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Title: Disappointment
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 16:53:07 PM
Disappointment

So i started playing in September 2004 with a group of real life friends that invited me so i could make their site, a project called Portuguese Rangers, few months later was Admin of the Portuguese Community called AAOPortugal, ingress on Portuguese Warriors aka PTwars where i still have some good friends, even if they went to other games or stopped playing because how life goes... Was HTGN Admin, admin on a Anti Cheating entity that belonged to August (sorry but can't remember the name), private member at PsB, ACI, AON, PBbans and joined TWL AC by end when i was playing everyday the game at CAL, TWL, ClanBase, ESL. I had haters because of what i was doing at TWL, i remember we banned like 100 players in 2 weeks maybe (Jackmeup and Cipher <3), had people following me on servers, calling names, making youtube videos of me with my hi5 pictures, was kinda LoL but i was always thinking, "well they are just kids..." So i was never a hardcore player or nothing even remotely related with that, most of you shouldn't even remember me, but i tried to always respect everyone.
I stopped playing around middle 2008, when Windows 7 got out, the sound wasn't the same for me, i had several hours on every map, knew almost every map sound and all the sudden was like a new game, i had to relearn every sound map but honestly didn't had the patience, so i stopped playing. Yes i played with sound, no tweaks needed, but a different OS changed the game as i knew it before.

Now getting to the point.
A few guys that were working on 2.5 for a long time finally had the chance to step up when authentication went down, and so it was. I heard about the project but was really busy at work and only had the chance to try the game again around March. Got addicted again, will always be my favorite game, the one...
What we have today should be like 85% old players and really enjoyed this game, being the remaining new players. So if 85% are old players, that were the kids on servers a few years ago, some of them should be grow up now right?
WRONG!!!
I never seen the game like this... And that's why i'm truly disappointed...
Everyone calling names, and i'm not talking noob names, offensive ones.
People don't understand the team meaning, they only wanna frag, even if they need to kill the teammate next to him.
People using cheats because it's so cool to own people on a free outdated game...
Players that no one ever heard about playing for one week already calling them selfs top players.
People don't understand what a mistake is or line of fire. Sometimes we can misplace a flash, why everyone now had to just teamkill you because of that?
And so on, really, i'm tired of this crap, it's a game, ffs, wanna offend people? Dial a random number on your mobile and talk with that person, don't come to a server insulting people that are there to relax.
This was during a war:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F7028%2Fshakirav.png&hash=461c8cefca103e160548b11079f98e16)
Are this our best players? Always bragging, no modesty, no respect for others...

Ok, i had to say this, most of you won't even read this or will be like WTH is wrong with him or even who is that guy...
*sigh* AA won't ever be the same, not because of the game, but people of the players, of those kids now are grew up but are even worst, at least while they are connected to a server... Just remember, you could complain before, there was a whole team working for you guys, to conquer you into the game, but not anymore, there are only people doing this for free, still waiting to please you guys but everything you do is come here and still complain like you are the boss of anyone in here.

Change yourselfs if you don't want this game to die all over again...
 :verymad:
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 16:56:50 PM
Now you know 100% about that feeling.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: -[unR]BENDAWICH on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:09:07 PM
I miss v1.2.1 =( Now those where the days. Was just fun with a tight knit community and no bs.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: -NicK.! on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:20:20 PM
Sergio, i wouldn't worry about shakira, he is just a little baby.

With projects like this is it always easy to get lost in the negative side of things. There are always going to be players who try and ruin other peoples fun. What you need to do is stay focused on the positive side of things. Many members of this community are counting on you guys to keep the game we love running. Dont let some asshole like shakira ruin that, because if you do, you are letting him succeed in what is is trying to do.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:24:31 PM
Dont let some asshole like shakira ruin that,

Kick him. Stone him. Fuck... ekhm, sorry.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: zoxee on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:33:20 PM
sergio, you should be shot :P

no idea how to spell that... shakira is a****************************************************** anyway
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: pit-23 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:38:00 PM
I don't give a fuck about all the idiots. I'm just happy I can play my hospital, whenever i wish to ;-D.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: zoxee on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:44:42 PM
So i started playing in September 2004 with a group of real life friends that invited me so i could make their site, a project called Portuguese Rangers, few months later was Admin of the Portuguese Community called AAOPortugal, ingress on Portuguese Warriors aka PTwars where i still have some good friends, even if they went to other games or stopped playing because how life goes... Was HTGN Admin, admin on a Anti Cheating entity that belonged to August (sorry but can't remember the name), private member at PsB, ACI, AON, PBbans and joined TWL AC by end when i was playing everyday the game at CAL, TWL, ClanBase, ESL.

btw be praised for your service and engagement bro  ;)
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: JunK on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:47:14 PM
Don't give a shit about other ppl...

You know that you doing a great job for the community and fans of AA2  :up:
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 17:56:32 PM
Disappointment

Yes i played with sound, no tweaks needed, but a different OS changed the game as i knew it before.

Now getting to the point.
A few guys that were working on 2.5 for a long time finally had the chance to step up when authentication went down, and so it was. I heard about the project but was really busy at work and only had the chance to try the game again around March. Got addicted again, will always be my favorite game, the one...
What we have today should be like 85% old players and really enjoyed this game, being the remaining new players. So if 85% are old players, that were the kids on servers a few years ago, some of them should be grow up now right?
WRONG!!!
I never seen the game like this... And that's why i'm truly disappointed...
Everyone calling names, and i'm not talking noob names, offensive ones.
People don't understand the team meaning, they only wanna frag, even if they need to kill the teammate next to him.
People using cheats because it's so cool to own people on a free outdated game...
Players that no one ever heard about playing for one week already calling them selfs top players.
People don't understand what a mistake is or line of fire. Sometimes we can misplace a flash, why everyone now had to just teamkill you because of that?
And so on, really, i'm tired of this crap, it's a game, ffs, wanna offend people? Dial a random number on your mobile and talk with that person, don't come to a server insulting people that are there to relax.
This was during a war:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F7028%2Fshakirav.png&hash=461c8cefca103e160548b11079f98e16)
Are this our best players? Always bragging, no modesty, no respect for others...

Ok, i had to say this, most of you won't even read this or will be like WTH is wrong with him or even who is that guy...
*sigh* AA won't ever be the same, not because of the game, but people of the players, of those kids now are grew up but are even worst, at least while they are connected to a server... Just remember, you could complain before, there was a whole team working for you guys, to conquer you into the game, but not anymore, there are only people doing this for free, still waiting to please you guys but everything you do is come here and still complain like you are the boss of anyone in here.

Change yourselfs if you don't want this game to die all over again...
 :verymad:

I used to play AA2 on windows XP and later i switched to win7, sound wasn't a huge issue for me. I still play the game, but it gets harder to have fun when people show really no respect to each other. Honor level and higher fragrate seems to be the everyday goal, almost everyone plays on his own. Sometimes I still take certain slots only to be a medic and do my job, helping teammates.

What kills the game also happens to be the amount of glitch and exploits being used. The well known "C" slot for B, crouching to standing position "tweaks", maps glitches (or particular areas you're not supposed to reach), sound tweaking and even brightness/contrast tweaking...

summing up the overall behavior of the average player of this "community" and since there's no decent feedback nor a wide enough supporting in every kind of form (even partecipating to the forums that now honestly look awful, i don't want to come back every evening just to read another "possible cheater thread", "ban appeal",  "sound tweaks" thread and so on) i don't really think the game will live on its own for many months ahead, unless a lot of things improves (including players behavior and partecipating, which i hardly believe).
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: BlueBlaster on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 18:17:39 PM
Sergio, you're too cool to worry about things like this :D

I've been on hidden on this scene since 2006, I know a few things about ignorant players. It's the ones with the loudest mouths that seem to cause the problems, but they are few and all they have are loud mouths :)



In addition, it's actually very nice to have met people like Sergio and company because they take their work seriously and are fun to work with. I would not have met them otherwise if the circumstances of AA had not fallen to the way it is today.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Gnar on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 18:25:03 PM
SERGIO I STILL LOVE YOU!!!!! <3

;D
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Possessed on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 19:01:12 PM
Spanky is spreading his viruses, watch out! rofl
like Pit said, I'm happy that I can play the game.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: wickid on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 19:03:36 PM
elmanate people from makn new accounts and these kiddie cheats will go away and the real honest players can play

there are plenty of players out there with old accounts if they are really interested in playn this game

btw didn't know u where in charge of this pit23, thx for making my fun possiable again : )    i got tired of playn bf3 4 now
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Jared on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 19:05:47 PM
i don't even pay attention to chat anymore  :D and only on comms with people i like and mute the rest.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Yahoo on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 19:35:57 PM
Vozes de burro...
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Alex on Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 22:21:23 PM
i don't even pay attention to chat anymore  :D and only on comms with people i like and mute the rest.
Well we had to let them know we only had 2 people. :P You'd think shakira would refrain from bragging when it was 4vs2 but nope. I lost a lot of respect fore the "pro players" in AA yesterday.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: ZakuAce on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 01:14:15 AM
Trolling is an integral part of 2.5, too bad s many people are bad at it.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Shakira on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 02:14:37 AM
this is the saddest thing ive ever read, ive played AA for 8 years, played on top teams, and always have done this in matches between teams, i guess the game just isnt the same, people complaining about the smallest thing, you wouldnt believe what trash talk has been said ot me in matches nothing compared to what i siad... seriously get over yourselves trash talk is a part of the game, and clearly you dont understand that...
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 02:36:04 AM
this is the saddest thing ive ever read, ive played AA for 8 years, played on top teams, and always have done this in matches between teams, i guess the game just isnt the same, people complaining about the smallest thing, you wouldnt believe what trash talk has been said ot me in matches nothing compared to what i siad... seriously get over yourselves trash talk is a part of the game, and clearly you dont understand that...

Trash-talk? "Portugalian shit" is trash-talk? You don't have an idea what trash-talk is about (go read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash-talk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash-talk)).

Yours was shit-talk not trash-talk.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Shakira on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 03:55:24 AM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Maxbulldog_53 on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 04:27:26 AM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...

im pretty sure in sports trash talk never gets the racial slurs. at least in none of the sports i've ever played. In this particular case. Eh, but i agree that a lot of people that play this game need to grow up a little bit
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: pit-23 on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 04:27:43 AM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...

You are hopeless. No wonder you were able to piss off Sergio.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: ^^UnDiSpUtEd^^ on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 06:11:12 AM
It's going to die..almoust reaching 110 people now..GL
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Yahoo on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 07:21:10 AM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...

As far as i know you are an idiot, just because people disrespect you, you shouln't do the same!
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: john on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 12:14:13 PM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...

^this

Everyone in this game have always been trash talking and rude. It's the same in every single game.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: zoxee on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 12:40:01 PM
Can we ban for stupidity?
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: -NicK.! on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
i have screenshots of people using racial slurs in matches, grow up, its trash talk, have you ever played a sport, you clearly dont know what trash talk is...
Lol that is awesome, the kid who talks shit in a match where his team is up 2 players told us to grow up. lmfao.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
I was just thinking of the whole thing... I mean when I die (which I do frequently), it sometimes seems like a BS shot, especially when someone does it twice or three times in a row, I call BS, but I never start accusing people of cheating in game, (unless of course it truly obvious) I just yell at my screen as loud as I can without disturbing people who might be near me, and that usually calms me down. I don't see the point in calling anyone who kills me a cheater, most of them probably aren't cheaters as there are A LOT of things one can do with pure luck in this game and most people probably have more skill in game than I do anyway...

Sorry for the very complicated and hard to understand BULLSHIT I just wrote.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Jason on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 12:55:19 PM
^this

Everyone in this game have always been trash talking and rude. It's the same in every single game.
For some reason i knew you'd respond to this haha

but yea, it goes both ways - people need to grow up on both ends. The person bad mouthing another needs to grow up. The target getting butt hurt and complaining about it also needs to grow up.  In the end, you're letting the troller win.  I get trash-talked, shit-talked, name called, what ever you want to call it every single time i play this game. And its usually from people i've never seen play before.
I downloaded this game intending to play it...not let these pathetic distractions ruin my life.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Alex on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:13:08 PM
this is the saddest thing ive ever read, ive played AA for 8 years, played on top teams, and always have done this in matches between teams, i guess the game just isnt the same, people complaining about the smallest thing, you wouldnt believe what trash talk has been said ot me in matches nothing compared to what i siad... seriously get over yourselves trash talk is a part of the game, and clearly you dont understand that...
I'm fine with trash talk. You can talk trash all you want in a match. but when you're up 2 players in a match and you're still saying "owned" after you get a kill, it's pathetic, no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: eKC0mm on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:28:27 PM
Lol stop this silly stuff. Everyone is over reacting.

You want to see shit talk? Go play xbox live or ps3. Better yet try playing a pick up game of basketball in the Bronx, NY. It gets much MUCH worse than this.

This topic should be locked because its useless and gets people worked up for no reason.

Ignore stuff that offends you and move on. And don't make a generalization about "pros" after playing with 1 of them.

I have played this game forever. I love the community here. I can pub with nice pubbers and i can compete with competition players, And there all pretty nice guys when you actually talk to them.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: k!cker on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:29:57 PM
Ignore stuff that offends you and move on. And don't make a generalization about "pros" after playing with 1 of them.

+1
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Alex on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:31:52 PM
You want to see shit talk? Go play xbox live or ps3.
Sorry if I expected the AA community to be more mature than the 12 year olds playing CoD on Xbox Live. I guess that was too much to hope for.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: wickid on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:33:43 PM
so many of yous take this game way too serious geez, it's a game

let's just worrie bout gettn rid of the fuck tard kiddie cheaters
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: k!cker on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:39:01 PM
Sorry if I expected the AA community to be more mature than the 12 year olds playing CoD on Xbox Live. I guess that was too much to hope for.

I think you're expecting too much from any game tbh. Just because they were shit talking doesn't mean everyone else does.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:47:24 PM
I talked in general, that SS was just an example, stop trowing blame at that single event. It's everyday the same thing. Last night i had Ak4 Chubbs calling me ignorant because he plays this game for 5 years now and there's no 4x ping rule. Everyone knows you always see your real ping but you need to multiply by 4 the ping of other players, so if you see someone with 20, in reality they have 20x4 = 80. Same for them, you have 100 ping but they see you with 25.

It's this crap everyday, people don't know anything but still start calling names.
Again, i talked in global, not just about that case. I have even seen players joining different teams so they can ghost, people with 2 computers, 1 idle to check for enemys position, players on servers with password killing idles so they can get better stats... I could go on and on.

*edit* I still love the game, just not the players...
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Shakira on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 14:58:52 PM
you've obviously never played basketball or football if you say there is no trash talk in sports, ive been called a honkey bitch, and other shit, it doesnt bother me its part of the game...you clearly dontknow what you talking about when it comes to trash talk. and that screenshot of me was taken when it was a 2v2, we had 3 more people get on mumble when we were going into mission planning.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Alex on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 15:14:27 PM
I think you're expecting too much from any game tbh. Just because they were shit talking doesn't mean everyone else does.
Very true, but instead of condemning immature behavior, people are making excuses for it like it's not a bad thing.

and that screenshot of me was taken when it was a 2v2, we had 3 more people get on mumble when we were going into mission planning.
Yeah, before the match even started. That's not what I'm talking about though. I'm talking about how you said "owned" after every kill when you were up 2 players. Completely pathetic. Especially since we were being as nice as possible to you guys. We joined this tournament to have fun, not to be talked shit to by a player who's team is up 2 players. I was laughing my ass off at how immature you were acting.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 15:15:54 PM
Actually i did, 9 years Basketball and 10 Athleticism. Doesn't help, people only act as kids behind a computer monitor, in real life they are mature.
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Shakira on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 15:16:00 PM
i wouldnt have been an asshole if you werent one in that other post telling me to chill out and calm down and shit...
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Shakira on Thursday, July 12, 2012, 15:17:07 PM
sergio im not talking to you about trash talk in sports, that other kid who says there was none in any sports he played...you obviously know that there is if you played basketball
Title: Re: Disappointment
Post by: Spanky on Friday, July 13, 2012, 03:04:07 AM
summing up the overall behavior of the average player of this "community" and since there's no decent feedback nor a wide enough supporting in every kind of form (even partecipating to the forums that now honestly look awful, i don't want to come back every evening just to read another "possible cheater thread", "ban appeal",  "sound tweaks" thread and so on) i don't really think the game will live on its own for many months ahead, unless a lot of things improves (including players behavior and partecipating, which i hardly believe).

*edit* I still love the game, just not the players...


^^ Truth.