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America's Army => General Chat => Drama & Spam => Topic started by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 10:19:31 AM

Title: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
Said it before and I will say it again. AA is dead because we are left with the majority of selfish players. Who only think of them selves. They most players want easy kills. Most run to what ever side is winning for easy kills. That is where most players in here get there satisfaction. Makes me sick. Most of the time I play all I see is selfish play. There is no way round this and nothing has changed since I first started playing ten years ago. So it will never change because the bottom line is man is selfish and always was.  Then you have people who try to counter my clians just to try and justify how they play. Dont watse yours or my time with that crap. If its bridge they run for death. If its hospital the run for ambush. Doesnt matter selfish man runs for the line of least resistance. After watching reiment and arian today. Its the same old story Regiment wanted the idle kicked when The idle was on his side. But when reg was on the other side later. No it was ok to leave the idle with me to make it easy for him. Its his like that ruined the game. But hes not alone as I said he and most players 90% are the same. So hes not alone. There are some out an out campers in game they will always pick def, Right up until Ass is winning then they join ass. I dont understand why they do that. I played Ass for I would guess 80% of my AA life. I always joined the losing side. Not so for the majority in here. Every now and again I see a player join the losing side. WHan I say a player I mean a guy who is fully experianced with the game. I saw more noobs join assault than I ever saw 100 honours join assault. Most high honour players run to the points aswell. You all have a part in the demise of the game. If there is a way of showing how many hours I spent on ass someone please show it. I now spend more time on def than I ever did. Sick of trying to do the right thing when I am only pissing against the wind. I now go on def to at leat stop one sefish clown from getting the slot. I sit on def and watch hundreds  of times players come in cant get a def slot and leave. Or sit spectating trying repeatedly to get def. This is wht I also banned 3000 clowns. And quit a few of them are still here. If I had a full player mname list I would easy pick them out. So merry Chrsitmas ya filthy animals :)
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 13:19:12 PM
And now more players will stop playing, cause after reading the above they'll become blind.


You have nothing of any value.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Alex on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 14:22:47 PM
AA has bee "dead' and "dying" even since this project was started years ago and yet there are still plenty of people playing.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: SupR3me- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 14:44:41 PM
And now more players will stop playing, cause after reading the above they'll become blind.

Lol when i saw this comment i didn't even read haha
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Placid- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 14:52:20 PM
Ever thought about the fact that people just move on? Alot of people move on with their lives, move on to other games or got other priorities. Besides that, AA has no advertisements whatsoever, so its kinda hard to reach a new public. Popular shooters like CoD invest millions in marketing.

Its kinda weird you say its due the public who's playing it. Because in every game you got players who'll like and dislike. This counts for everyone. So no one is ruining it, not even you. Although your presence is (fill in the blank)

Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 15:24:16 PM
Placid we know all that I am talking about all the new players that come in and leave very soon ask admin if your not to sure. Killaman yopur kidding no one. Its not growing is it. So its dying.
Supreme never read but feels qualified to comment none the less clown
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 15:28:39 PM
You're an idiot if you really think there's new players coming to this game

Just old players with a lot of accounts lol including me ahhahahahhahahahhahahHHH

Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Scorpy on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 15:39:53 PM
lol lair u r not old ..lad  :P
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Placid- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 15:57:14 PM
Placid we know all that I am talking about all the new players that come in and leave very soon ask admin if your not to sure. Killaman yopur kidding no one. Its not growing is it. So its dying.
Supreme never read but feels qualified to comment none the less clown

Im not sure if there are new players joining regulary. And even if they do, then i doubt its due the players. The new players want fancy details and graphics, and ofc a gameplay that fits their mind, simular like CoD or BF. Atleast thats what i guess..
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 16:31:41 PM
But Vegeta is right, it is well seen that there are many players who are doing their all to save their fragrate, always picking the easy side and if can't get there - they leave. Or they care that much of their frag that they leave when it gets too weak for them.

I think the amount of active players has grown a bit, but from that amount you cant find many new players. But there are new ones as well - and more will come, at least that's where we should be targeting at.

But I dont think this would kill the game, I think more harmful is that people play only those same few maps every single day.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: SupR3me- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 16:42:00 PM
But Vegeta is right,

Zero Fucks given lol
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 16:46:32 PM
But Vegeta is right, it is well seen that there are many players who are doing their all to save their fragrate, always picking the easy side and if can't get there - they leave. Or they care that much of their frag that they leave when it gets too weak for them.

I think the amount of active players has grown a bit, but from that amount you cant find many new players. But there are new ones as well - and more will come, at least that's where we should be targeting at.

But I dont think this would kill the game, I think more harmful is that people play only those same few maps every single day.

lol I think all those frag rate pussies needs there accounts ban or disable stupid fucking tracker, fucking pathetic on a 11 year old game,

i always thought u enable cheat server,  u lose tracking on server guess not, guess it needs to be a modd server to stop tracking
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 16:55:27 PM
I know I've played mostly on escort at Hospital, but hospital is different kind of map when compared to those worst defence-sided maps like Pipeline and Bridge. Then if there is for example Village or CSAR on, you could name those players at defence side without even looking at playerlist.

Lol and another sad story of hunting easy frags / points: one time - actually maybe week ago - at one CSAR server there were like six playeradmins ( and few of them had adminconsole aside them, nice little ghost-window ) at defence, 3minutes of time, defence camping their ass off and kicking assault players who were attacking slower "because they were camping". Just saying...
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 17:57:31 PM
Seen it all my AA life as I said Ronski. Yes scrap all honour one name each and thats all you need. These fanny dome out for tk wars with other account seen that all the time aswell
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: SASF-DarkShooter on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 18:05:55 PM
There are many things wrong with AA nowadays, but one of the most  counterproductive thing I've witnessed is the noobbashing of visibly new players, low honors etc. Everybody goes all negative towards them rather than helping them, and giving some tips. Give newer players a warm welcome, and in stead of teamkilling/votekicking them when they do something stupid, teach them.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 18:19:06 PM
I have spent a fair bit of time teaching new guys letting them kill me. I also had to put up with the clowns when I ask if there new they say yes kill me a few time then I realise there at it. But hey more important to let the new guys win and bring them on. Agreed dark for once.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Alex on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 18:32:09 PM
There are many things wrong with AA nowadays, but one of the most  counterproductive thing I've witnessed is the noobbashing of visibly new players, low honors etc. Everybody goes all negative towards them rather than helping them, and giving some tips. Give newer players a warm welcome, and in stead of teamkilling/votekicking them when they do something stupid, teach them.
I agree to some extent. I'm always nice to new users. I think a bigger problem is that this game has a huge learning curve and it's made even more impossible to learn and have fun when you're going up against a bunch of old time players, which this game is mostly comprised of. It's even worse when you consider all of the pipeline(and other map) defense whores sitting on the easy side of the map and the new users get stuck on assault, get killed a lot and quit the game. It's simply not fun and people will stop playing. This is a problem we unfortunately can't really solve.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: SASF-DarkShooter on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 18:35:43 PM
That indeed is a bigger problem. One thing I used to do, on the few maps I know well, is teaching new players the commonly used abbreviations in game, e.g. on bridge ERB/ERC/ERW etc. Especially for the new people who are trying, tiny little things like that can mean a whole lot, and it only takes a minute or two.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Alex on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 20:24:23 PM
That indeed is a bigger problem. One thing I used to do, on the few maps I know well, is teaching new players the commonly used abbreviations in game, e.g. on bridge ERB/ERC/ERW etc. Especially for the new people who are trying, tiny little things like that can mean a whole lot, and it only takes a minute or two.
Agreed. Honestly this is where teamspeak shines the brightest. You can relay much more knowledge about the game through ts than text chat in-game.
However, this game doesn't have much going for it. It's old, it looks terrible, it's hard to learn, it has very little features and only one game mode. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, this game only exists for people who used to play it and want to keep playing it. The attraction for new players is simply not there and it never will be no matter what we do.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 04:05:58 AM
I agree to some extent. I'm always nice to new users. I think a bigger problem is that this game has a huge learning curve and it's made even more impossible to learn and have fun when you're going up against a bunch of old time players, which this game is mostly comprised of. It's even worse when you consider all of the pipeline(and other map) defense whores sitting on the easy side of the map and the new users get stuck on assault, get killed a lot and quit the game. It's simply not fun and people will stop playing. This is a problem we unfortunately can't really solve.


Think you will find thats what I said and you disagreed now your agreed ahwell thats good.

Has assist Got Team Speak? If it has I never saw . If it hasnt and you know it helps why havent they got it?

Yep its good to bring on new players. But there is a place for it one on one. Theres a new guy just now. SO i have him. Regiment is on ass with two adrian what ever his name is and another reasonable player. I am playing against three. The noob is dancing at the back or idle or throwing smokes every where. That is a pain in the arse. And not the time for it. Reg wanted him kicked when he was on the noobs side, But he didnt want him licked when he was on the other side. SO not the place to learn. And reg iment is another one of these selfish clowns that ruin the game.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Alex on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 04:23:18 AM
Think you will find thats what I said and you disagreed now your agreed ahwell thats good.

Has assist Got Team Speak? If it has I never saw . If it hasnt and you know it helps why havent they got it?

Yep its good to bring on new players. But there is a place for it one on one. Theres a new guy just now. SO i have him. Regiment is on ass with two adrian what ever his name is and another reasonable player. I am playing against three. The noob is dancing at the back or idle or throwing smokes every where. That is a pain in the arse. And not the time for it. Reg wanted him kicked when he was on the noobs side, But he didnt want him licked when he was on the other side. SO not the place to learn. And reg iment is another one of these selfish clowns that ruin the game.
I never agreed that AA was dying, just that its prospects for expanding are very poor.

As for TS, we have a TS viewer right on the forum index... I find it hard to believe that you never saw it.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 04:24:41 AM
I never agreed that AA was dying, just that its prospects for expanding are very poor.

As for TS, we have a TS viewer right on the forum index... I find it hard to believe that you never saw it.

It looks like an advert. When I would see ts else where its a lot bigger. But It could be because I dont have ot it looks different?
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 04:27:33 AM
it's not far away, from top menu, servers > teamspeak: http://aao25.com/teamspeak/ (http://aao25.com/teamspeak/)
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 04:30:52 AM
got it thanks
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 06:59:37 AM
it's not far away, from top menu, servers > teamspeak: http://aao25.com/teamspeak/ (http://aao25.com/teamspeak/)
Also, just as Killa said, there's a rather big sign "AAO25 TEAMSPEAK" accompanied with the viewer.

The reason its' not bigger (i.e showing who's on what channel and so on) is because it made the site slower.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: raw on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 11:47:51 AM
AA has bee "dead' and "dying" even since this project was started years ago and yet there are still plenty of people playing.

When this project started actually? Just wondering how fast the time flies...i guess 2013?
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 11:58:43 AM
The project started back in 2008.
It took over the whole game when the US Army dropped their support late 2011.
http://aao25.com/wiki/index.php?title=Assist_History (http://aao25.com/wiki/index.php?title=Assist_History)
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Alex on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 14:35:33 PM
The project started back in 2008.
It took over the whole game when the US Army dropped their support late 2011.
http://aao25.com/wiki/index.php?title=Assist_History (http://aao25.com/wiki/index.php?title=Assist_History)
While it is true that the Assist project was started way back in 2008, it had a different purpose then. Official auth was still up and the client was to unify all of the custom content as well as help people on OS X get into servers.
Assist as we know it today didn't really start until 2012, after the oifficial auth was shut down. Look at version 2.2 in the history wiki.

EDIT: It seems to be that's what you were saying and I just missed it. :P
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 16:48:02 PM
While it is true that the Assist project was started way back in 2008, it had a different purpose then. Official auth was still up and the client was to unify all of the custom content as well as help people on OS X get into servers.
Assist as we know it today didn't really start until 2012, after the oifficial auth was shut down. Look at version 2.2 in the history wiki.

EDIT: It seems to be that's what you were saying and I just missed it. :P
Never doubt a teddy bear ;)
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 17:56:57 PM
I think this was the first forum discussion about the matter, at least as far as I recall...it was late December 2011, a few days after the official auth & services shutdown. I remember jonny talking about an early version of the auth that was running on a really noisy and not terribly power efficient server in his shed/barn :D

http://aao25.com/forum/general-chat-90/greetings/ (http://aao25.com/forum/general-chat-90/greetings/)
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, January 28, 2016, 02:18:46 AM
I agree with Vegeta's original sentiment but I still can't get over his horrible spelling and grammar.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Thursday, January 28, 2016, 04:38:52 AM
OK Spanky so I am desliexic hows my grammer now
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Thursday, January 28, 2016, 13:59:13 PM
You over it yet?
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: NoBigDeal on Friday, January 29, 2016, 17:40:17 PM
I agree with Vegeta's original sentiment but I still can't get over his horrible spelling and grammar.

The same here. I barely understand what he's trying to say ... and my English is bad. :S

BTW: I wonder how did you manage to write this smartass signature of yours ..? Do you understand the text in it?
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: -Vegeta- on Friday, January 29, 2016, 18:42:28 PM
The same here. I barely understand what he's trying to say ... and my English is bad. :S

BTW: I wonder how did you manage to write this smartass signature of yours ..? Do you understand the text in it?

So you quote Spankys post sayting you agree. Yes?
Then you say you barely understand what I am trying to say. Yes?
The makes no sense at all son.
If you agree. You can only do that if you understand.
Not only is your "English bad." Thats me quoting you still following?
But your reasoning aint to clever either. In your language or any other for that matter. :)

You stick with the learning English son. You will get there. Should come good in the end even with you lack of understanding.
If you cant understand my English. How thw hell are you going to understand a break down of my sig. Thats short for signature.
You are trying to be a smart ass an you look like a clown. Try again Coco.
Your kinda trying to stick up for Spanky whos now in hiding.
Title: Re: AA id dead and here is why.
Post by: Koden on Friday, January 29, 2016, 19:02:25 PM
How comes nearly every single thread you start ends up to posts like these, Vegeta? I am closing this one, anyway...