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America's Army => General Chat => Drama & Spam => Topic started by: Vanoke on Monday, November 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
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After a long time of great gameplay this event stops.
Constant criticism about nothing now also with help from Assist admins from
Ganja ,Ronski, And admin Teddy . This guy are friend in game and helping each other to
break my possitieve work and feelings for this BCD.
Waiting for a bad word of me so they can jump on me to puth me in a bad daylight. for me the fun is over
THX all . Its a sad way to stop but its not the first time that thise people led me down in this gameplay
I go play =PUF=server and hope to see you all ther!!
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What happened? Sad to see BCD go away
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Stop being childish. Really.
Everyone commenting on the forum wanted to help you make this event and it's announcements better, so that someone seeing it for the first time would understand what it is and older players could quickly get what maps are played this week.
Nobody wants you to quit doing it, we just want to help you. You need to understand that. Help us to help you.
I doubt ronski nor Ganja have anything against the event or you, I know I certainly don't. We just want to help you make it better.
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I would guess you could get on Teamspeak and have a chat with both Teddy and Ronski. If the matter is about clearing up the criticism you mentioned, which is anyway related not to your work as a whole but to the way the information is displayed, and has been mentioned in relation to announcements in the past.
P.s. and Vanoke, you know i also sent you a private message instead of posting on the thread today in order to be polite, it would be nice from you to keep a conversation with everyone and eventually not get straight ahead to conclusion as you did above.
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I would guess you could get on Teamspeak and have a chat with both Teddy and Ronski.
What he said.. I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding. Everybody appreciates any help to get some action going in the community especially help like yours Vanoke
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this question was bin talking many times and they know my inputh and the way it works its a discussion about nothing 1 announcement a week and all work together for 3 hour all maps must be played if possible is that so difficult . stop telling me that i do wrong.
If people do not read ore come to website assist its not my fould .
I even try to link people to this site with my facebook in shoutbox and in game.
And ther they can see the inputh of som guys that tells me your wrinting is to long.
So i can say its a total so you can see all in ones. HOOAH ! GOOD HEY !
And Ronski i did tell you ones be your self, but it looks like you chosen the other site.
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It's really a pity to see you stop for such stupid reasons, you did a good job, pity you couldn't accept criticism. Don't count on me to suck your **** in order for you to come back. You're supposed to be an adult so please start acting like one !
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this question was bin talking many times and they know my inputh and the way it works its a discussion about nothing 1 announcement a week and all work together for 3 hour all maps must be played if possible is that so difficult . stop telling me that i do wrong.
If people do not read ore come to website assist its not my fould .
I even try to link people to this site with my facebook in shoutbox and in game.
And ther they can see the inputh of som guys that tells me your wrinting is to long.
So i can say its a total so you can see all in ones. HOOAH ! GOOD HEY !
And Ronski i did tell you ones be your self, but it looks like you chosen the other site.
I know what you told me, you think I can't have my own way of thinking? I have to choose either your or Ganja's side, I can't have mine? I have tried to help you all the time, I even offered you that I could do a website for Big Clan Day. If I dont agree with you in something, for example banning people because of ghosting, that doesnt mean Im turning my back to you in everything. Im always just asking people to think one more time to be reasonable.
I know your input and I appreciate it, but I also see how it always gets personal between you and watnc. I honestly agree with no brainwashing that the same long info you share every week is
A) too hard text to read
B) still not informative enough
C) too long people doesnt read them because of facts A) and B)
I would create Big Clan Day page where put the info of BCD ( aao25.com/bcd , put link to the page to main navigation ) and then publish every weeks details to news section clearly with fluent english. Keep it simple.
But if you want to point your fingers at someone, blame me and leave Teddy outside of it. Keep the event going but remove my admin privileges, Im done with it.
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I know what you told me, you think I can't have my own way of thinking? I have to choose either your or Ganja's side, I can't have mine? I have tried to help you all the time, I even offered you that I could do a website for Big Clan Day. If I dont agree with you in something, for example banning people because of ghosting, that doesnt mean Im turning my back to you in everything. Im always just asking people to think one more time to be reasonable.
I know your input and I appreciate it, but I also see how it always gets personal between you and watnc. I honestly agree with no brainwashing that the same long info you share every week is
A) too hard text to read
B) still not informative enough
C) too long people doesnt read them because of facts A) and B)
I would create Big Clan Day page where put the info of BCD ( aao25.com/bcd , put link to the page to main navigation ) and then publish every weeks details to news section clearly with fluent english. Keep it simple.
But if you want to point your fingers at someone, blame me and leave Teddy outside of it. Keep the event going but remove my admin privileges, Im done with it.
I did make Friends for BCD ad the end becose your inputh was already poor ! its up to Koden if BCD will stay, And you do not have to chosen between me and Ganja i never did say that,. i did say stay your self nothing more !!! if BCD will come back you will be no admin and the rest of seke to so you have free hand to start your own BCD on sunday and rollos in shoutbox THX for help m8 !
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great, have fun :up:
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Wait a minute, what I have done to deserve this kind of treatment? You hate me because some other individual say something / tryes to help? I have always supported BDC and like it so why punish me and all other seke members? I haven't been in every BCD but that dosen't mean that I don't like it or don't support it. We also got the BCD going the whole summer so dont tell me that I have done poor support for BCD. I hope that BCD still goes on but it would be nice to listen if others have ways to improve BCD. Lets keep it going TOGETHER so BCD would be improved for better. I also know you have done much work for BCD, we all know it. We are not trying to get you mad but try to help you, peace :)
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Wait a minute, what I have done to deserve this kind of treatment? You hate me because some other individual say something / tryes to help? I have always supported BDC and like it so why punish me and all other seke members? I haven't been in every BCD but that dosen't mean that I don't like it or don't support it. We also got the BCD going the whole summer so dont tell me that I have done poor support for BCD. I hope that BCD still goes on but it would be nice to listen if others have ways to improve BCD. Lets keep it going TOGETHER so BCD would be improved for better. I also know you have done much work for BCD, we all know it. We are not trying to get you mad but try to help you, peace :)
True, Im representing my own opinion while saying I agree with Ganja and Teddy. Vanoke you're really showing the other side of you..
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Vanoke is powerhungry and Big Clan Day is his baby. Nobody can give advice because otherwise he can't say he did it on his own. Then saying he quits, make a news anouncement about it to let everyone know he's not happy and make people beg him to stay. I used to be like that when I was seven.
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Wait a minute, what I have done to deserve this kind of treatment? You hate me because some other individual say something / tryes to help? I have always supported BDC and like it so why punish me and all other seke members? I haven't been in every BCD but that dosen't mean that I don't like it or don't support it. We also got the BCD going the whole summer so dont tell me that I have done poor support for BCD. I hope that BCD still goes on but it would be nice to listen if others have ways to improve BCD. Lets keep it going TOGETHER so BCD would be improved for better. I also know you have done much work for BCD, we all know it. We are not trying to get you mad but try to help you, peace :)
Sorry i was seeing this as a total clan was not realise this way in my anger. If seke members still want to join this ask. but i realy feel the presure to stop. When assist want to do this event they have my blessing.
I did had a writing with KODEN to led it stay but if assits wants this take it.
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So does that mean i lose my admin rights sheeettt :cry:
but it would be lame if u quited bcd man ;)
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Sorry i was seeing this as a total clan was not realise this way in my anger. If seke members still want to join this ask. but i realy feel the presure to stop. When assist want to do this event they have my blessing.
I did had a writing with KODEN to led it stay but if assits wants this take it.
No matter how many times I read through my posts here at forum I can't see where I was misleading you to think these were our clans words not mine. Maybe at =PUF= facebook group? Not sure because you already removed me from there before you started this topic. Im quite sure though that this and "...15-11-2015 enjoy the game!" topics inludes all I've said.
It felt quite odd that you thought our support was poor, while we were the ones keeping the event alive during the summer. Maybe it just was my time to misunderstand the other, it was just me whose support was poor.
Im glad you understood that other seke's has nothing to with this so there is no need to burn all the roads for nothing.
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No matter how many times I read through my posts here at forum I can't see where I was misleading you to think these were our clans words not mine. Maybe at =PUF= facebook group? Not sure because you already removed me from there before you started this topic. Im quite sure though that this and "...15-11-2015 enjoy the game!" topics inludes all I've said.
It felt quite odd that you thought our support was poor, while we were the ones keeping the event alive during the summer. Maybe it just was my time to misunderstand the other, it was just me whose support was poor.
Im glad you understood that other seke's has nothing to with this so there is no need to burn all the roads for nothing.
You to close with Ganja and he is a lier and manipulates people. read this and its about creating a server on the same time and 4 maps on prime time BCD and rollos announce 4 maps 19.50 hour sunday and he dussent know nothing about BCD did say GANJA ! ( PLAY THE GAME ITS IS , What game are they playing i think) Ganja is not stupit and rollos also not but here they did trow a smoke granade in forum .>>>> after this and the rest my stommick was full. inc all the rest of the support.>>>>
( So you never told him about BCD This is A BIG joke :crying: , And it also tells somthing about you ,You know all about it and i am sure rollos know it to so stop making this stupit, innocent conversations its to weard to believe.
I stop talking to you and that crap team of you its realy fucking unbelieveble. Don`t play with me Ganja !!! :down: Good bye )<<<<<<<<<<
About support yes you guy did summer BCD the maps that you like and alot seke members were ther everytime , After summer 3 sundays you guy diddent come and after talking and asking seke did come somtimes. ( becose some players cant play som maps so you guys want to stick together and diddent come)
so how can i make a believeble B CLAN D. after one year this event must work out of his self but no it look i have to do all trying to get som help form friends of BCD . and luckely a little help from Swiss clan till 22.00 hour becose they can t stay the whole evening. so one guy looks like must controll everytime this nice event.
I am getting tired of complains and the mass that you guys in words talk to me about a little thing that nobuddy reads like ganja did say, : the ANNOUNCEMENT . looks like sooooo inportant come on so inportant is it not the people that read this are 30 guys in this site and they know exectly what ther is standing ore what the meaning is.
And only Ronsky is the player that has rights to speak becose from those 3 he is the one that play regulair in bcd.
Ganja is always complaining is it not in game than after the game in forum BCD for the 20 minuts he is playing in 10 weeks ( SPAM ) if i read you post its all spam but i did say that in the past also .
Teddy : i understand that you do nothing know about BCD i never did see you joining.
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So from my understanding you're willing to stop an event a lot of people participate in because of a disagreement with a few people? Sounds like a huge overreaction. What happened to the days when people just ignored others? Everything about this topic is ridiculously petty.
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So from my understanding you're willing to stop an event a lot of people participate in because of a disagreement with a few people? Sounds like a huge overreaction. What happened to the days when people just ignored others? Everything about this topic is ridiculously petty.
And if that is the case and someone wants to keep a planned weekly event going then please PM me and I can hand over ownership of the big clan day american servers to them to help keep the community playing together on planned days/times, can be called what ever you guys want. Vortex just wants to help keep the events going :)
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I am getting tired of complains and the mass that you guys in words talk to me about a little thing that nobuddy reads like ganja did say, : the ANNOUNCEMENT . looks like sooooo inportant come on so inportant is it not the people that read this are 30 guys in this site and they know exectly what ther is standing ore what the meaning is.
You're right, almost everybody on the forums knows what the even is about, but you're missing the point. I'll make it bold for you:
Everyone commenting on the forum wanted to help you make this event and it's announcements better, so that someone seeing it for the first time would understand what it is and older players could quickly get what maps are played this week.
You're right, I haven't played in BCD more than twice. But I do visit this forum daily and have seen all your endless posts. All I'm talking about is a more straight and to the point announcement. I see you want to do everything by yourself, but it's totally OK to sometimes let other people help you.
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Still no word about what made you to imagine it was whole clan "attacking you" while I was writing as my self.
You to close with Ganja and he is a lier and manipulates people.
Wow, are you listening to yourself? Quite harsh accuse. Yes I've been trying to get close as many person as possible, I dislike having enemies. When I started the game I had my own fights with Ganja, Wickid and later with Bernard as well but look us now. To get one known better as person doesn't mean the other is manipulative. Even if we are small community there still are hundreds of persons around and every one of them is different. Usually chat in game is the place where misunderstandings starts. People tries to get their point clear as shortly as possible, most of the times misunderstandings can be solved elsewhere. That is maybe the biggest difference between us, I wan't to solve misunderstandings Im facing. I don't know why but when I see injustice or someone needs help I try to help all the ways I can.
About support yes you guy did summer BCD the maps that you like and alot seke members were ther everytime , After summer 3 sundays you guy diddent come and after talking and asking seke did come somtimes. ( becose some players cant play som maps so you guys want to stick together and diddent come)
so how can i make a believeble B CLAN D. after one year this event must work out of his self but no it look i have to do all trying to get som help form friends of BCD . and luckely a little help from Swiss clan till 22.00 hour becose they can t stay the whole evening. so one guy looks like must controll everytime this nice event.
After the summer you changed the whole concept. Earlier there was actual co-operation between clans, now you wanted to pick all maps by yourself making the event more boring for clans. You did great job doing all those .gifs and I know it was hard to choose maps for two servers for the whole year. I think you should ( because you wanted to do it all by yourself ) but you just don't get it that others wanted to be there choosing maps as well. Last spring and during the summer we in our clan had loads of whatsapp conversations around maps we want to have, took pros and cons from them and especially during last summer we learned by listening players and from their behaviour the most suitable way to choose maps. I told you the way too: take mixture of long distance and close combats, maximum of two of SF's, put only one low fps map ( = AA3 map ), put the less interesting / small area - or smallest slot count map as first, because people are usually joining after the first map. During the second and third map server tends to be full. So minimum of slots per map is 26 at that point, if possible take map where you have even more slots. And for the last map pick the most interesting map of the day that you know people want's to play, then they are hanging in there till the end if it's possible for them.
So when the event started on this fall you kind of forgot the rest of clans and started running the event alone. You needed us there as players, not for any kind of co-operation. I honestly don't think we must be there every week, especially didn't feel like that after summer when you crushed all the co-operation there was. Like I said to you, some of us are suffering of lack of fps in many maps, we have quite a lot active players and we like to play together. When BCD server was empty during those three weeks, it wasn't because we were not there - it was because of maps you chose. I don't remember what were there and doesn't bother to check them out or even list them, no need for that. On the other hand if server was empty because we were not there, what does it tell to you?
I am getting tired of complains and the mass that you guys in words talk to me about a little thing that nobuddy reads like ganja did say, : the ANNOUNCEMENT . looks like sooooo inportant come on so inportant is it not the people that read this are 30 guys in this site and they know exectly what ther is standing ore what the meaning is.
You are continuously missing the point we had there. You should have pinned post where are rules and info about the event, and then every week just announce what maps are being played and who is there as main admin. Every week your post can contain some short info in fluent english, but you honestly should keep the weekly info as short as possible, just link to the pinned post where are rules explained more clearly and inform admins elsewhere. Your weekly announcement could look for example like this:
Clans from Americas Army community presents to you
BIG CLAN DAY 22nd NOVEMBER 2015
Three hours lasting event is cathering up players inside the community to play different maps on every sunday at two continents. We present to you two servers at Europe and one server at America, introducing to you every map from the game, four maps per day & always both sides of the map. Each map will be played 45mins and on half way of it will sides be swapped. We hope you are not remaining while side are being swapped so as many as possible are able to play on both sides.
This week at FRIENDS OF BIG CLAN DAY server will be played following maps:
20.00-20.45 CET - Rummage
20.45-21.30 CET - SF Dockside
21.30-22.15 CET - ESL Dusk
22.15-23.00 CET - Weapons Cache
Besides the great games in various maps we are also offering to you a Teamspeak channel at official teamspeak server: ts.aao25.com
You don't have to be in a clan to join, you're already a part of the Big Clan called Americas Army Community, welcome all and have fun :up:
There are every week people asking for another map and wondering why they are being swapped etc. They are not familiar with the concept. That's why you need to take another look into the information that is being shared about the event and like Ganja analysed your post, it doesn't tell much for person who has no idea what Big Clan Day is.
And only Ronsky is the player that has rights to speak becose from those 3 he is the one that play regulair in bcd.
Ganja is always complaining is it not in game than after the game in forum BCD for the 20 minuts he is playing in 10 weeks ( SPAM ) if i read you post its all spam but i did say that in the past also .
Teddy : i understand that you do nothing know about BCD i never did see you joining.
Partly correct; I've tried to be there every week after those three first week of this fall, I know Ganja is suffering from lack of fps even while starting up his pc, so maybe because of that he dislikes joining the event. Or maybe its the personal between you guys, wasn't he even banned from the server? I think Rollos at least was. And if you haven't noticed Teddy doesn't play that much in general. That doesn't mean they wouldn't still love to see the only event running.
What comes to support from my side, when I've been there it's me who has always removed prior kick/ban list that comes for example from ignoring md5 tools bug. During those days when my admin rights was somehow removed I wrote the command for you to clear the buglist so the player could join back as soon as possible. I've tried every sunday to get you BCD admins to discuss with each other via csay commands, because it honestly looks ridiculous while admins are wondering or - like in some point - arguing about stuff in global chat. And so on..
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Partly correct; I've tried to be there every week after those three first week of this fall, I know Ganja is suffering from lack of fps even while starting up his pc, so maybe because of that he dislikes joining the event. Or maybe its the personal between you guys, wasn't he even banned from the server? I think Rollos at least was. And if you haven't noticed Teddy doesn't play that much in general. That doesn't mean they wouldn't still love to see the only event running.
What comes to support from my side, when I've been there it's me who has always removed prior kick/ban list that comes for example from ignoring md5 tools bug. During those days when my admin rights was somehow removed I wrote the command for you to clear the buglist so the player could join back as soon as possible. I've tried every sunday to get you BCD admins to discuss with each other via csay commands, because it honestly looks ridiculous while admins are wondering or - like in some point - arguing about stuff in global chat. And so on..
Ahaha ofcourse our entire clan was banned because Vanoke calls us "ghosters" and because it's not funny when we play same team, it's no fun for others (can't find the post where he said that but he did).
How can you expect me to join BCD if I'm banned on it Vanoke ?
Also call me whatever you want but I can swear to you Rollos has no idea that BCD is even an event, that's why he's posting maps on the shoutbox, because he sees you doing the same.
In some topics you says "my long posts are meant for people who have no idea what BCD is" and in other topics you say "it's for some small amount of people who already have the idea what it is". So how can you make a proper anouncement if you don't even know who you're targetting ...
But I'll keep my mouth shut about Big Clan Day from now on, I've seen your attitude problems and I see you're not willing to co-operate, that's fine by me, I hope your baby BCD is not going to die.
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I've said and seen enough as well, so no worries - no more criticism coming from me. All good for the future.
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keep up the good work.
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Vanoke, you did say that o me many times: head up!
go on......i am waiting for the new maps to play.
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Yes nick i am stoping . I dont have explain everytime that i only want to play the game that i did prepair for a whole year. So i do not have to do alot every week like befor . Nothing i perfect .
thx all bcd is over for me.
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Is Big Clan Day over for you only or do you want to shut down the entire project?
I mean I am sure some people could gladly take it over if you don't want to do the work anymore, but since it's you who started the project it's up to you wether or not it continues without you.
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Is Big Clan Day over for you only or do you want to shut down the entire project?
I mean I am sure some people could gladly take it over if you don't want to do the work anymore, but since it's you who started the project it's up to you wether or not it continues without you.
I've had a short conversation with Vanoke by PM's (where i also offered to and actually re-wrote/format one of his announcements) but it basically ended up with Vanoke clearly stating that he's not going to continue to manage the event on his own. I'm going to guess this leaves open other ways and other people, i remember Seke already held a couple times the event during summer.
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I've had a short conversation with Vanoke by PM's (where i also offered to and actually re-wrote/format one of his announcements) but it basically ended up with Vanoke clearly stating that he's not going to continue to manage the event on his own. I'm going to guess this leaves open other ways and other people, i remember Seke already held a couple times the event during summer.
Lol I thought you sent a long pm instead of short chat when those NSA tools spotted you ;)
Yea we took over it during last summer to keep it alive. It's sad to see it taking its last breath now, hopefully someone revieves it. I guess our hands are tied though, and of course I would need to stay out of it anyway.
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Also if same or similar concept will be continuing, you need to find server(s) for that use, Nick already offered American event server, but in Europe there's no server ready to be used because BCD servers seems to be taken down, which is understandable.
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Vanoke, you did say that o me many times: head up!
go on......i am waiting for the new maps to play.
Merlin you must know what happens when people say they quit ... they come back ;)
[SWISS]Merlin 1h [AAO25]
vanoke, not even your teamspeak adress is working
i am out - finaly and for ever. this is not the way i think it should go.
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Also if same or similar concept will be continuing, you need to find server(s) for that use, Nick already offered American event server, but in Europe there's no server ready to be used because BCD servers seems to be taken down, which is understandable.
Since EU were taken down then I can offer one or two in the Netherlands as well :)
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Since EU were taken down then I can offer one or two in the Netherlands as well :)
That is great! :up:
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- about the concept should be rewritten (Roski): as you know, the most Players do not join this forum, so no Need to rewrite it. maybe a better announcement at scrolling text on the server itself.
- vanoke Comes back - perfect
- nick offers 2 europe servers - perfect. then the ping is acceptable for all Players. vanoke, take the offer please (and thanks to nick)
- reduce the admin rights on those new servers to one admin for each clan
- make some scrolling text on those servers for better Player information.
- i can help if needed.
- do it!
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- about the concept should be rewritten (Roski): as you know, the most Players do not join this forum, so no Need to rewrite it. maybe a better announcement at scrolling text on the server itself.
- vanoke Comes back - perfect
- nick offers 2 europe servers - perfect. then the ping is acceptable for all Players. vanoke, take the offer please (and thanks to nick)
- reduce the admin rights on those new servers to one admin for each clan
- make some scrolling text on those servers for better Player information.
- i can help if needed.
- do it!
Since Im web-orientated guy, I think part of this differently. You say people doesn't read the forum ( fact is that even less reads BCD topics ). From my point of view as long as it is considered as issue that people are not reading the forum, we should do something for it.
How about:
- Automatic shout advertising the forum for example after every 100 shouts at shoutbox / siterep?
- Servers are having motd4-line that can't be written over from .ini's. These motd1-4 lines are the welcome text you see when you enter to server. Motd4 line can be edited from adminpanel, but usually there always reads something like: Americas Army 2,5 linux / windows server. How about adding forum info there?
- Also servers have lot's of automatically generated stuff at console, how about mentioning forum there too?
- How about adding forum banner to header of Assist application window, you know between the logo on left and player count details on right. Okay logo is a link to aao25.com ( which still has only link to forum, seems a bit raw imo ), but I bet I was the only one in months who clicked that link.
- How about all the loading screens, while you're entering to server? Any places there to add a little piece of advertisement?
Then when we get new forum users, they gets interested what is this Big Clan Day. Some of players speaks only a bit of english and not a single word of dutch. When they see announcement of the event that is written half in english and half in dutch they'll have hard time getting the information they need out of it.
And I disagree with reducing the amount of playeradmins to one per clan. Those administrative issues we've had have happened only because of unclear information between playeradmins.
Haven't thought this one through, the idea came up while writing this post but would it be possible to create hidden BCD Administrative section to forum, where BCD playeradmins could have all the conversation together to reduce misunderstandings over server?
edit: if I wrote a script to autocorrect misspellings of my name, would you admins add it to the site? lol
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It is very easy to make such a private board in the forums. It is probably more difficult to get people to actually check it.
Also, the loading screens already sometimes point to this website:
http://aao25.com/forum/rus-board/new-map-loading-screen-texts/ (http://aao25.com/forum/rus-board/new-map-loading-screen-texts/)
The other ideas seem good, I just don't know how easy they are to implement.
For example, the server messages and messages of the day can be changed by the admins and I'm not sure if there's a way to force a specific message to stay.
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It is very easy to make such a private board in the forums. It is probably more difficult to get people to actually check it.
Also, the loading screens already sometimes point to this website:
http://aao25.com/forum/rus-board/new-map-loading-screen-texts/ (http://aao25.com/forum/rus-board/new-map-loading-screen-texts/)
The other ideas seem good, I just don't know how easy they are to implement.
For example, the server messages and messages of the day can be changed by the admins and I'm not sure if there's a way to force a specific message to stay.
Great that some of those already exists. Like I said the fourth motd line can't be overruled from .ini, but it can be changed from adminpanel. Still most of servers are having the default text on it. So Im saying if they'll overrule it, then fine but it will be changed back to default after every restart.
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This will never work solong clans not help in this .we all know how poor the situation was . That killes tge BCD in my oppinion. the clans now stay on ther own servers and friends go to player friends servers. BCD was standing for PLAY ALL MAPS to gif people that like to play other maps a good time to but when admins from partisipating clans not come ore only play those maps that they like ore can play than its over . I am not standing stil i still have a free sunday evening to work together with my clan like all clans here are dowing choose for ther own plesure. So i wil play 4 maps next sunday only good maps so players dont walk away . Also it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work just like DON KELLO /MERLIN AND SPANKY DID ALOT AND admins from assist say nothing . That say somthing about how people are here Me!!,Me !!,Me !!
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This will never work solong clans not help in this .we all know how poor the situation was . That killes tge BCD in my oppinion. the clans now stay on ther own servers and friends go to player friends servers. BCD was standing for PLAY ALL MAPS to gif people that like to play other maps a good time to but when admins from partisipating clans not come ore only play those maps that they like ore can play than its over . I am not standing stil i still have a free sunday evening to work together with my clan like all clans here are dowing choose for ther own plesure. So i wil play 4 maps next sunday only good maps so players dont walk away . Also it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work just like DON KELLO /MERLIN AND SPANKY DID ALOT AND admins from assist say nothing . That say somthing about how people are here Me!!,Me !!,Me !!
First of all - it was you who was celebrating the full server after last sunday, as you noticed yourself - it was still alive. You're speaking of no support while we were still there. If you didn't notice, HT seemed to quit some time ago, Merlin decided to quit which had huge effort on SWISS clans players presence, but now HT seems to be coming back and Merlin is back as well. But all the time ( except those three first weeks ) we tried to be there.
Before you changed the whole concept it was clear which clan was hosting the event on which sunday. It worked like charm, on this fall that kind of information was not available and I guess that's why there were some administrative issues - it was unclear who was supposed to do and what.
Many of us have said - including me - that we appreciate your work. As much as you accepted our help you seem to accept our words where we're trying to give you something positive back.
In old BCD it was pleasure to be there - hosting or to get hosted by another clan, now it's more like duty to be there without a clue who does and what. I miss old BCD.
But if it's still unclear for you, thank you for your input for the community.
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You are not a admin of assist were a am talking over :?
and yes server was full happy me. But you dont know my feelings about all . They were not wat you think.
that is realy a sad story
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You are not a admin of assist
lol thanks for the info..
Let me bold these words of yours
Also it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work
Sorry I forgot to buy the red carpet and set up ceremonies...
edit: nice edit..
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call .. Dr. Phill :P
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Ronsky are you a guy that hits his woman and say it was her fould to.
you always try to get ride and if not you make a silly joke
common be serius!
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Ronsky are you a guy that hits his woman and say it was her fould to.
you always try to get ride and if not you make a silly joke
common be serius!
At first I was just disappointed in you, then a bit offended and now you managed to raise levels up from both ways of feeling.
What do you expect if you respond to my thanks and appreciations with only this sentence "you are not a admin of assist", which you edited afterwards two or even three times.
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Ronsky are you a guy that hits his woman and say it was her fould to.
Let's stay in topic and not get personal...please.
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It a way of talking exemple koden i feel that my experians and feelings in this is not accepted by ronsk . Alway talking thinks for himself clean so me Vanoke looks like i did kill ore diddent do good in BCD.
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It a way of talking exemple koden i feel that my experians and feelings in this is not accepted by ronsk . Alway talking thinks for himself clean so me Vanoke looks like i did kill ore diddent do good in BCD.
This is not the case, you've been helding the event for quite a long time, and with plenty of people playing that already is a sign of appreciation, you've been simply asked to make some modifications and make a few things clearer in order for the whole even to work better. Ronski actually noted he preferred some of the things you used to do in the past compared to the more recent ones because they were useful, is that negative for you?
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It a way of talking exemple koden i feel that my experians and feelings in this is not accepted by ronsk . Alway talking thinks for himself clean so me Vanoke looks like i did kill ore diddent do good in BCD.
Well you managed to choose a metaphor from the worst end.
Are you saying it was me who killed BCD?
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Its about the people that looks like did understand but all clans did do ther own think.
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Its about the people that looks like did understand but all clans did do ther own think.
You're saying BCD died because people seemed to understand, but then all clans began to think for themselves?
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Well you managed to choose a metaphor from the worst end.
Are you saying it was me who killed BCD?
No !!! it was the total from CLANS that diddent understand that BCD starts ad 20.00 hour till 23.00 hour
Also som of my clan diddent understand it, but its a free choise to come thats for sure !!
And that choise of freedom was not helping BCD .
I was if I were online sunday in BCD . you can`t say that for all Admins in BCD.
But thats not all, ther were no clans anymore, what did make me angry is the last time that one of the last clans were playing in a sub BCD from a lier Ganja and friends .
I can tell it a 1000 time but you guy only trow the ball back ( you diddent except our help its what 2 guys constandly screams here )
1- What help !!!! for a announcement that nobuddy reads! ( And now i read we must make a link to announcement so people come ) To late!!
2- The slots you must change the gameplay low 26 slots begin high 34 slots ad last. >>( I did make befor we go play in shoutbox the change so that was solft)
3- It dussent make out if it was SEKE ore HT ore SWISS but my last hope was the last clan .
But they diddent show up ( 3 weeks )after the hollydays becose the don`t want to seperat the clan,the problem was some of the players can`t play all maps becose a lagg problem. if i diddet ask way than possible you guys never showed up anymore.
Its ther own chois yes BUT BCD needs players ( Admins) to puth it on a hight level ( work together )
Summer BCD you guy did only play your maps that you guys can play . oke your own chois but BCD stands for PLAY all maps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
Ronski we did talk about this befor all this on FACEBOOK : what was the result >you except my point of view I did say; i did puth alot work in this and now i want to enjoy it, after a surtain time we will talk about it .
But everytime you come back with this YOU DON`T EXCEPT OUR HELP !! .
BCD DID WORK only alot ADMINS diddent understand it becose no intressed Becose Vanoke will do all.
My vision was 34 admins come a much as possible
2 euro servers
2 america server with help from euro players
after surtain time we change game play start time to get a better possision for the america gamers i did see the intressed falling down like a rock from the sky. butt we can expect that becose ther in america only a view guys understand it but on 3 ore 4 guys you cant run this. clans chose for ther self.
This is also happening in euro server they come they go when they like !!! becose Vanoke will be ther. and see now my stummick is full about all clans that do not understand the basic of BCD
1- ALL CLANs be ther
2 - We must Play all MAPS with enough slots
3 - start is 20.00HOUR TILL 23.00 hour
1 PUF around 50% Seke 50% Swiss new agan till 22.00 hour, the other 4 clans 5 % IGC never showed up lol
Ba^LA clan problems with ping so i stardet America BCD but never showed up leds see 3 other America clans 15 % meaby 20%
2 - PUF had no problem with it also any other clan never did talk about it only SEKE had a problem with it .
Itsd oke ther own chois but BCD is Play all maps.
3 - A view guy were ther yes from begin till end when possible. yes Vanoke did stay 45 minuts with 1 other guy in bcd together . and this was not ones ! but that you guy diddent see. only the full BCD`s he!!!
OK ! Sooo manny talk in this topic about closing BCD for my part i did my best and was ready to change but after i did enjoy the work i did make and not already after 3 weeks like Ronski did suggested agan and agan !
1 -And realy BCD is BCD ALL MAPS : And We DID
2 - SLOT CHANGE : I did LISSEN I DID LOOK AD IT AND CHANGE IT BEFOR START IN Shoutbox
3- I DID START 20.00 hour till 23.00 hour when it was possible , Can`t say that to alot admin players.
So what must be changet besite the Announcement that nobuddy did read but all understand that the .GIF will tell you the 4 maps we did play that evening .
ONLY 2 GUY WERE COMPLAINING SEVERAL TIMES . i think this was it not worth to make a big deal for soooo less changes !!!
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The clan who was most involved in BCD was seke u should be proud on them i am :)
whit out seke there was no BCD thats my opinion and dont tell me i choose there side or what ever ;)
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The clan who was most involved in BCD was seke u should be proud on them i am :)
whit out seke there was no BCD thats my opinion and dont tell me i choose there side or what ever ;)
Thats not the point !! you have to see this in totall!
if I did go on with BCD it would still exist with ore without other clans.
And also you can`t understand everything Supr3 . BCD was ready till next august 2016 all was ready !!
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Thats not the point !! you have to see this in totall!
if I did go on with BCD it would still exist with ore without other clans.
And also you can`t understand everything Supr3 . BCD was ready till next august 2016 all was ready !!
ye maybe i don't get it to well,
but why not go on whit bcd dude ?
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but why not go on whit bcd dude ?
Because: it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work , admins from assist say nothing . That say somthing about how people are here Me!!,Me !!,Me !!
Vanoke got a big ego-problem and wants everyone to say thank 10x a day for his super event. He's mad that the Assist admins (that probably never ever joined the event) didn't thank him enough times.
I mean if Assist admins were as egoistic as Vanoke, the game would be dead a few years ago. People don't thnk them all the time, but guess what, they are still here helping when they can. And don't need to take all the credit, and they accept criticism.
And now this:
But thats not all, ther were no clans anymore, what did make me angry is the last time that one of the last clans were playing in a sub BCD from a lier Ganja and friends .
Vanoke you just went from a childish adult to a complete (mod edit).
First of all who are you to call me a liar? What did I lie about?
Secondly go to your damn psy who can teach you how to deal with your paranoic problems, seriously it's becoming scary. You call our server a "sub BCD" ? Do you even realize how (modo edit) you are by saying that ? I've understand very well that BCD is your baby and I wouldn't dare take it from you trust me, you've made that point very clear already, but why for fuck sake are you saying we copied your event ? Also my entire clan has been banned by you on BCD for retarded reasons so don't come crying when we don't join your server anymore.
And last of all, just because you are too egoistic to keep BCD going, you don't have to try and find personal reasons with anyone. It's the second time you show your dark side, and I hope it's the last time.
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Vanoke got a big ego-problem and wants everyone to say thank 10x a day for his super event. He's mad that the Assist admins (that probably never ever joined the event) didn't thank him enough times.
Say 'thanks' doesn't hurt - believe me.
I mean if Assist admins were as egoistic as Vanoke, the game would be dead a few years ago. People don't thnk them all the time, but guess what, they are still here helping when they can. And don't need to take all the credit, and they accept criticism.
Oh believe me, they need ... and you where always the first in line.
Two years ago, when you guys refused my help, I gave this game max three years until inevitable - you have one more ... and THIS example is another step forward.
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Say 'thanks' doesn't hurt - believe me.
Oh believe me, they need ... and you where always the first in line.
Two years ago, when you guys refused my help, I gave this game max three years until inevitable - you have one more ... and THIS example is another step forward.
You missed my point. I've said good job to vanoke few times already, but I also gave advice for the future, and he only saw the negtive parts.
Also I never refused any help, I'm no admin what are you talking about
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Ganja this looks better in the right context : Also it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work just like DON KELLO /MERLIN AND SPANKY DID ALOT AND admins from assist say nothing . That say somthing about how people are here Me!!,Me !!,Me !!
About you are a lier :
We play for more that a year BCD i did make announcements, I did make it publiek in shoutbox so all can read.
You are almost a brother with Rollos constant in Teamspeak together.
Rollos was in BCD You were in BCD but becose you attetude you were not welcome anymore , later on you and rollos did come in agan but not much, but Rollos did had a weard problem he did got a high ping so he did go out becose he can`t hit.
My oppinion You and Rollos knows exact that BCD is a weekly event.
And you say Rollos diddent know nothing about a weekly BCD .
And yes your clan got ther own server last weekend and on the same time i Always startup BCD to tell all the 4 maps we play i see your m8 Rollos do the same come to ROLLOS AND GANJA S server today we play this 4 maps.
What a coincidence exact the same time and announcement like i do for BCD !!
And becose i am sure this can`t be a unlucky coincidence .becose you play more games .
Throw a smoke granade ganja like befor !
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Omg now I see, you are jealous because they happened to have server online, rollos shouted what maps he is going to host and we went playing there when bcd was about to start. I didn't know any of these was forbidden..
I've tried to be polite, but Im about to run out of kind words. Take a look at the mirror, all this bullshit we're going through here is just because you started to rage from one simple thing. If you'd be making the event for the community, you'd listen to it, but like you've shown you were doing it all the time for yourself so now I understand it better and actually because the way you started to act and the idear behind your inputh is revealed that it wasn't made in noble thoughts Im just glad that Im in no connection in your selfish event anymore.
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Ganja this looks better in the right context : Also it makes me sad that nobuddy did thx me for my work just like DON KELLO /MERLIN AND SPANKY DID ALOT AND admins from assist say nothing . That say somthing about how people are here Me!!,Me !!,Me !!
About you are a lier :
We play for more that a year BCD i did make announcements, I did make it publiek in shoutbox so all can read.
You are almost a brother with Rollos constant in Teamspeak together.
Rollos was in BCD You were in BCD but becose you attetude you were not welcome anymore , later on you and rollos did come in agan but not much, but Rollos did had a weard problem he did got a high ping so he did go out becose he can`t hit.
My oppinion You and Rollos knows exact that BCD is a weekly event.
And you say Rollos diddent know nothing about a weekly BCD .
And yes your clan got ther own server last weekend and on the same time i Always startup BCD to tell all the 4 maps we play i see your m8 Rollos do the same come to ROLLOS AND GANJA S server today we play this 4 maps.
What a coincidence exact the same time and announcement like i do for BCD !!
And becose i am sure this can`t be a unlucky coincidence .becose you play more games .
Throw a smoke granade ganja like befor !
Well what can I tell you .. Of course I am aware that BCD is a weekly event etc etc, ofcourse I speak every day with Rollos, but for some reason he had no idea that BCD was even a thing, call me a liar or even a lier if you want, i couldn't care less about what you think of me.
And so Rollos said in the shoutbox "today on watnc server, urban, mout, ..."
This is unacceptable, this should be forbidden by the law, to mention the maps that are going to be played, because only Vanoke can do that, he's the father of this entire concept, truly sorry ... facepalm
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You guys so funny . You both right i am all dowing it for my self . Kids forever .hooah
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Koden, you should say now also to the others "dont go personel", right?
i did leave because of this small part of community talking like this in here. all the same, complaining, critics and much more like personal attacks. i dont like and i dont need that. but who cares... also not to play only 2 maps, hospital and pipeline. therefor i support now as much as i can to get players back from aa4 - but you all should work on that too. not only talking and talking, filling up shout box like having a challenge who gets more text....
and yes, it isn't the way you should react on bcd's evening when vanoke is starting the servers to fill up - to start by yourself another server doing the same. i dont say now what i think about that, but i guess you can imagine.
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You guys so funny . You both right i am all dowing it for my self . Kids forever .hooah
And now we're childish? You're amazing..
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I think rollos was still banned from big clan day server, or at least from some of Vanokes servers so even if he was aware of big clan day, I understand his reasons for trying to fill the server.
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Ok, this is fair enough from both sides. Temporarily locked.
I would hope for the discussion to bring out ideas about the BCD itself. It's not the place to yell out anger against others, insulting and/or and bashing people. You're over here to play the game, having fun and not to end up hating each other. You can talk about issues with the adequate manners. You should not get personal against other players, no matter the choices they're making while playing the game. If you consistently do take the game too seriously, please consider taking a break.
Obviously this is addressed to everyone.