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Take a minute and say this out loud and let it soak in. If you still don't get it, say it to a mirror.

... It PROVOKES climate change.
Without fancy words: Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig ... We shifted the coming of the next ice age for some good dozen / tens of thousands years ahead - 'is just behind the door'.  So, frankly speaking: We Are Pretty Much F******.

I guess we're on climate change now? Not sure why people still deny it's a thing. It's quite humorous.
Here's some links that may interest you vegeta. I don't have to time to properly search into this but a quick search showed plenty of results for climate change support. Some of these are public and free articles. I do have access to many scientific articles from academic and professional peer reviewed journals but unfortunately a lot of them are behind a pay wall and I only have access to them from being a University of Michigan student so not able to link anything substantial. But if it's just the amount of people agreeing with climate change you want, take a look at all of these scientific articles. Sure you can actually read most of them, but the abstract describes what they're about.

http://www.sciencemag.org/search?site_area=sciencejournals&y=0&fulltext=climate%20change&x=0&journalcode=sci&journalcode=sigtrans&journalcode=scitransmed&submit=yes

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/
http://climate.nasa.gov/

If you don't trust US government sites.

http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702/1686.full

I'll also give you an except from that last link

Climate is a vastly more complex system then temperature. So obviously a significant increase in temprature can change other aspects of the climate, which in turn can - without a doubt - result in a reduction in temperature.
I didn't read any of the links Killa put up, but I'd bet some of them also talk about how exactly this happens.

However, I'll give you an easy example. You know, when the Earth got struck with an asteroid (or meteor? I don't really know) some 65 million years ago (when the dinosours were wiped out), the asteroid also brought a lot more energy to the earth, immense heat near where the asteroid landed (hence the glass that formed nearby). So temperature should have risen, right? No, because it also made these huge dust clouds that completely covererd the Earth from sunlight and thus made it colder (plus, of coure significantly lessened the oxygen being created). Of course this is just a simplification, but what it means is that it's not just about the one change you see at first site.
The reason I chose this example (while there are others), is because it's also a sudden change (even though infitely more sudden than what we're seeing right now in climate change).


Another thing I've been dying to discuss is your apparant hatred towards citations. I don't suppose you've been a part of a scientific research party? Or even read a scientific article, for that matter?
They are almost always composed of a lot of citations from other, earlier works. If you had to thurally explain every aspect of what you're doing in every article, all the articles would be 10 times longer and would take more than 10 times as long to write, because a lot of the things would need supporting experiments. You cannot do without citing other people's work.

The same should apply in here. Chances are, none of us will have seen evolution at a macro scale, because nobody claims it to work in one generation (and probably none, or very few of us, have scientificly observed it themselves), just as probably none us have themselves measured global warming as it's to do with climate change and climate is a sort of long term whether, the change of which can't be measured within one decade. But the same way, you did not see - let alone write - the actions in the bible. We're all just recollecting  (sometimes even citing) what we've seen others do.


OK, well let's try to talk on "topic" here.
Have you ever seen how the human embryo evolves in the uterus? It first looks like a fish and then starts forming more of a human shape. There are many stages of this transformation. It was taught to us in High School, and while I haven't seen it first hand, I have no reason to doubt the research done decades before my time.
Obviously the embryo won't have an "ape" shape, since that's such a small milestone in our evolution, however if this doesn't show that we evolved from another species, I don't know what would.

What a joke Killaman now decides he wants to come in and have a serious conversation. Because He seems to think that he knows something on global warming/climate change. You have looked up a couple of on board siites that are slanted to the goverments agenda. heard about it all in school. You singed up aswell because the "scientists said so" Go and do some reasearch of your own and once you have a balenced view come back and tell us both sides until you know both sides go away and dont expect me to read that tripe until YOU know what your talking about.

Haha, you're linking to a picture. If that's evidence enough for you, I can give you one where I'm on the moon.

EDIT:
And looking at the first entry if searching the web (rather than for pictures), I can find:And that's from a religious point of veiw.

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Pretty funny that Vegeta asks for intelligent discussion but chooses to ignore the facts then says that's what we're doing.