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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 03:25:49 AM »
u guys didnt see the same what i saw yesterday, so pls lets close this topic becoz its gonna really funny! the fact is when im sure some player isnt clean so i leave the server but when im sure some isnt clean on our server so im gonna kick em out!

ps bart: u really think he was playing tonight like yesterday night? u wanna say that i kick some player playing like this???

im gonna record next time so everybody will see!!!

The truth is you get pissed off at some point if someone keeps killing you or the entire ATAS clan.
Even for me you said long time ago i used wallhack in hospital cos i shot through that 'blind or cloak (??) or how's that called.

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 05:09:17 AM »
And how do you enforce that? The honor check doesn't mean anything as people can claim honor accounts but haven't played in 5 years.
  look ad the K/D in battletracker  good players can shoot your server empty we have one players that is not welcome , we can t proof he has summthing . but is k/d say sumthing that he is waiting for his change to get a hit. sound looks like the biggest help for alot players enemy run`s time to pop up and hit the runner.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 05:34:13 AM »
Kill death ratio doesn't really matter much, if at all. I've seen people with an incredibly high fragrate that are just plain bad at this game. They just sit in a corner and cover their ass and then leave as soon as they they the 2nd time.

In fact, most people (I don't really have the statistics on this, but as far as I've seen, this is true) who get banned for a cheat have a low fragrate. They just get frustrated they're getting killed by players that are just genuinly better than them and then try out a cheat. Then "whoops, I got banned! I didn't know I wasn't allowed to test out this cheat".
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 07:07:43 AM »
how and who, but it would be intresting to create an elite server for   serious high K / D and honor gamers  for this game to offer a higher standard to the players .  if we have enuf players a day !? not now.
I had a server sum know that, for players that start this game for 0 till 30 honor players so they wouldend killed everytime.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 07:31:37 AM »
how and who, but it would be intresting to create an elite server for   serious high K / D and honor gamers  for this game to offer a higher standard to the players .  if we have enuf players a day !? not now.
I had a server sum know that, for players that start this game for 0 till 30 honor players so they wouldend killed everytime.

people with high KD dont fight eachother, cauz it would mean their KD would go down, OMG CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 07:43:55 AM »
people with high KD dont fight eachother, cauz it would mean their KD would go down, OMG CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
That's true.

In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 07:56:05 AM »
I do not agree in the latter, I do not understand how banning a good player would help. I would actually be encouraged to learn from them, and learn from own mistakes. I do not see any reason to ban good players.

What I can agree on is a server for lower skilled players only, that people who are too good are not allowed to join in. However then there's another thing: Where to draw the line? When will somebody be "too good"? Sometimes they can have their good days as well...
You're almost right Bart :) I agree with all my heart that only playing against/with good/better (mostly against) players will make someone better player, but making servers for new guys is completely wrong.  From whom will they learn? It's a wrong way and waste of their and the aao25's time. If the guy is reasonable and knows he won't be a hero in new game in half a month that's good, maybe he will stay, some will leave. This game to be honest is not easy and takes the time, experience counts the most, reasonable thinking (comes with experience, but for most not :D ),  aim isn't that important like in other FPS games. Life.

look ad the K/D in battletracker  good players can shoot your server empty

You're wrong Vanoke, Teddy and Ganja answered you why. Fragrate is easy to manipulate and the most important, fragrate doesnt play against you, it's some guy over the wire... who makes mistakes, has some habits, is predictable, is not perfect. The best players I've seen on this game had fragrates below 2 or close to it, wow how is it possible :D ;) ?

What makes your servers go empty are uneven teams where these 'very inteligent' guys you're talking about Vanoke go easy way. Usually they join same team, mostly defence (when 203 was taken from hospital its escort, it became way easier outside and inside now... personally I hate 203 on this map for getting cheap kills but disabling  them changed the balance way too far in my opinion) and hunt for cheap kills, that's how are they are making their gooooood and fake stats (usually high fr along with low kills per hour) So we come to the situation that there are 3-4 good guys in one team against whole bunch of average guys... and they are getting constantly slaughtered... and those stat heroes don't tend to even teams up so people start to leave... because I guess nobody likes to loose all the time, right? The server goes empty...

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 10:41:39 AM »
So is Noiiis the best player in AA history cos his sessions are like 60 kills and 2 deaths. In pipeline of course...oh..and in defense of course.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 10:47:33 AM »
So is Noiiis the best player in AA history cos his sessions are like 60 kills and 2 deaths. In pipeline of course...oh..and in defense of course.

Noiis is a pretty good sound camper. He doesn't care for objective nor does he care to play on Assault (I've seen it happen once or twice, but no more than 2-3 rounds). Besides, like you said, he's a one map hero really. I don't know of anyone who would say he's the best...
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 11:08:04 AM »
Noiis is a pretty good sound camper. He doesn't care for objective nor does he care to play on Assault (I've seen it happen once or twice, but no more than 2-3 rounds). Besides, like you said, he's a one map hero really. I don't know of anyone who would say he's the best...

I hope it was pure irony, cauz it's the perfect example how fragrate doesn't mean shit. If you play a match against a player like Noiis you'll see he is stupid and plays like a noobie without his sound, and don't even talk about teamchange after 6 rounds, he'd be lost.

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 11:25:51 AM »
I hope it was pure irony, cauz it's the perfect example how fragrate doesn't mean shit. If you play a match against a player like Noiis you'll see he is stupid and plays like a noobie without his sound, and don't even talk about teamchange after 6 rounds, he'd be lost.
If you're talking about my post, then it was not irony. I meant what I wrote. Whether or not what I wrote seems to someone as the classification of a "good" player, is up to whoever reads it. To me, it just describes a one map defense hero who's not worth much.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 12:02:28 PM »
If you're talking about my post, then it was not irony. I meant what I wrote. Whether or not what I wrote seems to someone as the classification of a "good" player, is up to whoever reads it. To me, it just describes a one map defense hero who's not worth much.

Nope was referring to raw's one. Anyway on topic, server admins have been banning normal players since ... ever and there's not much assist can do to prevent that unfortunately

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 12:12:44 PM »
Nope was referring to raw's one. Anyway on topic, server admins have been banning normal players since ... ever and there's not much assist can do to prevent that unfortunately
I'm pretty sure raw's was ironic, though.

And there's theoretically stuff we could do, but once someone pays for their server, we don't want to interfere with that for as long as we can.
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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 13:12:20 PM »
In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.

Quote of truth. Juzek is problably one of the top3 CQB players who ever touch this game and his frag is ridiculous to say the least.

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Re: Banned from ATAS server
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 01:50:37 AM »
That's true.

In fact some of the best people who ever played this game had average K/D ratios simply because they played against enemies that were on roughly the same level.
The best players are the players that are used to playing against good players and still come positive about that.
Every bit decent aimer can get a fragrate above 2 if he wants, but if you played matches against the best players, you would see the greater players did not have that amazing fragrate at all, because they joined the hard teams, vs good players, so they had better practice and could learn faster to become better.

 

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