
Urban Assault
Weapons Cache
so one more map is needed to keep the eliminate thing keep working
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Maybe we should take a long rage map in like Bridge Crossing or even Farm Raid ( god I love this map) . Or what about SF CSAR? They were all nice competitive maps back then
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I was talking to some PPL and we decide that the mappool will be:
Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
Pipeline 4min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
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nah, i wud prefer mr10. cause mr8 sounds shit and looks shit ;) it's also the best option to the mr 6 or mr15 decision.
nevertheless, if u put long range into the mappool, the match will take much longer.
so i wud prefer sf csar or remove one from the current list
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mr8 should be fine. maybe swap csar with border?
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What is the difference between Dusk and ESL Dusk?
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What is the difference between Dusk and ESL Dusk?
esl dusk has a carriable obj not a vip
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And we got it.
You are close to ESL now and you are making it for yourself. Where are open maps? Where is the rest of the maps?
This game is not only UA, IC, MCK, WC, CT.
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And we got it.
You are close to ESL now and you are making it for yourself. Where are open maps? Where are the rest of the maps?
This game is not only UA, IC, MCK, WC, CT.
I dont make it for myself, this is just a test cup, you cant go in with 30 maps, there must be a system, if we're back in esl, we can still choose how we want to play ;) this is a CUP
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And we got it.
You are close to ESL now and you are making it for yourself. Where are open maps? Where is the rest of the maps?
This game is not only UA, IC, MCK, WC, CT.
x1500100900 :)
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chil out guys, we can still organize a competition on aascrim.eu with a diferent maplist. i think its better for aa like this. esl system always been like these, fast maps, short maptimes. on other hand we can have a better project on aa scrim wtih diferent maplist, more LR maps etc.
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Its just about this cup to let them see how Active we are, afterwards if we are back in ESL we still can mAke the ladder with every map ;) comeon guys.. I try my best and you start whining already
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we can have a better project on aa scrim wtih diferent maplist, more LR maps etc.
im sure not everybody wud play this ;)
if we want to play esl, play fast and dynamic
ppl will get bored if they see how ppl are proning 5mins. no offense tidi but putting those maps into esl is not appropriate. like gonca said put them into aascrim
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im sure not everybody wud play this ;)
if we want to play esl, play fast and dynamic
ppl will get bored if they see how ppl are proning 5mins. no offense tidi but putting those maps into esl is not appropriate. like gonca said put them into aascrim
Its what I said. You made this for yourself only.
In your vision AA won't be too long on ESL again, believe me. But it's your way, do whatever you want. You are just dividing the scene.
We brought this game back to life. I've (yes, I can say that) brought competitions back. You didn't play for longer time, you heared about competitions, you came back to play Winter League. And what now? You are going to ESL to play CQB maps only. It's weird, it's typical sabotage.
In your mind, it's- "fuck them, they likes to play open maps? hahaha, go to your aascrim to play that, I dont care, I have esl and i wont play shit maps again".
This game came back to life. And you are killing it again.
OK, this will be only Test Cup, but I hope in future ESL will be a place for all players.
You are really optimist. But leave your hope behind. If you want to play matches, be ready from 5 maps only.
I'm out of this topic. Don't count on my help.
Panem et circenses.
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We can make competition with 5-7 dynamic maps for 10 teams on ESL and another competitions with another maps for 5 teams on AA Scrim.
However we can make competition with 5-7 dynamic maps (66%) and another maps (33%) for 15 teams on one site.
OK, this will be only Test Cup, but I hope in future ESL will be a place for all players.
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cmon ur not helping with ur coments..last time AA was really alive and kicking it was the time when we got this map list on ESL. ppl from open and main skill level need to focus on some maps so they start learning and getting intrested in this game. lr and boring maps wont help at all. but they will still be played. its much more health for aa to have 2 competitions, 2 organisations,2 groups of ppl thinking diferent way. ESL and aascrim can offer both things to game. esl(fast game play maps) and aascrim lr and slow maps. 2 diferent styles of playing
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maybe u r right tidi, and im dividing the community with saying play fast and dynamic maps, but if there wud not be such competitions we wudnt been here again.
so i guess u know how this will be. if we play those maps we played on ems and invite leagues competitive player will be satisfied. if u put lr and other weird stuff in it u will satisfy the pubbers and open players.
its like it always is, black or white, u know what i mean. u will never satisfy everyone
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chil out guys, we can still organize a competition on aascrim.eu with a diferent maplist. i think its better for aa like this. esl system always been like these, fast maps, short maptimes. on other hand we can have a better project on aa scrim wtih diferent maplist, more LR maps etc.
so, aascrim died?
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cmon ur not helping with ur coments..last time AA was really alive and kicking it was the time when we got this map list on ESL.
On ESL PL we had competition with several dozens of clans divided into 3-4 leagues (for example: http://www.esl.eu/pl/aao/news/49290/). Administrators did not limit the mappool. Most of the matches were played on the most popular maps, but not only, and everyone was happy. It functioned for 8 seasons!
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Sure that can work too, I remember in times of CAL, playing matches on hq raid, farm, montain ambush, and it was ok. we will see how it goes, this is just a cup, ppl are raging for nothing. we cant make 20 maps on a simple cup just to see how many teams will be active.
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so, aascrim died?
No, its temporarily pointing to this thread so everyone has an input and gets more exposure
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Mout
hq raid
Mountain Pass
River Basin
*.*
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MA, HQ Raid, WO... There also other maps, mix between cqb and lr, quick maps that can be used to diversify the competition...
Anyway, anyone got the ESL Dusk map? Give a link so ELiZ can take care of it ;)
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if you pick MA and RB, leave IC out, imo :)
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Anyone can confirm this is the map?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9bk18pz3ractpq/ESLDusk.aao 19.366kb
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Deve ser, so havia 1
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put there all maps or many teams wont sign in.....and as u said u need many teams in this first cup...than u can make ua mmk night cups or ua league or w/e.....
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so instead of an 9 maplist elimination, you guys prefer a 15 map list, with hqraid, farmraid, montainambush etc and each team chooses 1 map?
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Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Pipeline 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
HQ Raid 4min
Woodland Outpost 4min
Swamp Raid 4min
JTRC Farm Raid 5min
River Basin 5min
Montain Ambush 5min
Instead of map elimination,every team will choose 1 map. Its equal for LR and cqb teams now. you guys agree with this?
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yes
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How about swamp raid instead of river basin?
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forgot to add it ur right
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Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Pipeline 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
HQ Raid 4min
Woodland Outpost 4min
Swamp Raid 4min
JTRC Farm Raid 5min
River Basin 5min
Montain Ambush 5min
Instead of map elimination,every team will choose 1 map. Its equal for LR and cqb teams now. you guys agree with this?
perfect maplist, 'cept for tunnel, it's just a flash n spam map, everything decided in the first 20 seconds. bridge se instead maybe.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/6if4zfqow7bt4cl/MP_ESLDusk.aao
Already for 2.5, Goose is now going to fix everything else and remove Smoke from Escort AR and Vip. Any other request guys?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/6if4zfqow7bt4cl/MP_ESLDusk.aao
Already for 2.5, Goose is now going to fix everything else and remove Smoke from Escort AR and Vip. Any other request guys?
why remove something? just let ESL DUSK how it is ;) it was pretty good thats why we want to play Esl dusk ;)
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nah, 2 smokes for escort is better. otherwide you could just smoke whole extraction and rush in.
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lol tididi, im surprised about your comment, bringing back esl would be an achievement, winter league started fine untill now, its half dead, and none cares about it, esl was good and organized system, so good luck with esl and have fun.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/6if4zfqow7bt4cl/MP_ESLDusk.aao
Already for 2.5, Goose is now going to fix everything else and remove Smoke from Escort AR and Vip. Any other request guys?
Map has been fixed and ready to be added to Assist.
Changes:
-No smoke for VIP class.
-No smokes for AR class on Escort side.
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Map has been fixed and ready to be added to Assist.
Changes:
-No smoke for VIP class.
-No smokes for AR class on Escort side.
thanks alot :)
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thanks alot :)
Anytime. :)
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put there bc and bc se pls
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Bridge is enough I guess
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i dont get u...u want many teams in that cup but ur cuting maps.......maplist in wl was fine try to think why there is 28 teams
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gj!
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i dont get u...u want many teams in that cup but ur cuting maps.......maplist in wl was fine try to think why there is 28 teams
The reason there where 28 teams was because there werent other choices for them if they wanted to play.
Cutting maps has been proven in the past and in other competitive games to be better for competition, this is based on experience. Look at CS for example, look at the esports websites and you'll see.
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i wont be arsed to play BC, neither some 6-7min map, BC is shit map for competition and booring.
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i wont be arsed to play BC, neither some 6-7min map, BC is shit map for competition and booring.
Bridge SE is pretty cool tbh
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I get the point that people want LR too, and that the first maplist was unequal.
But for a fact, you can say these maps aren't being played much nowadays (public wise, and matchwise compared to other maps), no matter for what reason.
So on one hand you get yours, on the other, any new players/teams will be lost at hq/swap/woodland/ma/ w/e.
And it's not just new players I played since somewhere in 03 to end of 06, I knew and played these maps on pub and in competition, I ( and by saying I , I mean me and 8 more friends from back then who came back playing ) don't remember squat about these maps anymore, wish I did, and I don't mind learning them again except I have no way to do so really.
Anyways new maplist is fixed, not trying to change it, but there was a good point about the first list being short and simple for the first cup , as they said, it was only for the first cup.
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my point was: put in first cup all maps so ur sure all teams ll join.than once we r back in esl u can cut the maps.but u ll lose some teams.situation in cs and now in aao is diffirent they had 300 teams we have 28 i think that we cant afford lose any.
and bridge is good map for competition...without tactice and practise u cant win...no graphic tweaks wont help u like on other lr maps....
maybe tip for next update:make sure all players see same far...put away that if u look side u see further...some players can see that far withot looking side
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maplist will stay like these. its equal for lr and cqb players. too bad for bridge crossing whores but hey
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4 mins r enough for bc.....for someone is boring ua or ic or tunel or mmk....look who left in esl last time...only few teams who liked ua mmk tunel ic.....there is like 5 teams in wl im sure wont go to esl without all maps....ur choice suffer from time to time some map u dont like or be kicked from esl for inactivity again
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maplist will stay like these. its equal for lr and cqb players. too bad for bridge crossing whores but hey
who decide on the maplist??just put there bridge and sf oasis or sf pcr......the problem off aao is the playing admins who cares only about their team and their wins
u shud ask for help big sergio he is the only one grown up who ll make the best decision for aao not for sk
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dude u have to no clue what u talking about. wont even bother to awser you. im not the one talking with esl admin, nt there tho
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dude u have to no clue what u talking about. wont even bother to awser you. im not the one talking with esl admin, nt there tho
it's me who's talking to esl admin ;)
and believe me, we were talking about everything, and he said not too much maps otherwhise its going too long ;)
and thats why WE picked the most played maps in it, it's about this test cup, not about how ESL will be afterwards you should get this 1m50ry, you think nobody will play ESL then, okay okay.. will you make everything with ESL? spend time like me yday arround 5 hours to set everything up with ESL?
you can play your BC and stuff when the GAME is back, but to bring the game back, we should play like it is most attractive, and sry, if they see 4 ppls proning on a hill, behind the wood watching a bridge, isn't really attraktive ;)
you can do my job if you want i don't care i just want to bring this game back to esl to play compative, so i can't listen to every wish i'm sry,
before ESL shut aao down ( btw AAO wasn't deleted of inactivity, it was deleted because U.S. Army shut it down ;) )
there were only UA MMK CT IC ESLDUSK PIPE and SF SS and nobody had a problem with it, and now a player like you which i doesn't even know is flaming the whole time about the mappool, dude, ITS JUST FOR BRINGING IT BACK, NOT FOR THE LADDER SYSTEM AFTERWARDS!!! get this
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ITS JUST FOR BRINGING IT BACK, NOT FOR THE LADDER SYSTEM AFTERWARDS!!! get this
thats what im trying to tell u put to this cup all maps so all teams join.......
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thats what im trying to tell u put to this cup all maps so all teams join.......
you didn't even read did you?
The esl admin already gave the reasoning for this. I already gave a reasoning for this, you will never win this argument because it is evidently proven by other games and in the AA past that a big mappool for 1 cup does not work as well as a cup with a few maps, you can make different cups with different maplists but the other format just is NOT the most attractive one and will NOT be it for ESL because that is not the way they do their leagues.
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you didn't even read did you?
The esl admin already gave the reasoning for this. I already gave a reasoning for this, you will never win this argument because it is evidently proven by other games and in the AA past that a big mappool for 1 cup does not work as well as a cup with a few maps, you can make different cups with different maplists but the other format just is NOT the most attractive one and will NOT be it for ESL because that is not the way they do their leagues.
exactly, but he don't get it for sure..
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pubbers will never get this, tired of reading this topic. it's getting too bitchy
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you didn't even read did you?
The esl admin already gave the reasoning for this. I already gave a reasoning for this, you will never win this argument because it is evidently proven by other games and in the AA past that a big mappool for 1 cup does not work as well as a cup with a few maps, you can make different cups with different maplists but the other format just is NOT the most attractive one and will NOT be it for ESL because that is not the way they do their leagues.
tidi already proved for me that his maplist is good he has 28 teams in his league
u cant compare aao with 28 teams and 15$ donators to cs with 300teams and 100000$ sponsors.
if u tell to esl admins that more maps means more teams im sure they ll not have problem with it
but w/e guys do what u think is best i hope u ll succed.
and cmone give some respect to pubbers.....u shud be encouraging em to join competitions even teaching em not shit on their heads anytime u own em...
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tidi already proved for me that his maplist is good he has 28 teams in his league
u cant compare aao with 28 teams and 15$ donators to cs with 300teams and 100000$ sponsors.
if u tell to esl admins that more maps means more teams im sure they ll not have problem with it
but w/e guys do what u think is best i hope u ll succed.
and cmone give some respect to pubbers.....u shud be encouraging em to join competitions even teaching em not shit on their heads anytime u own em...
See, you didnt read what I said, read back why it has 28 teams (exactly, no other leagues to join, people wanted a league, this is their only option, so they have to play there even if they do not like the full maplist).
And I won't compare the numbers, but how big are the odds that they have never tried the format with more maps which gave them the conclusion less maps in a league is better.
Do you really think they came up with this format and never even thought about changing it or trying other things in all those years their community developped?
And this is not only the case in that game, but in many other games as well.
I do beleive you like the big maplist though ;)
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btw in those 28 teams, only 8 are active
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he said not too much maps otherwhise its going too long
Really? When I was AA admin in ESL PL none of Master ESL admins cared about maplist. The most important was number of active teams, because probably some of them want to play in ESL Amateur Series and ESL Pro Series and will buy Premium Accounts.
if they see 4 ppls proning on a hill, behind the wood watching a bridge, isn't really attraktive ;)
Who is "they"? Who will be watching matches in this Test Cup? ESL admins? Will there be videocasts?
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See, you didnt read what I said, read back why it has 28 teams (exactly, no other leagues to join, people wanted a league, this is their only option, so they have to play there even if they do not like the full maplist).
its not true many of teams would not join if there were not their maps...........best way how to find out is make a poll
And I won't compare the numbers, but how big are the odds that they have never tried the format with more maps which gave them the conclusion less maps in a league is better.
Do you really think they came up with this format and never even thought about changing it or trying other things in all those years their community developped?
i was talking for THIS opening cup....it was idea HOW to get most teams.....and NO things which works in cs wont work in aao
if u play game for money u just learn any map admins say
if u play for fun u wont
.....well u ll see
I do beleive you like the big maplist though ;)
i dont like it...im talking for teams which r picking sf pcr and sf oasis agaisnt us and losing on mmk 12-0 than
if this what u going to do ll be succesfull ill be only happy ....no need to argue with me just think about what i say and do what ever u think is best
its just my 2 cents so let me be noobs :makemyday:
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Thats the point. There must be a small number of maps, which all players know. you cant say whos better if there are 30 maps, cuz its just to much! if you have 5 maps, all playing, you will see which team is the best and thats it! and wow! u seriously talk about WL? 28 Teams, around 15-20 teams inactive. dont make me laugh xD
just join this shit cup, if we have AAO back on ESL we can make different cups and ladders with all maps in the mappool. just give it a chance, join up and let us be succesfull. Mappool and other stuff can be added any day when the game is back and we have some admins.
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if you have 5 maps, all playing, you will see which team is the best and thats it!
Ok, but if it will be only 5 CQB maps (probably UA, McK, IC, Dusk and Pipeline/SS/CT) we will see which team is the best on this 5 CQB maps.
Maybe 2 CQB, 2 LR and 1 SF map? It's also only five maps and everybody can easily learn them all. However I think that the best clans know all maps, not only 5 CQB maps.
It is easy to be an decision-maker and choose maps according to your own preferences.
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so much arguing, if this is what its like now, whats it going to be like if AA does actually get back in ESL.
ESL probably are not really interested in this game anyway, it will just be added to there free games list,
Current prize fund budget for Dota 2 and CSGO is $156,000 per game, gl
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hey guys, the testcup will start on 16th of February, you will be ready to sign up soon.
Don't forget to change your PB_GUID to BATTLETRACKER ID on your gameaccounts centre.
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Don't need to change the pb guid, when u do add, there's the battletracker id option now
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Don't need to change the pb guid, when u do add, there's the battletracker id option now
that's what i ment :D
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Oh, nvm then ^^
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Getting rid of sf sandstorm would be a good move altogether. Loud and ugly map for viewers/players
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If anyone needs a player, i'm free to help ;)
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Getting rid of sf sandstorm would be a good move altogether. Loud and ugly map for viewers/players
If you'r shit on it, doesnt means its ugly, one of the best maps for overtime.
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You have requested this game, we've done a cup just for you! Be ready and sign up to the first Americas Army: Operations Cup within the EU section. Depending on the success (and problems) of the cup, we could open the section. But right now, spread the word about this cup!
http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/news/213789/
you have it, now make the most of it
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Great job with maps liars.
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If anyone needs a player, i'm free to help ;)
as you know my friend, you are always welcome :)
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Great job with maps liars.
I don't know who did the map list for the cup, but let's just try to get this game back on ESL and then we can discuss later about maps and other things, come on guys sign up!!!
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i need a contact there!
I want to sponsor some Pricemoney/Premium/etc. for the AAO Teams!
Which person has the power there? (ESL)
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Try to contact the admins that replied to the topic
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i need a contact there!
I want to sponsor some Pricemoney/Premium/etc. for the AAO Teams!
Which person has the power there? (ESL)
Steve has also some powers there
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Hi Hendrik,
It's Test/Revival Cup, so you can win only ESL premium (if 16 teams). Depending on the success of the cup, we could open the section and possibly cups with prizemoney.
Best Regards,
Piskor.
we need activity!
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come on guys sign up!!!
i have no team :/
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We already sign up, now move your asses and join, I think we can reach 16 teams for this cup :D
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i have no team :/
Try to find other players without team and make a new one
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Show me good teamless players o_O
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we got enough
just people from s3xy and some others shud finally start playing as a team against others.
we wud be more then 20 team easily
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kann ich dazu kommen ?
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Maybe you can make news about it on the first pages and put it on assist like the flashbang vote???
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Guys advertise this as much as you can il try to set up dailys mass email for ESL
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till now supersick is the only member, get your teams ready guys, show ESL what we got ;).
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till now supersick is the only member, get your teams ready guys, show ESL what we got ;).
signed our estonian team and one more estonian team is signing also
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we are afk at weekend :P gonna do that tomorrow
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http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/
you can register your team on ESL and sign up for the cup!
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http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/
you can register your team on ESL and sign up for the cup!
Yea u can deniz, dont see ur team there
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we will join,
get those =PE=,s3xy, sVs, ambient5,highfive, teamexc, mortiferus, swiss teams to the cup
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=]PE[= is working on it! :up:
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mii2 will join aswell
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we will join,
get those =PE=,s3xy, sVs, ambient5,highfive, teamexc, mortiferus, swiss teams to the cup
SWISS has already signed up if I'm not mistaken (at least I joined our team there, maybe we haven't joined the cup yet).
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yes, we haven't joint the cup yet, because i always are rejected with the message:
al least 4 players have not account information. but there are informations like bt id, bp id ...
i dont know what the problem is at the moment.
but there is time until 28th i guess.
question: when you sign in, can you still add more players to the clan signed up?
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yes, but i would suggest, u guys should sign up with 2 teams cause you are more then 8/10 people ;)
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thank you for the feedback.
we can not join with 2 teams cause we are at other tournaments already active.
even at wl we had to stop (very sorry about that), cause more then 2 scrims a week - and to fix the dates and time for it - is too much for a clan.
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you need to log in, then go to this link http://www.esl.eu/eu/add_gameaccount/ and add your battletracker ID. 4 players need to do that atleast, so you can sign up to the cup, the rest can do it later
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you need to log in, then go to this link http://www.esl.eu/eu/add_gameaccount/ and add your battletracker ID. 4 players need to do that atleast, so you can sign up to the cup, the rest can do it later
oh, thanks for this information. didn't know this with at least 4 correct players
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there are shit loads of clans mortiferus ht and so on
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Mortiferus is saying ESL is shit. They prefer DeSBL or what ever xD
Had a long conversation with jopd. Probably talk with teams, im contacting teams all the time.
Right now it looks bad, 5 teams only right now. Terrible!
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yap, majestic and team exit wont play because they dont like the rules lol. its the comunity we got :D
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some may fear the 'WIRE'.
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Ambient 5 isn't sure to play, we want to play different map than you have selected. We prefer old school maps.
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yea but this cup is only 17 february, its just one day. If we dont get 16 teams in that day, AA wont be accepted in ESL, and u cant play more maps
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stop being selfish, lots of people wanna play esl, its not like you MUST play esl after that, you can always quit))
i had my doubts in this winter league, but still i joined, im teamless anyway, but still wanna see aa in esl.
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IMO just change mappool and u will get more teams
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ya exacly, they kinda make a protest cuz they dont like this map list and mr times. I dont like it either, but still im going to play, to help aa grow and get in esl. after that we all can agree in rules and maplists.
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IMO just change mappool and u will get more teams
map pool will be changed after this cup. u just have to play these maps 1 day. I dont like it either, but join to help aa stop acting like that
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It isn't possible to play all matches in one day. Maybe in MR6, but not in MR9...
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mappool, what a big deal lol
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It isn't possible to play all matches in one day. Maybe in MR6, but not in MR9...
it map elimination braw. u dont have to play all maps
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mappool, what a big deal lol
yea no big deal but i think it will help to bring more teams like it was in WL
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it map elimination braw. u dont have to play all maps
rly?
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time to call all your mates to play AA a bit, just for ESL :)
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i see aa will be rejected cuz of the community same like ages before....
good gustav
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lol, they added ESL Dusk before we rly add that map.
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seems like noone here actually growed up.
childish actions going on here. maybe 28 teams signed up WL but it's way too inactive, laddersystem won't be used also.
everyone wants something other than others, so if you want only your way to be the right way, others won't sign up.
im sure some wouldn't come back if they knew you are making such a fool out of it
grow up, play the game you like and make a compromise.
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lol, they added ESL Dusk before we rly add that map.
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i see aa will be rejected cuz of the community same like ages before....
good gustav
Who the fuck are you to talk about the "community"? Just because 5 or 6 guys want this, specific cup to work, doesn't mean that you can talk in behalf the whole "community".
Stop confusing what you guys want with what "community" want!!
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Who the fuck are you to talk about the "community"? Just because 5 or 6 guys want this, specific cup to work, doesn't mean that you can talk in behalf the whole "community".
Stop confusing what you guys want with what "community" want!!
he means the competition comunity, im sure ur not included in that
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Looks like the "competition community" doesn't like that either...
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flame us more, we like it. No one will force us to play.
Give a better product to us. To Majestic, to Exit, to Mortiferus, to the other. Then you will get more teams.
You wanted to make it as soon as possible. But now you have a problem.
If someone wants to say something low or stupid, come to teamspeak.
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tbh esl look way more "better product" than winterleague, just saying ..
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Because its simple- ppl wants to play, but they dont wants to help.
If i get a people with power and energy, I can make huge things, 2x better than ESL. But I'm alone.
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lots of EUROS playing daily and only a few teams signed up?
ppl beter get on ESL now and try ESL Wire before the matchs, to avoid future issues...
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Because its simple- ppl wants to play, but they dont wants to help.
If i get a people with power and energy, I can make huge things, 2x better than ESL. But I'm alone.
I already told u 20 times i want to help u. u asked help to update results im going it, im also deleting all the spam from bots on forum
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Tidi what's going on @ WL is not your fault nor because you had little help, it just looks like people aren't active as they wish they would be (including my team and myself - sorry for that , feels like we damaged the league by being inactive - not alone in that though , any other time i'd do more myself to help run that system but I simply can't).
Anyways I don't think there's lac of appreciation for WL by going to ESL, it's human nature to have big eyes and wanting more when we can't finish our first plate.
Nevertheless, I'll try registering my team to ESL Cup since it's only one day (right?) and play it, so this game will have an easy option for competitive gaming @ esl.
I can understand why you and other teams don't want to join, but I can't see how it could do much wrong for you guys if you DID register. overall, it looks like you're going through allot of effort to move things in here, and trying to do good. - this is just another way to do so, only it takes much less effort and time for you guys
Please reconsider.
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You're doing cup with your own map list and now you're surprised by the small number of teams entered?
A compromise is needed now, not in the future. Without a compromise now maybe there won't be the future on ESL.
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You're doing cup with your own map list and now you're surprised by the small number of teams entered?
A compromise is needed now, not in the future. Without a compromise now maybe there won't be the future on ESL.
you really must be retarded..
the admins ( with steve ( old kiiz aka limited.e ) have choosen this maplist.. but okay :) your too dumb i guess
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ofc a compromise is needed now, and maybe the maps SHOULD be changed, yet, not joining because of these temp maps for the temp cup is not making any more sense than changing the map list ( that's right, I think not joining makes less sense ).
imho it's silly either way, so who want's to be the silly one this time?
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nice post there panther. too bad people just dont wanna do anything about it. esl will fail game will still be like it was before.
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It's quite simple, if you want to move on and get more popularity OUTSIDE the current community we have we will need ESL. This is because there are a lot of gamers on the ESL and they might want to try other games also once in a while. Nobody will ever hear of this game unless its mouth to mouth. Unless we're in ESL.
So tell me, do you want the game to join ESL to at least give it a chance, or do you just want it to fade out again?
Whats is the main concern with joining a test cup to see the activity? the maplist? I also like the mixed maplist more, I really prefer that one and I will still talk with some people to try having it changed. After AA gets accepted I will also make work of the maplist so it will include the maps in future leagues. But please don't give it up already. Also the fact that ESL Wire runs on the nbackground is a pre imo, because some players are getting paranoid and think some others are cheating, this will remove some doubt (or this will remove some cheaters:P )
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you really must be retarded..
the admins ( with steve ( old kiiz aka limited.e ) have choosen this maplist.. but okay :) your too dumb i guess
I have experience as a former ESL.PL admin.
We had small mappool only in competitions with money prizes (like ESL Pro Series). When we wanted to make competition with large number of teams, mappool was big with all types of maps. It's easy - tell that to "steve ( old kiiz aka limited.e )".
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We are try to change the maplist
Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Pipeline 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
HQ Raid 4min
Woodland Outpost 4min
Swamp Raid 4min
JTRC Farm Raid 5min
River Basin 5min
Montain Ambush 5min
with also bridge maybe
This one should be good for all, at least I hope
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On a semi-diff matter.
The cup is really one day? 4 games at most?-1/8- quarter - semi - final ?
If so, is it at the end of sign up date - 17.2? any idea at what time?
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On a semi-diff matter.
The cup is really one day? 4 games at most?-1/8- quarter - semi - final ?
If so, is it at the end of sign up date - 17.2? any idea at what time?
not it will be during the week, it starts on 17th
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It's quite simple, if you want to move on and get more popularity OUTSIDE the current community we have we will need ESL. This is because there are a lot of gamers on the ESL and they might want to try other games also once in a while. Nobody will ever hear of this game unless its mouth to mouth. Unless we're in ESL.
So tell me, do you want the game to join ESL to at least give it a chance, or do you just want it to fade out again?
Whats is the main concern with joining a test cup to see the activity? the maplist? I also like the mixed maplist more, I really prefer that one and I will still talk with some people to try having it changed. After AA gets accepted I will also make work of the maplist so it will include the maps in future leagues. But please don't give it up already. Also the fact that ESL Wire runs on the nbackground is a pre imo, because some players are getting paranoid and think some others are cheating, this will remove some doubt (or this will remove some cheaters:P )
qftw
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If ESL fails with the cup the competition scene will be dead and there is no chance to bring ESL back to AAO ever again.
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stop begging man, too much childish moaning in here. aascrim will never ever reach level of esl no matter which maps are played or how much time you got tidiboy. and if we got your maplist and all are satisfied, aascrim still gets bombed by "i dont give a shit" mentality
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Yo, I'm tidiboy without virtual ambitions and dreams of being big boy. Hell yeah!
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stop begging man, too much childish moaning in here. aascrim will never ever reach level of esl no matter which maps are played or how much time you got tidiboy. and if we got your maplist and all are satisfied, aascrim still gets bombed by "i dont give a shit" mentality
this is some kind of provocation dear :), but well done!
!! WEAK UP ALL AA2 PLAYERS !!
to join ESL will be the best promotion since a long time. other players from all over Europe can see then, that aa2 is still alive! and it would be great to put one feet into this tournament - and to do so isn't that hard like we all do now, right?
after aa2 is being accepted again at ESL, we can choose almost all the maps we would like to. so just give a little bit of your time to play the TEST tournament. let them see, that we are ready for further growing on aa2!
we will join for sure as a promise with our clan. and i will try to motivate some german clans to (we are playing a tournament at german's e-leage). i guess i can take one or two of them to join.
but what i miss - and others maybe too - can some one please post in here:
- when is the deadline for registration
- when does the test tournament starts (date and time)
- and when does it ends
- which map are played
- which mode is choosen (i do not understand that M9 or so). and can you explain it please
- how many matches has to be done by every clan at least
- thank you!
btw: if someone would like to join, but he's without a clan, tell me. i could make a 2nd or 3rd group with our clan tag, if you like and if this would be a reason for joining ESL then.
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Sign up ends at 17th of Feb (17.2) , games will be played during that week (17-23/4) I think. It's an elimination cup, for 16 teams there will be maximum 4 games ( if you get to the finals ). Maps are currently not set.
http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/news/213789/
Map list will probably change, more maps added.
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thank you!
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Yo, I'm tidiboy without virtual ambitions and dreams of being big boy. Hell yeah!
Cmon tidi it isnt that hard to join the cup just swallow for once your ego and join its always possible to change rules and maps after the cup when AA is accepted on ESL again
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please tidididi, please :'(
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just swallow for once your ego
Be serious please. Ego? In virtual game? With unknown people around? Bitch please.
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beg him, maybe it'll work -.-
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Can someone present a detailed schedule of each round?
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looks like maplist has been changed:
http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/news/213789/
Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Pipeline 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
HQ Raid 4min
Woodland Outpost 4min
Swamp Raid 4min
JTRC Farm Raid 5min
River Basin 5min
Montain Ambush 5min
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I was just about to write that :D
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http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/news/213789/
maplist edited, so join now ;)
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GJ Admins :)
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GJ Admins :)
Sergio maybe you can talk with Lifra and those guys?
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They left TS and everything. Addicted on Arctic Combat, honestly i don't see them coming, that's why i lost my team :/
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They left TS and everything. Addicted on Arctic Combat, honestly i don't see them coming, that's why i lost my team :/
Ah ye they were saying that everybody is cheating :D. But you could try to ask em
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nice to see hero turtles here.
8 teams atm are in hurry up guys http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/database/members/*/
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atleast even if you dont like it, it helps the game so we will join soon ...
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13 now, gogogo 3 more :D
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13 now, gogogo 3 more :D
14 now
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germans :)
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i did some post on face
http://www.facebook.com/AmericasArmy2
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o muj borze! We saved the game! We saved the scene! We signed in as 16th team! oh my godness, what a amazing feeling. e-orgasm. I can't sleep, adrenaline 100%!
ZURICH 13 WELCOME TO
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mii2 is also in!
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17 teams signed nice
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When it begins and so? i don't understand it exactly.. i know there is info on the site of esl but i don't get it.
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When it begins and so? i don't understand it exactly.. i know there is info on the site of esl but i don't get it.
Sign up ends at 17th of Feb (17.2) , games will be played during that week (17-23/4) I think. It's an elimination cup, for 16 teams there will be maximum 4 games ( if you get to the finals ). Maps are currently not set.
http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/news/213789/
Map list will probably change, more maps added.
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Can someone present a detailed schedule of each round? What are the exact dates of matches in 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and the final?
panther- wrote that games will be played during that week (17-23/4), but on ESL page (http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/rankings/) there are are set different dates (from 17 February to 17 March).
What is the official position of administrators of ESL?
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CUP IS LIVE GL HF http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/rankings/
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never mind when the matches are played, how the hell do u make wire start aao25?
i added the game manually but it wont show up in my games list in wire...
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never mind when the matches are played, how the hell do u make wire start aao25?
i added the game manually but it wont show up in my games list in wire...
no idea lol
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you have to open the game with assist, should not wire detect the game?
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you have to open the game with assist, should not wire detect the game?
didnt work
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Well if you check on first page i did write this:
Deniiz tell the admin to contact me if he wants -> [email protected]
So i can help on match disputes and stuff related with players playing for other teams, cheat using, etc. I will be glad to help them.
@ January 25, 2013, 02:09:45 PM
So... No contact besides Deniiz saying only he could talk with admins, bla bla bla...
What else can i say now?
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so wire doesnt work with assist? :S
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so wire doesnt work with assist? :S
jep they need to update the wire or smth
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when i look at the rules it seems that alot is left out. for example, how do we pick map. is there a place with more rules than the americas army operations rules?
i know alot is written in various forums but i would like to read the rules from the source.
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oh, and one more thing, what is mr9??? can someone pls explain the concept?
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9 rounds per side.
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when i look at the rules it seems that alot is left out. for example, how do we pick map. is there a place with more rules than the americas army operations rules?
i know alot is written in various forums but i would like to read the rules from the source.
both teams pick a map from the maplist. They didnt work the rules that good yet, cuz this was a cup to see if the game is active. im sure they will work on it later, since we got 25 teams
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you can't find any rule about map system, so i would prefer we stay with elimination, no matter what they say.
cause if you go for picking the map, teams are able to pick the same map over and over, AND are able to pick urban to play it in an overtime again. lol
whatever the first team already picked urban :)
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Can someone present a detailed schedule of each round? What are the exact dates of matches in 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and the final?
panther- wrote that games will be played during that week (17-23/4), but on ESL page (http://www.esl.eu/eu/new_games/aao_revivalcup/rankings/) there are are set different dates (from 17 February to 17 March).
What is the official position of administrators of ESL?
I guess the info page is the official one, games won't all be played during this week. Can't recall if I saw it written at rules or was told by someone who I thought knows best.
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Any ideas about ESL Wire?
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9 rounds per side.
if i understand this correctly...we play 18 rounds per map, first team to reach 10 rounds win that map, if both teams win one map then ot on urban?
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Match ends when any team wins 10 rounds.
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Match ends when any team wins 10 rounds.
so...how many rounds per map?
sorry if i keep bugging u but this is very confusing to a not so smart person like me :?
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9 rounds per side, 18 rounds per map.
You won 10 rounds, you won map. You won 2 maps, you won match.
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ty tididi for clearing that up! :up:
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another question :D (no, i am not jokeing)
Team A wins 1st map
Team B wins 2nd map
for a elimination cup, this would mean for score 1:1
and now, is there a overtime with another map.
if so, which one to play? who will make the dicision about? and is it to play just after the 2 maps played (would be midnight then) ?
or is it like:
Team A wins 1st map 13:5
Team B wins 2nd map 10:8
Team A wins 23:13 ?
thank you for helping me out there :)
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it says in rules that the overtime map is urban assault, so if its 1:1, 3rd map will be urban
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thank you, found it now :)
final question:
after 1st game is done, is it allowed to change players for the 2nd map?
Anticheats:
Using AA-Assist25 and ESL Wire is mandatory during every matches. Links from the AA and EWAC with Results has to be posted to the Match comments. If the upload fails, files generated by AA and EWAC have to be uploaded into matchmedia in 48 hours after match end.
Restrictions:
- actual account on US (www.battletracker.com)
- Battletracker ID entered in Gameaccounts
Matches are played using MR9 Single Elimination system. Match ends when any team wins 10 rounds. In case of draw, an overtime map will be URBAN ASSAULT .If any player leaves server or gets disconnected, he has 10 minutes to come back into server. After every single reconnect, server owner has to make a screenshot.
Mappool:
Collapsed Tunnel 3min
ESL Dusk 3min
Insurgent Camp 3min
Mout McKenna 3min
Urban Assault 3min
SF SandStorm 3min
SF CSAR 4min
Pipeline 4min
Weapons Cache 4min
HQ Raid 4min
Woodland Outpost 4min
Swamp Raid 4min
JTRC Farm Raid 5min
River Basin 5min
Montain Ambush 5min
Server Settings:
Endexrule have to be Off.
Max. Rounds have to be setted to 19.
The Teamsideswitch have to be set "After 9 Rounds"
All Slots open must be set to "disable"
Round time have to be set before the Tournament Start.
Every Match have to be played in the Tournament Mode.
The Hometeam is able to choose there side first.
Roundtime have to be setted for each map.
This Team which is on the Opponents Map has the Sidechoose.
Matchmedia:
Every Team have to make Screenshots in the end of every map and record demos. The Screenshots have to be uploaded in 48 hours after the match.
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thank you, found it now :)
final question:
after 1st game is done, is it allowed to change players for the 2nd map?
Yes.
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Every Team have to make Screenshots in the end of every map and record demos. The Screenshots have to be uploaded in 48 hours after the match.
I'm wontering how you take and game screenshot :P
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type shot in console or press f9?
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I'm wontering how you take and game screenshot :P
I press F9 in game
start-> run
%appdata%
25assist
Go to the screenshot map in AA, open the desired screenshots, save as .jpg in some folder( I made a seperate ESL folder for this), upload them.
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Hello Community
Since deniiz is not that active lately i will try to make sure to keep the conversation with ESL up. BiG_SerGiO i will surely let the admins know about you, since you do all the stuff for the game i think its nessecary to have you in the admin team. ESL Wire is not working yet, im sure they will fix all those things later when AA gets an own section. I need to talk with the ESL Admins first to know whats going on in the next days/weeks. I'll let you guys know as soon as possible what they were saying.
regards
sandz