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Title: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 15:31:10 PM
BEING THEY BRING NO GOOD CAUSE HERE , AND KNOWN CHEATERS,
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: pit-23 on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 15:44:57 PM
Better idea would be: "should Wickid be forced to learn how to use caps lock"
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Mike Mentzer on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 16:20:05 PM
I would ban you and keep pit!
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 16:38:22 PM
option 2
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:15:08 PM
Pit - Confessed Cheater and liar
Lowhertz - Cheater, even tried to DOS the Auth Server a couple of times

Easiest vote ever, Option 1
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:20:03 PM
I banned their accounts again...
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:27:06 PM
I'm wiping my hands of this. I have no opinion and will not vote.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: alechko1 on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:29:53 PM
I banned their accounts again...

That kind of takes the whole point of this poll isn't it? The community seem to disagree with that decision (atleast for now)
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:49:43 PM
why would we let them be active in the forums, they do nothing. I'm the only one that can do nothing here!
I'm taking that big stone out of My Path, No Mercy over them.

there are other channels to communicate in case they have something to contribute, but the public forums is closed to them!

btw, they cannot post, not fully banned.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: DwightSchrute on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:00:43 PM
So what am I getting banned for again? Are my posts "too logical" for you, or did I hurt your pride/feelings or something? Really, explain it to me as I can't understand it.

All I see is people being majorly rude to me and not the opposite.

And what a ridiculous excuse "they do nothing",  I won't even elaborate .

But since it's on polls, option 2.

EDIT:

Surprisingly there is even a 50% voting for us (14 votes in total), I think you did well with this poll, it's like a community's collective IQ test.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:03:12 PM
So what am I getting banned for again? Are my posts "too logic" for you or did I hurt your pride/feelings or something? Really explain it to me as I can't understand it.

All I see is people being majorly rude to me and not the opposite.

And what a ridiculous excuse "they do nothing",  I won't even elaborate .

But since it's on polls, option 2.

Do you denying to trying to take down our auth service?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:04:07 PM
Cuz I can and I want to, deal with it.

poll mentions REMOVAL , silencing isn't included :P
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: woopty on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 19:17:00 PM
Dont beat around the bush,,, just do it and be done,,,,, move forward. cheaters are cheaters,,, and trying to take down the auth,,,, really ? why is he still he to begain with ? as far as pit !!!! pffff ,,, woulda been gone long ago.. theres my 2 cent.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 20:09:00 PM
Do you denying to trying to take down our auth service?

never knew that,
even a better reason to get rid of em both
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: NoBigDeal on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 20:20:07 PM
Opt. 1: There is no point in doing this... In Europe, we have public access to the Net on almost every corner of the street - only with this I can open new account every 10 min. Imagine what can be done, with something much more sophisticated - 10.000..? ...maybe more...
This opt. will only cause more rage.

Opt. 2: From what I see, they are in opposition, and that (as everywhere...) is helping to create equilibrium. Constructive criticism should be appreciated by everyone...

Meantime, in this forum, there are many people ( without good manners and/or education - mostly the second explains the first...) who really 'BRING NO GOOD CAUSE HERE' and (if any...) who should be the subject of this voting.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 20:27:45 PM
Opt. 1: There is no point in doing this... In Europe, we have public access to the Net on almost every corner of the street - only with this I can open new account every 10 min. Imagine what can be done, with something much more sophisticated - 10.000..? ...maybe more...
This opt. will only cause more rage.

Opt. 2: From what I see, they are in opposition, and that (as everywhere...) is helping to create equilibrium. Constructive criticism should be appreciated by everyone...

Meantime, in this forum, there are many people ( without good manners and/or education - mostly the second explains the first...) who really 'BRING NO GOOD CAUSE HERE' and (if any...) who should be the subject of this voting.

This is people that tried to DOS the auth server a couple of times, they don't belong here.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: 1m50ry on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 20:57:10 PM
This looks like personal war not like some random cheaters.why these 2 keep doing this?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: EpicGoat on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:23:07 PM
This is people that tried to DOS the auth server a couple of times, they don't belong here.

So you ask him a question, then ban him... how is he supposed to reply? Hertz and pit-23 never DOSed the auth server.

Possessed PMed Hertz recently asking for help develping his private hack (http://imgur.com/a/6TCab), and just because he didn't want to help, Possessed took it personally. Pretty handy to spread lies, and ban the person so they can't contest them.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:24:31 PM
So you ask him a question, then ban him... how is he supposed to reply? Hertz and pit-23 never DOSed the auth server.

Possessed PMed Hertz recently asking for help develping his private hack (http://imgur.com/a/6TCab), and just because he didn't want to help, Possessed took it personally. Pretty handy to spread lies, and ban the person so they can't contest them.

Was waiting for you to post , IP traces at the time indicates you and hertz was the ones DOS'ing the AUTH.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: EpicGoat on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:37:59 PM
Was waiting for you to post , IP traces at the time indicates you and hertz was the ones DOS'ing the AUTH.

So now you're also accusing me of DoSing? I guess you could accuse everyone else you hate on this forum with the same excuse. inb4 ban
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:42:18 PM
So now you're also accusing me of DoSing? I guess you could accuse everyone else you hate on this forum with the same excuse. inb4 ban

I didn't see a denial in there anywhere
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: EpicGoat on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:53:41 PM
I didn't see a denial in there anywhere

I didn't see you denying your involvement with the terrorists that took down the WTC in 2001, does it mean that you had something to do with it?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 21:58:34 PM
I didn't see you denying your involvement with the terrorists that took down the WTC in 2001, does it mean that you had something to do with it?

A natural response to someone accusing you of doing something you didn't do, would be to deny it.

To YOUR question:
No, I wasn't involved in 9/11, that was rather insensitive of you to accuse me of something that horrific.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 00:18:54 AM
So you ask him a question, then ban him... how is he supposed to reply? Hertz and pit-23 never DOSed the auth server.

Possessed PMed Hertz recently asking for help develping his private hack (http://imgur.com/a/6TCab), and just because he didn't want to help, Possessed took it personally. Pretty handy to spread lies, and ban the person so they can't contest them.
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Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 00:35:09 AM
I didn't see you denying your involvement with the terrorists that took down the WTC in 2001, does it mean that you had something to do with it?

why would u even bring this up, how stupid can u be
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 02:17:30 AM
Too much drama on this forum

First I don't see why the poll is up, anyone can make their account in no seconds at all after being banned.
Second thing just hesitates me to remove both sides, You can try and try and try to ban hackers/cheaters from the game but you won't ban all of them, there is always going to be one around us, that's a fact and admins should know that. Admins are just tired of them and have taken too much that they take SS from our desktops. Look how popular is other versions of the game, they don't use such a shit, think about it, this game only has 100 people on. You need help of developing new idea of the anti cheat? well it's obvious you can think of something, not hard if you really try. It's like a war between good users and bad users, admins should ignore all of this and go on with the game problems.

ELIZ@ personally I don't know why you stick with this game, so much headache from this community, for free such a good coder- a coder working for free? You must be kidding me, start your own business, work for a coding company, you are really good and shouldn't be wasting such a time on the half dead game.

Stop fighting between others, this community the first I've ever seen being so much mad, angered and fucked up. Not surprised why people don't join the game, so much noneducational people, stop supporting each other and get on, and personal stuff that included hacking talk in pm. Wicked I thought you are a nice guy, but why the hell would you bring more movement in the community?

Community is a problem to the game, now I see.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Saltuarius on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 07:38:19 AM
well the reason why there are only 100 ppl playing is certainly aapg.
but on the other hand the community is not healthy. there is drama and anger everywhere. the project is missing someone, who has a vision, leads and takes this project further. we're lucky to have eliz, but beside him, the kinda guys i described are missing.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
Too much drama on this forum

How can this forum be taken seriously when everybody has negative points (internetz)
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 09:56:16 AM
free hertz and pit
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 10:02:40 AM
Release Pit. Fuck Hertz.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Ban Aesthetic
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
well the reason why there are only 100 ppl playing is certainly aapg.

Nope. There's about 850 a day on AA 2.5.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 13:01:19 PM
125 right now :)
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: bollie on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 13:39:44 PM
143 now
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Yahoo on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 13:40:32 PM
Stop fighting between others, this community the first I've ever seen being so much mad, angered and fucked up. Not surprised why people don't join the game, so much noneducational people, stop supporting each other and get on, and personal stuff that included hacking talk in pm.

At first we had one head-admin who raged and becames the bigest cheater in game, after that a new (old) admin arrives, inject a trojan, gets emotional, rages and close down assist, Possessed and Spanky constantly accusing each other publicly...

The leadership is fucked up. Admin's behavior reflects the way community acts, you can try to deny it but it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 13:49:29 PM
At first we had one head-admin who raged and becames the bigest cheater in game, after that a new (old) admin arrives, inject a trojan, gets emotional, rages and close down assist, Possessed and Spanky constantly accusing each other publicly...

The leadership is fucked up. Admin's behavior reflects the way community acts, you can try to deny it but it's as simple as that.

Oddly enough, I agree. Also, everybody loves to hate me.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Petrol on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 14:24:21 PM
You should shut up your faces and do something. I meen wirte some kind of petition to some peoples that are able to restart offcial support for AAO, or give it to comunity.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 14:28:03 PM
https://www.nic.at/ui/index.php/whois/ -> epicgo.at, that info is public...

so only Pit can show ppls names, pics etc? fuck off.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 14:38:33 PM
At first we had one head-admin who raged and becames the bigest cheater in game, after that a new (old) admin arrives, inject a trojan, gets emotional, rages and close down assist, Possessed and Spanky constantly accusing each other publicly...

The leadership is fucked up. Admin's behavior reflects the way community acts, you can try to deny it but it's as simple as that.
Great points, but what will change in upcoming days, years? nothing it will remain as it is, shit arguments between each other, nerverless the community is so small and you fight between each other who is the coolest guy and who licks more asses to be liked in the circle. I already see post whores, spammers, and admin ass lickers in the community, its not hard, i saw it after couple times of visiting. Admins should stand up and act as an admins, having higher standings who doesn't get into every argument, you don't like that and that, then don't fucking play the game isn't this clear? I don't like many things of this version of the game including people here, but what can I do? nothing because I'm not going to do anything until the community is shown its worth.

For admins I would say, take the criticism and learn from them as others do. And there is no method to stop hackers, there is always going to be an option of them to go around the system. I don't see any point to be so harsh on the people who hacks/cheats or else does something, no point because you won't help it in any way, you have to take people's personalities, and again it was so stupid with the poll and even a discussion about pit and heartz, Nodeal@ said enough, respect for that guy whoever he is, we need more people like him. Too much admins for this game you doing and for its people, Player base is low, 143 is not enough, if i was offered to do something with coding with this player base I wouldn't even dare if I would not get payed. But it also sucks when admins does what they can and others just blame them for helping the assist.

P.S i also see that admins take this as a joke when someone is trying to help and teach them some of the tutorials of being a grown staff. Got bored to be honest of lazy jokes possesed makes with spanky, no idea they argue every time and make jokes that not even have purpose within the assist like with everyone else, if you want to joke around do it in shoutbox or with other communicational apps, and I don't see why pit and heartz can't stay here, they make community much more active even tho they hacked, but remember hacking can bring for ''good'' educational purposes and for ''bad'' as advantages over others.

And the last thing, grown up and act as an admins not like a jokers around. Same for users, respect each other, accept mistakes others did. Is it so hard?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 14:49:49 PM
so only Pit can show ppls names, pics etc? fuck off.
I'm not aware of public posts with people's info. If you know where it is, remove it.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 14:55:18 PM

Nicely said, good points there. I could clearly recognize myself in this, but it's stronger then me, I feel like I need to posts sometimes ... I don't think Pit and Hertz should be banned, this is a free forum, but like AAC said, the entire community should grow up and stop bitching about eachother
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:04:02 PM
Exactly start by yourself
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:13:51 PM
The thing is. There are way too many people on these forums that stopped playing the game and keep talking bs, like that guy in the post up here. Their only intention is to make people argue and trying to troll or whatever. They should be taken care of
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Yahoo on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:15:08 PM
I thought you were 'friends'...
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: bollie on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:17:43 PM
I thought you were 'friends'...

Since noobstain is banned not anymore i think  :D
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:23:17 PM
The thing is. There are way too many people on these forums that stopped playing the game and keep talking bs, like that guy in the post up here. Their only intention is to make people argue and trying to troll or whatever. They should be taken care of

 I speak the truth, if you think it's bs then that's up to you. The truth is that 75% of your posts are full of hatred to people, you are trying to put people down to make yourself feel better. Because you play 24/7 and have little social life, trying to seek attention on this forum exactly like this post of you  :) Even before I stopped playing you talked shit to everybody, so don't say me, pit or hertz are trying to make people argue. Now get your e-friends to help you out on this one :up:
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:26:11 PM
I speak the truth, if you think it's bs then that's up to you. The truth is that 75% of your posts are full of hatred to people, you are trying to put people down to make yourself feel better. Because you play 24/7 and have little social life, trying to seek attention on this forum exactly like this post of you  :) Even before I stopped playing you talked shit to everybody, so don't say me, pit or hertz are trying to make people argue. Now get your e-friends to help you out on this one :up:

The thing is, you put yourself down ...
Which post you talking about?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:30:00 PM
The thing is, you put yourself down ...
Which post you talking about?

For example in the shoutbox about me, like 2 days ago  :D
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 15:36:39 PM
The thing is. There are way too many people on these forums that stopped playing the game and keep talking bs, like that guy in the post up here. Their only intention is to make people argue and trying to troll or whatever. They should be taken care of

+1, admins should work not bitch and go into arguments, don't think about forum posts that are not necessary, make life easier for those who play the game and enjoy. Eliz, i am satisfied with your coding, i saw other posts where you have included yourself in developing SAI, even trying to move the game to 2.8 version but sadly it was canceled. I am amazed, i understand that you fell angry on those who hacks, you pay your free time to develop the game and make it safer for everyone to play at his own level, but you know it's impossible, even for the professional coder:)

Focus on the game, and make sure community stays in respectful mode. People that troll around in unnecessary forum sections should be taken care of. Of course ban won't stop them but this is the only thing you can do is just keep banning them, that's part of admins job. I don't want to teach how to be admin on the forum but please keep it clean, getting tired of all the crap on this forum.

Hooah +1 Ganja

and allow banned players stay on the forum, if they are good and still helpful to the community it's not bad at all, you know they take their risk and responsibility for their actions, its their fault who tries hacks, in AA3 there was and still is hundreds of hacks, which are made every day.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, October 14, 2013, 01:03:02 AM
https://www.nic.at/ui/index.php/whois/ -> epicgo.at, that info is public...

so only Pit can show ppls names, pics etc? fuck off.
It was not my photo. Name was correct, but photo was not.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Possessed on Monday, October 14, 2013, 01:44:56 AM
It was not my photo. Name was correct, but photo was not.
I no :) ur sexy.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: zoxee on Monday, October 14, 2013, 06:24:19 AM
This is never going to end, unless we ask those simple questions to Pit & Hertz once and for all :

1. What do you really want / trying to achieve in here ?
2. What would it take to see you both become normal members who care for this game ?

Maybe if they honestly answered those questions, we could resolve this issue.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: alechko1 on Monday, October 14, 2013, 06:57:29 AM
This is never going to end, unless we ask those simple questions to Pit & Hertz once and for all :

1. What do you really want / trying to achieve in here ?
2. What would it take to see you both become normal members who care for this game ?

Maybe if they honestly answered those questions, we could resolve this issue.

Give me some of that stuff you smoking there too pls :weed:
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Monday, October 14, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
Well I think it would be a good start indeed
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Bart! on Monday, October 14, 2013, 08:51:07 AM
This is never going to end, unless we ask those simple questions to Pit & Hertz once and for all :

1. What do you really want / trying to achieve in here ?
2. What would it take to see you both become normal members who care for this game ?

Maybe if they honestly answered those questions, we could resolve this issue.
ah, finally someone who thought about it :)
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Vanoke on Monday, October 14, 2013, 15:10:10 PM
zoxee :up: it wood be nice!!
but I think ther is already to muts happend that you don `t have to call the medic!
Accept the situation is the problem for Pitt  ( how is Hertz?) sorry i don t know you.


This is never going to end, unless we ask those simple questions to Pit & Hertz once and for all :

1. What do you really want / trying to achieve in here ?
2. What would it take to see you both become normal members who care for this game ?

Maybe if they honestly answered those questions, we could resolve this issue.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, October 14, 2013, 16:08:04 PM
After chatting in Ts this weekend, had a good conversation with someone, got a better grip on things now,  far as this topic delete it please
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: alechko1 on Monday, October 14, 2013, 16:39:35 PM
Good call
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Koden on Monday, October 14, 2013, 16:59:17 PM
It's much more useful and worthy to get the positive side out of every thing you come across, if you can be that open...which doesn't mean being assertive.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, October 14, 2013, 20:03:13 PM
Release Pit.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: zoxee on Monday, October 14, 2013, 20:51:08 PM
Release Pit.

New love ?
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: M_TopSecret on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 02:53:06 AM
My two cents, worth actually more like half a cent but still... Those who don't even play this game, wtf are they still here on the forum, get rid of them, then lets work on what we have in front of us as a community.

Though it's not much, but it's still a step in the positive. What can these people contribute other than their bullshit? I've seen no one contribute anything even worthy of repeating. So my thought... Shhhhhh Rap, is to get rid of those who don't even contribute a body count to this game, screw it! Or make it so they can only post in forum that states, "Doesn't play 2.5 anymore" Then we'll know that what they have to say isn't worth half the effort it is to even read it.

Someone stated before that this community is all we have, so lets make it work, lets be nice to each other and help each other, I think this is a good move. We should all help each other so we can all enjoy the game, cause that's all that matters right? The enjoyment of the game, so why can't we all enjoy it together as a team and help build this project instead of trying to find ways to drag it down. If you have a problem with the way something is handled, then by all means, find a way to make it better before you start a topic talking shit about it. Anyone can do that, we can all talk shit I'm sure of it, but those who can actually help or contribute an idea, then maybe we can make this shit work, if not we're all doomed.

I wished the admins would look at some suggestions with an open mind, don't reply right away, just let it sit in and think of the potential outcomes. Imagine how certain things might go down without jumping straight to what is currently in motion as law. I'm not talking shit about how things are done, honestly I could care less, I play and have fun. But there's always room for improvement and I'm sure you all can agree. Just don't take some suggestions as a dig against something you've done, or that what you've created is shit or that it sucks. Like I said anything can be improved upon,  no mater how much time you've put into something, it can still be improved do you not agree? So my thought is to just be open, even though you guys have the final and last say, maybe ponder it for a while, sleep on it before you reply on it. Let us all work together because we're all after the same thing, at least the majority of us are, we all want this to succeed and last forever, because if it doesn't then we have to move on. 

Anyways, negative internetz are welcome, que sera sera.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: zoxee on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 05:21:38 AM
Those who don't even play this game...get rid of them
so they can only post in forum that states, "Doesn't play 2.5 anymore"

and then

lets be nice to each other...help each other...enjoy it together

I think you are being pretty sectarian and rude to all people who play this game since years
by ostracizing them and proposing to deport them to "concentration forums"..
It's not because you are in an active gaming phase that you have the right to decide who
is good enough to play / contribute to this game or not.
You were right indeed, your statement is pretty overrated, i wouldn't even take it for free  :mad:

By the way, if
this community is all we have
then i'm sorry & sad for you...
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 05:36:51 AM
He is right actually. Too many people on the forums who are not playing the game anymore.
Anymore means that they won't play again ...  so I don't understand what they are still doing here, if they are not contributing to anything.
Unfortunately, there is nothing to do about it, they ain't gonna get banned because they don't play AA anymore, but it's sad that only 1 out of 10 active forum users still plays the game
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: krIz+ on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 05:45:59 AM
so I don't understand what they are still doing here, if they are not contributing to anything.
Unfortunately, there is nothing to do about it, they ain't gonna get banned because they don't play AA anymore, but it's sad that only 1 out of 10 active forum users still plays the game
yea right, ban all the people who doesnt play this game. I contributed much more than you ever have.

I folow this forum out of curiosity, where the game going to, activity is dead like always. and yea i wont install aa again
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: noobslayer on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 05:47:11 AM
If all the people who stopped playing werent active on this forum it would be dead!
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Dialects on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 05:49:36 AM
Matter of the fact is, online communities will forever consist of good/well-intentioned people and bad/instigative people. This one does...just as much as the next and the one that came before it did. Truth be said, out of all the America's Army communities that lived thus far, AAO25 probably is categorised as the least dramatic and chaotic.

In idea, for a community to feel as though odd-calamities, queers and drama-queens are a non-consistent part of it and have no objective place of importance in its consolidation, a strong foundation is necessary. A foundation that starts with the way people behave in the forum, to how strict rules may be, to how they are enforced by Moderators and/or Administrators; essentially, it is all a matter of keeping the equilibrium between all the aforementioned --but not exclusive to-- conditioners.



On-Topic:
I've kept myself somewhat updated on what has happened with this community over time through the occasional (almost daily, however!) lurk as guest. However factually horrendous as Pit's & Hertz's actions may have been, I believe in the general consensus that censorship as a principle is prone to aggravate humanitarian values towards becoming constraining and elitist to a certain extent; therefore subscribing that their ban should be lifted as such.

Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 06:01:27 AM
yea right, ban all the people who doesnt play this game. I contributed much more than you ever have.

I folow this forum out of curiosity, where the game going to, activity is dead like always. and yea i wont install aa again

Don't be on the defensive like that, and read again. I'm talking about people who contribute to nothing on the forums, and you just said you did, so why are you feeling attacked? I might not contribute a lot on the forums, but I play the game, so it's normal to look around for updates and stuff.
And if you read carefully, you can read 'we ain't gonna ban', which means what it means, so why are you saying I want you banned ...

If all the people who stopped playing werent active on this forum it would be dead!

Ridiculous statement. What's the difference between a dead forum, and a forum of AA where none of his members play the game anymore. This isn't a social network ... It's like saying 'don't ban hackers of the game, because we will have fewer players and the game will die'

And by the way it won't be 'dead'. It will be used for important information like updates/changes etc.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 06:45:31 AM
let them stay - those who dosn't want them should ignore all post written by one of them. not every post must be commented i guess, right? - and the world is already enough full of bans and forbidden things. keep them, hopefully they may change things in a good way. why not.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Bart! on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 07:07:35 AM
another thing is, I'm not defending pit here but he did mention somethings sometimes where he was right, yet people flamed him because it was pit.

It's not only him who is being bad.
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 09:24:32 AM
New love ?

If I have to choose:

- Smart Pit
- Stupid Kari

the choice is easy.

another thing is, I'm not defending pit here but he did mention somethings sometimes where he was right, yet people flamed him because it was pit.

It's not only him who is being bad.

Hooah Vanoke!
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Bart! on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 10:26:50 AM
hooah!
Title: Re: REMOVAL OF PIT AND HERTZ
Post by: Petrol on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:45:59 AM
Hooyah!