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Title: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 10:25:10 AM
203 dropshots used to be part of Insurgent Camp and I personally miss them very much. I know some people dont like spamming, but some like or at least accept it.

Now I would like to know how many would like them or even allow them with a condition, and also that would it be possible for the assist developers to re-enable it?

Edit: I think its fair that those who dont like dropshots, can disable them in assist manager.. but I think its unfair I cannot enable them with my server.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 10:41:58 AM
This game is going nuts. People can't rely on their ai anymore.

Dropshots on Insurgent Camp would be way too easy for defence, that has already a big advantage
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 11:25:44 AM
Well, dropshots didnt cause problems when they existed. And I think it should be server admin who decides if they want it or not.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 11:34:23 AM
It's a question of map design. I suppose the map "ceiling" would have to a lot higher.

With that said, I don't really see how this would add to the game/map.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 11:40:09 AM
Its interesting how it was taken away from different maps. For example Pipeline has invisible wall on the rooftop, and in IC, 203 nade doesnt sound nor look like blowing up but kind of disappears. Oh good old times when it was possible to dropshoot both in pipe and ic..
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
It's a question of map design. I suppose the map "ceiling" would have to a lot higher.

With that said, I don't really see how this would add to the game/map.

Well assault wouldnt have any cover at all. Now they can take their time and wait a bit behind hills, but if you know one dropshot behind every hill of the map, I don't see how assault can win ? All they could do is rush to the doors as fast as they can.

Clearly the idea of adding dropshots is coming from a defence-player since this wouln't add any advantage for assault.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 12:07:59 PM
I play 99% in assault team in IC. I cant do much if I play def ^^
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 13:26:45 PM
I play 99% in assault team in IC. I cant do much if I play def ^^

Why do you want dropshots then?
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 13:32:49 PM
Because of that one percent playing def, and because of those people who have told me they wish it would still exist and because ofthe dropshot into that broken room through that hole, and to south staircase ^^ dropshots are awesome :) I like to practise for them and then know them.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 14:28:45 PM
Because of that one percent playing def, and because of those people who have told me they wish it would still exist and because ofthe dropshot into that broken room through that hole, and to south staircase ^^ dropshots are awesome :) I like to practise for them and then know them.

Making a poll, not for yourself, but for others, sure ;)
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 14:34:36 PM
Of course for myself also ^^ but because Ive heard others opinions about it also, it gave some more motivation for this. Also I remember those old timers long time ago who were disappointed with devs who disabled the dropshots (as well as they changed the power of nades to be about the same than some new year rockets.)
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 14:44:08 PM
Well my advice is: Don't change a map that's already much easier on one side, to the favor of the easier side itself
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: JunK on Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 17:51:35 PM
Keep the game how it was, thats my opinion
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 00:57:26 AM
I seriously doubt you'd ever hit the south stairwell with a dropshot in a live game... The 203 just isn't that accurate and even if it were, there's nothing to "aim for" to make it happen.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 02:15:41 AM
Some people knew that shot. Of course it failed many times, usually because of those boards. I knew only dropshots to center roof and rooftop, have forgotten everything since it was so long time ago and I used compass as help also.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: ronski on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 02:32:49 AM
Some might say this is just a game, but imagine the scenario in real life battleground: "If I aim to the moon, to third crater from left side of it, while I stand exactly at this point, this dropshot will go inside the building through the hole that is in the roof" :style:

Don't know where you'd need to be aiming at but I assume it's something up in the sky.

What comes to those dropshots and G in general - I hate them. Goes to the same category as flashes: use them if you have no balls ;)
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Pipez0r on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 02:57:20 AM
I think this is the same than re-enabling rpg or 203 in hosp. It is something what was part of the game and removed, and ppl asking to give it back.

I hate rpg spam in hosp, but I dont complain as spam is part of the game.
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 06:16:12 AM
I think this is the same than re-enabling rpg or 203 in hosp. It is something what was part of the game and removed, and ppl asking to give it back.

I hate rpg spam in hosp, but I dont complain as spam is part of the game.

And RPG on Hospital is beneficial for both teams.

It's like saying "let's make the VIP green instead of red". That brings advantage to a side that has alrady an advantage, it doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: Scorpy on Thursday, December 17, 2015, 06:58:24 AM
the green vip....horror   :o
Title: Re: Re-enable 203 dropshots in Insurgent Camp
Post by: JunK on Saturday, December 26, 2015, 05:31:53 AM
Or make a yellow vip like on dusk :D