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Offline General_alkos

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #15 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 12:14:42 PM »
What do you know about unwanted insults that are not justified?!
By writing about insults I see that you haven't watched shotbox for a long time..

Where were you before to see the person in question insulting and what he writes..
Disciplinary action haha, we are not in communism anymore lol!!!
Assist admins should know something and all players should respect them for their reputation, behavior, etc., not just choose who likes which player so they can be an assist admin..lol

I will not expand the topic on unnecessary nonsense..
We don't need new assist admins who don't know anything about programming, improving aa2!
We have enough assist admins for what we need!

P.S
Respect to you too but don't think too much
« Last Edit: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 12:23:20 PM by General_alkos »

Offline !The_Engineer!

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #16 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 14:59:21 PM »
To answer Hpye's original question, I don't think any precise rules are needed.

Be kind to each other and respectful as you would want to be treated. Joke around but understand there may be consequence if you repeatedly go to far and this community finds what you are doing as offensive. You all know what is socially acceptable and don't act like you don't. Act like you would as if you were in front of that person. Know when you cross the line and be man or woman enough to say sorry when you do or think you did. 

This should not be that difficult to follow.
« Last Edit: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 16:05:29 PM by !The_Engineer! »

Offline Bart!

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #17 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 15:34:56 PM »
I was away for some time, but back again. Some travel for work lately made me not being able to be online a lot.

I can be short: the points that teddy wrote are right, we could make something like this.
On the other hands, there is only one! case of someone banned due to this behaviour after several warnings.

Next to that, I agree with Engineer. Common sense in how to behave and act towards others like you would want to be threated already helps a lot.

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Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #18 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 16:36:23 PM »
Admins, if you're going to use your own discretion to just ban people from the client, not everyone in the community is going to view punishments as being fair. The easiest way to go about this is to stop banning anyone (other than cheating) and let server admins decide what to do. This was the way it was done with the live version of AA.

If it's too much of an ask for you to restrict some of your power, can you please develop a set of rules for the game itself? Currently, there is no consistent basis for how you ban anyone outside of cheating.

Example: Bumpy consistently uses racial slurs and is extremely disrespectful to many people, yet no action is ever taken against him and his 10 accounts. On the flip side, joe gets banned for using a real name, even though the person who had their name used said to unban him. This can be seen as playing favorites.

Edit: And since joe is such a controversial subject, even without using him as an example the issue of using admin discretion is still present. If you're going to ban for speech, provide a set of rules so there is a clear delineation of what is allowed or restricted.



I retract what I just said before 

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« Last Edit: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 17:05:54 PM by ~=W!CK!D=~ »

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Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #19 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 16:52:06 PM »
To answer Hpye's original question, I don't think any precise rules are needed.

Be kind to each other and respectful as you would want to be treated. Joke around but understand there may be consequence if you repeatedly go to far and this community finds what you are doing as offensive. You all know what is socially acceptable and don't act like you don't. Act like you would as if you were in front of that person. Know when you cross the line and be man or woman enough to say sorry when you do or think you did. 

This should not be that difficult to follow.
I think this sentiment is correct. But there is nuance that a lot of people seem to miss.

Like I've said before, we're an international community. And as such, many have different cultural backgrounds. Which means different tolerances for certain activities. I don't think anyone is saying you can't joke around with your friends / people you know. I'm pretty sure I call Bart a hacker every time I see him online - I know he can take it :) ! But I don't do that with people I don't know.

I guess the TLDR would be: don't assume that other people have the same tolerance for "trash talk".

PS: What do you do when you assume?
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Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #20 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 17:15:28 PM »
I think this sentiment is correct. But there is nuance that a lot of people seem to miss.

Like I've said before, we're an international community. And as such, many have different cultural backgrounds. Which means different tolerances for certain activities. I don't think anyone is saying you can't joke around with your friends / people you know. I'm pretty sure I call Bart a hacker every time I see him online - I know he can take it :) ! But I don't do that with people I don't know.

I guess the TLDR would be: don't assume that other people have the same tolerance for "trash talk".

PS: What do you do when you assume?

It's the people that trash talk that don't like it when shit is talked back.

Every one talks shit in game, if they say different there full of shit..........

O btw calling RPG "s Chinese Rockets that's racist roflmfao, some are not made to play this game .....


Offline !The_Engineer!

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #21 on: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 17:17:29 PM »
"You make an ass out of you and me"

Classic Odd couple scene when Felix is questioning the witness

« Last Edit: Thursday, February 27, 2025, 17:21:28 PM by !The_Engineer! »

Offline Alex

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #22 on: Friday, February 28, 2025, 03:56:25 AM »
You use shoutbox as an example, yet the same person I mentioned (bumpy) talks shit in there, and numerous people have previously posted in that shoutbox what he has said in-game. Where's the concern on that one?

I used a recent and controversial ban as an example. Additionally, you both casually omitted the part where the "victim" said joe didn't need to be banned.
Then show us. If we've missed something bad by all means call us out. We can only act on what we actively see and we can't see everything. You should absolutely expect us to do better just as we expect everyone to be better. This isn't some us vs them, we're all AA players and we all want this community to thrive.
On another note, we don't give a fuck if the "victim" says a player should be unbanned. We observe behavior and act accordingly.
It's especially troubling when I received many complaints from the victim and now all of a sudden they want to walk is all back? Nah. We looked at the behavior and decided it was worth a ban. We also discussed a second chance but his antics in the shoutbox made it apparent he hasn't changed.
« Last Edit: Friday, February 28, 2025, 03:59:26 AM by Alex »

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Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #23 on: Friday, February 28, 2025, 13:48:16 PM »
 we don't give a fuck if the "victim" says a player should be unbanned.
If you read my comment ! This is what I said ..
I really don't thing you are . Your just dying to come back and cause more problems.  How can someone so rude change ? Me personally I would never have you back . You made my game play so uncomfortable. Since you been gone , I'm doing much better not having someone call me pathetic.  But it's not up to me . And a lot of people really don't like you . Sorry.  I forgive you,  Because I'm a real good person. And it's a game . So whatever.
So please a liittle respect  !! I Also said . Unban him in the shout box . If you do ! Gunman and Play have admins . So they can ban him form the servers ... I hate BS .

Offline TomHighway64

Re: Ban Standardization
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, March 05, 2025, 10:17:42 AM »
I havnt been able to play much of late and my gaming is during early evening and not late Uk time as I like to sleep for another days work!
That aside I cant really see what the issue is apart from the continued baiting and insult throwing on the Shoutbox . Its a very small minority but surely they can be removed from the Box and then the servers by Admin , Maybe just ignore them or have Admin programe a block function into the game chat that allows players to block words communicated  by selected others from a list > Cant be too hard to do?
Anyway peace and Love And PIPELINE is the Only Map to PLay on Heartbreak Ridge , No map changes , No whining , It is what is is .

 

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