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Title: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 17:36:28 PM
I tried to join our server for the first time as admin, and I've been banned by assist for 24 hours.

It's probably because I put password in aa25.ini (adminpassword=) without putting my nick in it (playeradmin=).

I would appreciate quick help. I didn't need admin login up to now, but some mofos have been ruining our game now, by teamkilling everybody for 15 minutes straight.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: BlueBlaster on Monday, March 05, 2012, 17:56:56 PM
I'm assuming you have access to the server. Did you delete banlist.txt?
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:00:33 PM
Great, thanks, I did not know those bans are handled locally, I thought they are kept by master server.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:03:03 PM
Hmm, but it seems that restarting server is required (just changing the file does not work), and that's what I want to avoid (server full of people now).
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: BlueBlaster on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:05:43 PM
Shoot, I think you were supposed to remove the bans from the text file instead of deleting the actual thing. My fault, I never run servers and I forget this kind of information.


BTW all bans are handled locally. If it says your banned, it's just from that server. Until me or someone on the team looks at the elevated PB alerts log that gets streamed to the master server, we then decide who gets banned from the auth system.



If someone is giving you some trouble on the server, just designate someone as admin (player admin, spectator admin, or whatever) and have them go kick the guy out. You can remove their admin privileges afterwards.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:10:29 PM
Shoot, I think you were supposed to remove the bans from the text file instead of deleting the actual thing. My fault, I never run servers and I forget this kind of information.

I did both, first removed the line, then removed whole file.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: BlueBlaster on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:13:02 PM
I did some searching, you do have to restart the server if your editing the file, there's no other way around it. Le sigh.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:16:14 PM
Thx anyway for fast reply. I think I have to create another BT account now :-D.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:25:39 PM
Oh, stupid me, the BT accout has to be linked with AA account name anyway, and i'm not sure how to create this one.

And the ban is on IP (which I have static)... So no playing for me today :-(
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: BlueBlaster on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:30:56 PM
Ahhhh sadface :(
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, March 05, 2012, 18:34:56 PM
But I'm happy anyway, cause the server is full (26 slots), just like in the good old times :-D.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Jonnym on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 02:26:46 AM
when you join the server as an admin you must do it through assist and not using the in-game menu.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 02:28:19 AM
That's how i did it.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Jonnym on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 02:31:02 AM
Hmmm, i might have broken something.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 06:19:50 AM
And does the PB power system (assigning rights for e.g. kick to people) work in assist setup?
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Jonnym on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 07:04:53 AM
No PB still works off the GUID which no longer exists.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 09:22:37 AM
Some more related questions:

- Is there a way to have kick rights, but not have this [Admin] tag in the chat? That's what I liked in the pb_power functionality: the admins could do their job without "showing off" their "power".

- Does the webtool still work?

- Does the pburcon (UDP based interface to PB server) still work?
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Jonnym on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 09:26:48 AM
It all still works but it uses GUIDs to remove or ban people from the game so it is useless.
The spectator admin function is hidden and on one in the server knows your there, I will fix it soon.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 12:27:24 PM
One feature would be useful then: option to disable this '[Admin]' tag in chat for player admins. It makes the impression of putting those players above others, and I don't like it. I can't code it myself, since it involves auth.u (I'm not sure, I just quickly guess).

EDIT: hmm, I just thought that maybe those chat tags '[Admin/Enemy/Army]' are put by the game itself, so you don't have easy way to change it from auth.u.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
It makes the impression of putting those players above others

This is a fantastic part of AA :)
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:09:28 PM
:-D

Ok, but thats cosmetic feature. Much more important would be this: option for giving a player right to kick, without all the admin options. That was really useful feature of pb_power. You could give people rights so that they help you keep order in server, but at the same time you don't risk they mess it up.

What do you think Jon? Could you do it, could I help in some way?
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:11:06 PM
It would be great to have users be able to votekick and vote for map change. I think I have a map voter mod around here somewhere...
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Jonnym on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:18:18 PM
There doesn't seem to be an easy way of doing that, Votekick is the best option.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:26:13 PM
So there is no other way to kick other than being admin/PA and using admin commands?
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:31:26 PM
So there is no other way to kick other than being admin/PA and using admin commands?

Punkbuster power points, unless you already meant about them above. Basically you're given a defined amount of PB points that let you performed well defined actions, as kicking a player, banning, etc. . And obviously the player having such points doesn't need to be an admin.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:34:38 PM
In particular, is there some way to kick from the external script? In 2.8 I wrote some python scripts that monitored game chat logs, and reacted to e.g. 'kick <nick>' commands from priviledged players, by issuing pb_sv_kick through pbrcon. I'd love to be able to do something like this in 2.5.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 13:35:52 PM
Punkbuster power points, unless you already meant about them above. Basically you're given a defined amount of PB points that let you performed well defined actions, as kicking a player, banning, etc. . And obviously the player having such points doesn't need to be an admin.

Hmm, so you mean that pb_power mechanism should still work? That's in contrary to what Jon said. I will try it anyway.

EDIT: ok, some points are assigned to players by default, but assigning special points is through guid, so it probably wont work.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: BlueBlaster on Tuesday, March 06, 2012, 18:17:57 PM
Yesterday, me, killa, mans, jared, and grizz from GOW were fooling around with pb_power. It's still there, but we didn't test if you could kick anyone. You can type pb_power to get the list of players and their points. And you can still use pb_kick number to add points to kick a person. But we didn't check if anyone was able to be kicked.
Title: Re: ban for admin login attempt
Post by: pit-23 on Wednesday, March 07, 2012, 11:23:18 AM
The spectator admin function is hidden and on one in the server knows your there, I will fix it soon.

Please let me know when it's ready.