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Assist => Feedback & Suggestions => Topic started by: Leopardi on Monday, March 24, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
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Why did you do this? It looks stupid when you have guys running in summer gear and summer hats in SF pipeline. And when you die the body suddenly transforms into the correct snow uniform with snow helmets.
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It's been talked about before but I'll distill it for you;
The US Army has 1 type of camo, for budgetary reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform)
All that was done is the camo was updated in-game to the version used in 2.8.5, which is more modern. The death uniform is an unavoidable bug where the original camo overrides the mod which forces the updated camo.
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It's been talked about before but I'll distill it for you;
The US Army has 1 type of camo, for budgetary reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform)
All that was done is the camo was updated in-game to the version used in 2.8.5, which is more modern. The death uniform is an unavoidable bug where the original camo overrides the mod which forces the updated camo.
But the US army uses snow camo on top of it, that's why the UCP pattern looks retarded in snow maps and the snow camo was retained in 2.8.5. And on top of that the SF playermodel includes the boonie hat for hot/tropical conditions which makes it look incredibly stupid.
Heck even the UCP is being replaced with the multicam pattern for desert/summer conditions so it's not even modern in that sense... might as well just revert the proper player models without death bugs (which look much sexier even :P)
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I researched all I could and couldn't find anything other than the standard ACU for US Army. For the Marines, it's totally different, they got MARPAT which has something like half a dozen different varieties.
I could be wrong but I believe the "attachments" such as hats, glasses and other things are randomized by the mod and assigned on round start.
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Did a quick Google search and supposedly they wear their Parka snow camo on top of the regular ACU suits. See page 31 link http://www.wainwright.army.mil/nwtc/Classes/Winter_Packing_List_Picture_Book_Mar_2013.pdf (http://www.wainwright.army.mil/nwtc/Classes/Winter_Packing_List_Picture_Book_Mar_2013.pdf)
So yes the camo in snow environments differs from dessert environments. But anyways, the damage is done so just leave the new suits in the snow maps.
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Interesting. I could still argue that our guys in AA just forgot to pack their snow parkas :)
We could also talk about players cheating the system's texture settings to make enemy more visible by blurring the camo patterns or their surroundings to enable a contrast.
Also, it's not like camo actually ever played a role in AA. The jittery non-fluid movement animations give you away much sooner than the lack of realism in the camo.
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Anyway the Army model won't affect OpFor's models.
- Spanky came to aao25, see ppl complaining. Spanky will forget this site for the next 3 weeks lol.
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I researched all I could and couldn't find anything other than the standard ACU for US Army. For the Marines, it's totally different, they got MARPAT which has something like half a dozen different varieties.
I could be wrong but I believe the "attachments" such as hats, glasses and other things are randomized by the mod and assigned on round start.
If you go to militaryphotos.net searching afghanistan pics or watch afghanistan videos, you won't see any new pictures or videos from the last couple of years with anything other than the new multicam pattern. They started appearing already in Iraq in 2011, when they were pulling out.
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Be quiet Leopardi, the new models are great, I like them (and most players do).
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Poll has been made, you can cast your vote in the Client, under the Polls Tab.
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Poll has been made, you can cast your vote in the Client, under the Polls Tab.
It should be a client option if possible and everyone is happy. Especially if it's not possible to get rid of the summer winter uniforms, in particular the SF soldiers look like clowns with the boonie summer hats.
And bug free experience would be bug free, the switching bodies do break immersion.
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till when is this poll running Eliz?
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till when is this poll running Eliz?
I think 8 more days(From now) was the limit I set.
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It should be a client option if possible and everyone is happy. Especially if it's not possible to get rid of the summer winter uniforms, in particular the SF soldiers look like clowns with the boonie summer hats.
And bug free experience would be bug free, the switching bodies do break immersion.
It's not about "everyone is happy". It's about "assist admins know the shit and rule". Learn it dude.
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i dont think people realize, whats about in the poll.
its like asking: hey guys, do u want something new instead of old? of course...
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its like asking: hey guys, do u want something new instead of old? of course...
People on AA tend to be conservatists, so i'd say of course not :D
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i dont think people realize, whats about in the poll.
its like asking: hey guys, do u want something new instead of old? of course...
How can people not realize what the poll is about? The poll is extremely straight forward. Do you think we should keep the new uniforms or not? That's about as straight forward as you can get.
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there are a lot of aspects in this matter, otherwise we wouldnt discuss it again. only ur straight forward question wont help ppl to make a fair vote. i think a bit more information should be provided and a link to the discussion.
otherwise it could be some of ganja's conservative populism going on. :style:
sry i'm from switzerland, we have direct democracy. i'm an expert in voting... :D
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there are a lot of aspects in this matter, otherwise we wouldnt discuss it again. only ur straight forward question wont help ppl to make a fair vote. i think a bit more information should be provided
Like what? The topic is simple. Do they want to keep the new uniforms that were put in the game or not What other aspects do they need? Do you just want to try to convince them to not like the uniforms?
They're playing the game with the uniforms, they know everything there is to know about how they work right now (sometimes disappearing and stuff) what more do they need to know?
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what more do they need to know?
Into what it might change if there are enough votes?
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Result of poll
Should we keep the ''New'' ACU uniforms?
Yes 214 (85.9%)
No 35 (14.1%)
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Thats a easy winner for yes with 85%
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I actually voted No myself, but will respect the vote.
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Like what? The topic is simple. Do they want to keep the new uniforms that were put in the game or not What other aspects do they need? Do you just want to try to convince them to not like the uniforms?
They're playing the game with the uniforms, they know everything there is to know about how they work right now (sometimes disappearing and stuff) what more do they need to know?
i think that only a few come here to these forums and read background information. there are also ppl that are new to the game. so u could provide it together with the poll to make people think and balance reasons before they vote.
for example why u even made the change, the history behind it. mapspecific pictures how it was before and how it looks now, with the critical aspects of snow maps, which was discussed here. u could mention the bugs, which came with.
information provides a fair vote, otherwise i assume u just want one kind of answers.
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Wouldnt be the first time the US army sanctioned the wrong camo gear to it's troops. Or any army for that matter. It doesn't really matter tbh, it's easier to spot friendlies with this camo but im with Eliz on this one.
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I actually voted No myself, but will respect the vote.
Do the option then. It's far too much of a chewing gum solution to be left as it is, if it can't be at least improved then an option is a must.
And of course there is the fact that many players would like the authentic 2.5 experience just like it was, if it is possible to make why the hell not give the option for us?
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While some people might want the 'authentic 2.5 experiene', it is probably not the majority. There have been numerous polls asking whether people want a change (such as shorter flash times for example) and the devs here have gone with the majority. Therefore the majority has wanted a change towards 2.8.5 style gameplay instead of the "authentic 2.5 experience".
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While some people might want the 'authentic 2.5 experiene', it is probably not the majority. There have been numerous polls asking whether people want a change (such as shorter flash times for example) and the devs here have gone with the majority. Therefore the majority has wanted a change towards 2.8.5 style gameplay instead of the "authentic 2.5 experience".
Even if its not the majority. why not just add the option if its possible? And if people want 2.8.5, why are the flashes still nuclear flashes from 2.5?
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They're not. Flash times are twice as short as they were in the original 2.5 (don't quote me on the exact amount, it's somewhere in these here forums, I can't be bothered to look for them though).
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Even if its not the majority. why not just add the option if its possible? And if people want 2.8.5, why are the flashes still nuclear flashes from 2.5?
Turn your back to a flash and it won't even affect you more than 2 seconds
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They're not. Flash times are twice as short as they were in the original 2.5 (don't quote me on the exact amount, it's somewhere in these here forums, I can't be bothered to look for them though).
Not by long shot, theyre still nuclear compared to 2.8.5 in outside.
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They're set to the exact same time they were set to on 2.8.5. The only difference is that in this version of the game, they work the same outside as they do inside, whereas on 2.8.5 the flashes had next to no effect outside.
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They're set to the exact same time they were set to on 2.8.5. The only difference is that in this version of the game, they work the same outside as they do inside, whereas on 2.8.5 the flashes had next to no effect outside.
Yeah and that was the biggest change that actually made an impact on them.
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Not really. The time was cut down to about half outside as well.
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Not really. The time was cut down to about half outside as well.
Doesn't matter, its still so long its super OP. You just throw it in the air and suddenly everyone in 5 mile radius become blind for an eternity, no hurry just slowly walk up to the enemy and shoot them in the head one by one.
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Doesn't matter, its still so long its super OP. You just throw it in the air and suddenly everyone in 5 mile radius become blind for an eternity, no hurry just slowly walk up to the enemy and shoot them in the head one by one.
A decent player will run away if you throw a flash randomly in the air. The increased distance + turning your back on it will significantly reduce the effect, sometimes to a point where you can still see. Also, indoors there's usually a corner to hide behind if you here a flash coming.
What I'm trying to say is that if you know what to look for, flashes aren't too overpowered. Only players who don't know how to avoid getting flashed complain about them and it's just rubbish imho.
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Ok teddy :-D
Im a noob and I hate flashes! Same for 203! Smoke sucks also, cant see a thing! Oh and I hate teamkillers!
Get rid of them pleaseeeeeee
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Don't laugh at me, you'll make ne drink even more :)
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Boo than give me a box of tissues for all my crying please?
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I'm a lowly college student, I don't have money for fancy stuff like tissues :)
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Ok than im trying to feel sad without crying.... my life sucks
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Back on topic; why not do the option if it's possible?