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Kind of a big bump im sorry for that, however, I really have to share my thoughts on this one.
I been occupied with other important rl stuff, and have to admit I was really disappointed when I came back to see the whiney lil that never get C/203 (so the majority) have voted out the 203's    why didnt tell anyone them to get better so they can pick their guns first?!

If you NEED to fix something.. fix the roofbug (which could have been evened out by nading the ww roof) or the silencer/reload/swap bug for that matter
see? why get stuff that works out and keeping bugs that are being exploited in?

I know the time to change this back has long gone, so dont see this as an addition to the thread.. its just a big rant, sorry 

Removing and changing the weapons just cause you dont like is lame. Hospital was fine as it was. Now you cant 203 WW roof, the escort side can easily smoke underpass and vip can just rush outside without worrying to be blown up. Its fucking retarded.
Why dont you remove the G from bridge crossing too? omg i got blown up in first 20 seconds please remove im trash at this game and cant use brain to take cover from obvius spots that get spamed with g at start..

Turn tables for what? Ive been killed by spam and adapted my gameplay, i also enjoi spaming on hospital. I play like i want and the way the game was made is more fun than its now. Removing the G on hospital is pointless and I have no idea how a admin would have thought of doing that

Turn tables for what? Ive been killed by spam and adapted my gameplay, i also enjoi spaming on hospital. I play like i want and the way the game was made is more fun than its now. Removing the G on hospital is pointless and I have no idea how a admin would have thought of doing that

Turning the tables as being the one that does the spamming. It's not fun. It's cheap kills that makes for boring gameplay for both teams. You can't adapt when there's only 1 way in the hospital for escort. As for getting killed by ambush, have your team lay down cover fire for a round or two and ambush will change tactics.

I've played more Hospital after the 203 removal because it's more enjoyable. I don't feel like it's a campers paradise anymore with people leaning around corners just waiting to spam.

Good job removing 203s and making the game worse with removing the only counter play

Thanks for the compliment. If you have any real suggestions or input on changes we're considering, feel free to visit the forum more than just to rage.

How can people complain about being spammed from West Wing ... When I play escort, I go in the bushes and shoot the spammers, simple, after 2 rounds nobody dares to spam anymore, problem solved.

Now there's more teamwork needed from escort to smoke etc, and ambush needs to push a little harder and thus get out of their camping spots if they want to kill the vip, it's a good compromise imo

besides the G isn't even removed from hospital its the server admins choice to put a time limit before the G can be used. Its simply just another server admin choice that assist allows us to have.

I doubt that's true though.

How can people complain about being spammed from West Wing ... When I play escort, I go in the bushes and shoot the spammers, simple, after 2 rounds nobody dares to spam anymore, problem solved.

Now there's more teamwork needed from escort to smoke etc, and ambush needs to push a little harder and thus get out of their camping spots if they want to kill the vip, it's a good compromise imo

I doubt that's true though.

OK so I see the 203 is actually removed, but you can still put a timelimit where 203 and or nade spam is not allowed I assume that's for all maps seeing as hospital doesn't have 203 at all I thought if you set spamprotecttime203=0 to maybe 10 instead of zero you would actually be allowed a 203 on your sf but nope

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It's been discussed before. There's been attempts and "fixing" the roofbug in the past. The players didn't like it.
The problem with it is, that it's not really a map specific bug. It's an engine specific bug. And there's nothign we can do to change the engine.
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Q: What kind of problem?

Definitely it's a BSP error - snapping vertices should fix the problem.