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Assist => Feedback & Suggestions => Topic started by: darksoul__ on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 12:01:25 PM
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Dearest Assist Administrators,
First of all let me say that, I'm very happy, like the rest of the AA2 players, that Assist exists. So we all can enjoy this beautiful game, even after the breakpoint when 2.8.5 was terminated.
As you all can see the amount of AA2 players has been dropped quit a lot...that's because Me, and i can name alot more players, prever Modded servers. Back in they days, when 2.8.5 was active...there used to be Random, Force class, Normal and SF-servers...and they all were almost full...and i Only talk about the Bridge servers...nowadays its only normal servers only...in any map..I know we have permission to FC, but Some players don't like to join a server that is not Tracked..I on the otherhand dont care if its tracked or not, for all i care, i don't even mind if my honor points drop...But the majority want Tracked servers.. I would like to know the following:
- Why don't you guy Track Modded servers? I mean You guys don't even play the game daily like the most of us.
- What I like is it to be a quantity of server, Normal, Random, FC etc...people can than choose themself which ever server they Prefer...Just like 2.8.5, i remember when =F.F.F=, SASF and FP servers were ful, respecfully Forceclass, Random guns, and SF server...and thats only The bridge servers i talk about (Since i only played SF)..but the only problem is that you guys don't track those? Why ruining the game for the other players who prefer MODDED server...i mean can't we all have our own kind of server?
Kind Regard,
[K][K].Soul
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I think eliz could make a poll vote about getting back modded servers fully tracked and the self mods back to the game from crusade such as pick your own weapon. Because we already had two votings on 203, and when we got rid of mod tracking, most of majority was the forum users.
AA has new client,it has a poll, easy to use and would be fair to vote again. The results would be looked at and at the end of the week, the poll says it all.
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Renewal of assist is way to get what you want, becouse it would be easier when we create own tracking system. So read my topics, shar your skils and start new project.
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Renewal of assist is way to get what you want, becouse it would be easier when we create own tracking system. So read my topics, shar your skils and start new project.
Easier? Definitely not. Better controlled? Yes.
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@petrol: I do not like the 'direction' to which you're going ...
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Do you mean "Assist renowal" direction or "Game renewal"?
My main direction is to get posibilities of the future of our game.
http://aao25.com/forum/games-programming/show-us-your-skilz (http://aao25.com/forum/games-programming/show-us-your-skilz)!/
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Soul cant believe you forgot about me :) -{1st.HW}-Highland Warriors. Always a SF server on Bridge. Where I gladly banned 3000 campers and liberty takers. some of them are still here.
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So you guys would be ok with someone adding a mod that gives 10x kills?
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Soul cant believe you forgot about me :) -{1st.HW}-Highland Warriors. Always a SF server on Bridge. Where I gladly banned 3000 campers and liberty takers. some of them are still here.
Oh hey bro, no i've not forgotten you!! we had alot of fun together lol...Vegeta was also in your clan right?
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So you guys would be ok with someone adding a mod that gives 10x kills?
Who said mods about 10x kills, i dont want that, i want fun servers, with Variaty of weopons, not only normal...
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I am -{1st.HW}-Vegeta. And yes you know I am behind your post.
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Who said mods about 10x kills, i dont want that, i want fun servers, with Variaty of weopons, not only normal...
A mod is a mod, is a mod, is mod.
At the moment 25Assist, if a unauthorized mod is detected, tracking is turned off.
How else could we protect the game from mods that are directly damaging?
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Soul, you say it yourself, most players DO care about tracker.
Having a good fragrate, many kills, etc etc is cool, but what is also cool is to compare your tracker with others and see if you're better at some map, or if you have more kills etc etc.
But the problem is, if you start to track FC servers, there will be no way to compare trackers anymore since maps are completely different when you play then with different guns.
For example: Giving scoped weapons on long range map will only make it easier for defence to kick your ass. Giving AK on Pipeling will make it easier for defence since campers on the West Ladder can barely be killed (no flashes, no nades, no 203 ...). Giving M203 or GP or SF on Insurgent Camp will make it easier for Assault because there will be 13 guys spamming the windows of the building with 203's ....
Hope you understand my point. Someone that plays regular and earned his stats the normal way might also love tracker and he won't like the fact that some people have a better tracker because the play the game an easier way ...
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And saying that if a server has sf mod activated, it will not get players joining, that is just plain wrong.
I see one SF border(FC) server online right now with players on it.
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Maybe you missed the part when Soul said I only mean on bridge. Apart from that Def is always easier no matter what weapons you have. Tracker is a load on garbage loads of 100 H campers out there, that dont truly reflect 100 H I am 42 and beat most 80 H players tracked is a waste of time and is not a true relfection of a player.
Some player done there med training and might be mad that assist gave it to every one and his dog. So a far as I am concerned you honour aint worth nothing.
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And saying that if a server has sf mod activated, it will not get players joining, that is just plain wrong.
I see one SF border(FC) server online right now with players on it.
Who said that I never saw anyone say what you are saying?
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Come on this is a load of bullsh*t, seriously, who cares about trackers etc...just because a few like their stat etc, doesnt mean they have to ruin the game for the rest of us..seriously...some of us love the game, and dont care about stats....but those who do love it ...can always play themselves...but yeah, i give up, this is my only post about tracked FC servers....if you dont want to do it, ok, we can go further....but just know 1 thing.....You guys are ruining the game for the rest of us...i know you are admins, and you have all the right...but still...this used to be a hell of a game...
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Maybe you missed the part when Soul said I only mean on bridge. Apart from that Def is always easier no matter what weapons you have. Tracker is a load on garbage loads of 100 H campers out there, that dont truly reflect 100 H I am 42 and beat most 80 H players tracked is a waste of time and is not a true relfection of a player.
Some player done there med training and might be mad that assist gave it to every one and his dog. So a far as I am concerned you honour aint worth nothing.
I don't remember if the medic training had some "tough" prerequisite training to go through before, but that training was dead simple (the SF training was a completely different matter). And about the honor, yeah, honor is not that meaningful, stats are just numbers, and wheels are usually rounded. What else?
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I mean You guys don't even play the game daily like the most of us.
That's not even true. According to BT I play this game more often than you do.
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/795587/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/795587/)
I'd also like to point out that you're free to mod your server. It's just not tracked. So the real question becomes are you playing AA for fun or for stats?
Unauthorized mods are not tracked to try to keep the integrity of the stat tracking system.
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dont take my post to a " NEGATIVE " JUST SPEAKING OPINION
seems to me that , when the question was asked a few people like to rephrase it and make it their own.
nobody wants a 10x kill ? but yet you say a mod is a mod is a mod ?
well you guys ban people for HACKS AND CHEATS , yet UN BAN some people for certain hacks or cheats but not others ?
a cheat is a cheat is a cheat .. ban all cheaters then lift all appeals dont pick and choose .
basically i think you all are saying if the servers were tracked with mods etc it would be different harder wouldnt show correct tracking ?
this is why there are CHOICES , you make your own choice which server to play , play modded , sf , normal , pick what you want . BUT
let everyone choose what they prefer , saying you can make your own server SF , knowing NOBODY will play it , is pathetic .
some say some SF servers get played ? yes maybe 1 or 2 days a month a server will get played on UN TRACKED , people tend to go where server is full.
and some one mentioned a VOTE ? and also said VOTES came from FORUM USERS MOSTLY , well that seems very correct , i say a great %% of posters are admins noobies or members that DONT even play the game.
IF YOU DONT PLAY DONT VOTE ....
lets listen to the active community and do what we can to help the ACTIVE members stay here.
PEOPLE want to make others aware that the game is still alive , but ive seen people come back play for 2 weeks and quit because of normal guns and no sf or mods.
i say we try to keep the ones playing happy and ALSO try to bring NEW people to the game
as i stated in other posts , i have sent MASS EMAILS AND PRIVATE MESSAGES , through old forums, old links and even went to BT and sent 100 emails trying to get people back , but i feel might be a waste of time knowing they will come and then leave .
hope you / we can settle this and help everyone enjoy the game . lot of hostility on forum and chat box lately.
thanks again 187
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nobody wants a 10x kill ? but yet you say a mod is a mod is a mod ?
well you guys ban people for HACKS AND CHEATS , yet UN BAN some people for certain hacks or cheats but not others ?
I'm gonna stop you right there. The only offense we lift bans for is macro usage. A practice that was rampant and possible when the official auth was up. It was to the point where a lot of people thought it was OK to use them. For that reason, we give a one time chance for a user to stop using it. If they do it again then it's a permanent ban. It would be useful for you to know what you're talking about before you try to blast us.
What I don't really get is how you care so much about stats than you won't play on an untracked server, yet you're willing to destroy the integrity of the stats system to the point where it is meaningless...
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Come on this is a load of bullsh*t, seriously, who cares about trackers etc...just because a few like their stat etc, doesnt mean they have to ruin the game for the rest of us..seriously...some of us love the game, and dont care about stats....but those who do love it ...can always play themselves...but yeah, i give up, this is my only post about tracked FC servers....if you dont want to do it, ok, we can go further....but just know 1 thing.....You guys are ruining the game for the rest of us...i know you are admins, and you have all the right...but still...this used to be a hell of a game...
Indeed, who cares about tracker ... play SF mod without tracker if you love the game so much
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lets listen to the active community and do what we can to help the ACTIVE members stay here.
PEOPLE want to make others aware that the game is still alive , but ive seen people come back play for 2 weeks and quit because of normal guns and no sf or mods.
i say we try to keep the ones playing happy and ALSO try to bring NEW people to the game
as i stated in other posts , i have sent MASS EMAILS AND PRIVATE MESSAGES , through old forums, old links and even went to BT and sent 100 emails trying to get people back , but i feel might be a waste of time knowing they will come and then leave .
Who do you mean by this active community? The 500 people who play every day yet refuse to answer a simple vote?
I wouldn't call them active. I would call them ignorant.
And I don't know who you were targeting to only find mod-lovers within 100 players... You must have a good eye for them.
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Leave everything the way it is - for me it works just perfect and has proven itself.
KK people just want the tracking rules changed cause they recently changed their
server to FC. (Oh i see it's normal server again lmao)
And Ganja is quite right with his statement and I couldn't agree more.
Too many ideas popping up lately for my liking- also from people I have never ever heard of before.
They wanna create leagues, ladders, put the game in steam, redesign the whole of assist etc.etc.
I think too many cooks spoil the broth and you shouldn't forget how much work certain people have put into assist already to make it work - I enjoy the game exactly the way it is and personally don't want all sorts of changes again seeing all of these overenthusiastic ideas - I also don't like the shoutbox being touched - works perfect for me.
Just my humble opinion
Lord-of-War :style:
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and some one mentioned a VOTE ? and also said VOTES came from FORUM USERS MOSTLY , well that seems very correct
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IF YOU DONT PLAY DONT VOTE ....
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You see, problem is that most of the active players (~90%) simply refuse to vote - they don't give a shit ... But if there is something wrong with new update, they all come to the forum to complain ... you can't complain when you didn't vote - period ...
... and that's why I wanted the voting system to be mandatory.
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i say a great %% of posters are admins noobies or members that DONT even play the game.
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... and you are proffesional, are you? Unlike to these 90%, at least they care ...
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and some one mentioned a VOTE ? and also said VOTES came from FORUM USERS MOSTLY , well that seems very correct , i say a great %% of posters are admins noobies or members that DONT even play the game.
IF YOU DONT PLAY DONT VOTE ....
Maybe I did not play a lot lately, but as someone who is top 50 in total kills in this game, having played this game more than 1000 hours untracked as well, I think I can have my say as well despite me not being on line a lot lately.
You know what it is, even although some people don't play a lot at this moment, they are still more involved with this game by being active here, and some people, like me, intend to play more when they have the time for it.
I do agree more people in game should vote, but if you already got a notification when starting the game that you should vote now, and you still do not do it, and then the vote wins which you did not like, then who is to blame?
Furthermore, as it always is with more people, everybody will have a different opinion, the outcome will never satisfy everybody. But we are trying to make it as good for everybody as possible.
I still do not see the real issue with modded servers not being tracked, modding servers severely changes the balance of sides on a lot of maps, it is much easier to boost the stats in those servers. AFAIK modded servers are there purely for the fun factor, normal servers are usually a bit more competitive, so I do not see the issue of modded servers not being tracked
- They are meant for fun anyways, not for your own stats
- Balance is severely changed in some occasions, stats would be falsified.
If we had control over battletracker, I would be ok with making a seperate stats for modded servers, however, we do not have control over battletracker, I still think this was still the best option.
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Indeed, who cares about tracker ... play SF mod without tracker if you love the game so much
Believe me, i do not care for the tracker, just see my noob stats, i gave that up long time ago...but some prefer tracked server, so thats why they dont join modded server, and guess which is not tracked, yes the modded server....i like full servers, but when server is not tracked no one will join except the players who play it for the love of the game not stats
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You are talking about people who dont vote. I am shocked at the ass holes who give an opion and dont even read the OP. Feacking idiots, including admin. Twice Eliz misqouted the OP. And so many others its unbelievable. Its like read ten different threads trying to work out what have of you dunces are talking about. Every thread in here goes the same way.
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They don't even talk about my post, they're just saying stuff, trying to confuse me lol....my question is still the same, why normal servers tracked but a Force Class server, or SF-server or Random server is not tracked...i don't talk about mods that gives you 10000 honor points...jesus christ, whats the different between an Force class and Normal server....i want everything to be the same, just a server that an admin can choose the guns..thats all...
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When we first discussed about getting rid of tracker, there were users coming in complaining that no one joins normal gun servers. I remember that certain people came here and complained that they are not wiling to wait in empty server because most of players played in modded servers.
Then we had a vote, the vote I think lasted for 2-3 days and voting was mostly played by forum users or one of the fewer people that complained. The first vote was the forum poll vote which explains why the voting results were in favour to non mod players.
Then after a big decision, assist receives lots of complain about getting rid of tracker in modded servers. By saying '' they had a choice what server to join'' which is true, by any means you have to agree to that, this is a very valid point. They were not forced to join modded servers, and it just showed lack of interest from the players to wait for others in normal servers.
Through this whole time, admins still receive time from time about modded servers.
Since of new client release and great looking poll, this should be reconsidered in private admin section or even in ''respected member'' board. This would be fair to make a voting, this way the majority decides the faith, you would simply provide the answer saying majority voted for mods for the users that complain and you would do that for opposition too. You would not need to look for answers because there would be an answer plain simple.
At this moment we all try to make some point to why this happened, i remember both sides had valid points but for sure modded server players had stronger point by saying they were not forced to join them, they had a choice which makes me believe that the last voting was just a fail attempt and not even majority voted after all.
I am trying to make a conduct appeal. I would like to see voting back and players who play the game right now to decide what they want to do then we won't get any more of this.
AND let's not forget guys, the tracker is still for the looks, of course players will like modded servers, they can get more kills and easier kills, this is a game, in every game you want to have an advantage of others, it would even make life easier for newbies in the game with that SF with scope.
Looking back to 2.3 version, oh god, what days these were,using rpg and all kinds of mods for fun. I even remember shotgun + big jump or shotgun shooting rockets not long ago, when assist was still runned by previous devs, when assist was in free mode, it was fun, these were the fun days, sadly too many hardcore players started complaining that they can't get a good frag rate.
Now all I see normal gun servers, because modded servers aren't tracked, it's simple and I think assist should reconsider bringing back fun where you can laugh with your friends in teamspeak about how ridiculous the kills are :)) I smile all the time when talking about old days, now I see that assist is going to the way and we all forget the fun.
I know admins respond to this already, mods are still there, it's just not tracked, exactly guys, it's not tracked and no one will be willing to use mods in the server because they ar e not tracked, shows how admins care about tracker too, it doesn't matter what is ur K/D ratio, for god sake this is a damn old game, should only conduct fun not to make some hardcore tactical game, because there is no way to compete with games like arma or new games that are coming everyday.
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Seriously, you write EXACTLY what i think...beautifully said...i dont care about the tracker, but some people do, that's why they join normal instead of non tracked modded servers...believe me, once we have tracked modded servers, only some will play normal...everything that is fun about this game is mods..but now no one will play unless its tracked..that is a pity..
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everything that is fun about this game is mods..
That is quite subjective, just because you think so don't make it so.
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And just to be clear about it, using a approved(included into 25Assist) mod that allow FC to be done without the aid of an admin IS partially tracked .
These are the limits when using the FC mod:
- No kills/deaths are recorded
- Only 50% of Points reported when the server is queried using the gamespy protocol.
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And just to be clear about it, using a approved(included into 25Assist) mod that allow FC to be done without the aid of an admin IS partially tracked .
These are the limits when using the FC mod:
- No kills/deaths are recorded
- Only 50% of Points reported when the server is queried using the gamespy protocol.
This is exactly what i mean, why would you do that? Is this what you call fair against the ones who like to prefer Modded servers? Just because some like normal doesnt mean others want that too...the majority likes FC...Let the ones who play Normal, play normal...i will guarentee, alot of them eventually will play also FC servers, why? because they will see themselfs that the majority is in the FC servers...that only if the server is tracked...but yeah..no you guys wont let that happen...because you guys love your precious normal server..anyway i talked enough, i see you guys dont want to track mod servers...it was good talking to you...have a nice day..adios
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Eliz I am wondering and trying to get in your head, for what reason you don't like mods? For what reason you defend your opinion, tell me eliz, what is fun in this game, what makes this game fun? Why this game went into more serious game? Why would you keep FC + tracked but not mods?
Eliz there is more questions than answers be a man, and do a vote, let players who play the game decide, even tho you guys keeping the game alive, everything depends on the players, without players there would be no one playing this game. Both sides has valid points, but Eliz you don't understand the sentence here '' they had a choice, they were not forced to join modded servers'' they could not be bothered waiting for players to join and that's why you chose this side. The fair result would be making a vote but something is stopping you, will you tell me? explain what you feel about mods?
That is quite subjective, just because you think so don't make it so.
You are wrong Eliz, this guy is right, when modded servers were tracked, what servers were played? I didn't see much of normal servers played. I can tell you names who was constantly complaining and banging the door about modded servers but I won't, I won't pick people out but when I played with mods, I didn't see unfortunately players complaining.
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"They still have a choice to join server or not". But if all the noobs like to play with big scopes and alot of 203 etc, normal servers are empty, so, no they don't have a choice ...
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If I may chime on this, I think everyone is getting away from the main issue: lack of players. Whether you have a modded server or not is not the issue. The issue is to inform other players be it in AAPG, AA3 or other games of AA Assist. And I think everyone is losing sight of the big picture
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They have a choice, willingness not to wait is a lack of choice you don't accept, straight forward and then you all go for easier solution just to take out the mods from being tracked. This is not a choice of yours, these two separated things are different, fc half points tracked, mods aren't, i am just waiting for eliz to answer all those questions, hope he gives me a brief conduct explanation and all the invalid points about mods.
AA loses lots of players because every server has normal guns (I don't play much any more because I am bored), I don't see how this situation makes this game fun, all I see is admins trying to convert this game to some serious tactical game which will never happen. They basically took out all the fun, this game should have stayed in free mode and left alone after all. AND to include in my theory, why you all have so many new account loggins but they don't log in back on? every server they enter, they see same guns, same gameplay, no fun at all, therefore you guys shouldn't expect to see new arrivals.
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Before 2.8.5 went down there was plenty of players and plenty of servers to choose from you cant say they just play FC cause they have to most play cuz they want to have a LIL fun here and then.
Its not about big scopes and 203s , i think he just wants to claim have more choice of weapons and maybe even random servers .
Now maybe players have no choice but to play on the server that has people playing BUT before the crash this wasnt the case and this is the time that we all speak about, i am starting to believe the others that these posts tend to get pointless and they all turn the same way ... what the admins want .. i guess ill log off for now
I got a headache
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They have a choice, willingness not to wait is a lack of choice you don't accept, straight forward and then you all go for easier solution just to take out the mods from being tracked. This is not a choice of yours, these two separated things are different, fc half points tracked, mods aren't, i am just waiting for eliz to answer all those questions, hope he gives me a brief conduct explanation and all the invalid points about mods.
AA loses lots of players because every server has normal guns (I don't play much any more because I am bored), I don't see how it this situation makes this game fun, all I see is admins trying to convert this game to some serious tactical game which will never happen. They basically took out all the fun, this game should have stayed in free mode and left alone after all.
Very well said
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If I may chime on this, I think everyone is getting away from the main issue: lack of players. Whether you have a modded server or not is not the issue. The issue is to inform other players be it in AAPG, AA3 or other games of AA Assist. And I think everyone is losing sight of the big picture
U cant bring back players that left or dont come back for a reason ...i have mentioned the same thing you just did , but isnt that easy . Need to fix small problem before you fix the real problem , lack of players ??????
Why ?????? Do we have lack of players ? That is the question :)
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When we first discussed about getting rid of tracker, there were users coming in complaining that no one joins normal gun servers. I remember that certain people came here and complained that they are not wiling to wait in empty server because most of players played in modded servers.
Then we had a vote, the vote I think lasted for 2-3 days and voting was mostly played by forum users or one of the fewer people that complained. The first vote was the forum poll vote which explains why the voting results were in favour to non mod players.
Then after a big decision, assist receives lots of complain about getting rid of tracker in modded servers. By saying '' they had a choice what server to join'' which is true, by any means you have to agree to that, this is a very valid point. They were not forced to join modded servers, and it just showed lack of interest from the players to wait for others in normal servers.
Through this whole time, admins still receive time from time about modded servers.
Since of new client release and great looking poll, this should be reconsidered in private admin section or even in ''respected member'' board. This would be fair to make a voting, this way the majority decides the faith, you would simply provide the answer saying majority voted for mods for the users that complain and you would do that for opposition too. You would not need to look for answers because there would be an answer plain simple.
At this moment we all try to make some point to why this happened, i remember both sides had valid points but for sure modded server players had stronger point by saying they were not forced to join them, they had a choice which makes me believe that the last voting was just a fail attempt and not even majority voted after all.
I am trying to make a conduct appeal. I would like to see voting back and players who play the game right now to decide what they want to do then we won't get any more of this.
AND let's not forget guys, the tracker is still for the looks, of course players will like modded servers, they can get more kills and easier kills, this is a game, in every game you want to have an advantage of others, it would even make life easier for newbies in the game with that SF with scope.
Looking back to 2.3 version, oh god, what days these were,using rpg and all kinds of mods for fun. I even remember shotgun + big jump or shotgun shooting rockets not long ago, when assist was still runned by previous devs, when assist was in free mode, it was fun, these were the fun days, sadly too many hardcore players started complaining that they can't get a good frag rate.
Now all I see normal gun servers, because modded servers aren't tracked, it's simple and I think assist should reconsider bringing back fun where you can laugh with your friends in teamspeak about how ridiculous the kills are :)) I smile all the time when talking about old days, now I see that assist is going to the way and we all forget the fun.
I know admins respond to this already, mods are still there, it's just not tracked, exactly guys, it's not tracked and no one will be willing to use mods in the server because they ar e not tracked, shows how admins care about tracker too, it doesn't matter what is ur K/D ratio, for god sake this is a damn old game, should only conduct fun not to make some hardcore tactical game, because there is no way to compete with games like arma or new games that are coming everyday.
The most brilliant answer or opinion so far. Look at the bigger picture guys. Population stalled, more people potential more donation to keep this games alive. The reason i & maybe the more played BF beacuse we can choose any option of guns. I used to love this game & still do.
Like the old times if i bored of normal, i go to FC servers to have fun. Have many option to play never bored me. When normal server populated by hardcore normal veteran, newbie like me will be dead in first 1 minutes of the games & have to wait for 6-7 minutes to play again. I prefer mods server at least have fun. People have choices to play when & what they want. Have more than 100 servers online but 5-10 have players on it. Pathetic!.
I saw this game on survival mode now. Modded lovers should realize this is the war they cannot win which i can saw an answers by admins.
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AA loses lots of players because every server has normal guns (I don't play much any more because I am bored)
I can guarantee you that almost everyone left either because they dont know assist or they are bored..the main reason i left assist, is when they changed the mod tracker...only reason i came back is for the love of the game, i swear...
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Have more than 100 servers online but 5-10 have players on it. Pathetic!.
HAHAHAHAHAH , this should say enough, doesnt it?
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Modded servers were populated, played everyday, I had a bunch of laugh with my friend son ts3.
Now : normal servers populated, modded tracker is taken out from the game. BASICALLY it's the other way around, no side wins, so at this point you have two look at both sides. Bring back tracked mods, let mods be used like big jump and so on, and players choice where to play.
Eliz said u want 10x killls? sure, what does tracker give to me? nothing, i never look at my k/d lol, i want fun i don't care about kills and deaths, the game should be fun eliz, look at the brighter side.
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I am happy to see people that like mods still sticking around, not losing faith that one day it will be a return of mods with full tracking system. There should be no conspiracy against mod players because at the moment it just feels right as it is.
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Who said mods about 10x kills, i dont want that, i want fun servers, with Variaty of weopons, not only normal...
You want all mods to be fully tracked, or did I misunderstood you?
If misc. "fun" mods are allowed, there is nothing that prevents a server running 10x kills mod.
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Eliz I am glad you keeping this game alive, but you are not willing or don't know the answer to my questions. Eliz bring back the acceptable mods, like it used to be, big jump mod, weapon mods, nobody is talking about honour mods, we don't need honour points, honour mods don't give me fun at all, I wish someone told you what was 2.3 version about. AA was not supposed to be serious game, it had a very strong fun side of the game. You took the fun out, nobody else did, you made the final decision and these complains and problems go on your shoulder. To me you took a conspiracy against mod players, you took against mods itself. We don't talk about honour point mods, damn why not just delete tracker if you are so damn serious and look at the tracker as a important aspect, hell it is for players, but WE don't receive any award at the end of the day. This game has lost all competitive gameplay, its only pubs that's the reason you need to bring fun back.
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You took the fun out, nobody else did, you made the final decision and these complains and problems go on your shoulder.
Nope, that happened before my time.
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Nope, that happened before my time.
Lol, i am confused, was it jonny who took them out?
Either way mods should be back and we all should have a choice where to play :)
Sorry if I went on you, I really can't remember who took them out, happened long ago.
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- Bring back crusade mods
- Make acceptable mods, like big jump, normal ammo changed to rockets and so on.
- Disable honour mods
- Make mods tracked
Then we will have a happy family, where no side loses anything.
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- Make acceptable mods, like big jump, normal ammo changed to rockets and so on.
Hahaha what's "acceptable" about rocket ammo or big jump lol
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Hahaha what's "acceptable" about rocket ammo or big jump lol
It's all about being fun like I said, what mods are acceptable to you? pick your own weapons, that's all? I wan't to see my old game that I used to play than this game, where you constantly banged the door complaining about modded servers, that nobody joins the normal server, Have to wait 15 minutes just to get couple players in the server, I remember all the crying u had unfortunately, trying to deny this would just show how pff u are lying, but hey, I want to talk to eliz, no one else to be involved who doesn't like mods, i want to have man to man conversation here, i can use pm if I hurt anybodies feelings.
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It's all about being fun
This sentence is so wrong. If it was true there would be no topic about tracking mods.
First you say there should be a vote, like everybody's opinion count, but than you say "I only wanna talk to Eliz" like you don't care what others have to say. And then you complain that your questions are unanswered.
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Hahaha what's "acceptable" about rocket ammo or big jump lol
Ganja, you're such an hypocriet...wow..never thought this about you..i remember me and you were having so much fun when there was mods..but now you do like you dont like it...what will you say now...''i dont like it anymore''?? H Y P O C R I E T
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It's all about being fun like I said, what mods are acceptable to you? pick your own weapons, that's all? I wan't to see my old game that I used to play than this game, where you constantly banged the door complaining about modded servers, that nobody joins the normal server, Have to wait 15 minutes just to get couple players in the server, I remember all the crying u had unfortunately, trying to deny this would just show how pff u are lying, but hey, I want to talk to eliz, no one else to be involved who doesn't like mods, i want to have man to man conversation here, i can use pm if I hurt anybodies feelings.
I think we all want to hear what u have to say and also hear some answers.
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Ganja, you're such an hypocriet...wow..never thought this about you..i remember me and you were having so much fun when there was mods..but now you do like you dont like it...what will you say now...''i dont like it anymore''?? H Y P O C R I E T
He has two faces like everyone else here.He has too many buddies here so don't start war with him.
I want to convince eliz to start the poll of course, I would be grateful to talk to him like a man, to give him valid points to make that decision with voting, you misunderstood me obviously ganja like usual.
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I think we all want to hear what u have to say and also hear some answers.
I would be glad to share them but people like ganja really makes me upset since he is so clever and called a lot of folk hypocrites for the last couple good years.
I will wait for eliz to answer whether he is willing to make a vote at least for a week to see results, that's all i am asking at the moment.
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Ganja, you're such an hypocriet...wow..never thought this about you..i remember me and you were having so much fun when there was mods..but now you do like you dont like it...what will you say now...''i dont like it anymore''?? H Y P O C R I E T
Yes I remember very well, but you understand me wrong. I could still have the same fun from time to time on modded servers and still don't need them to be tracked. All I hear from you guys is "fun, fun, fun" but what it really sounds like is "stats, stats, stats".
I've seen quiet a few times people saying "get rid of the tracker, because it ruins the fun" and that's so true. So if admins are going to track mods, they're gonna send a message that tracker IS important, which it's not ...
I would be glad to share them but people like ganja really makes me upset since he is so clever and called a lot of folk hypocrites for the last couple good years.
What does this have to do with that ...
And btw for those who remember, the game became also very boring when the weaponpicker was around on every populated servers ...
He has two faces like everyone else here.He has too many buddies here so don't start war with him.
Why start a war? Can't we have a normal discussion and each give his opinion? I don't need buddies to give my opinion you know ... Start your drama somewhere else plz
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I will wait for eliz to answer whether he is willing to make a vote at least for a week to see results, that's all i am asking at the moment.
Lets just say he made a poll, result is 60%says no to tracked mods and 40%says yes ....so no mods tracked, but wouldnt that still unfair to the other 40%??
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Lets just say he made a poll, result is 60%says no to tracked mods and 40%says yes ....so no mods tracked, but wouldnt that still unfair to the other 40%??
Of course it would be, that's another discussion, best is simply to see the results :)
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The reason i & maybe the more played BF beacuse we can choose any option of guns.
And that's the very reason this game isn't called Battlefield or Call Of Duty. Each game has his characteristics, and I'm sorry to say but high jumps, rocket ammo etc sound more as Call Of Duty to me. AA doesn't have the reputation to be such a game, so why change it now?
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And btw for those who remember, the game became also very boring when the weaponpicker was around on every populated servers ...
I think i played 2.8.5 the last 6 months it was active and recall more then weapon pick. Always many to choose from cuz i hated pick weapon to because every noob picked rpg or gp , well any way .
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Yes I remember very well, but you understand me wrong. I could still have the same fun from time to time on modded servers and still don't need them to be tracked. All I hear from you guys is "fun, fun, fun" but what it really sounds like is "stats, stats, stats".
if you think I do this for the stats thAn you know me so little, you of all people should know that i dont Give a rats ass about stats lol...i want them to be tracked so that people have a fair chance of chosing their Server, and having mods tracked, looks like a fair deal...
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Then we will have a happy family, where no side loses anything.
Everybody loses a legitimate tracker.
You keep talking about choice, but you can still play on modded servers. The choice is still there. It wasn't taken away.
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Everybody loses a legitimate tracker.
You keep talking about choice, but you can still play on modded servers. The choice is still there. It wasn't taken away.
oh yes it was, you know when? When u guys track normal and dont track mods...why cant You understand this?
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oh yes it was, you know when? When u guys track normal and dont track mods...how cant understand this?
I don't think you understand. You can still run a modded server and it still shows up in the Assist server browser. Players can still play on it with you. Therefore you can still choose to play on a modded server or not.
This isn't about choice. It's about you wanting modded stats to count towards your tracker.
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I think i played 2.8.5 the last 6 months it was active and recall more then weapon pick. Always many to choose from cuz i hated pick weapon to because every noob picked rpg or gp , well any way .
I was talking far after that, when 2.8.5 was long gone. Weapon Pick servers on Assist were fking horrible, and it was all there was at some point, which really made some players quit.
Now I've said all I wanted to say, hope u will understand at least some of my arguments
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Having a tracked mod server is about bringing the FUN AND PLAYERS back .
Theres nothing negative to come to have a server modded tracked .
Some mention stats will show wrong or wont be right etc , but this is 1 thing we do not care about .
BASICALLY only way i can say it is , we are not looking for a modded server to be tracked so we can raise honor or raise kills or points , BUT to have tracked server so MORE PLAYERS COME BACK and even the players now stay on FC servers because they are tracked now , just so hard to explain with out repeating what others have said already .
Yes some players play for fair game for stats only well , they can choose to play on others servers just like mod players are being forced to do now.
I think these guys are trying to have servers tracked again for the fun of game and the chance that modded or FC players come back to play assist.
More players the better . We lost mods then we lost players simple knowledge
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We lost mods then we lost players simple knowledge
this is exactly What happened, people got bored of the game and left, i was one of them...lol ask everyone on AA bridge about me...they always say Why u leave after a short time...now they all know Why, because its Boring as F..
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this is exactly What happened, people got bored of the game and left, i was one of them...lol ask everyone on AA bridge about me...they always say Why u leave after a short time...now they all know Why, because its Boring as F..(Im talking about now, only reason i play, is for the love of the game, for my clanmates and friends)
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I don't think you understand. You can still run a modded server and it still shows up in the Assist server browser. Players can still play on it with you. Therefore you can still choose to play on a modded server or not.
This isn't about choice. It's about you wanting modded stats to count towards your tracker.
This is the only thing you can come up with is changing our words or putting words in our mouth .
No where does it say we want tracked for the better of US , its so the players that play now will actually play kn ghe server just because it shows up online doesnt fix the problem, the ones who care about kills points etc wont play or stay cuz its not tracked. Its simple to understand
tracked mods for fun and also lets stat players play the servers and have fun at same time.
also having modded servers will bring some players back once they know they exist and are tracked .
Its all about the fun of the game and being able to play with other weapons at the same time allowing stat people to play with the non stat people and everyone is happy.
Not that it matters now about server chose cuz someone killed the game .
Now can it be fixed
Hope my last 2 posts were explained well plus im mobile
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The facts, lots of modded lovers like to be tracked same as normal lovers. When tracking was removed, they left they game. For them its a reward when playing the games, like others game too. Lets say, we removed tracking on normal, normal players will left the games. It's vice versa. Keep the both we gains. Or Just remove that's trackers normal & modded.. I bet K/D ratio whores will cries. Lets face the world.. u like it.. the others don't. U said BMW car was awesome, others think its ugly. Well.. they can choose what they want. In community should be a win-win situation which doesn't happen here. Admin should try to propose something if they don't like mods. Example: We allowed mods.. kills allowed (for K/D whores). But no point for honor gains. or only a few mods allowed such as weapon pick, random, etc. We not allowed extreme mods: High Jump, m9 rpg bullets, etc. Lets get to the same page that make everyone enjoy the games.
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First of all, since I read 4 pages of this thread, some of the things I'll be saying will reference posts many pages back and I'm sorry for that, buy I like to sleep at night rather than read all the drama on the forums.
@AAC, you're saying you didn't see anyone complaining on FC/modded servers when they were allowed. Well then you must have been blind. I saw it constantly.
@Soul, you said the majority of people likes mods, how can you possibly know that? Have you run a poll within players? I seriously doubt that. This is just your subjective opinion.
When you guys are talking about "allowing mod x and not allowing mod y", I don't think you understand that it doesn't work that way. If we were to allow a mod, it will most likely have all the possibilities, including 100 points for kills and so forth.
Besides, even if we were to only allow FC mods to be fully counted, the next thing that would be asked would be some other weird thing that was never supposed to be in the game. Where does it end?
We need to draw a line somewhere and we have done so.
All in all what really baffels me is the fact that everyone throws around the word "fun" when talking about modded servers, yet they still think it needs to be tracked. If people played just for fun, they wouldn't care about their tracker. And if they don't care about tracker, there should be no problem playing on modded servers right now.
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Like I said already no one read the OP properly and quoyed what he said. Eliz misquoted sSoul twice and never responded yet. Why? The ones who dont agree with soul are also adding in tthings soul never said. And the ones who agree with Soul are also adding in stuff Soul never said. Then the ones who dont agree are quoting what soul never said again. What a shamles of a dicussion.
His question is really simple. It breacks down to this. He wants modded servers tracked because He and I and many others no . There are a players want to play modded servers but dont becaue they are not tracked. Every time I went into DO Not and Friends it ended up full. There would be more of this type of server getting filled if they were tracked. That is what Soul is saying. The biggest losers would be normal weapon server admins. That are useully full because the 1 like bridge and 2 want traked. And these are exactly the reason you changed it back to please two or three server admin. Give them the vote Spankeys awfull quite?
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oh oh...half an hour to read that all. to make it short:
- so many server available because players can choose from weapon pick, vote maps, force class and different maps. thats good, no admins needed there.
- modded servers are possible and players do still join(see PUF server or others)
- in the subjectiv way i do also think full tracked modded servers would bring more players, but
- in the past i did see that some servers did count 100x honors. this is just bullshit and it would kill this game
- the normal servers will not have that much players then (yes, as i did say, i do beleave that more players would play on modded server)
- for me the only way to activate the mods again would be
- if ELiZ could run the honors made on modded servers through a "filter" which could find out about the honors multiplicator and cut it if done so
- not to make a poll about it. no more drama needed for me
- to make a test about that all - on a official aao25 server - to see how many players would go for it
my 2 cents about that all
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Like I said already no one read the OP properly and quoyed what he said. Eliz misquoted sSoul twice and never responded yet. Why? The ones who dont agree with soul are also adding in tthings soul never said. And the ones who agree with Soul are also adding in stuff Soul never said. Then the ones who dont agree are quoting what soul never said again. What a shamles of a dicussion.
His question is really simple. It breacks down to this. He wants modded servers tracked because He and I and many others no . There are a players want to play modded servers but dont becaue they are not tracked. Every time I went into DO Not and Friends it ended up full. There would be more of this type of server getting filled if they were tracked. That is what Soul is saying. The biggest losers would be normal weapon server admins. That are useully full because the 1 like bridge and 2 want traked. And these are exactly the reason you changed it back to please two or three server admin. Give them the vote Spankeys awfull quite?
I don't know whether you're blind or can't read. It's been answered and then answered again.
It's because allowing mods to be tracked would ruin the integrity of the stats and points being tracked.
It's because allowing mods to be tracked would let people do all kinds of silly things that were never meant to be in the game (such as high jump, rocket ammo, 100 points per kill and so on).
It's because the players already have a choise to play on modded servers.
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Ugh...seriously, Like vegeta said...dont change the subject people...i do not give a ratsass about the honorpoints or something...Just give fully honorpoints to force class, Random guns and SF...we dont even care for give me servers, or m9 with rockets and other shit....Also what [SWISS]Merlin said...you can do whatever you like about those 100xhonor points etc..ban them, kick them, for all i care..Just give us our OLD GAME back, which we loved..and teddy_grizzly_bear, with all due respect...you talk shit man....no one said about the high jump and shit..JUST DISABLE THOSE!?
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Ugh...seriously, Like vegeta said...dont change the subject people...i do not give a ratsass about the honorpoints or something...Just give fully honorpoints to force class, Random guns and SF...we dont even care for give me servers, or m9 with rockets and other shit....Also what [SWISS]Merlin said...you can do whatever you like about those 100xhonor points etc..ban them, kick them, for all i care..Just give us our OLD GAME back, which we loved..and teddy_grizzly_bear, with all due respect...you talk shit man....no one said about the high jump and shit..JUST DISABLE THOSE!?
The simple fact of the matter:
If misc. "fun" mods are allowed, there is nothing that prevents a server running 10x kills mod.
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It's pointless discussion with current admins, best thing would be getting rid of tracker and left game free for all so admins won't look at tracker, getting rid of tracker in normal servers, players would leave, same happened with modded servers being tracked, players left because the tracker was taken out.
Modded servers were played - normal servers were left out.
Normal servers now being played - modded server are taken out.
Teddy its hard for you understand, no one will play without tracker, jeesus christ, how hard is for admin to understand this? Teddy what tracker gives us? what we achieve, tell me in this damn fucking old game, WHAT WE FUCKING ACHIEVE? I am sorry but i am trying to win this for both sides and all you see is sticking to your own opinion for a no go, all we ask is a poll and you don't give a fuck about it, scared to have people's opinion in poll?
All assist admins, IS IT SO HARD TO MAKE A VOTE POLL? are you scared that mod players actually could win this? It's like trying to make appeal, some kind of government issue. All we ask is to bring poll with a question '' should mod servers fully tracked'', because the poll about modded servers were on forum and the result was awful, they didn't even had right to remove it since not even slice of majority voted back then. This is not majority but was conspiracy against modded servers and players.
Grow ballz and put that tracker away or give me a prize at the end of the day for something to achieve here.
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It's pointless discussion with current admins, best thing would be getting rid of tracker and left game free for all.
Waw and you were the one saying people here "have two faces"
He has two faces like everyone else here.
You come here arguing modded servers should be tracked otherwise nobody joins because some people care about tracker, and then suddenly you think it's better to remove tracker for all (which, in your logic, will result in a dead game)
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I will quit this game if mods will be tracked.
The game was designed without mods and it should stay this way - if you wanna have your so called "fun" then have it - but not tracked -
Mods have been forced on to you on "normal Servers" too much already - especially the KK Server - which Soul is clan member of - and now exactly these KK People come with the mod suggestions cause they fear too many people could run away if it isnt tracked as a mod server or maybe they stay away like myself when mods are being played extensively on a so called normal server. I hate mods and there is no fun in it for me - sorry to say.
Only 2 people favor mods in this topic so far so whats the point in talking about it forever.
I agree with Ganja once again and whit Teddy and Eliz too.
Maybe there are too many kids playing - which of course like funny little games - that is what children like - I prefer the original game and that's without mods
Lord-of-War :style:
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Admins had no right to do anything to this game, not a single modification within client or game, so don't talk shit, the mods and tracker shouldn't even be here since devs left the game free for all.
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Admins had no right to do anything to this game, not a single modification within client or game, so don't talk shit, the mods and tracker shouldn't even be here since devs left the game free for all.
Damnit are you for real? You didn't get what you wanted so you're going on the "this game is illegal" conspiracy again?
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Damnit are you for real? You didn't get what you wanted so you're going on the "this game is illegal" conspiracy again?
Why you quoting '' this game is illegal'' when you know it is lol. Just stating facts to lord of war since he has no clue at all about AA.
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again this blabla? Pfff
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Teddy its hard for you understand, no one will play without tracker, jeesus christ, how hard is for admin to understand this? Teddy what tracker gives us? what we achieve, tell me in this damn fucking old game, WHAT WE FUCKING ACHIEVE?
This sounds weird as fuck man xD
You start by saying "OMFG NOBODY PLAY THIS WITHOUT TRACKER" to then go on to "OMFG TRACKER DOESNT MEAN SHIT ITS USELESS"
Or maybe I understand you wrong?
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again this blabla? Pfff
comes from someone who likes to post in every thread, u not welcome to discuss this. ty
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ArmyAntiCheat,
I am so happy for you having such an unbelievable knowledge about AA.
I am sure people can understand what I was trying to say and I don't have to write
a science book to be heard.
Don't be another gobshite trying to belittle my opinion by talking down on me
Lord-of-War :style:
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ArmyAntiCheat,
I am so happy for you having such an unbelievable knowledge about AA.
I am sure people can understand what I was trying to say and I don't have to write
a science book to be heard.
Don't be another gobshite trying to belittle my opinion by talking down on me
Lord-of-War :style:
u funny boy
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Lord theres another thread telling all about your camping type who makes noobs run to play other games. You should have no voice in here for anything. Your type ruins the game for new guys coming in. selfish player is all you have ever been in AA. There a many more the same as you in here to. many. So shhhh. Or just do what you do in game hide at the back . :)
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Wolfie i know you dont like me, i dislike ur sad ass also :)
And i love how you keep pushing over and over the same stories... its just becomming boring.
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Lol - come up with something better funny boy No.3 - how many times have you played me ? -
Another one trying to talk down on me.
Doesn't get you anywhere - rather think of something to proof me wrong - and anyway I just voiced my opinion that's all.Did I attack anyone ? No!
And you definitely don't Shhhh me -You not my mother - or are you 80 years old?
And I play how i wanna play - I don't tell you how to play do I? Don't think so.
Lord-of-War :style:
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The majority of people here seem to be under the impressions the Administrators have a personal vendetta against either the tracked or modded servers -- or anything else the community asks for for that matter...so, maybe it's time I share the secret motto that lurks around the administration forum:
Whatever we do, people will bitch and moan about it.
Really, it all comes down to this. I've heard mentions of "where's the fun in AA?" yet no one member has recalled instances where we pro-actively brought fun elements to the game such as the Christmas re-mapping, the optimised mAAp Maps [there are quite a few that'll provide fun for countless successive hours]. Furthermore, we have added various forms of communication and interaction to the game precisely in spite of a more connected and flexible community. As it stands, you have all the tools you'll ever need to have the most fun you can get...all you have to do is start having fun.
Yet still...people are discontent. Why? Because servers aren't tracked. I understand that as much as I understand that making those servers tracked will increase hype for a few days and revert back to its normal state right afterwards. You can blame the administrators all day long but at the end of the day the question remains:
Why aren't you guys having fun or at all working/dedicating your time to making modded trackers a plausible and trustable feature?
A few ideas almost instantly come to mind:
-- Make a modded tournament or event such as the Big Clan Day.
-- Take screenshots, share those with the community.
-- Start playing in modded servers and getting a proper fanbase.
If you do any of these or all three for that matter, the administrators might feel convinced or otherwise inclined that going forward with such a proposition is actually worth their time and won't simply turn out to be another "Here we go..." bitch and moaning parade. Instead of expecting all of the community's demands to become of supreme godly importance maybe you should start adding some more value to your suggestions? Dedicate yourself to Assist and AA in essence.
Don't take my words the wrong way. I understand everyone's points and have in no way taken any value from them. I'm merely suggesting you each take a better look at what you've done for the community and how you can further help the administrators and AA flourish. It'd be unfair to trust the future of AA/Assist lies only in the administrator's responsibility. That's never the way its been and never will be. The sooner we all realise this the better this game's future will be -- the game we all love to hate and hate to love...but still come back to and play even after a decade has gone by.
My two scents,
/Dialects
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Well.. i think enough talking & let hear what admin decided. Seem its getting far from topic & i can smell something starts burning. Most of people have a valid points. Normal or modded. Hope admin can decide something will be useful & ended this issue to be surface in future. Seem most people talks like Albert Einstein, lets put it into actions now. :up:
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cheers Dialects :up:
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This sounds weird as fuck man xD
You start by saying "OMFG NOBODY PLAY THIS WITHOUT TRACKER" to then go on to "OMFG TRACKER DOESNT MEAN SHIT ITS USELESS"
Or maybe I understand you wrong?
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read his post...
Why you quoting '' this game is illegal'' when you know it is lol. Just stating facts to lord of war since he has no clue at all about AA.
You're right. It is illegal. But there's no point in bringing it up unless you're purpose is to see it die off. If you feel you don't want to be involved with Assist because of it, then go right ahead and delete your forum account and never open Assist again. It's your right.
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I was thinking the exact same thing when I read his post...
You're right. It is illegal. But there's no point in bringing it up unless you're purpose is to see it die off. If you feel you don't want to be involved with Assist because of it, then go right ahead and delete your forum account and never open Assist again. It's your right.
And this is another reason people are leaving ass holes talking like this.
Very encouraging teddy well done son
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And this is another reason people are leaving ass holes talking like this.
Very encouraging teddy well done son
Quoted to prevent editing.
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Quoted to prevent editing.
Well that is at least one that you quoted prperly today. Can you go back and get the other two that you MISQOUTED right???
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And this is another reason people are leaving ass holes talking like this.
Very encouraging teddy well done son
Yes. I'm awful for disliking AAC.
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What two was that?
I cant recall using quotation tags or quotation marks in such a way.
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Whiter you use quotaion marks or not you were accusing Soul of saying something he never.
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Yes. I'm awful for disliking AAC.
You know full well the section of your post I am referring to. Dont try and cover it upp now.
I will requote it so there is no misunderstanding from you, or anyone else for that matter.
If you feel you don't want to be involved with Assist because of it, then go right ahead and delete your forum account and never open Assist again. It's your right.
This dosent help in heated discussions. We wanyt people to come in and your telling them to go very mature.
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Whiter you use quotaion marks or not you were accusing Soul of saying something he never.
Are you talking about this one?
I know we have permission to FC, but Some players don't like to join a server that is not Tracked
And saying that if a server has sf mod activated, it will not get players joining, that is just plain wrong.
I see one SF border(FC) server online right now with players on it.
I used sf mod as an example, since the next row in my post showed that a SF mod(FC) server had people playing on it. Since the SF mod is another name for the weaponfocer(FC) mod, I see no wrong in my statement.
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This dosent help in heated discussions. We wanyt people to come in and your telling them to go very mature.
No. I'm telling him if he doesn't like it, he can go away.
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I was thinking the exact same thing when I read his post...
Ah so that's why he deleted his post, it didn't make any sense lol.
And this is another reason people are leaving ass holes talking like this.
Very encouraging teddy well done son
If you came on the forums earlier last year, and the year before and the year before you'd know ArmyAntiCheat (who goes by many other names here on the forums) has a bad history on Assist, ingame and out-game, so that's why Teddy reacts like that.
Everytime Army doesn't get what he wants, he pulls out the "OMG IM GONNA CALL THE US GOVERNMENT AND YOUR GAME WILL BE SHUTDOWN" show, so it should be understandable he's not the most beloved one around.
Sorry off topic but had to clear that out
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Yes. I'm awful for disliking AAC.
Can i join the club?
This dosent help in heated discussions. We wanyt people to come in and your telling them to go very mature.
That would be appropriate in the case of people like AAC that managed to get caught cheating even on AAPG and even managed to get theirselves banned on some clan forums (TW clan, to be precise) because of their really awful behavior (basically insulting everyone). Even his Steam account already has a VAC ban he gained on another game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYeKL9qo94o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYeKL9qo94o)
http://history.anticheatinc.com/aapg/index.php?searchtype=2&searchlimit=1&searchvalue=00000000000000076561198110336390 (http://history.anticheatinc.com/aapg/index.php?searchtype=2&searchlimit=1&searchvalue=00000000000000076561198110336390)
http://steamcommunity.com//profiles/76561198110336390 (http://steamcommunity.com//profiles/76561198110336390)
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Are you talking about this one?
I used sf mod as an example, since the next row in my post showed that a SF mod(FC) server had people playing on it. Since the SF mod is another name for the weaponfocer(FC) mod, I see no wrong in my statement.
I believe he's referring to when Soul said that he only meant Bridge and then went on to say it goes for any map.and i Only talk about the Bridge servers...nowadays its only normal servers only...in any map..
Although later in there he was talking about "only bridge" again.
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Wrong koden, my logins in AA:PG last online was 2014 October 3rd and 16th, u can ask aapg admins for my logins.
This is my steam profile http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197967430781 (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197967430781)
You tell me something I have never done it, you always tried to be so intelligent koden, maybe keep in topic or you have some other powers about talking to someone else? Admin to accuse someone, yes I can go on and do trouble, and you think I can't do anything to this game? When I lose temper I can barely give a fuck about anything, pushing over the line I can return something in ''favour'' so don't try and play me, you had not a single AA government licences to do anything to this game, imagine it all going down, all that work just falling apart.
Let's stay on the topic and try to find some ways to help both sides. Admins here feel too tough, teddy becoming new admin thinks his so power, admitting they don't like someone in community really makes them hardcore lol, eliz its time to reconsider staff.
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Vegeta and ArmyCheat, it's no use lol....we did our best...these guys think we want mods for honor points etc...but people who know me, will know that Honorpoints are the least i care about...the only reason i wanted to get mods tracked, is because i miss the old days, i miss the old players, all left because of Normal...you guys literally made people leave the game...this is the truth, but you guys just dont get it, or you guys just ignore the fact...I want people the enjoy the game, and if takes mods to be tracked, then so be it, but this is not because I want myself the mods to be tracked, but as you can see, people like tracked servers...they want their honor points, just as a sign of a reward for their well playing...
Anyhow, i wish you all good luck with YOUR GAME, because this doesnt feel like our game anymore....
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This community is ruined that's all to say. Always the same people on forum.
Has anyone noticed how everyone is friendly here? I mean, admins always support ganja, because ganja licks ass and tries so hard for admin spot, eventually he will get it. They have this vendetta against players like me. Admitting they don't like somebody is really unprofessional. Forum users are always the same, u wont win the war, they been licking each others ass for damn very long, u wont win the war when u are 3 vs 10 who is also in respected member board.
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Anyhow, i wish you all good luck with YOUR GAME, because this doesnt feel like our game anymore....
"our game". I'm sorry but the only ones I see here are you, 187, Vegeta and Army Anti Cheat, whose opinion doesn't count in my eyes. Perhaps this thread could have a little more magnitude if more people testified like you did.
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"our game". I'm sorry but the only ones I see here are you, 187, Vegeta and Army Anti Cheat, whose opinion doesn't count in my eyes. Perhaps this thread could have a little more magnitude if more people testified like you did.
Keep up, its good for ur post count, how is that ass licking going on ganja? still like that shit taste?
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"our game". I'm sorry but the only ones I see here are you, 187, Vegeta and Army Anti Cheat, whose opinion doesn't count in my eyes. Perhaps this thread could have a little more magnitude if more people testified like you did.
and yet you Eliz and teddy are the only ones on the opposing side ;)...people who are against this are all on this Forum/site...the ones who love mods...are not..so you tell me..if its fair...
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and yet you Eliz and teddy are the only ones on the opposing side ;)...people who are against this are all on this Forum/site...the ones who love mods...are not..so you tell me..if its fair...
It has nothing to do with fairness. Everybody has the same chances to come on the forums. I'm just saying that if you want things to change you might want to build a better case, with more 'witnesses' because I doubt admins will change something because 3 guys say si.
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and yet you Eliz and teddy are the only ones on the opposing side ;)...people who are against this are all on this Forum/site...the ones who love mods...are not..so you tell me..if its fair...
We're not the only ones who expressed our opinion on this matter. Go through the 8 pages to find the rest. I can think of at least 2 people who gave their input in a reasonable way just off the top of my head.
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You guys are responsible for the lack of players...every change since the existing of Assist have made players leave...are you guys proud of that? huh...because all i can see is normal servers..and yes there are modded servers...but with 0 players ....thats all on you guys, congratz :)
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thanks everyone for keeping this game alive for so long, love you all
Anytime mate !
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Anytime mate !
I meant that with all my heart...but as we can see..this game is dieing by day...
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Well if your so sure you have it in the bag Give them the poll? What are you so scared of????
You were all moaning no one voted in the last poll why so scared????
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I haven't read a lot of the drama in here but I believe the jist of it is that you guys want SF-Mod back.
I'm sure there's a way to enable it and only it and still keep other weapons untracked. I think there should be a poll, just like the 2nd one for 203's on Hospital. Let the community decide and if things have shifted back, so be it.
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Then get poll back.
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I haven't read a lot of the drama in here but I believe the jist of it is that you guys want SF-Mod back.
I'm sure there's a way to enable it and only it and still keep other weapons untracked. I think there should be a poll, just like the 2nd one for 203's on Hospital. Let the community decide and if things have shifted back, so be it.
Thanks, finally someone who replies that is actually helpfull...we want SF-mod, and force class back to be tracked...that is all...
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What do you mean by SF-mod?
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Did i miss sumthing !??
Is my Sf Border child growing up in the big aa army world agan !
I will say nothing it looks like it works better this way :)
This will bring also all aganst players back in assist to vote aganst it LOL!! :idea:
But ok its a way of thinking ore acceptation . sum say its compete aganst classic.
others say free choice
but we did proof that who did start the game in sf ore classic that server will grow.
only the diehards stay whit ther choice .
Ad the end its all about having a good fun time and free choice.
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What do you mean by SF-mod?
Forceclassing SF to all players on every map. It used to be tracked because, well, there was no way to detect it or prevent it from being tracked.
Even if SF-Mod gets 'allowed' in terms of tracking, that doesn't mean all servers will switch over to it. We still should have a balance and let players choose what they want.
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"our game". I'm sorry but the only ones I see here are you, 187, Vegeta and Army Anti Cheat, whose opinion doesn't count in my eyes. Perhaps this thread could have a little more magnitude if more people testified like you did.
Well. i'm sick reading ur negative comment & others which not helping instead starting flame of anger.. I'm pretty sure soul mean 'ours' is community. U talk like Albert Einstein.. To show u the only one smart, intellegent & u know 1000 things thats others don't. Geez.. I often come here & read. I've read spanky old forum...natescomp. or something like that. I used 2.5 assist long enough than u do.. when 2.5 assist created by johnnym for mac users which abandoned by Americas Army.
They appeal in a correct way to have a their gameplay, a few people came & start hustle the others... grown up please. Some was by an forum admin?. Pathetic!.
Please learn to be a forum admin like Americas Army moderator or Admin or others good forum. I think All admin here should re'thinking' about inmature behaviour by Admins. I'm accepting if trash word come from forum members. But sadly from admin too?.
For me this modded issue always been raised up because everytime its appeared there no solutions to it. It's was left there without solid answers.
I'm sorry if this post irritate others. Deeply sorry..
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Well. i'm sick reading ur negative comment & others which not helping instead starting flame of anger.. I'm pretty sure soul mean 'ours' is community. U talk like Albert Einstein.. To show u the only one smart, intellegent & u know 1000 things thats others don't. Geez.. I often come here & read. I've read spanky old forum...natescomp. or something like that. I used 2.5 assist long enough than u do.. when 2.5 assist created by johnnym for mac users which abandoned by Americas Army.
They appeal in a correct way to have a their gameplay, a few people came & start hustling the others... grown up please. Some was by an forum admin?. Pathetic!.
Please learn to be a forum admin like Americas Army moderator or Admin or others good forum. I think All admin here should re'thinking' about inmature behaviour by Admins. I'm accepting if trash word come from forum members. But sadly from admin too?.
For me this modded issue always been raised up because everytime its appeared there no solutions to it. It's was left there without solid answers.
I'm sorry if this post irritate others. Deeply sorry..
Couldn't be said better.
I said a lot of times for eliz to reconsider staff, it's getting out of control. Ganja is a smart one, starting war with him will start war with all admins so watch out.
There has been ass licking for years. (bolie, ganja and many more)
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Well. i'm sick reading ur negative comment & others which not helping instead starting flame of anger.. I'm pretty sure soul mean 'ours' is community. U talk like Albert Einstein.. To show u the only one smart, intellegent & u know 1000 things thats others don't. Geez.. I often come here & read. I've read spanky old forum...natescomp. or something like that. I used 2.5 assist long enough than u do.. when 2.5 assist created by johnnym for mac users which abandoned by Americas Army.
They appeal in a correct way to have a their gameplay, a few people came & start hustle the others... grown up please. Some was by an forum admin?. Pathetic!.
Please learn to be a forum admin like Americas Army moderator or Admin or others good forum. I think All admin here should re'thinking' about inmature behaviour by Admins. I'm accepting if trash word come from forum members. But sadly from admin too?.
For me this modded issue always been raised up because everytime its appeared there no solutions to it. It's was left there without solid answers.
I'm sorry if this post irritate others. Deeply sorry..
First of all I don't see what's so negative about my post. I was just explaining to Soul that he'd have more chances to make things change if he could gather more "pro-mods" players. There's no need to be Einstein to understand that.
And second point ... I'm no admin so your whole admin point doesn't stand. Nice try at "starting flame of anger"
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There has been ass licking for years. (bolie, ganja and many more)
You know, that's really getting on my nerves. I don't see Ganja or Bollie getting special treatment. In all honesty, I don't consider them friends, in fact, Bollie usually irritates me more than not. Ganja, he's an alright dude just doing what he's doing. I don't see any favoring or behind the scenes help going on. Ganja is in the RM group because 98% of the time he's not a hothead, has valuable opinions and has been around AA long enough and just wants to help because he loves this game. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing but to me, it doesn't exist.
If anything, I think you're just mad for not being taken seriously due to your flaming behavior. You want more respect but aren't willing to give it. Everywhere you go, you stir up shit. You had your chance and for whatever reason, it's gone now.
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You know, that's really getting on my nerves. I don't see Ganja or Bollie getting special treatment. In all honesty, I don't consider them friends, in fact, Bollie usually irritates me more than not. Ganja, he's an alright dude just doing what he's doing. I don't see any favoring or behind the scenes help going on. Ganja is in the RM group because 98% of the time he's not a hothead, has valuable opinions and has been around AA long enough and just wants to help because he loves this game. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing but to me, it doesn't exist.
If anything, I think you're just mad for not being taken seriously due to your flaming behavior. You want more respect but aren't willing to give it. Everywhere you go, you stir up shit. You had your chance and for whatever reason, it's gone now.
It was an okay discussion ( you have to agree with that) until some people opened their mouth. I was talking to eliz and giving points yet someone opens mouth and changes the words and meanings which led me to flaming others and showing their real attitude.
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-This replied to Ganja-
I always saw your influences here & u reply almost on topic, make a post & build up trust in this main community. You always have a smart opinion, helpful, etc. Seems like u was here 24/7.
Well.. It's never a chance to win debate or any discussions with some type of person.. They always have 1001 reason. They always make look he was smart while others looking on different perspectives. I think enough of this crap talks. I will not reply any personal issue, on topic & try to keep on topics. If u want further discussion contact me on PM. It's will be quiet discussion between 2 people.
Thanks again Spanky who always came with some good answers like always. :up:
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Since the only way we can move forward is to get a consensus of the community, I've started a poll. Vote now.
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why only sf? why not other mods?
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Good spanks!
But sadly i read you have no love for me... aaaah haha :cheer:
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You guys should make a table, and people suggesting what mods would be acceptable to introduce back with sf mod, you get an idea? talk about certain mods and would they be good to bring them back.
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Its should be a great starts, Spanky. I hope its gonna end this long story.
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@Spanky, dont you mean SF mod and Force Class, other basic guns?
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@Spanky, dont you mean SF mod and Force Class, other basic guns?
See, that's the point, we have to make sure we're talking about the same thing.
Hang wants only SF (if I understand it right)
Soul wants to be able to FC all guns, but keep it realistic
Army wants to be able to jump high and shoot rocket ammo
I guess Spanky made a poll about SF only right now
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I can play any mods offered.. lol. For who want mods. Well, for me its better SF than nothing, ... haha.
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There's no chance that forceclassing RPG will be tracked. The way I see it, it's SF or nothing. SF is by far the most popular thing requested. People don't expect sniper or pistol rounds to be tracked.
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SF with only 1 203 would be perfect. :idea:
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In poll its not about % between yes and no voters but how many did vote voor sf tracket . Simpel if youhave 10000 people that vote 4500 for and 5500 aganst . Than you must be a strong guy to dissepoint the very big groupof 4500 that for that moment did vote.
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SF or nothing thanks Spanky for a well baleced thought out yet simple reply. The rest seem to struggle with these simple decissions. Bring on the poll. I know every time I went to Do Not and Friends it always filled up with players. If you add in that its tracked it will be more popular. Dont know why people want to be tracked. But they do.
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I will quit this game if mods will be tracked.
The game was designed without mods and it should stay this way - if you wanna have your so called "fun" then have it - but not tracked -
this is just not true. you had the possiblity to activate "god mode" and others - done by the aa2 dev's
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this is just not true. you had the possiblity to activate "god mode" and others - done by the aa2 dev's
You're talking about multiplayer cheats. And they've been available for as long as I've played this game. However, I don't think they were ever tracked nor should they be.
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right, it wasn't tracked at all. but it was implemented by aa2 dev's - just a respond at the part about "aa2 wasn't build to play mods...)
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right, it wasn't tracked at all. but it was implemented by aa2 dev's - just a respond at the part about "aa2 wasn't build to play mods...)
Well, he is right actually. Multiplayer cheats and mods are totally different things. Mods allow you to change all the game mechanics (including points per kill, jump hight, rpg bullets) whereas with multiplayer cheats you can only do a set of things (such as weapon select, god mode and slomo).
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Its gowing good 12 people for and 5 accounts from ganja aganst :)
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Its gowing good 12 people for and 5 accounts from ganja aganst :)
That's not how it works. One person can't vote more than once. Even if he has more than one account.
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Its gowing good 12 people for and 5 accounts from ganja aganst :)
Hahaha haven't voted yet ;) I don't think I am going to vote because I won't be that active anymore. Let the very active people decide
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Well, he is right actually. Multiplayer cheats and mods are totally different things. Mods allow you to change all the game mechanics (including points per kill, jump hight, rpg bullets) whereas with multiplayer cheats you can only do a set of things (such as weapon select, god mode and slomo).
just to be precise: it's also made to have fun. this i mean, an i am right i know. no need for an answer :D
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Finally we have to vote about Sf mods.. How long is gonna be on the voting?? :) :) :)
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Finally we have to vote about Sf mods.. How long is gonna be on the voting?? :) :) :)
I believe it's been 2 weeks usually.
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It's better than nothing, if not spanky I am not sure where this community would be, spanky never dissapoints, AGAIN ps where is his promotion ;)
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Use this thread to continue the discussion:
http://aao25.com/forum/general-chat-90/should-sf-forceclassmod-be-tracked-the-thread/ (http://aao25.com/forum/general-chat-90/should-sf-forceclassmod-be-tracked-the-thread/)