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Assist => Feedback & Suggestions => Bug Reports => Topic started by: no.0b on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 04:10:20 AM
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Ever since the latest patch of assist 7.32
My Gamma and brightness defaulted back to the original and I have not been able to change my gamma or brightness. It acknowledges that I have changed them but the screen remains the same. This makes it incredibly hard to play in to the point where I cant even see enemies in front of me and sometimes in dark places my gun is hardly visible.
Any idea whats going on?
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25Assist->Settings tab
change your settings there.
or in-game type on console, Gamma 1.5, Brightness 7, Contrast 7 ( you can try lower values)
max gamma is 1.5, max brightness and contrats is 9 if I remember.
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25Assist->Settings tab
change your settings there.
or in-game type on console, Gamma 1.5, Brightness 7, Contrast 7 ( you can try lower values)
max gamma is 1.5, max brightness and contrats is 9 if I remember.
doesnt work, it says in the console that its changed, but I do not see any changes on screen. It's still dark.
Another thing I have noticed that is now an issue, is when I try to take a screenshot using f9 it gives me an instant critical error.
I even did a system restore, I repaired and also even tried a complete reinstall of the game. I'm on windows 8 Is that an issue?
I tried changing it through both methods you have suggested. No luck. This was only a problem after a small patch that happened today.
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I don't know but I had a critical error 2 times yesterday too... the problem occurred yesterday when one of IGC servers were shut or something idk....same to me im on windows 8 too and sometimes my gamma and brightens doesn't always change.
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Few days ago I got kicked from a server because my gamma was 1.51, no idea how this is possible
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max = 1.500000 if you put a 1 or w/e instead of the zeros, you get kicked :D
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Its a windows 8 'Feature' not a lot can be done. maybe it can be change in your driver settings.
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Its a windows 8 'Feature' not a lot can be done. maybe it can be change in your driver settings.
Like I said, this only happened after the small update that happened earlier yesterday.
My drivers havn't changed nothing is different other than the patch that happened on Assist.
Actually I retract that, there was a windows update. However I believe it was working fine before the assist update
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To fix some serious issues with win8 we have had to change some settings and this is the side effect.
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To fix some serious issues with win8 we have had to change some settings and this is the side effect.
So are you saying there is no fix for this at the moment?
Also, I forgot to mention that I've been getting kicked from servers for Authorization Slot closed. Maybe in a server for about 2 minutes then I get kicked. Once again I never had this happen until the latest update on Assist.
I'm not sure what the patch changed, but whatever it was broke windows 8 more than whatever it was that had to be "fixed".
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its for mostly everbody idk whats the problem, 2 min in the server and im getting kicked
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its for mostly everbody idk whats the problem, 2 min in the server and im getting kicked
Ah I thought it was a windows 8 problem, my buddy is playing right now on windows 7 and he's been able to play for hours without getting kicked.
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could be only for win 8 cuz we special ^^
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could be only for win 8 cuz we special ^^
Well they should just revert back to the previous patch, everything worked fine for windows 8.
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Yes i know, that's what i mean i don't know if its avg fault because it was fine until the latest update.
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I have win8 and it's working great. Could be other issue...
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i have fixed what i THINK is causing the closed slot issue, Download again please from http://sourceforge.net/projects/aa25assist/files/Binaries/25Assist.zip/download
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thanks i check it
EDIT: works when i tried with admin privileges
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Go into the army ops folder and delete armyops.log and armyops.25a
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The Authorization Slot Closed problem is solved, but not the brightness and gamma issue. I have to change my Gamma and brightness on my monitor to play, which means ill have to constantly be switching it back and forth because AA is not the only game or thing I do. In fact, im a Web Designer and this is very frustrating to deal with since I need to have brightness & gamma based off the application instead of using my monitors base settings.
Is there any ETA on when this will be worked on or if it will be worked on at all? I'm confused as to why it was working before and now it doesnt work at all.
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The Authorization Slot Closed problem is solved, but not the brightness and gamma issue. I have to change my Gamma and brightness on my monitor to play, which means ill have to constantly be switching it back and forth because AA is not the only game or thing I do. In fact, im a Web Designer and this is very frustrating to deal with since I need to have brightness & gamma based off the application instead of using my monitors base settings.
Is there any ETA on when this will be worked on or if it will be worked on at all? I'm confused as to why it was working before and now it doesnt work at all.
Since you're a designer, you'll actually want to calibrate your monitor and then leave everything else at default, that way you're seeing (and editing) exactly what's intended.
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max = 1.500000 if you put a 1 or w/e instead of the zeros, you get kicked :D
But why do they propose it then?
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Try playing insurgent camp with default gamma settings, you have to use nightvision because you can't see anything and with it being a night map, that how it should be.
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Try playing insurgent camp with default gamma settings, you have to use nightvision because you can't see anything and with it being a night map, that how it should be.
Exactly. It's how the devs designed it. The only reason to mess with brightness/contrast/gamma is if you can't get your monitor calibrated. Nobody should be messing with the in-game controls.
Grab this:
http://www.calibrize.com
Calibrate. Play.
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All that stuff's built into Mac osx.
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Since you're a designer, you'll actually want to calibrate your monitor and then leave everything else at default, that way you're seeing (and editing) exactly what's intended.
You're exactly right, and AA's defaulted Brightness and Gamma are absolutely horrid, I have to play EVERY map with night vision goggles and sometimes its STILL too dark.
Not to sound like I'm being rude, but really what you guys are saying just sounds like an excuse. Giving people the ability to be flexible with their applications is all about satisfying customers and/or consumers. There is nothing wrong with allowing people to change their Gamma and Brightness in game. If I can do it on my monitor why not instead use the in game method? The difference is that it makes things 10 times easier to use the in game method. I have no idea why you guys seem so opposed to changing it back to what it was.
I think what you guys are doing is great. I'm not trying to tell you how to run things or what not, but to me this is a very frustrating and game breaking "bug" that wasnt completely necessary to fix.
Also, It doesnt make any sense to me that other people are allowed to change their brightness & Gamma through AA or the Assist Settings panel. You really think anyone who's not on windows 8 is gonna try and preserve the natural look that the original Game devs tried to relay to their players? No, Let's face it some maps are ridiculously too dark. Another valid point to bring up is this: Why even put the ability to change your brightness and Gamma in Americas Army if the devs thought that everything was supposed to be perfect? Sure there's night vision goggles but lets be real here. The purpose of the Brightness and Gamma is to help remove the need to change your monitors settings because the game is too dark in certain areas. I think the original Devs knew this and this is something that you should understand as well.
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I have no control of the things done in Assist, I'm simply commenting on the aspect. Just because I have admin here doesn't mean I do anything for the project/game :) With that said, I do play around with maps and it rubs me the wrong way when some pro gamer comes along and starts messing with settings to make things look/sound how he thinks they should be, not the way you worked hard to intend them to be.
I would bet money that the AA devs didn't say "oh just edit your brighness" when people complained that a map was too bright/dark in beta testing. They fixed the map. They made everything usable and playable. Everything is intended. That little dark corner that you can't see very well, it's meant to be there. If your monitor (this also applies to audio) is calibrated properly then you're seeing exactly what they intended.
I recommend calibrating because it sets proper color & brightness up across the board. If your monitor is displaying colors properly then EVERYTHING you use is shown as intended by it's creator. If you tweak the settings in AA then websites and other games are going to be different. Designers that get paid for a living will use equipment that is more accurate they also have a skillset that tells them what things should be like. Combine those two things together and there's no reason for an inexperienced end user to say "nahhh it's too dark, i'm raising my brightness".
Play the game as it's intended, both audio and video. Unfortunately, that'll never happen and that's why I'm actually pleased that brightness and gamma are somehow broken.
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I'm not a pro gamer... what are you talking about? lol
Also, if im running into walls because its too dark, do you think they intended that? Don't think so. I'm not trying to change the settings to have an edge over someone, I have a legitimate complaint/request that should be looked into. I understand having dark corners and dark spots in the game, I have that when I change my brightness and gamma, however I believe they never intended it to be as bad as it is on my screen. Spanky, im not sure if you think im just trying to pull legs here, I find it quite unfair though that people can still change their settings because they are running win 7 or lower. Removing the ability to change your brightness and Gamma inside the game, is not addressing any problem. It's only making it inconvenient for those who run windows 8.
here is a screen shot of a dark area. I am in spawn at breakout, really cant even see my gun, just the red dot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7qnzb4tivz8cwq/aaomg.png (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7qnzb4tivz8cwq/aaomg.png)
Changing the ability to change Gamma and Brightness in a game thats been around for 10 years and for the most part has always had this option, is like cutting my legs off and telling me to enjoy life the way it was intended.
Also, Spanky... Game Design and Web Design are two different things. If something looked dark on a site, I'd be like well that was terribly done and try and adjust to fix it if it was important enough to do so. I'd imagine the same reaction would take place on AA. If the lighting is just too dark then you adjust to fix it. Is it possible that when the AA devs realized that some of the maps they made may have been too dark they implemented a feature to adjust the brightness & gamma? How do we know this is what they intended? obviously if they needed a way to adjust the brightness and Gamma in game there must of been a reason.
Do you really think that every monitor would be the same? Even if you calibrate the colors to a perfect T. Every monitor's quality will be different. I'm positive the Devs realized this and it just looked too dark on some monitors.
And.. should you really need night vision on every map? No. SF Pipeline is a prime example of when nightvision should be in use. Night time maps are indeed a map you'd need nightvison on even if you adjusted your Gamma & Brightness. You should not need nightvision on ALL maps.
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I can see your gun quiet well actually :)
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Same to me i run windows 8 and gamma/brightness is fucked, i can't play without not turning night visions like mostly anywhere i go...
I agree, why windows 7 users can and we can't? what was the punishment for win8 users? if u did for win8 then why not to do for everyone. I don't see how this makes fair game for us...
AA devs would not do that to the people and make one windows platform like that, they all would be the same. Now i can't play, i need to buy glasses even tho they won't help because i need night visions turned on which fucks my vision too. What about maps that don't have night vision? I'm totally screwed there like hospital in the darker places i can't see sometimes the enemy and i get shot...
Please discuss this matter, it looks like you punished only win8, then if you want this way why not do to everyone else?
Screenshot makes that look brighter because i came to that situation too... Its like you all laughing at one platform here...
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search for new grafic drivers. i am sure the problem will be found there
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I can see your gun quiet well actually :)
Well thats cool, I cant. You probably have your Gamma and brightness adjusted via your monitor.
I'm glad im not the only person having this issue, I believe Billy in 82nd has the same issue he just makes the compromise to change his monitor settings to play. I can understand doing that but seriously, this is not something you should even have to do.
search for new grafic drivers. i am sure the problem will be found there
Just updated my drivers, Still doesn't work. I'm almost positive the problem lays within the newest patch from Assist. In trying to fix something for windows 8 they somehow broke the in game method of changing brightness and Gamma. I just wish an admin or Dev, could give me some serious insight about whether or not this is going to get fixed or if its something they decided to do on purpose.
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I haven't change aything to monitor, but I admit I often change gamma and brightness when im switching from bridge to insurgent
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I haven't change aything to monitor, but I admit I often change gamma and brightness when im switching from bridge to insurgent
Yea, everyone does it there are maps that are not designed for night vision goggles and I have to use them all the time.
I haven't really played the past few days because of this. Whatever they did this last patch has really messed everyone's game play up. Be it this issues stated in this post or the slot authorization closed problem.
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I had the same problem. I went into my armyops.ini and found the brightness, gamma, contrast and noticed that they were all set to 7, 7, 1.0. I believe those are the default settings. I changed them to 9, 9, 1.5 and seems to look better. Hope that helps!
Only thing is is that you still cant adjust setting in-game.
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I had the same problem. I went into my armyops.ini and found the brightness, gamma, contrast and noticed that they were all set to 7, 7, 1.0. I believe those are the default settings. I changed them to 9, 9, 1.5 and seems to look better. Hope that helps!
Only thing is is that you still cant adjust setting in-game.
I tried this, when I click save it just automatically puts my brightness down to 0.000000.
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Ive loaded BF3, CS, COD and I can adjust my brightness on all of those games. It has to do something with the new update.
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I tried playing last night and it almost makes the game unplayable. I join a WC server and spend 10 minutes minimizing/maximizing my game adjusting my monitor settings so everything looks normal in game, but anything outside of the game looks terrible. When the server swapped over to Urban, I had to spend another 10 minutes readjusting my monitor because urban it was too bright. Having to recalibrate your monitor every time you join a new map is almost certainly NOT what the original developers had in mind. Being able to change these settings on the fly has always been available and SHOULD always be available.
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its 100% the update.
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no.0b, I'm talking in general. I'm not accusing you of unfairly adjusting your settings to gain an advantage. All I'm saying is that often times, that's what they are used for. Nobody should legitimately have to change those settings if their monitor is calibrated. Some people will whine and say "well they're in the game, they must have meant for us to change them!". That's simply untrue. They're there from the engine. There's a few useless menu options in AA as well as left-over code and broken things. The devs weren't exactly tidy.
Also, Breakout is a horrible example. It's not an official map, it was never tested for balance, gameplay, bugs, or lighting and in fact, it's still a beta map that is many years old. I should have been clear, my statements go for the official maps that were created in a dev studio, not the ones made by us fans. I can't see much anything on Breakout (is that a good excuse for my 0.05 k/d?) I think quite a bit of the lighting on that map needs to be changed to be realistic.
I know all monitors will display different and some can be calibrated more than others but I still stand by my statement. If your monitor is displaying colors as best it can then you are getting as close as possible to the way it was intended. Those settings in-game are NOT for you to turn Insurgent Camp into a daytime map.
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no.0b, I'm talking in general. I'm not accusing you of unfairly adjusting your settings to gain an advantage. All I'm saying is that often times, that's what they are used for. Nobody should legitimately have to change those settings if their monitor is calibrated. Some people will whine and say "well they're in the game, they must have meant for us to change them!". That's simply untrue. They're there from the engine. There's a few useless menu options in AA as well as left-over code and broken things. The devs weren't exactly tidy.
Also, Breakout is a horrible example. It's not an official map, it was never tested for balance, gameplay, bugs, or lighting and in fact, it's still a beta map that is many years old. I should have been clear, my statements go for the official maps that were created in a dev studio, not the ones made by us fans. I can't see much anything on Breakout (is that a good excuse for my 0.05 k/d?) I think quite a bit of the lighting on that map needs to be changed to be realistic.
I know all monitors will display different and some can be calibrated more than others but I still stand by my statement. If your monitor is displaying colors as best it can then you are getting as close as possible to the way it was intended. Those settings in-game are NOT for you to turn Insurgent Camp into a daytime map.
I don't think you fully understand the dilemma that the windows 8 users are going through. It's completely unfair of you to label anyone who wishes to change the brightness of the game as "people who are trying to get the better edge on others." and use it as a backing for why this isn't fixed. Furthermore you should really try getting on windows 8 and seeing for yourself what people are having to do to actually play. If you don't know what its like then I believe your argument or point isn't very valid. That's just my opinion. Breakout is also a great map, it doesn't seem unbalanced at all and with the right changes in your brightness and contrast etc, it makes that map even more fun. I don't understand why you are so opposed to the idea of having the ability to change your settings, all it does is enable people more flexibility in how they play the game. If the devs truly wanted you to run around in night vision they'd make that the default view that the game is played in.
Excuse me if I sound like im being rude, but this is a very very frustrating problem. I was playing fine like 4 days ago, one patch and now I can hardly even play.
Jonny Msg'd me and it looks like all windows 8 users are out of luck.
from jonny himself:
"Sorry, its just not possible without breaking some really important stuff we've built into assist over the last few versions."
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As much as I hate to say this, but you should really reconsider trying to fix and or reverse the changes that led up to this. Windows 8 is only going to grow in popularity, computers are shipped out with it on the system pre-installed. If you have to reverse a few patches back to try and find an alternate method to whatever it was that was super needed then that's what you should really think about doing. I see a few known players here that play often and are loyal to the the game. It's a shame to see them having to go through this very same problem. I may just have to play on my laptop, which I am not excited about in the least..... at least then I can adjust the colors. Such a huge let down to me to be honest, but I guess we will always find a way to play this beloved game that we've grown to love.
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-_- how dare u speak of breakout in that way -_-
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You're not sounding rude, you're actually articulating your points better than a lot of the typical flamers. Again, I'm not doing anything in developing Assist. I'm not saying that the reason it's not fixed is because I hate tweakers. The reason it's not fixed is because Jonny hasn't/won't fix it. My thoughts/opinions do NOT reflect those of the anti-cheat and development team.
I play on Windows 8 and it works fine for me. Yea Breakout is dark but that's just how the map is (plus I have a real shitty 5+ year old monitor). What's the problem with Windows 8? Is it windowed mode? I play fullscreen and it's fine. Maybe because I've not touched my settings?
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actually theres was no screenshot of the issue, just big loads of TEXT TEXT TEXT that I don't even attempt to read.
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actually theres was no screenshot of the issue, just big loads of TEXT TEXT TEXT that I don't even attempt to read.
There's a screenshot, that I linked in one of my posts. Although, I dont think it will do much since if you have your monitor settings turned up you wont see the problem as much as I do.
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for me, on win7 64 all fine
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but not for win8 users.
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What's the problem? I'm on Win8 and it works fine...
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What's the problem? I'm on Win8 and it works fine...
And you dont adjust your brightness and gamma right?
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And you dont adjust your brightness and gamma right?
Right. No need to. Problem?
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Right. No need to. Problem?
Yes, since you don't need to change your Gamma or brightness then why are you even posting? You arent contributing anything to getting the problem fixed all you're saying is that you dont need it. So if you don't need it then, please will you quit trying to prove a point that isnt even related to the problem others are having.
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Jonny already said it's not going to get fixed and the admins haven't locked this thread so I'm free to troll :)
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Jonny already said it's not going to get fixed and the admins haven't locked this thread so I'm free to troll :)
You're a fine role model of an admin. Please close this thread.
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I have windows 8 too..
Same problem here....
before the small update, it worked fine on win8.
After the update this problem occured...
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I would like to point out that I have windows 8, and I do believe that this is a problem that needs to be addressed. The game is not at all playable in this new state.
Jonny already said it's not going to get fixed and the admins haven't locked this thread so I'm free to troll :)
I certainly hope not because this update hurts the AA player base including myself.
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FIX YOUR FUCKING MONITOR THEN. INSURGENT CAMP IS NOT A DAYTIME MAP.
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Spanky your a little behind the times, a few hours ago an update was release that includes a tool to adjust gamma.
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My point still stands :) They shouldn't need that tool. I don't load up AA every day so I generally get to see the rage people have before I realize you put out an update :D
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I agree most of these maps are supposed to be NIGHT maps and they way they appear at default settings is correct. But if people want to spoil their experience then let them.
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JonnyM, your Windows 8 gamma option does not do the trick unfortunately. When launching the game with windows 8 gamma on max, my monitors flash to an intense brightness at the splash screeb and it quickly subsides as if there was no gamma increase whatsoever.
It appears that there may only be one option for the affected players: Dual boot into Windows 7.
The arguably necessary security changes JonnyM made has unintentionally and irreparably force a few of us to go out of our way to play.
Spanky. Please stop posting on the forum regarding this issue. You are not contributing any helpful information, and you are most certainly not calming us down.