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Offline ELiZ

New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« on: Monday, December 21, 2015, 10:28:41 AM »
We have now starting planning the next major release of the 25Assist Client.

One of the real big changes is that we will go from Realbasic 2011r1.1 ro Xojo2015(same product, different name), but it's still several major releases between the two version, so it might be some major work to get it done.

we can use this topic to post questions, and you uses can post requests.

First off:

I'm never been a Mac guy, so hopefully someone can tell me this:
Anyone know if this affects non-intel macs carbon/Cocoa, is that a Xojo thing, or is it a Mac Thing?
http://blog.xojo.com/2014/07/10/the_end_of_carbon_support/

Second:
Do we have any non-intel mac users here?


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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #1 on: Monday, December 21, 2015, 12:18:57 PM »
Can you explain what the inpact is for the player and the server holders eliz.

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #2 on: Monday, December 21, 2015, 12:49:25 PM »
Can you explain what the inpact is for the player and the server holders eliz.

No, that is because this is the pre planning stage, nothing really has been decided, beside going up in version the compiler is(Xojo)

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 02:14:43 AM »
We have now starting planning the next major release of the 25Assist Client.

One of the real big changes is that we will go from Realbasic 2011r1.1 ro Xojo2015(same product, different name), but it's still several major releases between the two version, so it might be some major work to get it done.

we can use this topic to post questions, and you uses can post requests.

First off:

I'm never been a Mac guy, so hopefully someone can tell me this:
Anyone know if this affects non-intel macs carbon/Cocoa, is that a Xojo thing, or is it a Mac Thing?
http://blog.xojo.com/2014/07/10/the_end_of_carbon_support/

Second:
Do we have any non-intel mac users here?
Im glad to hear about planned updates :up:

Dunno about non-intel macs or their users, aren't you able to check if mac user is running intel or not? If I've understood it right you are able to see if user has mac or not. Non-intel-mac is running different kind of app than intel-macs so you should be able to get some statistics out of it? Or maybe the question was more pointed for forum users if there are any around :)

If you need any help in testing out intel-mac related stuff, let me know.

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 10:09:43 AM »
while I was writing my previous post I got more and more certain that the question was if any of forum users are using non-intel-mac so they could tell about their experiences and could answer to the other question which was set above, like you said, only small group of players are using the forum.

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 11:29:03 AM »
It's not the first time I observe this annoying attitude of "let's discuss matters in our tiny forum community, take conclusions from it and extrapolate it to the whole player base".

Why is that so? He simply asked for someone using an old powerpc powered mac...

Offline ELiZ

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #6 on: Friday, December 25, 2015, 07:33:37 AM »
Dare to explain, why the fkn thing is scanning some stupid sound/mesh/texture/briefing/etc. files every few runs? You don't expect to find dangerous cheats embedded in textures, do you?

Just because you are unable to add code to the packages does not mean that it's not possible.
I know how to do it and how to execute whatever I add at will, even as a normal player. A unreal package file can contain any class, regardless of what file extension it has.

25Assist runs two types of file scans. A slow one and a fast one.
It's not only used to verify the files, it's also a part of the auto update function.

The slow one runs at first startup, and when it thinks something has changed. Takes ~25 seconds for me, and during the scan it's locked on the siterep tab.
The fast one takes ~5 seconds for me, without locking the interface in any way


But it sound that it runs too often on your computer, can you provide answers the two following questions?

Does it show this picture when you see the slow scan?


When it does the slow version, how long does it take?
« Last Edit: Friday, December 25, 2015, 07:35:45 AM by ELiZ »

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #7 on: Friday, December 25, 2015, 07:43:03 AM »
ELiZ, the part with the auth server - i mean the instability - should be also on focus. in the near past, it happend often that players have been kicked out with the message "...slot closed". all together within 5 seconds. a full server was empty after this.

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #8 on: Friday, December 25, 2015, 07:50:58 AM »
and this i would like to have (dont forget, its x-mas time today ;) :
- side swap in the middle of a match (12 rounds - side swap after 6 rounds)
- spam protection: variable for time of the ban duration as well as the count (5 so far) to get a kick
- try to fix the critical while changing a map (happend from time to time, dont know why)
- if you could bring in a "revive" for dead people - only once each match, not more
- and not needed, but maybe you can have a look at: speed up the parameters like tickrate, lanspeed... and those other parameters. they are old and aa4 did change them to its today needs

thanks for asking.

Offline Scorpy

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #9 on: Friday, December 25, 2015, 15:29:39 PM »
your pc suks, get a new 1  :idea:

Offline Scorpy

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #10 on: Friday, December 25, 2015, 15:33:58 PM »
its not a problem on my pc, so u go get a new 1  :style:

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #11 on: Monday, December 28, 2015, 11:11:25 AM »
as always, please point to the threads target.

- maybe the main assist menu could be a bit bigger in future. to have more space for server names and others.

Offline Alex

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #12 on: Monday, December 28, 2015, 17:09:52 PM »
Actually I happen to stand up for some of your decisions. Every day I play on hosp, I hear people saying "who was the idiot that introduced rpg here?!?". And every time I hear it, I patiently keep explaining to them: "Calm down, it's not some 'idiot' who did it. It was Eliz, and she knew what she was doing".

I actually added the RPG back to Hospital after the poll so go ahead and insult me, not Eliz. Or did you get bored of doing that?

And maybe u start fixing obvious race bugs in gui? Like unability to right-click on a player in playerlist?

I could list those stupid bugs here for long, but they are all ignored, so what's the point?

But yeah, go make your BIG UPGRADE to 9.0.0.0.0, lol.

BTW, funny how you consider switching from realbasic to realbasic a "major work to get it done."

Tiny bugs that don't harm the application aren't high priority. Eliz has a job and a real life apparently unlike you as you spend your time bitching here. I find it funny that you of all people are complaining about no fixes being made. I seem to remember a certain admin that never released a single fix/update for Assist despite all of the posts claiming he was going to. He even claimed he would rewrite Assist in a better language if you can imagine that.
« Last Edit: Monday, December 28, 2015, 17:12:30 PM by KiLLaMaN »

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Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 00:17:27 AM »
I actually added the RPG back to Hospital

So since polls are done regarding 203's , will that be added back as well???

Offline ELiZ

Re: New major version of 25Assist(9.0.0) - Preplanning stage has begun
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 09:32:04 AM »
So since polls are done regarding 203's , will that be added back as well???

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