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Title: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 16:52:24 PM

I think it would be a good idea to have more servers provided by assist itself (if there's money to pay for them).

Like I mentioned earlier, there are way too many nazi-admins looking for power. They know that, if they ban you from their server, and the server is one of the few that is populated, you will be screwed.

It's true, they pay for servers, so they decide who can play or not BUT they shouldn't have the ability to choose who plays the game or not. I don't know what could be done about this, maybe sending a warning to some admins/servers ...

An clear example. Joined PE server today on hospital. Since few days, 50% of the hospital servers have rules like 'don't spam 203 first 20-30 seconds, so before starting the round, I let the rules scroll, and it says 'NO SPAMRULES'. Round starts, I spam and guess what I get kicked.

Apparently admin said 10 rounds ago that there was no early spam ... ok ...

This ain't an example of nazi-admin , this is an example of stupid admins, who can't behave like such, so they shouldn't be given the ability to stop you from playing.

So in my opinion, people should be designed by the community to be admin on assist servers. And the community should go by themselves on those servers.

This is probably not gonna happen, just wanted to share my frustration
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: alechko1 on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 17:14:07 PM
I'll tell you what Iusually do. I find an empty server with good ping and with a map I wanna play. I wait for several minutes, 2-3 players join, and in no time we have a full server without any stupid admins and etc.
Btw, if you like pipe, you can try to go to NoG server, they are great admins, never seen a kick or warning or anything
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: noobslayer on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 17:23:22 PM
Go to IGC servers, wait wut.....
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 17:36:32 PM
I agree with adi, regardless what people say about igc as a clan, its a great server and I got to know some cool people there
Least there not kick/ban happy like a server I use to play on
I always hated playing in servers with rules, so gay
I'm going to start a server soon , you'll be more then welcome to admin mine ganja
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: JunK on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 19:08:59 PM
I think it would be a good idea to have more servers provided by assist itself (if there's money to pay for them).

Like I mentioned earlier, there are way too many nazi-admins looking for power. They know that, if they ban you from their server, and the server is one of the few that is populated, you will be screwed.

It's true, they pay for servers, so they decide who can play or not BUT they shouldn't have the ability to choose who plays the game or not. I don't know what could be done about this, maybe sending a warning to some admins/servers ...

An clear example. Joined PE server today on hospital. Since few days, 50% of the hospital servers have rules like 'don't spam 203 first 20-30 seconds, so before starting the round, I let the rules scroll, and it says 'NO SPAMRULES'. Round starts, I spam and guess what I get kicked.

Apparently admin said 10 rounds ago that there was no early spam ... ok ...

This ain't an example of nazi-admin , this is an example of stupid admins, who can't behave like such, so they shouldn't be given the ability to stop you from playing.

So in my opinion, people should be designed by the community to be admin on assist servers. And the community should go by themselves on those servers.

This is probably not gonna happen, just wanted to share my frustration

Ganja, i think the problems with stupid admins and there serverrules, can be fixed if you join the  teamspeak of the clan and talk about what happend or posting something on the forum of that clan.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 19:17:30 PM
Ganja, i think the problems with stupid admins and there serverrules, can be fixed if you join the  teamspeak of the clan and talk about what happend or posting something on the forum of that clan.

maybe he didn't wanna join your ts, i sure the hell wouldn't if some 1 just booted me lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 19:36:43 PM
Well I just doubted Gruby would be on ts. Never saw him there. It's not the first time he's being kick-happy. I will send u pm sometime, now it's holiday time, cya in 1 week
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 20:03:26 PM
Today had a nice example also on HT server

ATAS yakamoz was nursecamping again and again and again.... and after the i dunno how many warning he got kicked by admin.
Than he rejoined, and said: ALL HT NOT WELCOME ON ATAS SERVER FROM NOW

Well we ignored him.
But he was showing his true colours that sad kiddo
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 20:17:27 PM
Today had a nice example also on HT server

ATAS yakamoz was nursecamping again and again and again.... and after the i dunno how many warning he got kicked by admin.
Than he rejoined, and said: ALL HT NOT WELCOME ON ATAS SERVER FROM NOW

Well we ignored him.
But he was showing his true colours that sad kiddo

It happens to everyone, even HT dude. On PE server, a random guy wasn't aware of the spamrule either (there's no way for people to know if they just come in) so he spams and kills HT General Alkos. Same reaction there, alkos says, not welcome on HT server ... such a war between admins, it's ridiculous
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Dav3 on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 20:28:06 PM
The ones that blow me away are the ridiculous delusional religious clans! Generally resulting is stupid retarded rules like " no swearing" rules.

The game as a fucking language filter built in. If you dont want to see swears, maybe you shouldnt have disabled the filter considering it is ON by default. Bunch of retards.
All of that on top of this being a fucking FPS game, you are killing people left right and center, the worlds gona end if people cuss.


Ultimately rules like that DO make sense - Spamming 203's on hosp is a huge advantage and its a poorly designed map to have allowed that to be possible. - and you broke the server rule. If you have an issue or claim you didnt see the rule...then go complain on their ts or forums and say sorry i didnt see the rule. Easy as that.



There are "rules" that make sense and rules that dont. And certainly too many power happy kids with admin rights. They have no power or authority in real life so it goes to their head.


It simply eats at the clans reputation and so be it. IF a clan allows stupid admins and stupid rules not much you can do other than go to a diff server or get your own. And post about it and spread the word that they are a bunch of tools.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 21:02:48 PM
It happens to everyone, even HT dude. On PE server, a random guy wasn't aware of the spamrule either (there's no way for people to know if they just come in) so he spams and kills HT General Alkos. Same reaction there, alkos says, not welcome on HT server ... such a war between admins, it's ridiculous

Alkos speaking english? Thats rare!

And alkos doesnt even know how to ban, he is on the forum asking to swap the server from map... he has no idea lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 21:03:19 PM
One idea;

If you guys want open 'community' style servers where admins come from a mature background and various clans then maybe it would be a good idea to have Smoke setup the official AAO25 Assist servers again (they went down a while back for some server reason, AAO25.com went down at the same time). I'm sure as long as it's good advertising for Low Ping Servers then he'd work something out. He was running 3 for us at the time, very good ping in datacenters in the US.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Yahoo on Thursday, October 24, 2013, 22:44:21 PM
I would be gladly head server admin, i'm pretty passionate about AA and i'll be pretty staunch...
   
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Mike Mentzer on Friday, October 25, 2013, 04:43:33 AM
One idea;

If you guys want open 'community' style servers where admins come from a mature background and various clans then maybe it would be a good idea to have Smoke setup the official AAO25 Assist servers again (they went down a while back for some server reason, AAO25.com went down at the same time). I'm sure as long as it's good advertising for Low Ping Servers then he'd work something out. He was running 3 for us at the time, very good ping in datacenters in the US.

@ ganja have fun on us servers where volunteer live admin with nolife are up for you 7/24 online. you have to live like a vampire to find some players at prime time.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, October 25, 2013, 06:27:52 AM
don't play anymore on such servers. there are a lot others out there as you know. no need to spend money for leased servers by aao25. should be given away for better reasons. thats all about i will say.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: noobslayer on Friday, October 25, 2013, 06:40:56 AM
I agree with adi, regardless what people say about igc as a clan, its a great server and I got to know some cool people there
Least there not kick/ban happy like a server I use to play on
I always hated playing in servers with rules, so gay
I'm going to start a server soon , you'll be more then welcome to admin mine ganja

I am not adi
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, October 25, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
Ultimately rules like that DO make sense - Spamming 203's on hosp is a huge advantage and its a poorly designed map to have allowed that to be possible. - and you broke the server rule. If you have an issue or claim you didnt see the rule...then go complain on their ts or forums and say sorry i didnt see the rule. Easy as that.
If you take the time to read what ganja wrote, you'd see he was looking for the rule about no early 203s, but the console said that there are no rules about it. However, the admin had said "no early nades" a few rounds ago to everyone who was there, but since he just joined, there's no way he could have seen that.

But I do agree that some rules like that make sense. Especially considering the realism aspect that this game was originally built on. If it's your first time in an area, you wouldn't know the exact time someone will be at west wing door (or where ever else) before you saw him. I mean sure, you have information about the area (map) and the enemy, but it will never be this precise.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Koden on Friday, October 25, 2013, 13:24:07 PM

Ultimately rules like that DO make sense - Spamming 203's on hosp is a huge advantage and its a poorly designed map to have allowed that to be possible. - and you broke the server rule. If you have an issue or claim you didnt see the rule...then go complain on their ts or forums and say sorry i didnt see the rule. Easy as that.


There are "rules" that make sense and rules that dont. And certainly too many power happy kids with admin rights. They have no power or authority in real life so it goes to their head.

It simply eats at the clans reputation and so be it. IF a clan allows stupid admins and stupid rules not much you can do other than go to a diff server or get your own. And post about it and spread the word that they are a bunch of tools.

SF Hospital isn't poorly designed, it's just the equipment setting that isn't really coherent, in the end. I think the original choice developers made was to take nades off of the equipment for a good reason (that's an hospital, engagement rules wouldn't allow you to use those in such an area), but 203's are still available, and they can be used both outside and inside, so there's no real respect for rules of engagement (aside of the spam abuse itself).

About admins, just meh. I think it just shows the average players we got to play with these days. I'd rather see a few official servers administered by more mature people indeed, than plenty of those clan servers. It would be a lot easier for server updating and management too (rather than having dozens of different clans servers that behaves in every different way possible).
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, October 25, 2013, 16:30:23 PM
I am not adi

Lol I don't know why I keep calling u adi lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Friday, October 25, 2013, 17:14:07 PM
Lol I don't know why I keep calling u adi lol

I know a answer, may I?  ;)
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Friday, October 25, 2013, 17:16:30 PM
I don't see any connection, specially that the Adi is gipsy, and noobslayer is not...
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: noobslayer on Friday, October 25, 2013, 17:33:10 PM
I know a answer, may I?  ;)

admission given
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, October 25, 2013, 20:01:53 PM
I know a answer, may I?  ;)

Please do,  enlighten me lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Friday, October 25, 2013, 20:04:28 PM
Please do,  enlighten me lol

Cause ur stupid!
duhhhhhhhhh

 :P
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: world- on Friday, October 25, 2013, 20:15:43 PM
Did any of you know that when hospital came out it had RPG's? that was some crazy shit right there. lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Friday, October 25, 2013, 21:30:25 PM
Did any of you know that when hospital came out it had RPG's? that was some crazy shit right there. lol

yea was cool when they had rpg's talk about roe fest

should bring that back in
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Friday, October 25, 2013, 21:32:11 PM
Did any of you know that when hospital came out it had RPG's? that was some crazy shit right there. lol

My roe record: 4800 thanks to that rpg lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 00:21:09 AM
My roe record: 4800 thanks to that rpg lol

shit i have u beat over 100,000 in roe
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 02:23:18 AM
Did any of you know that when hospital came out it had RPG's? that was some crazy shit right there. lol
I liked that, they removed nades on hospital because of the ROE, but here, have an rpg and a 203 :D
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 03:04:54 AM
I liked that, they removed nades on hospital because of the ROE, but here, have an rpg and a 203 :D

it would be bad ass if that was brought back in lol
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 06:03:16 AM
Admins should only be chosen by the community or by the admins of the assist. People who abuse the powers they are given, they abuse the the system as well that proves at this point that this game has a big average of immature kids who play the game. I understand you pay for the server and you have right to do anything but it's not right to abuse the powers they are given and make more people leave the game. I don't understand, are you guys just ignoring this or actually going to take some action towards the clans and the servers? I agree, I would support fully if the servers were only running by the assist or make sure the prices go up for people to host servers. Make sure the owner of the server knows that he should chose admins wisely and appropriate, currently for now it's the main problem in the game itself than trying to update something new..
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 06:05:03 AM
Admins should only be chosen by the community or by the admins of the assist. People who abuse the powers they are given, they abuse the the system as well that proves at this point that this game has a big average of immature kids who play the game. I understand you pay for the server and you have right to do anything but it's not right to abuse the powers they are given and make more people leave the game. I don't understand, are you guys just ignoring this or actually going to take some action towards the clans and the servers? I agree, I would support fully if the servers were only running by the assist or make sure the prices go up for people to host servers. Make sure the owner of the server knows that he should chose admins wisely and appropriate, currently for now it's main problem in the game itself than trying to update something new..

Well, it's not utopia. In so small game community as this one, head admins are the best idea. 3/4 choosen people hanging 4/5 Assist official servers with same rules.
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: bollie on Saturday, October 26, 2013, 06:25:31 AM
shit i have u beat over 100,000 in roe

Euh? Than there was no ROE kick or what?
Cause I tked a few in one and went to jail  :cool:
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 07:29:37 AM
Another cool story.

I was on hospital server, with PE vertigo. The guy is angry for some reason, he keeps trying to pb_kick someone with his polish friends. The poor dude had done nothing wrong, and kept coming back, but then Vertigo started tk the guy. I asked if he could stop pb_kicking and he ignored me. I send him a pb_kick (only me so he doesn't get kicked or whatever) and than he says 'ok ganja, try to join PE server'. 1 week later (today) I join PE server and that kid banned me ...

perfect example of abusive admins. With such a smal comunity, banning people for no reason is really smart.
And by the way if you join PE server on hospital the welcome message says :

'NO NADE RULES, NO EARLY SPAM'

Ok, admins must be so smart on this clan
Title: Re: Assist servers + mature admins
Post by: WORLDCHANCELLOR on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 08:43:51 AM
Another cool story.

I was on hospital server, with PE vertigo. The guy is angry for some reason, he keeps trying to pb_kick someone with his polish friends. The poor dude had done nothing wrong, and kept coming back, but then Vertigo started tk the guy. I asked if he could stop pb_kicking and he ignored me. I send him a pb_kick (only me so he doesn't get kicked or whatever) and than he says 'ok ganja, try to join PE server'. 1 week later (today) I join PE server and that kid banned me ...

perfect example of abusive admins. With such a smal comunity, banning people for no reason is really smart.
And by the way if you join PE server on hospital the welcome message says :

'NO NADE RULES, NO EARLY SPAM'

Ok, admins must be so smart on this clan

lol, the Vertigo guy is funny and, yes, abusive. As you know, I'm American, so I rarely play on EU servers. But sometimes, I'll go on an EU server (I used to go on the PE server quite a bit). The first time I encountered Vertigo, he was SUPER pissed because I was destroying him and his team from West, Under West, and around West altogether. He called me a camper, but the kicker is -- he and his team rushed West EVERY round, and I usually killed them right away. So I guess he wants to be able to freely run through West without contention.

But ya, he banned me for a short period of time. Then, a couple days later, I went back on there and I was not banned anymore. I subtly sucked up to him so that I wouldn't get banned anymore because, at that particular time, it was the only server running that early in the morning. Oh yeah -- and I made sure I was on his team. hahahaha --- But I've since stopped going there altogether. *sigh*


Edit: This was on Urban Assault, btw. And he called me all sorts of names. haha -- He should've just done what most others do: call me a hacker and go from there.