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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: lukinhas on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 12:04:55 PM

Title: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: lukinhas on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
What could be done, to bring the player back to AA2? before ending version 2.8.5, servers lived crowded every day .. Once released their assistance, gave a low of 70% in the Players,
what could be done to bring them back? Version 2.8.5 could not Back?
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: noobslayer on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 12:10:47 PM
AA2 is dead and you won't get it back alive. Looks like everyone is playing gta V. New games are only getting better, so there's no way that AA2 will have lots of players
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
I believe people are moving on after what happen, I don't think aa2 is dead just yet, but surely lost players
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: noobslayer on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
I believe people are moving on after what happen, I don't think aa2 is dead just yet, but surely lost players

68 players ingame on this time, not dead...... ?:mad:

btw do people really think I give a fuck if I get - internetz  :up: :P
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 14:06:08 PM
68 players ingame on this time, not dead...... ?:mad:

btw do people really think I give a fuck if I get - internetz  :up: :P

Lol
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 16:43:00 PM
70 players is enough to have at least 3 full servers. If only the maps played wouldn't always be the same ...
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: dtruesdale on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 19:47:35 PM
70 players is enough to have at least 3 full servers. If only the maps played wouldn't always be the same ...

Need Map rotation working.....with Query port not getting dumped every so often.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: FilteredName1488911 on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 20:58:23 PM
I believe people are moving on after what happen, I don't think aa2 is dead just yet, but surely lost players

Why they are leaving? I thought this very cool SAI feature will bring more players...
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Possessed on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 21:09:09 PM
Why they are leaving? I thought this very cool SAI feature will bring more players...
because some retard polack was ruining their gaming expirience.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: CheeseyTron on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 22:32:40 PM
because some retard polack was ruining their gaming expirience.

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Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: KARI-30 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 04:33:51 AM
AA2 is not dead. When I still see players on the server, the game is alive. When there will be 0 players online, then I can say the game is dead. Same like players said the game is dead back in 2008 when there were 300 players online. Not a long time back we had 200+ online. Not bad after the game was suppose to be dead for 5 years.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
Now there are as many players on 2.5 as on 3, so let's wait till the guys playing PG get bored of the fast gameplay, hear about this here, and come back :)
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: FilteredName1488911 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 09:10:07 AM
because some retard polack was ruining their gaming expirience.

So the guy who coded trojan and then shut the auth down was polish??? I thought he was brit. I'm confused now...
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: woopty on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:24:49 PM
Lets not talk about what happened as i think we all heard enough... Lets just move forward an try to get it populated again. I agree with ganja !!!! they will get bored with fast gameplay and come back,,, just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: NoBigDeal on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:43:14 PM
So the guy who coded trojan and then shut the auth down was polish??? I thought he was brit. I'm confused now...
Where is the difference..?

AA2 is not dead. When I still see players on the server, the game is alive. When there will be 0 players online, then I can say the game is dead...
No, isn't - this is the "agony" ...

I believe people are moving on after what happen...
What happened was wrong but this has nothing to do with it. It's because of 'evolution' - gaming evolution...

...they will get bored with fast gameplay and come back,,, just a matter of time.
Don't think so...

What could be done, to bring the player back to AA2?
Only one thing: a brand new engine...
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Yahoo on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:44:02 PM
they will get bored with fast gameplay and come back,,, just a matter of time.

I doubt about that, since PG is still a beta version (no lean, lack of weapons, no door action, plenty of bugs...) if they manage to get some of the old maps in action like MM, IC, Pipe,... the game will be great, shame the resources to play the game are huge, perhaps they change it in the final version. They game has some great potential, anyway it's my first impression. 
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:49:45 PM
Only one thing: a brand new engine...

What would that accomplish? The gameplay dynamics would be different, it'd be hard finding enough developers to devote to the game for free and it would take quite a while.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: NoBigDeal on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 16:36:43 PM
What would that accomplish? The gameplay dynamics would be different...
It's just an engine like any others - mostly when it comes to Unreal Engine. Greatest in the UE is backwards compatibility - basically, you can rewrite i.e. AA3 to behave like AA2.5 - or port AA2.5 directly to the new engine with only minor changes to the code.

...it'd be hard finding enough developers to devote to the game for free and it would take quite a while.
+/- 1 year for:
- rewriting AA3 - strong team of min 3 coders. In this case you will lose support for Linux.
- new engine - First you need to find one, then as above plus animation team. There was only one leaked UE3 with Linux support, but it will be difficult to get it - people won't share...


Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 17:40:40 PM
I know what a new engine would mean but I'm asking you what it would accomplish for this game. The entire thing would have to be redone from the ground up and then anything resembling America's Army would have to be stripped as that's a much larger step towards copyright infringement than where we currently are now.

Those that are good with creating content either have jobs in the field and have very little if no time for FREE work or they are on other games. The big modding community for UT exists because they like that game. They don't come here because this is a serious game with core values that shouldn't be disrupted.

Even if we overcome the monstrous hurdles of finding a new free engine, finding developers willing to work for free, and then can collaborate everything together, there still remains 1 problem:
If the AA devs couldn't rebuild the game (AA3, AA:PG) and keep the core AA2 players, what chance do we have? The gameplay would be different.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: alechko1 on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 19:18:21 PM
AA2 devs weren't the same devs as AA3/AA4. Thus the problem wasn't that they couldn't duplicate AA2 gameplay, it's just they weren't trying to. They wanted to create a new game that will be mainstream like BF and COD while hoping to have more players.
So I don't really think that game play couldn't be preserved. But all the rest of your arguments are legit
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: NoBigDeal on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 20:04:02 PM
...what it would accomplish for this game...
In these days, the image quality is what people like. In this case AA3 is not too bad - only gameplay sucks. Imagine AA3 with AA2.5 gameplay... Rewriting AA3 will be much easier than to move the entire AA2.5 to the new engine (where I'll suggest to use AA3 content any way...).
Biggest problem of this community is Linux support, if not, UDK is free - as long as you don't make money you don't need to worry about copyright. Eliz already has proved, that porting AA3 (maps) to UDK can be done very easily thanks to the large similarity.

The entire thing would have to be redone from the ground up
Not really...

Those that are good with creating content either have jobs in the field and have very little if no time for FREE work or they are on other games.
Better ad should do the job in finding the right people.

The big modding community for UT exists because they like that game.
...because of flexibility of the gameplay and engine accessibility - here, this is not the case.

If the AA devs couldn't rebuild the game (AA3, AA:PG) and keep the core AA2 players, what chance do we have? The gameplay would be different.
True, but I think it would be worthwhile to try.
Title: Re: Assist 2.5 ( Americas Army 2.8.5 )
Post by: Possessed on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 20:06:20 PM
UE 2.5 > UE 3 :P
AA 2.5 > Other UE 2/2.5 games.