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Community => Games & Programming => Topic started by: Spanky on Thursday, December 03, 2009, 21:38:47 PM
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There is absolutely no reason why everybody shouldn't try Windows 7. It's time to give up XP, it's too old. Vista was and still is great. The problem was that people still haven't realized you can't upgrade and upgrade software without getting newer hardware. Try running a modern game on a Pentium 3. It probably won't even start. There were driver mess-ups with Vista but still, it was a very solid OS. Windows 7 is much better. Everything is easier to use and customize and I can't even count the features that I love. Yes it will require more RAM to run but... it's totally worth it and if you don't have enough RAM to run it, I don't know how you're able to browse the web on XP. If anybody has any questions about it, feel free to ask. I've been running it since before the release and I won't use any other OS for my personal computers.
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Does it use less than 300MB of ram with a clean reboot with nothing but the desktop loaded?
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I actually really like Vista. Sure there are a few minor bugs, but overall it a pretty good. I have been thinking about upgrading to Windows 7. The main reason I want to go to Windows 7 is because I want to get a 64-bit OS. I currently only have Vista 32-bit. I also hear that Windows 7 runs a bit faster than Vista.
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I'll have to launch up a Virtual Machine and check that out for you. Do you want to know 32-bit or 64-bit?
@ Killaman, I looked up benchmarks and if I recall right, Windows 7 out-performed both Vista and XP in several benchmark tests. XP was a little harder to beat but it was mostly either on-par or better than it. 64-bit OS's are awesome and there is no reason why people should hesitate to have them.
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I'll have to launch up a Virtual Machine and check that out for you. Do you want to know 32-bit or 64-bit?
@ Killaman, I looked up benchmarks and if I recall right, Windows 7 out-performed both Vista and XP in several benchmark tests. XP was a little harder to beat but it was mostly either on-par or better than it. 64-bit OS's are awesome and there is no reason why people should hesitate to have them.
The only reason I am hesitating on getting Windows 7 64-bit is that it is $120 for the upgrade. and no, I'm not gonna pirate windows 7. ;D
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I'm not gonna pirate windows 7. ;D
Good, Microsoft deserves the support for releasing an excellent OS.
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I'll have to launch up a Virtual Machine and check that out for you. Do you want to know 32-bit or 64-bit?
64-bit is fine, since I only use 64-bit anyways.
64-bit OS's are awesome and there is no reason why people should hesitate to have them.
And without them you would only be able to use 3.5GB out of your 6GB total RAM, Spanky. :)
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And without them you would only be able to use 3.5GB out of your 6GB total RAM, Spanky. :)
*cough*8GB*cough* :D Also, on Windows anyway, the 3.5GB usage I believe is determined by your GPU memory amount as well. It's a whole mess. For some it's 3.2GB for others it's 3.5GB. Either way it's messed up and worth it to upgrade.
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Well still on a 64-bit system you can have a total of a billion, million terabytes of memory, if not more.
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Here's a screenshot of a freshly installed copy of Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on boot-up:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/464376/headshot/12-3-2009%207-52-02%20PM.png
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Not bad, definitely better than Vista. I'll have to reboot and get the numbers for Ubuntu.
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A fresh install of Ubuntu will use about 238MB of RAM. Screen Shot (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/115304/Screenshot-Ubuntu%209.10%20%5BRunning%5D%20-%20Sun%20VirtualBox-1.png) Seems to hold steady at that too, unless I do something. :)
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I think that Windows 7, like XP, still has a dynamic usage of RAM. Meaning, if you have more RAM, it'll use it, if you have less RAM it'll use less. So obviously values won't be consistent among different levels of RAM.
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Who let this trouble maker in here :D
Anyway, it should have been worth noting that I ran Windows 7 in a VM with 2GB of ram...
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I can run XP on a VM on a 128MB stick so........... =)
But then again, every version of XP I test is modded heavily.
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I've had an older version of ubuntu (Maybe 8.04) on one stick of 256MB before. It seemed to run fine. :)
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But then again, every version of XP I test is modded heavily.
I'm slowly gaining the will-power to post about that. When I do, I'm sure you'll add stuff since I learned from you :)
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I've had an older version of ubuntu (Maybe 8.04) on one stick of 256MB before. It seemed to run fine. :)
I kind of expect most OS's to run well on at least 128MB of 262.5 MHz RAM. I've got another computer in the house built from garbage that runs XP on that actuallly =D
I'm slowly gaining the will-power to post about that. When I do, I'm sure you'll add stuff since I learned from you :)
Yea, this stuff is fun, you learn a lot =D
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I tend to get fancy on the looks of my OS.
I like to re-image it myself, almost completely.
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League table of OS's
1. Ubuntu Linux (Will run on anything and FAST)
2. Mac OSX (Will only run on Macs so pushed back to 2nd place, FAST)
3. Windows 7 (Reliable but slow)
4. Windows XP (Sometimes slow, but unreliable)
5. Windows VISTA (Very Slow and Unreliable)
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um, Vista isn't slow at all...... :-\ I have never had Vista crash on me or anything either. I would say it's pretty reliable.
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Anything has bias in it, let Jonny have his list. Of course everyone's list would look different.
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I'ma keep my hands outta this one :D
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I have windows 7 and its running great, i haven't had trouble with it at all and its also very easy to use
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I have windows 7 and its running great, i haven't had trouble with it at all and its also very easy to use
+1
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Vista was and still is great. The problem was that people still haven't realized you can't upgrade and upgrade software without getting newer hardware.
I have been telling people this for years. Finally glad to see someone agree with me.
I have been using vista since it came out. Made sure i built a system capable of handling it and its worked fine for years.
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By years, you mean the two and a half years since the last post in this thread?
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By years, you mean the two and a half years since the last post in this thread?
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!
Seriously though, I hate how a lot of forums have time limits on threads. I wasn't aware that discussions and ideas expire in the real world.
Vista isn't "bad" but I would rank it #3. I mean, it has nice features but doesn't natively support TRIM so for computers with SSD's, it sucks.
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I still prefer windows 98
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I still prefer windows 98
Very easy to be remotely exploited with armitage and some private stuff (alboraaq have some amazing exploits to this OS on the vip area).
Almost like the logmein or teamview fast login ;D
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I would imagine so, it hasn't had updates in a long time.