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America's Army => General Chat => Topic started by: Vanoke on Monday, November 02, 2015, 17:38:54 PM
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If they banned you guy`s than what do you want assist must do .
It looks like you guys what the same for Ba^La members , so what makes the diffrent. :banned:
Its ther choice , ther server, ther rules.
You guys can handle this , play the game on your server and do not :duh: bump your heads everytime on ther choice. :shock:
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Should shut down ba server teach them a lesson
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If they banned you guy`s than what do you want assist must do .
It looks like you guys what the same for Ba^La members , so what makes the diffrent. :banned:
Its ther choice , ther server, ther rules.
You guys can handle this , play the game on your server and do not :duh: bump your heads everytime on ther choice. :shock:
Basically you're right, their server - their rules. They have paid for it so they are allowed to do with server what ever they want. BUT when they choose to install a multiplayer game such as Americas Army, get it working with Application - that connects people - such as Assist, and to get the server track some statistics with tool such as Battletracker they must follow certain rules. Actions like these, banning 26 players with no reason, are killing the game.
No one can take a server - or rights to administrate a server away from someone. They have paid for the server, so they must be able to use it. No big deal, that's what they're paying for. But they are not paying for Assist, or Battletracker tracking tool. From this kind of actions, or similar abuse like we have faced in europe could tracking function be disabled for certain time imo.
Now there are two servers and two big clans in Brazil, both clans are able to play together in FEC server, but on Ba^La server all of FEC are banned just because Executor left Ba^La clan. Its easy for us to tell them to join other servers because we have more servers here from where to choose. We have service providers from whom we are able to rent more servers if needed, there in Brazil or in South America generally might not be the same situation that we have here with service providers.
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Ty Ron for expanding to 3 paragraphs what I actually said in 2 sentences ;-D.
I was writing that one before you were even at forum :)
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Its something between FEC and Ba^La that simple, Looks like its in the private sphere.
So this game has nothing to do with it anymore.
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Its something between FEC and Ba^La that simple, Looks like its in the private sphere.
So this game has nothing to do with it anymore.
But if people leave the game because of this, ofcourse it's a problem for the game
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You run something like 15 servers in europe so you just can't see the forest for the trees. It's about how serveradmins are allowed to run their servers, not only this case here ( where it's personal between two guys only who have discussed about the issue and can't solve it because only one of them was willing to achieve something. The rest 25 others are simply suffering from this as totally innocent players )
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Well maybe other servers should treat the ba clan as there treating the FEC clan, I see lots coming on ours
Yes 2 wrongs don't make it right but just maybe they can learn from it
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But if people leave the game because of this, ofcourse it's a problem for the game
Ganja, 6 of my players already left the game last month because they are banned !
In Brazil the ''Most Active Time'' of the game is between 18:00 and 22:00. They situation is that when we start playing first and our server is with more players, they come, join us, play and have fun. But if the situation is the opposite, if we have four =]FEC[= players and them server is with 12..13..16...We can't play there...It's done for us...We need to stay playing pipeline with 4 players in Main like retards ! hahahaha !
The point is that they are using this strategy for a lot of months...The problem is not me, as the player Executor...They are banning players telling that everyone is a hacker because, with all the respect for them, they are ''Limited Players''. If you understand. :)
In the last 2 months they tried to make us quit unbanning all the banned players to play there and make our server be always empty...Doing that, we would quit, shutdown our server, as we are already banned there we would left the game and only clan Ba^La would have a server in South America...They did this with Clan [i}], c.K, PF-Tche, FOB...Clans with more then 10 years of history in AA 2 ! This is not fair guys !
I don't know how, but i already have 26 Members playing and they are not playing more because of this Bans !
We, as a clan are financially structuring ourselves to start donating to the costs to the servers from next months because we now that is not easy to keep it.
Don't let this situation like this, i tried to solve it friendly, but they are not going to do ANYTHING if THE GAME Admins take a position !
Not a long time ago, the same situation occurred here with the same problem between ..Ba^La.. and {M.A.B}...the same problem, same person ..Ba^La..Marreco^, same history...You guys took an action and removed for a short period of time both servers.
Half of the clan {M.ABA} left the game and half had to go to AAPG....
Don't let the same shit happen again just because of a person !
Thanks,
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The ban appeals section on AAO25 is for Assist bans only. There was no need to spam our forums with ban appeals when we didn't ban you. You should have just created one topic (like this one) and all posted there. I'm going to deleted all of the ban appeal threads. Have the people that made them post in this topic.
Anyone know who the clan leader of bala is? If I have any time I'll see if it's possible to talk to them. We'll see what they say and we'll just go from there.
EDIT: This might be harder than I though. Just joined their server with 4 of them in there and asked who the clan leader was and they just ignored me. Either that or none of them understand English, I suppose that's possible. Do they have a website?
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The ban appeals section on AAO25 is for Assist bans only. There was no need to spam our forums with ban appeals when we didn't ban you. You should have just created one topic (like this one) and all posted there. I'm going to deleted all of the ban appeal threads. Have the people that made them post in this topic.
Anyone know who the clan leader of bala is? If I have any time I'll see if it's possible to talk to them. We'll see what they say and we'll just go from there.
EDIT: This might be harder than I though. Just joined their server with 4 of them in there and asked who the clan leader was and they just ignored me. Either that or none of them understand English, I suppose that's possible. Do they have a website?
They know who you are Killa, i told them when i was there...they ignored specially because im sure you have staff credentials !
The "leader" there, the one responsible for the Bans is ..Ba^La..Marreco..^
They don't have a website, if anyone wants to appeal for a ban, needs to go in his TS.
clanbala.ts3gt.com
If i can help you with anything, just let me know. We don't want more problems, just enjoy the game.
I tought each player had to create one topic...we were ready to put 26 posts here...My Bad ! :-D
I'll be online tomorrow all day long at my TS and just let me know if i can help.
clanfec.ts3dns.com
Thanks !
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Wrong topic / thread or not, at least now we see the whole picture and something must be done to it. How about creating a small client update and in order to download the update you must read through and accept the updated TOS which would include a few added lines of server abuse and its consequences?
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Wrong topic / thread or not, at least now we see the whole picture and something must be done to it. How about creating a small client update and in order to download the update you must read through and accept the updated TOS which would include a few added lines of server abuse and its consequences?
I'm willing to bet most of them don't understand English well enough to read through it and those who do will not care enough to read it.
The TOS is already there, but I can guarantee most people will have not read it. There is no way of guaranteeing that someone reads the TOS.
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I'm willing to bet most of them don't understand English well enough to read through it and those who do will not care enough to read it.
The TOS is already there, but I can guarantee most people will have not read it. There is no way of guaranteeing that someone reads the TOS.
That's true, no one reads them. But while taking actions over situations you have something where to point at. Of course this situation would need to be discussed through, but for similar cases you can simply say if you have read what the TOS says about this, you'd know that we're allowed to blacklist your server for certain time ( for example ).
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From prior experience with their clan, when I was in 82nd, there is a few that understand english at least well enough to tell you off or tell you what's on their mind.
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guys, maybe its time for making a "stay together". why do we not jump on the =]FEC[= server until its filled up with other players from brazil? just as a sign?
should work, almost sure. just tell the time you like to have us there and at least i will join ..
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Hey Merlin, thanks for the support...All of you are always welcome in our server ! Normally we play between 18:00 and 22:00 almost every day !
We were trying to Create a New League here in Brazil...But we would need to have at least 4 or 6 clans...at the moment, i know that we have 3 clan active playing =]FEC[=, ..Ba^La.. and PF-TCHÊ...I'm still have the idea to do at least a tournment until the end of the year, if this Mother Fucker doesn't make more of my players quit...To play a game Banned from a server when you have only 2 it's not good.
For example, at the moment, there are 6 players at them server and 0 on mine...i really wish to play, but the Ban doesn't allow me. Patience...i think the administration will solve this.
Everybody understand English enough to know when an admin wants to talk about a Ban and they know i am here asking for your help...They keep ignoring and will until the moment someone take an action against them.
Merlin, from this distance and connection problems we have a really fucking High Ping but in some servers we are able to play, like 82nd Server. I think that we could try to schedule a game against some [SWISS] Players...what you think ?
Or you guys have any other sugestion that could be in a half way for both clans ?
Thank you all for the support !
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lol :-D
No it's NOT. Ffs, how many times does this simple fact needs to be repeated to (some of) you people. In game with <= 100 players online, banning whole clan becomes _game_ issue, not clan issue.
You're being too pedantic, forum spam is the least serious problem here. But the rest of your post and actions you took confirms that you are already aware of this.
Should be done, but only for "legal" protection of further actions. By itself won't solve anything for sure.
I'm too lazy. A warning from assist admins and then 1 hour tracking disable should do the job (of course after changing the ToS...).
Those are the exact reasons why assist admins should treat this as a game issue not a private clan/server issue.
you did hear only one site !!
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Vanoke, i don't understand why you have all this ''Passion'' with ..Ba^La..Marreco..^ and the Clan ..Ba^La.. !
Since the beggining you are here defending ABUSIVE actions that you don't have any idea of what is happening....If there is a person trying to solve it here, this person is me...They don't care about any other opinion from any other player...I would like to see what would be your position if this problem was happening to you.
Put the Tag of my clan and enter them server just to be Banned and try to solve the situation and let's see if he is a guy that ''needs to be respected'' as you said some time ago !
Do it and let's see if you change your mind about this actions !
Open your eyes Dude and see what is happening here !
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I am not defending BA^LA, But i only hear your story everytime.
Thats giving me (us) not a total picture. Ther must be a reason that they do that.
And our clan has never trobles with BA^LA players when they are on our server ore we on ther server.
You must know i also did ban a part of a clan in the past, not becose hacking but several other issues.
So i hope ther will be more anwsers soon. !
No hard feelings my site !
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They have nothing against us my friend...that's why they are not going to come here to give any other side of the history. They are just trying to Kill any other clan, speccially with server in Brazil...cause doing that they can control the game here ! Simple as that Vanoke !
If you decide now to enter my clan as =]FEC[=Vanoke^, you'll be automatically banned...Just simple like that !
There won't be more answers soon, specially from them side...If they don't come here to say WHY...they Banned us...We'll continue banned...and that's what they want !
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They have nothing against us my friend...that's why they are not going to come here to give any other side of the history. They are just trying to Kill any other clan, speccially with server in Brazil...cause doing that they can control the game here ! Simple as that Vanoke !
If you decide now to enter my clan as =]FEC[=Vanoke^, you'll be automatically banned...Just simple like that !
There won't be more answers soon, specially from them side...If they don't come here to say WHY...they Banned us...We'll continue banned...and that's what they want !
I'll try that and take screenshots, let's see how it goes.
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Well Im here, but got muted after I said "oi"
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Something they have against FEC clan for sure, I got muted immediately after I wrote that hello-line. I took the screenshot when 14 seconds of my first round was played. I didn't get kicked or banned, maybe they figured it out what was the reason for my visit over there :)
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsusirajavolley.com%2Frandom%2FScreen_Shot_2015-11-03_at_23.27.36.png&hash=5d019249db67d7c81f99e988477eab9c)
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i will try to join FEC server tomorrow - as more players there are, as more players will go there, maybe.
as i can see right now, FEC do play alone - only 4 players on theyr server. and i understand, this must be not that funny at all.
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I'll try that and take screenshots, let's see how it goes.
Making wanna try too ronski
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From the shoutbox:
In regards to 25Assist, this is to advise that the reason of some bans on the server ... Ba ^ La.. results of disrespect in chat game Face and etc ... where we ... BA ^ Las we don't have to tolerate children's attitudes are a clan with more than 10 years of history and we like to respect above all ... the player = FEC = called Executor still in ts disrespected me with rude words ... and that would put a server to confront our comes inventing lies among Brazilians. I don't see good faith with our clan ... a person who makes up lies and speaks words rude ... don't deserve coexistence ... all are welcome to our server ... as long as it's polite ... because our children also play this wonderful game ... all I ask is respect.
Dear Marreco, me and you know that you are a Liar when you say this Beautiful and Polite words ! We all from Brazil know that you lie for everybody just because you think that everyone to kills you is a Hacker ! If everybody say bad words, complain and are disrespectful against your clan...It's only because you BAN and MUTE players as you did with Ronski, with no reason ! Ronski entered your server just to have the prooff that you MUTE and Ban people without any posibility to defend ourselves...Everything started wit you Muting me after leaving your clan because i was FULL of BAN Dealing problems and players asking me to help....If you want to be respected, first of all, you as the LEADER that you say you are, should start RESPECTING more the players of this game................If anyone said something you dislike, it's because you did the same INJUSTICE you made with RONSKI using our tag today ! Being Unloyal !
And this is exactly why it is so hard for us to do anything about these server admin issues. In the end it always breaks down to one group's word against another's. We have no way of knowing the truth.
Is there any ways you guys could maybe talk it out?
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Poor assist admins QQ. No way of doing nothing QQ. One dude banning 50+ players and assist admins doing QQ.
Grow some balls and just do like against e.g. "forum spammers".
FFS!
Sorry man, I'm not like you. I won't just ban people off what I think is happening.
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You just touched the topic I conversated about with Ronski on pm. Have you ever presented _any_ _HARD_ proofs about any of the bans you made?
No.
You banned vossy just because there was too much stir about him on forums and shoutbox. I was ridiculing this vossy guy, you removed my shouts, and then immediately you banned him.
I'm not saying your decision was wrong, it was _correct_, but _please_ stop keep on saying this bs that "you ban only with proofs". You don't present any proofs, so it's like you don't have them. In this particular respect, you are no better the "dictator" p****3 admin.
No better. You are _no_ _better_ than what I did here:
http://aao25.com/forum/ban-appeals-98/bans-without-'hard-proofs' (http://aao25.com/forum/ban-appeals-98/bans-without-'hard-proofs')
Again, to make it clear: I think your actions are _correct_. Just don't try to BS me that it's any better than what I did.
Touche. However, Eliz didn't ban Vossy on people's observation alone. He was getting errors referencing things that don't even exist in 2.5 or something like that. In other words, he was doing fishy things to the game nobody else would do. Eliz could probably explain it better that I could. While there wasn't any "hard proof" there was enough reason to believe he was cheating given how fishy his play was. Vossy, however, is an exception to the people that are banned from this game which are mostly for detected known hacks like shadowbot. Do you not consider a cvar violation enough proof?
So to bring this whole thing back on topic, with Vossy we had hints that he was doing something fishy aside from his gameplay. Here I have no way to know who's being truthful or not. None at all. The language barrier makes it even harder to sort out. We don't really want to waste our time trying to solve disputes. Yes, I wish all of our players could just get along and play in harmony, but that's not going to happen and it's hard to try to force people together.
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Dear Killa, i respect all of you guys here because i know that it's really difficult to deal with this kind of problem !
Killa, being honest with you this problem just happen because we have really good players ! The guys kill a lot...even when we visit "Gringo" servers we play really good...im not saying me, im a pretty normal player but i Have Error, Estevam, Tequila, Mazoku...they Destroy ! Just that ! All this players got banned there because Ba^La said they were Hackers...but there is no proof !
How can i defend my team, as a Leader, as an admin if there is nothing proved by them to support what they are saying ? It's impossible !
If it was only for me, i would be out of this game 2 months ago when i got banned...but all the other players are counting on me...you can see that no one is posting, complaining about it...because i said that i could solve it with you !
Now i ask you, can i Ban 30 guys because some of them play well ? Without proof of Hacking?
You can see that i control my players, they respect me and we respect everyone here in the game! Help us !
They are saying that we disrespect the rules of the server but we don't ofend, don't tk and dont spam...we just kill a lot ! This is not offensive !
The solution i would propose for you is:
There is no proof that we Hack or ofend!
Ask them to remove the ban but Mute Permanently, all players using my TAG ! That would solve the problem...What you think ?
I tell you that they would not accept because the problem is not abusive...it's only because we KILL a lot !
Can you propose that, Killa ?
I am here representing 30 players ! Please don't let another clan die in Brazil because of this shit !
Thanks !
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Thanks for all your support Bernard but we still banned ! These accounts are recently changed their names and the ban was removed because of the nickname ! We still banned...when an admin enter there, kick and Ban ! :-(
But thanks anyway !
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BTW, assist admins, we (me and supreme) solved the Bala vs Fec problem for you.
Just a few rounds of trash talking as assist admins and threatening them with server shutdown did the job, and now I see some FEC playing there peacfully.
PEACE! :-P :-D
P.S. Well, they muted me, but I can live with it.
jajaja me and Bernard solved it, i was involved to so ahhaha :D cuul :D
but they didnt understand nada :P
P.S they love me and they want me in there clan hahaha <3 cool :D
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Dear Killa, i respect all of you guys here because i know that it's really difficult to deal with this kind of problem !
Killa, being honest with you this problem just happen because we have really good players ! The guys kill a lot...even when we visit "Gringo" servers we play really good...im not saying me, im a pretty normal player but i Have Error, Estevam, Tequila, Mazoku...they Destroy ! Just that ! All this players got banned there because Ba^La said they were Hackers...but there is no proof !
How can i defend my team, as a Leader, as an admin if there is nothing proved by them to support what they are saying ? It's impossible !
If it was only for me, i would be out of this game 2 months ago when i got banned...but all the other players are counting on me...you can see that no one is posting, complaining about it...because i said that i could solve it with you !
Now i ask you, can i Ban 30 guys because some of them play well ? Without proof of Hacking?
You can see that i control my players, they respect me and we respect everyone here in the game! Help us !
They are saying that we disrespect the rules of the server but we don't ofend, don't tk and dont spam...we just kill a lot ! This is not offensive !
The solution i would propose for you is:
There is no proof that we Hack or ofend!
Ask them to remove the ban but Mute Permanently, all players using my TAG ! That would solve the problem...What you think ?
I tell you that they would not accept because the problem is not abusive...it's only because we KILL a lot !
Can you propose that, Killa ?
I am here representing 30 players ! Please don't let another clan die in Brazil because of this shit !
Thanks !
I could, but chances are whoever I talk to isn't going to understand what I'm saying. Can't you go on to their TS to reason with them and purpose this yourself? Or maybe a 3rd party that knows your language?
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You just touched the topic I conversated about with Ronski on pm. Have you ever presented _any_ _HARD_ proofs about any of the bans you made?
No.
You banned vossy just because there was too much stir about him on forums and shoutbox. I was ridiculing this vossy guy, you removed my shouts, and then immediately you banned him.
I'm not saying your decision was wrong, it was _correct_, but _please_ stop keep on saying this bs that "you ban only with proofs". You don't present any proofs, so it's like you don't have them. In this particular respect, you are no better the "dictator" p****3 admin.
No better. You are _no_ _better_ than what I did here:
http://aao25.com/forum/ban-appeals-98/bans-without-'hard-proofs' (http://aao25.com/forum/ban-appeals-98/bans-without-'hard-proofs')
Again, to make it clear: I think your actions are _correct_. Just don't try to BS me that it's any better than what I did.
To make things clear it was you who discussed about the topic, not me. I was already sleeping ;)
But like I responded you this morning we don't need to have proofs when the ban is not in relation with us. But the proof must exist so all admins sees the reason in similar way and if the one who gets banned wants to ask about reasons he's able to get some.
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All this players got banned there because Ba^La said they were Hackers...but there is no proof !
Serveradmins doesn't have to ban hackers, anti-cheat tools will catch them. So because you are still able to play elsewhere with those FEC accounts, you are not hackers. So there is no point keeping bans on list because of hacking.
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I could, but chances are whoever I talk to isn't going to understand what I'm saying. Can't you go on to their TS to reason with them and purpose this yourself? Or maybe a 3rd party that knows your language?
Killa, they are answering all my texts on the ShoutBox...Corisco speaks english, Ninja, Crazy and Marreco understand enough to know what you want...In the last case, you can make the text you want here and i translate for you EXACLY how you want it.
In the Beggining we were accused to be using Hacks...now they changed the history and we are being accused to offend them...With no proofs !
The'll keep us Banned if you don't take a position about this situation.
You know this is wrong...Just Request them to remove all the bans but keep the Mute toogled on...We don't need/want to talk to any of them in the game....Just play the game ! I guarantee you that this can help.
Just request to remove the ban and mute all of us...If this is the problem they are saying that happened there, this is the solution ! You just have to use your position to finish this problem once for all.
I can translate anything you want !
Thanks,
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Or maybe a 3rd party that knows your language?
Possessed still around?
BTW executor, some of the names you mentionned are really bad players but good fragwhores
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Ganja Ganja...When are you going to visit us and give me some Frags ? hehehehehe ! Always welcome, Dude ! :-)
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I could, but chances are whoever I talk to isn't going to understand what I'm saying. Can't you go on to their TS to reason with them and purpose this yourself?
Killa, i will do exactly what you requested....making a text in Portuguese and English and Paste on ShoutBox, cause i know they don't come here ! They are answering there.
I'll ask them to respectfully remove our Ban and let us Muted ! That we respect all the history they have in America's Army and we just want to play ! No more problems created for any clan and everything get's solved in peace....Can i do this ?
It is fair enough for both parts...they are accusing for hacking and offensive without proofs and we can't defend ourselves, because there is nothing to fight against !
Thanks,
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I just would like to know if Killaman or any of you admins guys ara gonna help with this situation or we can quit and i can finally leave the game and finish another clan/server in Brazil ?
I presented a solution here.....Now it's just one of you decide to act and help me to solve this situation.
Can someone help me or should i just go ?
Killa, Bart, Eliz, Teddy, Possessed, Spanky ?
Thanks,
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I just would like to know if Killaman or any of you admins guys ara gonna help with this situation or we can quit and i can finally leave the game and finish another clan/server in Brazil ?
I presented a solution here.....Now it's just one of you decide to act and help me to solve this situation.
Can someone help me or should i just go ?
Killa, Bart, Eliz, Teddy, Possessed, Spanky ?
Thanks,
How about you send a pm to Posessed and talk with him? Maybe he would be the best negotiator. Let's just hope he'll get online soon.
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The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.
Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.
To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.
BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?
Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.
Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.
These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.
Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.
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For who does not know am ^ FoKiNh4.cK, one of CK's leaders.
performer,
I know two grievances but I think we have to solve otherwise.
We CK played since 2005 and never had problems with Ba ^ la, the Drake or any other clan AA2.
Our clan ended in AA2 due lack of upgrades and demotivation with the game. We still have some playing AA2 but most are playing the AAPG.
Portant is not true when quoting that exited the AA2 because the Ba ^ it.
Today at the CK I have some former MAB playing in Ba ^ it. They were banned.
We decided chatting and MAbs that did not play in Ba ^ it today play normally.
I know Marreco a long time and because opening to solve the cases of ban up today got Drake as a friend.
We came to the conclusion: If you want to play on a particular server, observe the people and rules of the server.
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The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.
Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.
To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.
BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?
Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.
Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.
These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.
Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.
How about that when you muted =]FEC[=Cavalo^ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/860086/) (read: me) immediately after friendly "oi" message? That makes your argument invalid, you are not handling every FEC player as a person, you make your actions because of clan tag.
This is too small community for banning people that way. "We can't tell why they are banned". Is it okay if I'd consider my dog as my religion and he would say I have to ban every player from every server where I can do it, and you just have to deal with it because its forbidden by the law of the religion to talk about it?
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The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.
Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.
To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.
BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?
Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.
Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.
These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.
Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.
What is ridiculous is saying someone is banned for a reason that you can't say. It's not like it's a government secret or something.
Not one thing you said here convinced me that members of the FEC clan should be banned on your server.
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Dear Panades, i'll treat ridiculous post you made, like Jason, by parts, because you came here to say so many Bullshit that impressed me ! With all the respect you deserve, off course ! :)
First: You don't know me and i NEVER talked or played with you ! You have no idea of what is happening, you know why ? Because you have been idlle for this game for more then 6 Months. Like your tracker can show us ! http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/635675/..%5EBala%5E..PANADES..%5E/
So you, have no idea of what is happening, maybe someone gave you a text and you just translated it ! No Problem !
Second: How would you feel, if you were banned for the only Brazilian active server with no proof and no chance to defend yourself...You would get crazy, as we became ! I just reactivated the old Clan FEC, because all the Banned players asked me to because they needed help to try to solve this situation as a team...Not like you or the rest of the ''Random'' players are doing here....I am the LEADER of my clan, and i have BALLS to solve any prolem related to it while it's under my comand...My players are banned and not posting here or in the shoutbox, because they trust me and they know i can solve or at least try to help without LIES....Like you are doing !
Third: Persona non grata ? Not legal in Brazil and US ? Christian Behavior ?------WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING DUDE ? STOP IT ! :D
The fisrt motive to the Ban was that we Hack...After that, was abusive language, Legal Problems and now Christian Behavior ? WHAAAAAT ?
Fourth: Ba^La Promoting the game ? How ? If iam recruiting BANNED players...i am bringing back players that were playing other games, like AAPG...BF4...CS GO.....I Made a lot of friends in almost 10 years in this game....and the actions you see here are my proofs...26 Players waiting for help, being patience, trusting me.
The power ''Marreco'' has at this moment, is the BAN power for Start Up clans...Marreco influded directly (kick and ban) in the end of clan {i} and {M.A.B}.....The same way is happening with us and i can bring the old players here if you want to tell to you Teddy, the same history i am telling...The leader of {i}, Branco left this version of the game and extingued his clan, because of the same problems i am facing...Some of the old players, Lucas Muller, TAG and others, are playing with me, and for the second time in less then 6 months, facing the same problem ! Satan i don't know, but if he really exists, he would be jealous to see how much mess and lies can a guy do. I don't have to say names, you know who !
It's really simple to kill a Clan...If you have few players in the game, and there is a clan in bigger number and with server, you just have to ban the tag..Doing that the players will quit and the clan will die... Resuming...you have the only Brazilian server again and you can DICTATE the rules and who can PLAY or NOT ! As i said, Simple ! That Hard to Understand, Panades ?
Fifth: CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR ? This is a really SERIOUS INDICTMENT for you to say here ! I want NAMES...Give me the name of the Person you are Charging here to be a CRIMINAL and i can search for information MYSELF and come here exposing you are telling LIES again ! Don't charge people of something you can't proof !
I don't want and will not include names of other clans here, cause this is a problem between us, but Monstro and Fokinha know exactly how does he work and how he's ABUSIVE ACTIONS are Destroying the game in Brazil...Now when i ask for another player to come back to AA2, the first thing they ask me is: WHAT FOR ? TO BE BANNED ? :-)
Mr. Teddy...the only reason my players got banned from Ba^La server is:
They don't kill there...They Destroy !
Check this =]FEC[= players last sessions that i will continue:
=]FEC[=^[e]rror.! (First and Second Accounts)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/801491/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3D%5E%5Be%5Drror.%21/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/801491/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3D%5E%5Be%5Drror.%21/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/773594/%27veterano%21./ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/773594/%27veterano%21./)
=]FEC[=Estev4m'
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/853553/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DEstev4m%27/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/853553/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DEstev4m%27/)
=]FEC[=Hurley; (First and Second Accounts)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/828616/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DHurley%3B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/828616/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DHurley%3B/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803374/blink.182/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803374/blink.182/)
=]FEC[=MazoKu^
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/601941/Husaberg_300/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/601941/Husaberg_300/)
The reason for this HOLE Bans is just because they Kill TOO MUCH ! Is it enough motive to ban ?
I know that i am Banned only because the fact that i am the LEADER of =]FEC[=...that's the motive ! You haven't and CAN'T Proof nothing to keep me Banned here !
If the Bans happened because of me being a Persona non Grata :D, legal problems in Brazil and USA, the Church and the Christian faith (that was awesome) and problems created for some players...Can you explain me why all this accounts are banned ?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740959/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPirado%3B%29%5E/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740959/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPirado%3B%29%5E/) (Old player recruited from BF4)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740582/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPiradinhO%5E/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740582/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPiradinhO%5E/) (Old player recruited from BF4)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803430/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DDarko%252B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803430/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DDarko%252B/) (Banned Player after join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/822384/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DT_A_G%5E/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/822384/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DT_A_G%5E/) (Ex '''' player banned after join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/742002/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DYAMAHA/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/742002/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DYAMAHA/) (Banned Player after Join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/805545/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPsictico%252B%252B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/805545/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPsictico%252B%252B/) (Banned player after JoinFEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/693727/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DExxon%5E/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/693727/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DExxon%5E/) (Banned player after Join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/769863/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DAdriana%5E/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/769863/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DAdriana%5E/) (Inative Woman Player since 2008 that is Banned after Join FEC on 10/10/2015, as Her tracker can show)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/794453/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/794453/) (Me...Banned for decide not to live under a person's orders and Make this game Better) !
If Ba^La is a Family of RESPECTED players that follow the Brazilian Law, trust and Believe in God and bla bla bla....WHY SO MANY LIES ? It's a game ! Every time that one of you come here with a new lie, get's worst for you all ! Stop doing that ! You are just being UNFAIR with the rest of the players.
Teddy and all the other admins responsible here...i want to let something clear here:
I NEVER HAD any intention to retrieve the Honor of them service or put them offline...NEVER...In my point of view, this would be as BAD as the banning problem we are facing here.
The situation i proposed is to take the bans out and let all the players play MUTED...How could they offend someone in a server being Muted ?
I trust your administration is good enough to solve this problem wisely...I lost a lot of time here, and all of you too. But the situation can't be more clear then it is.
You just guys have to REQUEST them to take the Bans out ! Now if they decide to don't accept an order from the admins of the game, it's a new problem for you to take an action. But Ba^La is a clan with guys who follow the rules...I am sure they will accept it ! They can't keep us Banned with this Kind of accusation, and you all know that ! If some kind of Justice exist here in this game and you admins are responsible for it, something MUST to be done !
I love this game and want to see more and more players each day...I am Here to expose FACTS...Not things created from my imagination...Help me to help the game.
And Panades, after six months without playing the game, you come here and say all this random bullshit...You could finish your week without that, Dude !
Cordially,
=]FEC[=Executor^
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Nice post. Things are very clear.
I find it very funny that Marreco calls people hacker, while he was banned for macro usage in the past (as was Estevam)
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Yeah, my first account has unfortunately been banned by macro. :(
What but the Ba^La's do not understand is that in eight years of game I learned to play almost all maps.
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/708503/.uC-Estev4m%21%3B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/708503/.uC-Estev4m%21%3B/)
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YEAH! Lots of simple changes. :D :D
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Yeah, my first account has unfortunately been banned by macro. :(
What but the Ba^La's do not understand is that in eight years of game I learned to play almost all maps.
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/708503/.uC-Estev4m%21%3B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/708503/.uC-Estev4m%21%3B/)
"Unfortunatly"? Anyway, that account was created in 2007, still quite a few namechanges but not a worrisome amount.
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And after everything that was posted here, not even the private messages i sent to admins was answered !
Awesome !
Thanks for all the support guys !
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And after everything that was posted here, not even the private messages i sent to admins was answered !
Awesome !
Thanks for all the support guys !
Im sure they are discussing about the issue at their own area, but I can imagine how hard this situation is to solve ( even for them). The key person might be Posessed, while speaking the same language as you guys he might be able to negotiate some kind of peace and he would be able to bring the message for you all that admins wants to be delivered. Major issue is that it seems he hasn't been around lately.. But hang in there, hopefully you'll get some info soon.
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Im sorry my TrollBlock doesn't allow me to read the previous post
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Im sure they are discussing about the issue at their own area, but I can imagine how hard this situation is to solve ( even for them). The key person might be Posessed, while speaking the same language as you guys he might be able to negotiate some kind of peace and he would be able to bring the message for you all that admins wants to be delivered. Major issue is that it seems he hasn't been around lately.. But hang in there, hopefully you'll get some info soon.
Nah, there's no discussion on going. We've got two sides both claiming different things. We can't/won't do anything as there is no clear case of wrongdoing. As much as I'd like to help the FEC members get back in the bala server, if the bala reasons we've heard are legitimate, we're not going to get involved.
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Nah, there's no discussion on going. We've got two sides both claiming different things. We can't/won't do anything as there is no clear case of wrongdoing. As much as I'd like to help the FEC members get back in the bala server, if the bala reasons we've heard are legitimate, we're not going to get involved.
You're right, at this point it is too hard to see who's speaking the truth. Of course Ba^La will deny everything FEC accuses and vice versa. But I feel FEC's pain since I saw it myself.
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maybe ba clan needs to be treated the same way as there treating fec
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maybe ba clan needs to be treated the same way as there treating fec
Fighting fire with fire isn't always the best solution.
Besides, as I understand this, most of the time people are at BaLa server so it won't affect them equally anyway.
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Well, this month is going to complete 3 months since that i came here for the first time to ask for HELP for the administration of this game.
We still banned, they still playing in our server when they have not enough players to make a good game on them server but when the situation is the opposite, we have to turn off the game and accept it.
After tons of views and lots of posts here ANY of you guys couldn't at least TRY to HELP....At least Try. This is incredible.
If you check the number of Brazilian players that arrived in America's Army in the last 2 months, you'll see how much we like this version of the game and how big is the activity around here.
My players are here EVERYDAY ! Check our clan tracker. But we (Specially Me) are Tired with this situation.
There is NO REASON for us to be Banned...THIS IS TOTALLY WROOOONG.
Why can't you guys Help me to solve it ? Why are you letting this situation happen without any position about their administration about the REASONS for the Ban ?
I don't understand it !
Teddy, you said that Fighting Fire with Fire isn't the best solution, but the only thing i am going to have left is to Ban all of them too and let the game die more every day here in South America.
Please, we cannot handle this situation anymore. Give them a Warning/Advice/Order to remove the bans and if ANYONE from my clan say ANYTHING, come here with proofs...Solid Proofs...Not that bullshit they came here to say few posts ago.
I don't want to fight fire with fire, but this is what going to happen this week, if you guys at least TRY to HELP.
In the attached image, you can see the player ..Ba^La..Corisco in our =]FEC[= server. The guy came here, said a lot of random bullshit about God, Brazilian Law, Criminals in my clan, said that only respectful players can play on Bala Server...Gave you loads of idiot reasons to justify our bans...but he can play in our House anytime he wants. Is that Fair for you?
I created another account, =]FEC[=Macabro^ to play in other servers, but guess what happened when i entered there and started killing ? Baaaaaaan ! :-)
I just would like you...ADMINS to think about everything that i posted here and put yourselves in MY POSITION and think what you would do !
Cordially,
=]FEC[=Executor^
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After tons of views and lots of posts here ANY of you guys couldn't at least TRY to HELP....At least Try. This is incredible.
This is complete bullshit and you know it. I understand you're upset that you can't play on their server, but don't come in here acting like I never tried to do anything. They said you were being disrespectful, and you disagreed. The bottom line is it's your word against theirs. We don't pick side, there's nothing we can do. What more do you want me to do? Fly down to Brazil and interview everyone one by one, gather witnesses and evidence and have a trial? Come on now. I tied to help, and the situation ended up being something we can't/won't get involved with. You're just going to have to deal with that.
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First of all Mr.Killaman, to Ban or Accuse any person you have to PROOF that this person did something wrong, otherwise, WHAT IS THE PROPOSE OF THIS BAN APPEALS Topics? Someone needs to Ban (proving why) and Someone needs to come here and appeal...Isn't it ? And with almost 30 people banned it would NOT be difficult to have a better proof then God's Behavior ! :-)
But by the tone of your words, i can see that you have no idea of what really happens around here and you don't want to act like a real admin.
Thanks Killa but It's not necessary for you to take a flight to Brazil, cause i think that even Interviewing each player of this game in South America, with all the respect, i don't think you have Balls to Face the problem and solve anything.
Feell free to ban me, delete me, erase this post, make a voodoo...Whatever you want ! I just don't care anymore !
This was my last post here in this forum.
Have a good Week, Killa !
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First of all Mr.Killaman, to Ban or Accuse any person you have to PROOF that this person did something wrong, otherwise, WHAT IS THE PROPOSE OF THIS BAN APPEALS Topics? Someone needs to Ban (proving why) and Someone needs to come here and appeal...Isn't it ? And with almost 30 people banned it would NOT be difficult to have a better proof then God's Behavior ! :-)
But by the tone of your words, i can see that you have no idea of what really happens around here and you don't want to act like a real admin.
Thanks Killa but It's not necessary for you to take a flight to Brazil, cause i think that even Interviewing each player of this game in South America, with all the respect, i don't think you have Balls to Face the problem and solve anything.
Feell free to ban me, delete me, erase this post, make a voodoo...Whatever you want ! I just don't care anymore !
This was my last post here in this forum.
Have a good Week, Killa !
We don't rule on server bans. Our ban section is for Assist bans only. We have no obligation to help you get unbanned from bala server yet I tried to help you anyways. Now you get mad at me for not getting you guys unbanned? That's ridiculous.
Also, love the insults. Stay classy.
And if anyone else here was wondering why we don't get involved in matters like this, well here you go. :P
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I have rough solution for this issue: remove tracking from Ba^La & FEC servers until they have solved their problem on their own. This cat-and-mouse play is not good for the game.
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I have rough solution for this issue: remove tracking from Ba^La & FEC servers until they have solved their problem on their own. This cat-and-mouse play is not good for the game.
That would be hurting Brazilian players that have nothing to do with this dispute. I'm not going to support that. Also, we would just be forcing people that don't like each other to play together, and what good would that do? What would be the end result? Players in a server constantly throwing around insults at each other. This isn't something that can be forced, nor is it something that we should get involved in. If they can't grow up and play together like adults I see no reason why we should try to make them do so. If you want to try to solve this dispute then go ahead, but I'm done trying to do anything, especially after Executor's last post which was childish and insulting at best.
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That would be hurting Brazilian players that have nothing to do with this dispute. I'm not going to support that. Also, we would just be forcing people that don't like each other to play together, and what good would that do? What would be the end result? Players in a server constantly throwing around insults at each other. This isn't something that can be forced, nor is it something that we should get involved in. If they can't grow up and play together like adults I see no reason why we should try to make them do so. If you want to try to solve this dispute then go ahead, but I'm done trying to do anything, especially after Executor's last post which was childish and insulting at best.
You are right, that might just cause more harm. I was going simple and thinking Brazilian players are most likely either on Ba^La or FEC.
I feel Excecutor since I faced injustice myself wearing their tags once, but still it's word against another, pretty shitty situation - no one from outside can understand what is the real story behind all. No one from outside can jump there in and settle to one's side. Point in going rough was taking neutral action into case causing similar situation for both clans and awaking them both that they need to make peace together on their own or this game simply dies at South America.
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Point in going rough was taking neutral action into case causing similar situation for both clans and awaking them both that they need to make peace together on their own or this game simply dies at South America.
I feel like holding their servers (which they most likely pay for) hostage is only going to hurt the Brazilian community as some might leave while they have no tracked server to play on. Also, the clans themselves might leave.
We can't force people to work it out. These are supposed to be grown adults, we shouldn't have to make them hold hands for 10 minutes until they get along again like they're small children.
You can't help everybody and sometimes it's best to stay out of it. I've already been insulted by the person I was trying to help. If that isn't proof of what I'm saying, I don't know what is.
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I feel like holding their servers (which they most likely pay for) hostage is only going to hurt the Brazilian community as some might leave while they have no tracked server to play on. Also, the clans themselves might leave.
We can't force people to work it out. These are supposed to be grown adults, we shouldn't have to make them hold hands for 10 minutes until they get along again like they're small children.
You can't help everybody and sometimes it's best to stay out of it. I've already been insulted by the person I was trying to help. If that isn't proof of what I'm saying, I don't know what is.
Two sided coin, this situation now might give for some FEC players reason to leave as well, but at least it shouldn't affect on those who are not playing at any clan. So since there's simply nothing to do, you just have to pay that price if it's needed.
I know some players / clan leaders can act like tyrants, having server(s) makes them feel they have some kind of advantage over others - they rule what happens. If you wan't to settle there you simply have to do how they want you to do. But you can always choose your own path to walk with.
So Executor, if the situation over there is really as bad as you say, Im not meaning just bans - I mean the clan leader of Ba^La - choose your own way to go and don't lower yourself to the same level. Your clan will grow while you show up justice and leadership. You should encourage more people to come reading forum so they get more point of views and they can make their own conclusions.
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Killa, you are saying here that you made all the possible to help, but since the beggining you are treating this situation as something not important as it is.
I would like to know what you did to Help, like you said. Not even the private messages i sent for You, Teddy, Eliz and Possessed were answered...Not even that you did.
You have no idea of how many problems and desistance of players this Ban situation is causing around here.
Today, i have members of the extingued clans: [FMB], uC., {I}, {M.A.B} and oK.
If you want me to Bring all this players here and tell you what happened with them, why they left this version of the game, they will tell you the same thing...They got Banned from the ONLY Brazilian Server active in South America in the moment they left...Ba^La...i think that if you open a server, even if you pay for that...you cannot exclude players only because you want. You own your server...Not the Game...You are representing the game in your country...so everything you do in your server...you are doing/representing the WHOLE comunity.
In every other kind of Multiplayer game i've been since i started playing i never saw a situation like this.
Counter Strike, Call of Duty, BattleField...even in Age of Empires the rules are the following:
You are an admin: You can Ban a player, but you have to proof the motives this player got banned in your server.
You are the Banned player: You have the right and a place (that should be here) to defend yourself to be extingued from a server/game.
WHY THIS CAN'T WORK HERE ? I don't understand !
You have to understand something Killaman, at this EXACTLY moment i am typing here we have 101 servers and 7 players in the Game.
I've seen in the last days that the maximum players online at the same time is around 75...80.
If you are not measuring how big the problem is, you are letting almost 50% of the game banned just because you want to ignore this situation. You know that if you wish...you could solve this situation easilly...if you really wanted.
I initiated clan =]FEC[= in 10/09/2015...In last than 3 Months i have almost 35 members. It's not always that we can be online together, but we are growing...Seing this situation, ..Ba^La.. leader Marreco, decided to Ban everybody, to stop people joining us...This is the Magic....If you Join =]FEC[= You are Banned (Like Ronski had the pleasure to see)...Because he knows we respect our players and everybody who arrive in our server. This is the strategy Killaman.
There won't be insults Killa, you know why ? Cause they play with us almost everyday...And i dare ..Ba^La..Corisco, ..Ba^La..Destroyer, ..Ba^La..Coronel, ..Ba^La..Ninja, ..Ba^La..Jesuino, ..Ba^La..Sombra, ..Ba^La..SoldadoFox and all the others who play with us to come here and say that they are disrespected in our server.
Ronski, thanks for the support and know that i just have a meeting with all the =]FEC[= members and we decided that Banning the whole ..Ba^La.. in our server is not going to solve the situation...this is what HE wants...but i am not like him. I am not UNFAIR with people.
Killa, you come here and say i am acting Childish and Insultant but in my point of view, you (and i don't know whoelse) are a DECISION MAKER in this game and you are not acting like one. So i am not the child one.
I tried to solve it by myself, you told me that there were not a lot of complains about ..Ba^La..'s attitude...i bring 20 players here to show you i am not alone, you said that we were spammimg the Forum.
What you want me to do to PROOF that this situation is wrong ? Tell me the solution and i can give it to you.
But acting like you are doing, you are just being accessary with this situation.
There is more then 100 Active players in Brazil...I want to help assist to grow up.
As i told you in my private messages, i can help the game to open public servers in Brazil that would support whole south america (I have a service provider ready to do it), gather donations, help to publicize the game, create tournments and leagues as we have before...I WANT TO HELP America's Army. I Really like this game !
Do you think i like to come here and write this long and boring texts ? No...i want to stop that too.
There is two clans/servers/leaders/teams in Brazil...One is trying to shake this game and bring more players and the Other is just throwing Bans and Dictating who/when plays or not.
What you or any other person can do to REALLY Help, Killa ?
TS: clanfec.ts3dns.com
Whats: +55 (61) 9669-0079
Available 24/7 !
Thanks,
=]FEC[=Executor^
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Ronski, thanks for the support and know that i just have a meeting with all the =]FEC[= members and we decided that Banning the whole ..Ba^La.. in our server is not going to solve the situation...this is what HE wants...but i am not like him. I am not UNFAIR with people.
You made smart decision over there :up: But you need to understand it as well that this is still word against another, that's why it's too hard subject to be solved from outside. Just remember to be respectful and you'll see it yourself eventually that you don't need the other clan at all, you can go forward without them. People over there must see it as well which one of those major clans is the good and which one is the evil.
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In every other kind of Multiplayer game i've been since i started playing i never saw a situation like this.
Counter Strike, Call of Duty, BattleField...even in Age of Empires the rules are the following:
You are an admin: You can Ban a player, but you have to proof the motives this player got banned in your server.
You are the Banned player: You have the right and a place (that should be here) to defend yourself to be extingued from a server/game.
WHY THIS CAN'T WORK HERE ? I don't understand !
We don't know why you and the CLAN on who's server you're banned (BaLa) haven't been able to work it out. As you described, this is how it works in other games and it's the same way here. You get banned from one place, you need to take it up with them. We didn't ban you, we can't unban you. Only BaLa can do that.
The only reason this is even discussed at this level (by the people who help run this whole game) is because we don't have a lot of players and it is therefore possible. In any other game with thousands of players, this kind of problem would be dismissed within minutes. Killaman tried to do what was in his power and should not be asked to do more than he can.
I understand you feel you and your clan have been banned unfairly - and that might indeed be the case -, however it has always been and still is a problem between you and BaLa.
I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but it's the unfortunate truth.
This is a community, if the admins here start being dictators and doing everything they want to any server they want, it will soon not be. At least in my view, that's why we can't act on such things.
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I am to follow the forum. My intention is that these problems are solved in the best possible way. I am a member of ..Ba ^ La .., Corisco ... I am relatively new to the clan, although it is already built about a 4 or five years. Let's gather esfoços for the game to grow and all have fun .
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Guys, since the very beggining i came here trying to solve this situation to make America's Army get bigger and better for all the Brazilian players.
I think that I AM DOING it in the wrong way, so i come here in the name of my Clan and i would like to APOLOGIZE myself, all my team, with first of all with the Assit admin Killaman, cause i know that you guys, as admins have a big responsibility and lots of problems, i would like to Apologyze with ..Ba^La..Corisco, ..Ba^La..Marreco and the whole clan ..Ba^La.. !
I know that you have 10 years of history in this game and this will not be erased and i NEVER tried to damage or prejudice You all ! I have friends there and i think that we can all be better then this !
Marreco and Corisco, i would like to propose you guys to promote the game together...We can make this game better and bigger if we work together.
Everybody makes mistakes, but i think that the most important thing is to recognize what we have done Wrong and use it to create a new and better situation!
When i started with FEC...i absorved some players that had differences with you in the past, but i know that we are living in a different age now and the mistakes made in the past will not happen again !
Let's give a chance to everybody and make this game (that we all love and play everyday) BIGGER and BETTER !
Thanks for your help Corisco ! Count on me with anytime !
Hooah !
=]FEC[=Executor^
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You just told me on server, that there is <3 now between FEC and BALA.
My heart grows in moments like this, when I see that people with balls can make a peace after having an argument.
HOAH FEC & BALA!
And your heart is not the only thing that is growing when you see people with balls...
Great news, good job Guys :)
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if have a heart its stone dead.. :D