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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: JoNeVaNe on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 12:38:06 PM
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{ATAS}.ATA^ you banned me from your server... Can you tell some reason for that?
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{ATAS}.ATA^ you banned me from your server... Can you tell some reason for that?
1- You acused them of ghosting (they do!)
2- You owned their asses ( a 10 year hold with down syndrom could)
3- they didnt get their ass rape this week.
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Hah..not surprised to see message like this. i talk to ATA john..
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We can't do anything about server bans here. You need to go to their website.
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why do players go to servers like that. this i dont understand...
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We got fooled by team ATAS. We were playing Hospi on HT server but it started lagging like hell and then ATAS member lured us on their server. :D They planned the hole thing!!
Seriously. I can't understand why people accuse without evidence. It doesn't lead anywhere but bring shit among players. It's a frigging fun game and at least I always try to behave well and help others. How the hell we would ever get new players if we just bash each other like hell.
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I use to get kicked all the time on there server. But now we get along much better haven't had no problem.
Lately been seeing a lot of bull shit on some players... ..
I know assist does a lot detecting noob cheats but I know they slipping by your system
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Like said before, if you think somebody is cheating, feel free to PM me, but it's not good for the game to just ban people for suspicions.
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i dont give any bans just for fun! i even watch the player his gamin over 15-20 rounds. i just wanna be sure that his hacking or not. but when i see the player running round over round and killing enemys with 1 shot (RPK) and 100% sure where the enemys are! is that no reason to ban him ?
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i dont give any bans just for fun! i even watch the player his gamin over 15-20 rounds. i just wanna be sure that his hacking or not. but when i see the player running round over round and killing enemys with 1 shot (RPK) and 100% sure where the enemys are! is that no reason to ban him ?
Ok, if I sometimes play very well, it does not mean that I am hacker. I have played this game over ten years so I have some kills to shoot headshots sometimes (With RPK too). And when I rush over heliroof to Ambush side, i allways check all places (who does not?), where enemies can be (helipad, cars, fire escape, loading dock etc....) And answer to your question, it is not reason to ban me, if you just think that I am hacking. Can you please give some proofs, that I am using hacks in this game.
-John_Wayn3
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if so, then for sure yes.
but the better way would be to make a video of it (fraps is good for this, maybe also demorec). then upload the sequences to the ban request part of this forum. the admins will them - if one is really still cheating - for ever out of this game. so all other admins would be happy too.
would be great if you could do this (console, demorec xx)
thanks a lot.
btw: I did play with john_wayne - and I don't think he is cheating. only one more good player.
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u say u play this game over 10 years ok, iplay this game from 1.0 and that means nothing to kill over 20enemys with rpk with first bullet by begin firing (headshot) dosnt matter wich distance. i watched u and thats not normal gameplay! u where just running and right know where the enemys are taked back ur gun before the enemy come through the corner and boooom headshot, everytime headshot! headshot over headshot with rpk ! dosnt matter where u are headshot! ur gameplay is soooo sure , u will say that u do that without any help?
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u say u play this game over 10 years ok, iplay this game from 1.0 and that means nothing to kill over 20enemys with rpk with first bullet by begin firing (headshot) dosnt matter wich distance. i watched u and thats not normal gameplay! u where just running and right know where the enemys are taked back ur gun before the enemy come through the corner and boooom headshot, everytime headshot! headshot over headshot with rpk ! dosnt matter where u are headshot! ur gameplay is soooo sure , u will say that u do that without any help?
Yes, I can do that kinds of things without any helps. If you watch my playing, you saw that i use ironsight, when distance is over 10 meter or something... And why I know where the enemies are, please check my last post.
-John_Wayn3
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Yes, I can do that kinds of things without any helps. If you watch my playing, you saw that i use ironsight, when distance is over 10 meter or something... And why I know where the enemies are, please check my last post.
-John_Wayn3
Ban the hacker, he uses ironsight on RPK ! :D
seriously, this:
We got fooled by team ATAS. We were playing Hospi on HT server but it started lagging like hell and then ATAS member lured us on their server. :D They planned the hole thing!!
Seriously. I can't understand why people accuse without evidence. It doesn't lead anywhere but bring shit among players. It's a frigging fun game and at least I always try to behave well and help others. How the hell we would ever get new players if we just bash each other like hell.
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u say u play this game over 10 years ok, iplay this game from 1.0 and that means nothing to kill over 20enemys with rpk with first bullet by begin firing (headshot) dosnt matter wich distance. i watched u and thats not normal gameplay! u where just running and right know where the enemys are taked back ur gun before the enemy come through the corner and boooom headshot, everytime headshot! headshot over headshot with rpk ! dosnt matter where u are headshot! ur gameplay is soooo sure , u will say that u do that without any help?
You know RPK kills with 2 shots, so it looks like 1 shot sometimes because you die fast.
Furthermore, on hospital many people are on the same spot every round, it is no rocket science to watch the right spot.
I need to see some concrete proof to be honest.
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u want proof ,u will get if punkbuster works better than now:) i know the rpk gun and how to play with it. i just watched hes gaming and for me it wasnt normal gameplay. we can talk over 1000 times here and everybody know there some private hacks for aao and belive me that they use it sometimes!!! what can do the server admins at that point ?watch them how they killing with 1 shot and getting kills like 38-2?^^ sure,not on atas server!!!
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u want proof ,u will get if punkbuster works better than now:) i know the rpk gun and how to play with it. i just watched hes gaming and for me it wasnt normal gameplay. we can talk over 1000 times here and everybody know there some private hacks for aao and belive me that they use it sometimes!!! what can do the server admins at that point ?watch them how they killing with 1 shot and getting kills like 38-2?^^ sure,not on atas server!!!
I actually play against him now and he has some good shots but that does not equal cheating.
And I can guarantee you I know the saw and rpk well, and I did not see anything suspicious.
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If any of you actually had a clue as to how good the Assist anti-cheat is, you wouldn't be accusing people. Just suck it up and face the fact that there are people that play better.
That said, I would do the same as ATAS. I wouldn't want people that are making the game heavily one-sided, there's no fun for either team then. Having a proper challenge is what's fun.
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If any of you actually had a clue as to how good the Assist anti-cheat is, you wouldn't be accusing people. Just suck it up and face the fact that there are people that play better.
That said, I would do the same as ATAS. I wouldn't want people that are making the game heavily one-sided, there's no fun for either team then. Having a proper challenge is what's fun.
I do not agree in the latter, I do not understand how banning a good player would help. I would actually be encouraged to learn from them, and learn from own mistakes. I do not see any reason to ban good players.
What I can agree on is a server for lower skilled players only, that people who are too good are not allowed to join in. However then there's another thing: Where to draw the line? When will somebody be "too good"? Sometimes they can have their good days as well...
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What I can agree on is a server for lower skilled players only, that people who are too good are not allowed to join in. However then there's another thing: Where to draw the line? When will somebody be "too good"? Sometimes they can have their good days as well...
And how do you enforce that? The honor check doesn't mean anything as people can claim honor accounts but haven't played in 5 years.
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I actually play against him now and he has some good shots but that does not equal cheating.
And I can guarantee you I know the saw and rpk well, and I did not see anything suspicious.
i agree john is a good player
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i dont give any bans just for fun! i even watch the player his gamin over 15-20 rounds. i just wanna be sure that his hacking or not. but when i see the player running round over round and killing enemys with 1 shot (RPK) and 100% sure where the enemys are! is that no reason to ban him ?
nothing perosonal ata but i say the samething about ex with his headshots with rpk long distance, but i expect it cause i'm playing on a euro server where pings makes a big difference, his 8 ping against my 40 ping, makes a big differnce
anyhow what only annoys me is spots i go to i get flashed all the dam time, and when i flash that same spot and peeps are not flashed is what brings the questionable game play
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Jeez ATA... so did you watch me also? Im only playing with rpk lol
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Jeez ATA... so did you watch me also? Im only playing with rpk lol
yea boolie the biggest hacker of em all lol
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u guys didnt see the same what i saw yesterday, so pls lets close this topic becoz its gonna really funny! the fact is when im sure some player isnt clean so i leave the server but when im sure some isnt clean on our server so im gonna kick em out!
ps bart: u really think he was playing tonight like yesterday night? u wanna say that i kick some player playing like this???
im gonna record next time so everybody will see!!!
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u guys didnt see the same what i saw yesterday, so pls lets close this topic becoz its gonna really funny! the fact is when im sure some player isnt clean so i leave the server but when im sure some isnt clean on our server so im gonna kick em out!
ps bart: u really think he was playing tonight like yesterday night? u wanna say that i kick some player playing like this???
im gonna record next time so everybody will see!!!
i have played with john for about 4 months or so, yes he has good days and bad days, we all do ata, i've played against him as well, he's a good player, only get better when playing against good players,
post your vids
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so tonight he have bad days and bad moves^^???
lets close it really . got headsick!!!
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so tonight he have bad days and bad moves^^???
lets close it really . got headsick!!!
no just sayn we all have our good days and bad days
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u guys didnt see the same what i saw yesterday, so pls lets close this topic becoz its gonna really funny! the fact is when im sure some player isnt clean so i leave the server but when im sure some isnt clean on our server so im gonna kick em out!
ps bart: u really think he was playing tonight like yesterday night? u wanna say that i kick some player playing like this???
im gonna record next time so everybody will see!!!
He actually played pretty good, gave me some 1shots as well and most of the times he hit me when I shot him.
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what should i say,right nothin^^
dude its ok ,hes out from banlist and everything is kkk. lets wait for ur job incomin 2 mounths^^
hooah
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u guys didnt see the same what i saw yesterday, so pls lets close this topic becoz its gonna really funny! the fact is when im sure some player isnt clean so i leave the server but when im sure some isnt clean on our server so im gonna kick em out!
ps bart: u really think he was playing tonight like yesterday night? u wanna say that i kick some player playing like this???
im gonna record next time so everybody will see!!!
The truth is you get pissed off at some point if someone keeps killing you or the entire ATAS clan.
Even for me you said long time ago i used wallhack in hospital cos i shot through that 'blind or cloak (??) or how's that called.
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And how do you enforce that? The honor check doesn't mean anything as people can claim honor accounts but haven't played in 5 years.
look ad the K/D in battletracker good players can shoot your server empty we have one players that is not welcome , we can t proof he has summthing . but is k/d say sumthing that he is waiting for his change to get a hit. sound looks like the biggest help for alot players enemy run`s time to pop up and hit the runner.
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Kill death ratio doesn't really matter much, if at all. I've seen people with an incredibly high fragrate that are just plain bad at this game. They just sit in a corner and cover their ass and then leave as soon as they they the 2nd time.
In fact, most people (I don't really have the statistics on this, but as far as I've seen, this is true) who get banned for a cheat have a low fragrate. They just get frustrated they're getting killed by players that are just genuinly better than them and then try out a cheat. Then "whoops, I got banned! I didn't know I wasn't allowed to test out this cheat".
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how and who, but it would be intresting to create an elite server for serious high K / D and honor gamers for this game to offer a higher standard to the players . if we have enuf players a day !? not now.
I had a server sum know that, for players that start this game for 0 till 30 honor players so they wouldend killed everytime.
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how and who, but it would be intresting to create an elite server for serious high K / D and honor gamers for this game to offer a higher standard to the players . if we have enuf players a day !? not now.
I had a server sum know that, for players that start this game for 0 till 30 honor players so they wouldend killed everytime.
people with high KD dont fight eachother, cauz it would mean their KD would go down, OMG CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
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people with high KD dont fight eachother, cauz it would mean their KD would go down, OMG CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
That's true.
In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.
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I do not agree in the latter, I do not understand how banning a good player would help. I would actually be encouraged to learn from them, and learn from own mistakes. I do not see any reason to ban good players.
What I can agree on is a server for lower skilled players only, that people who are too good are not allowed to join in. However then there's another thing: Where to draw the line? When will somebody be "too good"? Sometimes they can have their good days as well...
You're almost right Bart :) I agree with all my heart that only playing against/with good/better (mostly against) players will make someone better player, but making servers for new guys is completely wrong. From whom will they learn? It's a wrong way and waste of their and the aao25's time. If the guy is reasonable and knows he won't be a hero in new game in half a month that's good, maybe he will stay, some will leave. This game to be honest is not easy and takes the time, experience counts the most, reasonable thinking (comes with experience, but for most not :D ), aim isn't that important like in other FPS games. Life.
look ad the K/D in battletracker good players can shoot your server empty
You're wrong Vanoke, Teddy and Ganja answered you why. Fragrate is easy to manipulate and the most important, fragrate doesnt play against you, it's some guy over the wire... who makes mistakes, has some habits, is predictable, is not perfect. The best players I've seen on this game had fragrates below 2 or close to it, wow how is it possible :D ;) ?
What makes your servers go empty are uneven teams where these 'very inteligent' guys you're talking about Vanoke go easy way. Usually they join same team, mostly defence (when 203 was taken from hospital its escort, it became way easier outside and inside now... personally I hate 203 on this map for getting cheap kills but disabling them changed the balance way too far in my opinion) and hunt for cheap kills, that's how are they are making their gooooood and fake stats (usually high fr along with low kills per hour) So we come to the situation that there are 3-4 good guys in one team against whole bunch of average guys... and they are getting constantly slaughtered... and those stat heroes don't tend to even teams up so people start to leave... because I guess nobody likes to loose all the time, right? The server goes empty...
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So is Noiiis the best player in AA history cos his sessions are like 60 kills and 2 deaths. In pipeline of course...oh..and in defense of course.
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So is Noiiis the best player in AA history cos his sessions are like 60 kills and 2 deaths. In pipeline of course...oh..and in defense of course.
Noiis is a pretty good sound camper. He doesn't care for objective nor does he care to play on Assault (I've seen it happen once or twice, but no more than 2-3 rounds). Besides, like you said, he's a one map hero really. I don't know of anyone who would say he's the best...
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Noiis is a pretty good sound camper. He doesn't care for objective nor does he care to play on Assault (I've seen it happen once or twice, but no more than 2-3 rounds). Besides, like you said, he's a one map hero really. I don't know of anyone who would say he's the best...
I hope it was pure irony, cauz it's the perfect example how fragrate doesn't mean shit. If you play a match against a player like Noiis you'll see he is stupid and plays like a noobie without his sound, and don't even talk about teamchange after 6 rounds, he'd be lost.
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I hope it was pure irony, cauz it's the perfect example how fragrate doesn't mean shit. If you play a match against a player like Noiis you'll see he is stupid and plays like a noobie without his sound, and don't even talk about teamchange after 6 rounds, he'd be lost.
If you're talking about my post, then it was not irony. I meant what I wrote. Whether or not what I wrote seems to someone as the classification of a "good" player, is up to whoever reads it. To me, it just describes a one map defense hero who's not worth much.
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If you're talking about my post, then it was not irony. I meant what I wrote. Whether or not what I wrote seems to someone as the classification of a "good" player, is up to whoever reads it. To me, it just describes a one map defense hero who's not worth much.
Nope was referring to raw's one. Anyway on topic, server admins have been banning normal players since ... ever and there's not much assist can do to prevent that unfortunately
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Nope was referring to raw's one. Anyway on topic, server admins have been banning normal players since ... ever and there's not much assist can do to prevent that unfortunately
I'm pretty sure raw's was ironic, though.
And there's theoretically stuff we could do, but once someone pays for their server, we don't want to interfere with that for as long as we can.
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In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.
Quote of truth. Juzek is problably one of the top3 CQB players who ever touch this game and his frag is ridiculous to say the least.
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That's true.
In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.
The best players are the players that are used to playing against good players and still come positive about that.
Every bit decent aimer can get a fragrate above 2 if he wants, but if you played matches against the best players, you would see the greater players did not have that amazing fragrate at all, because they joined the hard teams, vs good players, so they had better practice and could learn faster to become better.
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you are all the best for me, honestly ;)
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Not sure is this related, but Ex_i left ATAS clan. Good choice.
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This game is still competitive when you look at the numbers of how many players want to keep their frag at high level ;)