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Title: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 20:15:43 PM
As you might know, we are recreating the AA3 maps to be played in 25Assist.
Some of the decisions regarding the maps will be made by you the players.

So to start off, cast your vote on what type of objective type you want for the recreated AA3_Bridge:

Assault:
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faa3.americasarmy.com%2Fimg%2FBridge_Assault_BIG.jpg&hash=83b1c51e58084630ccb8f176824f94ac)

Classic
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faa3.americasarmy.com%2Fimg%2FBridge_Classic_BIG.jpg&hash=5246fe1dc64c5f29ca1161a95fc45b44)

Extraction
(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faa3.americasarmy.com%2Fimg%2FBridge_Extraction_BIG.jpg&hash=06f1e3287acbb290ea032d28a630557a)
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: ELiZ on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 20:32:39 PM
Here is what the AA3_Bridge map looks now.

Still lot of work to be done, but I think it's coming along nicely...

[youtube]UiYStVfqgP0[/youtube]
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 20:39:24 PM
I haven't played a lot of bridge on AA3 but i certainly prefer classic or assault
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 22:06:21 PM
huge map o.o and that music lol good work ELiZ
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: ELiZ on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 22:11:08 PM
I think I would prefer the type Assault.

Classic is  really favoring defense, just as the old classing Bridge Crossing itself.
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, October 13, 2013, 22:35:02 PM
Exactly ELiZ, I would like to see it more balanced where both teams are encouraged to Assault and have strategy instead of just camp and win.
Title: Re: AA3_Bridge - What mission Mission Type do YOU want?
Post by: Rapture on Monday, October 14, 2013, 01:22:43 AM
I think I would prefer the type Assault.

Classic is  really favoring defense, just as the old classing Bridge Crossing itself.

i also agree with this
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Ganja on Monday, October 14, 2013, 04:18:36 AM
I don't get the first picture. One team spawn in the middle of the bridge, just in front of the objective? Or I read it wrong?
Anyway I would rather say no extraction
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, October 14, 2013, 05:37:17 AM
I don't get the first picture. One team spawn in the middle of the bridge, just in front of the objective? Or I read it wrong?
Anyway I would rather say no extraction

In the middle its objectives, both teams spawn at their side as usual.
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Vanoke on Monday, October 14, 2013, 14:27:35 PM
Assault is the way I see one of the best situation to play the game , but if its possible think about this setting
I think it would be better if  the defenders  3-3 on both sides of the bridge so you can start the battle  in the village. now you create a defence spot around the tower. And whit this setting defenders can choose if they run to the tower ore make it assault  already difficult in village.

Assault can slip trow ore around the defence line and go to tower. but you do not know what you can find there is the extration point whit ore whitout defence players. 

And a little more obstacles on the bridge if possible its to open in my opinion!

Negatieve point of setting of Assault like you described in above picture :
If you led defence players on the tower they must wait there till assault is comming on bridge (Its not actieve the guys that start on both sites of bridge they have the best of the game) they kill the assault and the guys in tower diddent see nobuddy!!!!!!!!! :oops:
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Dialects on Monday, October 14, 2013, 18:58:27 PM
Extraction seems a befitting choice...with slight changes:

I'd prefer a more challenging gameplay to be enforced by making it so that, in order to win, either team would have to:

- Reach objective (Z, placed in the Roof/Centre Bridge)
- Retrieve objective back to the team's spawn area.

As opposed to reaching the objective an carrying it all the way to the opponent's spawn area. This would provide greater dynamism to the gameplay as both teams would be forced to deploy assault and defence strategies. Each team would consist of two squads: Assault Squad & Defence Squad. In-depth explanation follows:

ASSAULT SQUAD
Objective:
Retrieve and extract objective.
Available Slots:
- Captain (R)
- Rifleman (R)
- Heavy Rifleman (AR)
- Rifleman + Medic (R)

DEFENCE SQUAD
Objective:
Provide support for Assault Squad and strategically apply defensive tactics to allow Assault Squad to retrieve the objective back to their spawn.
Available Slots:
- Captain (R)
- Sniper (M24)
- Sniper (M86)
- Rifleman + Medic (R)




Scenario Hypothesis:

Team A Strategical Roll-Out Hypothesis:
- Assault Squad rushes to objective (Z).
- Assault Squad is forced back due to Team B's offensive attack.
- Defensive Squad covers Assault's Squad retreat.
- Both teams re-organise.
- Assault commences again.

Essentially, this change would make it so both teams require greater organisation, communication and effectiveness in order to win. It would break Bridge off the common and generally applied grenade-launcher spawn-shots, sniper sit-and-wait defensive tactics as well as the ordinary rush-through-the-ledge-with-smoke-grenades Assaulting tactics.


That's my input.
Dan
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:02:41 AM
I've changed my mind.

I changed my vote to Extraction, seems to be the most even alternative.
Took me a couple of read-throughs to really get what 3 three  alternatives ment.
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:17:22 AM
Great expplanation Mikkawe, didn''t see it that way !
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: alechko1 on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:24:35 AM
It's all fine if everyone familiar with the objective and willing to play their roll. What is usually happens in maps where team work is needed (like SF Hospital) is that everyone just do what they want. You'll also need enough players playing at the same time
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
Looks like poll is good for idears than  we vote . ? Was it that we only gan vote for thise 3options!
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:41:44 AM
I've modified the poll, so that you change your vote if you want......
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 04:46:43 AM
I vote extraction, if it follows mikkawe's idea. Not if it's just like bridge now
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 16:15:06 PM
I stay whit my
 
1- Assault game  :up: :D
I think this is fast and actieve game!
2- Classic  :? :?
Big minus point is battle is mostly only on bridge thats way i don t play this game
3- Extraction    :shock: :mad:
Big minus point is it take to muts time you have battle on bridge and time  to get to OBJ and back to Extraction don t get kill in the begin,you must wait to long in this setting.   
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Jason on Thursday, October 17, 2013, 15:31:15 PM

I changed my vote to Extraction

most even and fair imo
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: JunK on Thursday, October 17, 2013, 16:48:35 PM
im really disappointed in the choise of the map...

man we got already a normal bridge, Bridge SE, MAAP bridge and you guys want to get the AA3 bridge to aao25? You guys don't think that we got enough bridge maps? There are happening here really weaird things with the devs of Assist...

Sorry people, its just something what was on my heart..
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, October 17, 2013, 17:01:45 PM
Turns out Eliz is a bridge fan :)
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, October 17, 2013, 17:11:59 PM
im really disappointed in the choise of the map...

man we got already a normal bridge, Bridge SE, MAAP bridge and you guys want to get the AA3 bridge to aao25? You guys don't think that we got enough bridge maps? There are happening here really weaird things with the devs of Assist...

Sorry people, its just something what was on my heart..

It's a global conversion of AA3 maps, not just Bridge. Before releasing AA3 Bridge, we could have a vote to get rid of Bridge Construction. Getting rid of it wouldn't bother me in the least. I spent a lot of time on that map but it was one of my early ones and is pretty noobish and pointless.
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Friday, October 18, 2013, 07:54:53 AM
Turns out Eliz is a bridge fan :)

:)


But as Spanky mentioned above, the goal is to add all 8 maps from AA3, it just happened to be AA3_Bridge that was first on MY mind......
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: JunK on Friday, October 18, 2013, 10:32:31 AM
ok man   :)

I hoping for some other maps of AA3 in AAO25  :style:
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: Vanoke on Friday, October 18, 2013, 16:14:13 PM
Poeple don t see this topic.
I made a   message in border to players
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, October 19, 2013, 09:18:10 AM
Looks it's going to be either Assault or Extraction.
So any of you that voted on Classic can change your vote to either of this 2 options.

If it comes to close between the 2 options, I'll, as the one doing then mapping, will make the choice.
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Saturday, October 19, 2013, 10:16:11 AM
changed to extraction :)
Title: Re: [POLL] AA3 Bridge - Select Mission Type
Post by: ELiZ on Friday, November 01, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
Extraction it is then,